Could someone tell Bill and Hillary to shut up ?
raybou...@yahoo.com
SUSAN ESTRICH
FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
The Clintons Are Back.
Sidney Blumenthal -- much hated former Clinton aide, ethically challenged former journalist --$850,000 advance in hand, has a new book out on May 20, attacking everyone who ever attacked him or the Clintons, rehearsing once again the old right wing conspiracy, every attack on them, answered. The right wing conspiracy revived, answered, again.
Hillary's book is next.
Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
The Democrats might have a chance of electing a new president if they
could
get the last one, and his defenders, to clear the stage. It doesn't
matter if
they're right or wrong. They should be history.
The Clintons suck up every bit of the available air. Nothing is left for anyone else. They are big, too big. That's the problem.
The 2004 candidates need a chance to get some attention, to rise to
Clinton's
level, which they'll never do so long as the likes of Sidney Blumenthal
are playing
into the hands of conservatives in insisting on debating the scandals
of the 1990s.
Don't get me wrong. No one spent more time defending Bill Clinton than
I did.
Too much, according to most of my friends. But in a constitutional
crisis, there
was no choice. Enough is enough.
There's no excuse for a grown man to have an affair with an intern,
whether
his name is Bill Clinton or Jack Kennedy. What the former president
did was
wrong.
It's bad enough that Fox has given Monica Lewinsky a talk show. Of all
the
hundreds of women who could help find Mr. Personality, the last one
on
earth who's earned the right to do it is the Queen of Blow Jobs of
the 1990s.
The Republicans shouldn't have impeached him for it, but he shouldn't
have
given them the ammunition. And we shouldn't still be discussing it.
Why are we? Or, to put it more accurately, why are they?
Not because it serves the interests of Democrats of the future.
It doesn't help Howard Dean, or John Kerry, or Dick Gephardt.
It makes George W. Bush look good.
It gets Sidney on TV shows. If the issue is ethics, no one has less
than
Sidney Blumenthal. He used to call me, during the Dukakis campaign,
which
I was running and he was supposed to be covering, to offer covert advice,
which if accepted might result in better coverage. Much later, when
I criticized him,
he tried to get me in trouble with my editors. All the while, I was
defending his
boss. That's Sidney. He's Hillary's best friend. No wonder
Republicans are
delighted to see his return to the spotlight.
It raises money for their causes.
The Bill and Bob (Dole) show on CBS has proven to be a colossal bore.
The ratings have fallen. Is anyone getting the message? I fear not.
Let's not mince words.
Hillary Clinton is never going to be president of the United States.
There is no more divisive figure in the Democratic Party, much less
the country,
than the former first lady. And I like her. But many women don't. Even
Democratic women. Even working women. Not to mention non-working, independent,
non-political women. She can be a great senator. She's smart, hard working
and effective. She is much respected among her peers.
But the more people talk about her as a future president, the more money Republicans raise. The more people talk about her as a future president, the less attention the current candidates, who might win, receive.
Revisiting the scandals of the past does no service to the Democrats of the future.
Bill Clinton is a brilliant man. But the more attention he gets, the more the Democrats of the future suffer. He would be the first to say this, if it weren't about him.
Enough with the Clintons. Please. Not for the sake of the Republicans. But for the Democrats ...
To find out more about Susan Estrich and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate web page at www.creators.com.
COPYRIGHT 2003 CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC.
Originally Published on Wednesday May 14, 2003
God_is_...@hush.ai
> http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses
>
>
> SUSAN ESTRICH
> FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
>
> The Clintons Are Back.
>
> Sidney Blumenthal -- much hated former Clinton aide, ethically
> challenged former journalist --$850,000 advance in hand, has a new book
> out on May 20, attacking everyone who ever attacked him or the Clintons,
> rehearsing once again the old right wing conspiracy, every attack on
> them, answered. The right wing conspiracy revived, answered, again.
>
> Hillary's book is next.
>
> Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
>
BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! The redneck RepublicanNazis are
running scared. I love it!
Wait until Michael Moores's movie comes out just before the next
election. That's just about guaranteed to see Dubya's popularity
drop. With the discussion of his family's Nazi ties during WW2 and
his putting bin Laden's family on a plane out of the USA following the
tragic events of 9/11, even if Dubya gets re-elected he could well be
the most unpopular president in US history.
Melissa
> http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses
>
>
> SUSAN ESTRICH
> FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
>
> The Clintons Are Back.
>
> Sidney Blumenthal -- much hated former Clinton aide, ethically
> challenged former journalist --$850,000 advance in hand, has a new book
> out on May 20, attacking everyone who ever attacked him or the Clintons,
> rehearsing once again the old right wing conspiracy, every attack on
> them, answered. The right wing conspiracy revived, answered, again.
>
> Hillary's book is next.
>
> Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
No way, we want them to reveal the liberal socialist agenda in all it's
putrid glory, for all to see, so that no one ever votes demoncrap again and
then we can get down to business between the republicrats and libertarians.
> The Democrats might have a chance of electing a new president if they
> could
> get the last one, and his defenders, to clear the stage. It doesn't
> matter if
> they're right or wrong. They should be history.
Darn, I'd like to see them stay around then, like an old rotting stinking
dead body that no one will bury.
> The Clintons suck up every bit of the available air. Nothing is left for
> anyone else. They are big, too big. That's the problem.
Good! The demoncraps deserve them!
> The 2004 candidates need a chance to get some attention, to rise to
> Clinton's
> level, which they'll never do so long as the likes of Sidney Blumenthal
> are playing
> into the hands of conservatives in insisting on debating the scandals of
> the 1990s.
The funny thing is that the demoncraps have no one worthy of even rising to
the Clinton's pathetic level. Maybe Al Sharpton will run against Bush.
Bwahahahaha!
( I'm hoping they don't run Bob Graham, as he probably has the best real
chance of challenging Bush. )
> Don't get me wrong. No one spent more time defending Bill Clinton than I
> did.
LOL!
> Too much, according to most of my friends. But in a constitutional
> crisis, there
> was no choice. Enough is enough.
LOL!
> There's no excuse for a grown man to have an affair with an intern,
> whether
> his name is Bill Clinton or Jack Kennedy. What the former president did
> was
> wrong.
That's the least of it. I couldn't care less who goes down on Bill, he was
the most destructive socialist bastard that ever trashed our rights,
especially our 2nd Amendment rights. We need Democrats like we need Karl
Marx for President.
Why don't you run Fidel Castro, I understand Danny Glover has endorsed him.
> The Republicans shouldn't have impeached him for it, but he shouldn't
> have
> given them the ammunition. And we shouldn't still be discussing it.
"Yes. The President should resign. He has lied to the American people. Time
and time again. And betrayed their trust. He is no longer an effective
leader since he has admitted his guilt. There is no reason to put the
American people through an impeachment. He will serve absolutely no purpose
in finishing out his term; the only possible solution is for the President
to save some dignity and resign." -- A quote describing Richard Nixon
during Watergate, made by 12th Congressional District Hopeful Bill Clinton
, ca. 1974.
> Why are we? Or, to put it more accurately, why are they?
> Not because it serves the interests of Democrats of the future.
>
> It doesn't help Howard Dean, or John Kerry, or Dick Gephardt.
> It makes George W. Bush look good.
The Dems have been doing a fabulous job of that lately. Are you sure the
Dems haven't become the left wing branch of the Republican party?
> boss. That's Sidney. He's Hillary's best friend. No wonder Republicans
> are
> delighted to see his return to the spotlight.
The Dems are just delighting the hell out of the republicans lately.
> Let's not mince words.
>
> Hillary Clinton is never going to be president of the United States.
> There is no more divisive figure in the Democratic Party, much less the
> country,
> than the former first lady.
Not only that but I strongly suspect that someone "has something on her".
Did she really have affairs with other women? Did someone see it or tape
it? That would do it.
> And I like her. But many women don't.
<GAG!> I'd as soon see Vladimir Lenin as President!
I personally think that her an Bill, when they disappeared in the USSR for
2 weeks while in college, were made into Manchurian Candidate moles by the
Soviets.
Norman Thomas, six times candidate for the President of the United States
on the Socialist Party ticket said: "The American people will never
knowingly adopt Socialism, but under the name Liberalism they will adopt
every Fragment of the Socialist program until America will one day be a
Socialist nation WITHOUT KNOWING HOW IT HAPPENED."
Three months before his 1959 visit to the U.S., Khruschev, then ruthless
dictator of International Communism stated: "We can't expect the American
people to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their
elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism UNTIL they awaken
one day to find they HAVE COMMUNISM."
> Even
> Democratic women. Even working women. Not to mention non-working,
> independent, non-political women. She can be a great senator. She's
> smart, hard working
> and effective. She is much respected among her peers.
And loathed by all who love liberty.
> But the more people talk about her as a future president, the more money
> Republicans raise.
Hillary! Hillary!
> The more people talk about her as a future
> president, the less attention the current candidates, who might win,
> receive.
LOL!
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Wayne Simon
conglomerates that run TV mostly republicans. So this is more bull anti
hilary and bill bashing. The can choose to air what important democrats
say, including hilary or they can choose to ignore it. They can show bush on
a warship with his package, or they can show him befuddles looking over all
those weapons of mass destruction that we have found so far. The right wing
follows this guy blindly like they have been hypnotized. Lets hear some
real political debate. In florida last election there were 10 ballot
amendments in south florida most were statewide. All the democratic
initiatives and issues won, but mostly republican candidates won. The
republicans attack the candidates, marginalize them, and demonize them. But
when people vote on the actual issues they vote democratic. The republican
strategy which continues in the above post by bashing individual democrats
continues without abate. The democrats have to learn to demonize and
marginalize their good buddy republicans. Saying that Bush is nice guy but
he isn't that smart gets him in office. But saying Mcbride is a jerk but may
be competent, gets him under 43 percent of the votes in the fixed election.
Dave Christian
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>
>
> SUSAN ESTRICH
> FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
>
> The Clintons Are Back.
>
That's right, you people don't like dissent and seek to silence
it at every opportunity.
I hear your brown shirts are back from the dry cleaners.
nobody
> http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses
>
>
> SUSAN ESTRICH
> FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
>
> The Clintons Are Back.
>
> Sidney Blumenthal -- much hated former Clinton aide, ethically
> challenged former journalist --$850,000 advance in hand, has a new book
> out on May 20, attacking everyone who ever attacked him or the Clintons,
> rehearsing once again the old right wing conspiracy, every attack on
> them, answered. The right wing conspiracy revived, answered, again.
>
> Hillary's book is next.
>
> Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
Interesting, Estrich was Dukakis's campaign manage,r if memory serves.
If a Dukakis coatholder is dumping on the Clintons the Dems must really
be hitting rock bottom.
nobody
Dave Christian <dcn...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <3EC66A2B...@yahoo.com>, raybou...@yahoo.com says...
> > http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses
> >
> >
> > SUSAN ESTRICH
> > FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
> >
> > The Clintons Are Back.
> >
> > Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
>
> That's right, you people don't like dissent and seek to silence
> it at every opportunity.
Susan Estrich was Mike Dukakis's campaign manager in his lame attempt at
the Presidency. So who are "you people"?
Heh, heh, heh, heh....
Dave Christian
mau...@hotmail.com says...
> On Mon, 19 May 2003 00:40:01 GMT, Dave Christian <dcn...@nc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <3EC66A2B...@yahoo.com>, raybou...@yahoo.com says...
> >> http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses
> >>
> >>
> >> SUSAN ESTRICH
> >> FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
> >>
> >> The Clintons Are Back.
> >>
> >> Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
> >
> >That's right, you people don't like dissent and seek to silence
> >it at every opportunity.
>
> someone who is a disbarred lawyer, convicted perjurer, admitted sexual
> harasser, reported rapist, land swindler, receiver of bribes for
> Presidential pardons, and the recipient of impeachment by Congress and
> to be surprised at an occasional "shut up" to be fairly unrealistic.
> I would characterize that as a gross understatement.
Someone's been listening to Rush again.
> >I hear your brown shirts are back from the dry cleaners.
>
> Ah, the "nazi" epithet. How original.
How about this. People like Ms. Estrich are anti-American because
what they seek to do is silence those who speak out.
Yeah, I'll stand by the Nazi epithet. It, like the brown shirt,
fits Ms. Estrich and her ilk well.
Dave Christian
nob...@nospam.nohow.noway.com says...
You people who, like Ms. Estrich, would seek to silence critics
of this administration.
Ms. Estrich is doing do because, apparently, she is tired of the
Clintons.
You, on the other hand, seek to do so because this adminstration
fears criticism and cannot stand up to dissent.
Any other stupid questions or have you reached your quota?
nobody
Dave Christian <dcn...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <nobody-05ECB5....@netnews.attbi.com>,
> nob...@nospam.nohow.noway.com says...
> > In article <MPG.1931f34e8...@news-server.nc.rr.com>,
> > Dave Christian <dcn...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <3EC66A2B...@yahoo.com>, raybou...@yahoo.com says...
> > > > http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > SUSAN ESTRICH
> > > > FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
> > > >
> > > > The Clintons Are Back.
> > > >
> > > > Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
> > >
> > > That's right, you people don't like dissent and seek to silence
> > > it at every opportunity.
> >
> >
> > Susan Estrich was Mike Dukakis's campaign manager in his lame attempt at
> > the Presidency. So who are "you people"?
> >
> > Heh, heh, heh, heh....
>
> You people who, like Ms. Estrich, would seek to silence critics
> of this administration.
Again, who are "you people"?
> Ms. Estrich is doing do because, apparently, she is tired of the
> Clintons.
Aren't we all.
> You, on the other hand, seek to do so because this adminstration
> fears criticism and cannot stand up to dissent.
Au contraire. I love it when Billery mouths off.
> Any other stupid questions or have you reached your quota?
Who's trying to silence Billery? Like Susan says, every time they mouth
off, the more money Republicans raise. I love it.
nobody
Dave Christian <dcn...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> In article <6oricv4o645u7m9mj...@4ax.com>,
> mau...@hotmail.com says...
> > On Mon, 19 May 2003 00:40:01 GMT, Dave Christian <dcn...@nc.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >In article <3EC66A2B...@yahoo.com>, raybou...@yahoo.com says...
> > >> http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> SUSAN ESTRICH
> > >> FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
> > >>
> > >> The Clintons Are Back.
> > >>
> > >> Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
> > >
> > >That's right, you people don't like dissent and seek to silence
> > >it at every opportunity.
> >
> > Of course, as a pragmatist, I find that to have "dissent" coming from
> > someone who is a disbarred lawyer, convicted perjurer, admitted sexual
> > harasser, reported rapist, land swindler, receiver of bribes for
> > Presidential pardons, and the recipient of impeachment by Congress and
> > to be surprised at an occasional "shut up" to be fairly unrealistic.
> > I would characterize that as a gross understatement.
>
> Someone's been listening to Rush again.
Get a clue, lots of people listen to Rush.
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> Democrats much be SCARED witless -- Estridge is a
> rabid left-winger and should be on the Clintons side
> normally.
beyond me.
Wayne Alan Simon
Thomas <mau...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >> http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses
> >>
> >>
> >> SUSAN ESTRICH
> >> FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
> >>
> >> The Clintons Are Back.
> >>
> >> Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
> >
> >That's right, you people don't like dissent and seek to silence
> >it at every opportunity.
>
> someone who is a disbarred lawyer, convicted perjurer, admitted sexual
> harasser, reported rapist, land swindler, receiver of bribes for
> Presidential pardons, and the recipient of impeachment by Congress and
> to be surprised at an occasional "shut up" to be fairly unrealistic.
> I would characterize that as a gross understatement.
>
clinton. Didn't Bush's wife run over and kill and ex boyfriend. Ms. Prissy.
Governor Bush's wife was caught trying to sneak in illegal goods past
customs and not report and declare her incoming items. Clinton was not born
to a wealthy family and made it. Bush was born on homeplate with a platinum
spoon in his mouth, and he actually thought he earned it. Not that I am a
big Clinton fan, but I find the attacks on a rather articulate past
president outrageous. Yet the slightest suggestion that Bush is less than
Jesus himself, makes one treasonous. This is how the antichrist is supposed
to arise.
>
>
> >I hear your brown shirts are back from the dry cleaners.
>
>
>
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> raybou...@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<3EC66A2B...@yahoo.com>...
> > http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=ses
> >
> >
> > SUSAN ESTRICH
> > FOR RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, MAY 14, 2003,
> >
> > The Clintons Are Back.
> >
> > Sidney Blumenthal -- much hated former Clinton aide, ethically
> > challenged former journalist --$850,000 advance in hand, has a new book
> > out on May 20, attacking everyone who ever attacked him or the Clintons,
> > rehearsing once again the old right wing conspiracy, every attack on
> > them, answered. The right wing conspiracy revived, answered, again.
> >
> > Hillary's book is next.
> >
> > Could someone please tell these people to shut up?
> >
>
>
> BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! The redneck RepublicanNazis are
> running scared. I love it!
The joke is on you, o challenged one. The more they stay in the
limelight, the more it hurts the Dem candidates. :-) I'm lovin' it.