John Fowles
P.S. I said "real" money as some humurous foreigner in Rik's chat room last
night dared to query if Pounds Sterling is real money - well at least our
currency has a living person's image on all newly-minted/printed items, even
though the forthcoming 50 pence coin will have Diana P-o-W on the obverse.
P.P.S. Obverse in this case has nothing to do with back side.
Regards, Diane (in NEW Hampshire)
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>Correction - getting confused in my old age - £16.49
Not nearly as confused and befuddled as I . . . just how do you make that pound
sign?
Duff :-)
What I really want to say is that in awe and respect of your special abilities,
I am nominating you as the official "Massey Currency-Master and Chief
Metrician", pending of course, a second and whatever other parliamentary
procedures may be deemed necessary.
Sir John, will you rise to the occasion?
Respectfully,
Susan
P.S. Since many of us hope to meet at Massey, a few trips to Rik's very
friendly Tues and Fri (9PM EST) chats (www.europa.com/~random7/chat.htm) are
highly recommended as an aid in combatting those social diseases such as
shyness, anxiety, even zenophobia!
Oh, BTW, I would imagine that John could also provide time zone conversions
PRN.
I second.
(However, I must say that Gman deserves to be Asst Chief
Metrician.)
Snap!!
Diane
>P.S. Since many of us hope to meet at Massey, a few trips to Rik's very
>friendly Tues and Fri (9PM EST) chats (www.europa.com/~random7/chat.htm) are
>highly recommended as an aid in combatting those social diseases such as
>shyness, anxiety, even zenophobia!
After checking the post, thought I'd correct my own typo for the obsessive
among us (you know who you are!): "xenophobia". I beg your indulgences.
Susan
Hmmm! I see your point and apologize for any slight to Gman, however, Gman may
not make Massey. Perhaps if Gman can overcome any problems associated with
crossing the border we will need to split the title and take it to a vote!
Comments, Gman, John, Diane, anyone?
Susan
See below, but patient readers may like a bit of background to start with:-
Firstly, apologies - I should have headed my original posting "Private
message for British eyes only"
then ex-colonials wouldn't have been troubled by a strange crossed L. This
is from Latin "libra", an ancient Roman unit of weight corresponding to 1
pound, or in Old English "pund", an obsolete unit of weight. "libra" was
then shortened to "lb" (for younger British readers 1 lb = 16 ounces =
0.453592 kilograms, unless it's being used to weigh precious metals or
gemstones when it is then called a troy pound = 12 ounces = 0.373242 kg and
also 1 troy ounce = 20 pennyweights where 1 pennyweight = 24 grains, of what
I've no idea.The ancient Albions, as inflation reduced the value of their
penny weights, needed a collective noun for a pile of pennies, and as you
may have noticed if you're still with me 240 pennyweights weigh 1 pound.
20-odd years ago the imminent availability of small miraculous £500 portable
electronic calculators made more cents if the Pound was decimilised, so our
current penny weights are 2.4 old penny weights, and to differentiate them
they are now shown
as "p" compared to the previous "d" (itself from Latin "denarius", a Roman
coin worth 10 asses).
This is verbally abbreviated by the hoi polloi from "pence" to "pee",
presumably because their vulgar minds associate a penny with the old
entrance charge to a loo (toilet, washroom, little boy's room, little girl's
room or pisshouse).The ounce itself is so-named from old French "unce" or
Latin "uncia" meaning a twelfth. "Troy" is from Troyes in France where this
whole silly system apparently originated. Then the French under Napoleon
buggered the whole lot up by insisting that all their conquested domains
change to the metric system and drive on the wrong side of the road. They
had friends in the recently rebel tea-drinking colonies somewhere to the
West who, while in some United State of disarray, decided to cock a snoot
(nose) to their old mad King and, in sympathy with France, started to tell
their horses to drive on the right also (note that even today the majority
of right-thinking drivers throughout the rest of the world sit in the right
seat of their cars and drive down the natural, left, side of the road).
Later on the Irish thought they'd follow suit, but made the mistake of
getting all buses and lorries (trucks) to change to the right one weekend,
with cars and push-bikes the next. The resulting carnage led to that
experiment being quickly abandoned, but not before many of those who
protested at this insult to the British mainland had moved north and set up
a breakaway area called Ulster (United Left Side Throughout the Empire
Region). The Southern Irish never forgave the protest(ant)ers hence the
current sorry mess there. The Irish pound (money) is called a "punt", which
is almost where we came in, and why they still rock the boat as it were.
None of this would have happenned if it hadn't been for the fact that fully
50% of all Irish, French and Americans are of below average intelligence,
whereas a good 50% of all native Brits are blessed with above average
intellectual powers.
Amazing what you can find in a dictionary isn't it?
Anyway, back to Duff's question: :-)
1. Move to the UK, buy a UK issue computer, and you get a nice REAL £ sign
on the keyboard
( where you have a # above the 3)
OR:
2.1 Open up Character Map ( Windows 95/98, Accessories, System Tools)
2.2 Open a True Type fonts, most feature the £ sign
2.3 Highlight it and Select, then press Copy - the £ symbol should then be
in the Clipboard
2.4 Edit, Paste into your document, hey presto (I hope!) the £ sign should
be there in all its glory
and in the font you are using .
2.5 That way you don't make a hash of it.
Finally, I hope I haven't offended anyone.
Best wishes, John Fowles, author of the above but not "The French
Lieutenant's Woman" unfortunately
>a good 50% of all native Brits are blessed with above average
>intellectual powers.
Would that then make the other 50% "dunce"s? Like, say, someone who actually
looked up the history of british currency? (Grin)
John you have way too much time on your hands. (hehe)
Sue
[lots of wonderful £ stuff snipped]
I now have partly-chewed salad all over my keyboard from trying
to eat a sandwich while simultaneously laughing out loud at John's
contribution to trans-Atlantic relations and understanding. :)
John, was your name either Sellar or Yeatman in a former life?
Cheers,
Magnus
Thank you for the excellent and informative post Mr. Fowles (actually Alt-156
works for me, I think...£...ah yes!). Incidentally, I enjoyed "The Collector"
and "Daniel Martin" very much--would you autograph them for me? ;)
Derek
I have tried unsuccessfully for a couple weeks to get into
Rik's chat. I miss the AOL chat on Friday nights...last time
I checked in there, everyone was at Rik's.
My computer is old and slow...like me, I guess.
Duff
A collective response to various comments you've made:-
Magnus:
I see you're an astronomer, I'm Pisces myself, any clue where I should be on
November 13th?
Would a visit to Toronto Eclipse everything else this year? (in joke for UK
readers)
I do know that my present life started in the Yeatman Hospital in Sherborne,
since you ask.
Who he anyway? (Yeatman)
Derek:
Yes I know all about ASCII and ANSI codes, but thought the average (above
50% even) punter would forget Alt-156 = £ (yes it does work)
Duff:
The American Revolution should have been called ... off.
Sue Bloo:
Yes. See you in Denver hopefully.
Diane:
Thanks for seconding me. I'll think about it.
Mollie2:
Do try again tonite sorry tonight for Rik's slanging room - reminder to
others (Brian Walters, are you listening?) it's at
www.europa.com/~random7/chat.htm
and, last but not least,
Susan:
What American Virgin stores? You got some too? The man's a megalomaniac,
Richard Branson I mean, he of the beard, sweaters, sinking balloons, trains,
planes, condoms, cola, finance, UK ISP (Virgin.net), radio station, truly
virgin on the ridiculous. Have a look at the Virgin web site, a mess of
references to US and UK services, $ and £, www.virgin.com
Gonna get a bit of shut-eye now before entering the chat room later in
trepidition. See you all there?
John Fowles
PS For nit pickers I checked the spelling of megawhatsit and trepidiascope
>
> Anyway, back to Duff's question: :-)
> 1. Move to the UK, buy a UK issue computer, and you get a nice REAL £ sign
> on the keyboard
> ( where you have a # above the 3)
> OR:
> 2.1 Open up Character Map ( Windows 95/98, Accessories, System Tools)
> 2.2 Open a True Type fonts, most feature the £ sign
> 2.3 Highlight it and Select, then press Copy - the £ symbol should then be
> in the Clipboard
> 2.4 Edit, Paste into your document, hey presto (I hope!) the £ sign should
> be there in all its glory
> and in the font you are using .
> 2.5 That way you don't make a hash of it.
>
> Finally, I hope I haven't offended anyone.
>
> Best wishes, John Fowles, author of the above but not "The French
> Lieutenant's Woman" unfortunately
>
>
John I am impresed not only with your knowledge of English Coin and
weight histories, but with the fact that you didn't mention or try and
explain cricket now that would really have them confused
Warm Regards Peter T
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My goodness! Finally, cricket in a way even I can understand it! Thanks,
John--let's play!
(I sorta like the fact that they will often have a break for drinks. My kind
of sport...) :)
Derek
Oops! I can't believe I forgot that one!
Derek <<chastened... :)
Derek you haven't heard the best part. You can acutally get to bowl a
maiden over!!!!! :-)
Warm Regards Peter T.
Wow! At last! At last! Where do I sign up? :)
Derek
__
Right here on the dotted line ( but avoid the Crease)
.................................................!!!
But if you do want to play keep in mind that when fielding in cricket you
may be
put at silly mid on or short leg, and when bowling avoid "no balls" and if
you get
lucky you may even get your leg over (the wicket).
You'll also need a box set to protect your vitals.
John