Brand Nubian - One for All
Nehesi Mazoi
Mohamed Ashak wrote:
>
> I know this is old shit, but what do you think of it?
>
> Heard the track One for All years ago and liked it but never got round to
> buying the LP.
>
> Is it worth it? No loose tracks?
I'm racking my memory but I can't remember really disliking ANY of the
tracks on the album. Overall one of the phattest records in my
collection. I haven't listened to the whole thing in over three months,
though, so I could be forgetting something.
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One for All is definitely a one of the best rap albums.
get it and you'll see
Andrew Raymond Ryall
Mohamed Ashak (wadh...@sable.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
: I know this is old shit, but what do you think of it?
: Heard the track One for All years ago and liked it but never got round to
: buying the LP.
: Is it worth it? No loose tracks?
Quite worth it. Very, very tight album in all aspects. I actually think
both Jamar and Sadat fell in skill since then.
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Andrew Ryall
Memorial University of Newfoundland
St. John's, Newfoundland
Canada
v65...@plato.ucs.mun.ca
Luke Forrest
I think "One For All" is one of the classic albums in hip-hop from a
very classic time. It needs to be checked out. Great mix of political,
sexual, and braggadocio lyrics, two great MCs (and Jamar sucks, but that
was probably his best effort to date), and nice production. "Wake Up"
and "Slow Down" are incredible songs.
luke
Kandle
For hypeness, also check out "Who Can Get Busy Like This Man."
Jon
one of the best albums you can get! there are no really bad songs on
it. and Puba, Sadat x & Jamar's lyrics are all really tight. after i
heard this, Puba was my favorite rapper.
peace!
-Jon (www.students.uiuc.edu/~jwsingle)
bj...@lehigh.edu
In article <330219...@umich.edu>, Luke Forrest <lfor...@umich.edu> writes:
>I think "One For All" is one of the classic albums in hip-hop from a
>very classic time. It needs to be checked out. Great mix of political,
>sexual, and braggadocio lyrics, two great MCs (and Jamar sucks, but that
>was probably his best effort to date), and nice production. "Wake Up"
>and "Slow Down" are incredible songs.
"Slow Down" hit me too. But then I got to thinking...the sample impressed me
just as much as the lyrics. An unusual song to sample, don't you think?
Two questions: 1.) Is it variety we crave when Brand Nubian (or anyone else)
uses some guitar loop or other obscure sample and includes it in hip-hop? Why
do these songs appeal?
2.) As a facet of the first, why did this work so well for EPMD? They sampled
Steve Miller, "Godzilla", and a lot of other stuff, that, for most of their
careers, got them respect and acclaim. Would anyone else be able to get away
with it?
Brad Mampe
bj...@lehigh.edu
Soon-Yi Previn aka Uncle Hot-Rod
On 17 Feb 1997 bj...@Lehigh.EDU wrote:
> In article <330219...@umich.edu>, Luke Forrest <lfor...@umich.edu> writes:
> >I think "One For All" is one of the classic albums in hip-hop from a
> >very classic time. It needs to be checked out. Great mix of political,
> >sexual, and braggadocio lyrics, two great MCs (and Jamar sucks, but that
> >was probably his best effort to date), and nice production. "Wake Up"
> >and "Slow Down" are incredible songs.
>
> "Slow Down" hit me too. But then I got to thinking...the sample impressed me
> just as much as the lyrics. An unusual song to sample, don't you think?
>
> Two questions: 1.) Is it variety we crave when Brand Nubian (or anyone else)
> uses some guitar loop or other obscure sample and includes it in hip-hop? Why
> do these songs appeal?
That's why I never liked the Edie Brickell loop too much - it was
interesting but sounded wack. The rhythm was all fucked up on that track.
I think in that case it was the source of the loop that made for some of
its popularity.
>
> 2.) As a facet of the first, why did this work so well for EPMD? They sampled
> Steve Miller, "Godzilla", and a lot of other stuff, that, for most of their
> careers, got them respect and acclaim. Would anyone else be able to get away
> with it?
EPMD was all about dope beats - wherever it came from. They would not use
that Slow Down break because it was sub-par. The Steve Miller song they
used is a bomb-ass song and was ignored for a long time because it was not
really a funk or jazz song. Another thing - check the production on
Paul's Boutique. They make even the Beatles sound funky.
>
> Brad Mampe
> bj...@lehigh.edu
>
>
>
>
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Cerkit [Breaker]
bj...@Lehigh.EDU wrote:
>Two questions: 1.) Is it variety we crave when Brand Nubian (or anyone else)
>uses some guitar loop or other obscure sample and includes it in hip-hop? Why
>do these songs appeal?
>
>2.) As a facet of the first, why did this work so well for EPMD? They sampled
>Steve Miller, "Godzilla", and a lot of other stuff, that, for most of their
>careers, got them respect and acclaim. Would anyone else be able to get away
>with it?
Definitely, especially at this point in hip-hop where every viable
funk sample in history has been used 2000 times. Check "Things'll
Never Change" by E-40, which samples (and remakes) the instrumental
from Bruce Hornsby's "The Way It Is", and currently a very successful
single.
One of the earliest examples that I remember in the gangsta rap genre
is "Gangster of Love" (Geto Boys), which sampled Lynyrd Skynyrd's
"Sweet Home Alabama"; to me one of the catchiest and innovative
samples I've heard. Another version of that song was released the same
year with a sample from Steve Miller Band's "The Joker" for the
chorus, which sounded hella tight.
And I know this is a little different than what you were talking
about, but if you want to find diversity in samples, check out
anything by DJ Shadow -- anything from Nirvana to classical pieces to
... well, in all honesty, I can't recognize 99.99% of the shit.
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Oliver Wang
> bj...@Lehigh.EDU wrote:
>
> >Two questions: 1.) Is it variety we crave when Brand Nubian (or anyone else)
> >uses some guitar loop or other obscure sample and includes it in hip-hop? Why
> >do these songs appeal?
It's not necessarily the obscurity per se...it's what sounds good. ATCQ
is pretty good at obscure samples, but they also used "Between the Sheets"
on the "Bonita Applebaum" remix and it sounded GOOD.
Personally, as a DJ, a good beat to me is something that's just hooked up
lovely. That's why I think the Labratz remix of Acey's "Mic Check" is
butter, even if it uses the theme from the "Nutcracker" of all place.
It's also why I actually liked "The Ill Na Na" despite yet another lifting
of the bassline from "Brick House". It bumps well.
> >2.) As a facet of the first, why did this work so well for EPMD? They sampled
> >Steve Miller, "Godzilla", and a lot of other stuff, that, for most of their
> >careers, got them respect and acclaim. Would anyone else be able to get away
> >with it?
That's a little like asking how come Eric B and Rakim got away with
sampling James Brown. No one did it prior to them. The EPMD sound has
been copied by hella folks, but they did it first...as Erick Sermon brags,
he introduced the "Zapp clap" to rap, and hell, I think hip hop's better
off for it, even if it was an "easy" source. But also keep in mind that
P-Funk didn't become a big source of samples until the mid-80s, largely
thanks to folks like EPMD, Public Enemy, Digitial Underground, etc.
--O