TR: Jules Verne
JSJ
November 10, 2003
"The third pitch of Jules Verne will demand 25 feet of continuous
intricate face climbing, with a fifty to sixty foot fall possible.
Such an undertaking lies in a realm which, seemingly, no man has yet
entered and epitomizes well the future of rock climbing."
- Roger Briggs, Climbing Magazine, 1974.
"The runout is the fearsome part, but keep in mind that it isn't that
tough if you've made it this far, and there's good gear in the rotten
band above."
- Comment on climbingboulder.com.
"Keep in mind, however, that some well-known climbers have taken 30-40
foot falls here."
- Follow-up comment on cb.com.
"…and hurt themselves."
- Follow-up comment on cb.com.
And of course, "Chaaaaarrrrlieeeeeeeeeeeee!"
- Annie Whitehouse yelling her belayer's name while airborne.
These things were pretty well burned into my memory and yet all I
could think was "If I jump off at this point I probably won't get
hurt," and, "Damn you leg! Damn you! Stop shaking!" The holds are
really, really small. Shaking is not helpful. I had just stepped up
past my last piece of gear – a bombproof wire – and onto the infamous
runout face of the third pitch of Jules Verne.
***
Jules Verne has been somewhat immortalized by Peter Mortimer's film
Scary Faces, but even before the film it had already gained a
reputation among Boulder climbers as one of the great test pieces of
Eldorado Canyon. Sadly I wasn't even born when Steve Wunsch and Jim
Erickson did the spectacular ground-up first ascent of the crux third
pitch: pre-sticky rubber, pre-chalk, pre-modern gear. In fact, the
first time I had even heard of the climb was in 2001. I had done a
paltry half-dozen climbs, including my first lead, and couldn't even
conceptualize what a long run out was (heck, I didn't even know where
the West Ridge or Rincon were for that matter). That day we were on
our way to climb Calypso and Reggae and my partner had stopped for a
moment to point out the line of the Naked Edge. I stared at the upper
reaches of Redgarden, completely unable to fathom where the Edge went,
despite my partner's patient explanation. I remember him quietly
saying, "…and just next to it is Jules Verne."
I wasn't interested. My mind was on Reggae – potentially my first 5.8
in Eldo. But later that year I watched Scary Faces and I became very
interested. I knew that one day I would try to climb it.
That day turned out to be this Monday. Not that I had planned it or
anything: I had been climbing several days in a row and had hoped to
take a rest day or two. I was burning out fast – in fact, just one
day before, I took a lead fall on the first pitch of Captain Beyond
(10a), and had to hang on the second pitch (9+)! I was obviously not
100%. But at the same time I was feeling the pressure of the changing
weather and sensed that my window of opportunity to climb it this
season was shrinking rapidly. When Shane called that morning I opened
the shades and saw that the skies were blue. I hung up the phone and
rolled out of bed. "Okay. I guess this is it."
***
I moved up another five feet above the wire and paused. It was
tenuous but it was a stance of sorts – two small crimps and legs
stemmed below me. I was still entertaining crazy thoughts of just
jumping off before getting any further away from that damn wire. At
least my leg had stopped shaking.
"I suspect that most falls occur because there is a place to stop and
momentum is hard to regain. Good luck!"
- Steve Dieckhoff on climbingboulder.com
Hmmm. This must be the place that I'm not supposed to stop at. It
also felt like it was the highest possible point that jumping off (!)
might actually be a reasonable option. "Jump now or go all the way,"
I thought. I stared for what felt like an eternity at the rotten band
above. Then I took a deep breath and rocked up onto my right foot. I
was committed.
***
As I thought through what it would take to climb Jules Verne over the
past few weeks I spent far more time considering the first pitch than
the third. This pitch is a long, physical 11b/c roof sequence –
beginning with the T2 roof but breaking left for a ten-foot stretch
along the lip. My first experience with it was two years prior: I had
joined Bill Wright and a few other guys one morning to do a lap on
Touch and Go and then top rope pitch one of T2. That morning I
couldn't even hang from the starting holds.
The following year I got on T2 on two other occasions and still
couldn't reach the hold at the lip of the roof. Earlier this year I
TR'd the pitch for a fourth time and was finally able to snag it.
I knew that the day I attempted Jules Verne I needed to lead the first
pitch as well as the third, but since I had lost the opportunity to
onsight it (at least the opening moves), I decided to rehearse it one
last time. Last week, with Ivan Rezucha, I practiced the moves up to
the hold at the lip and then practiced clipping the drilled angle (all
while on TR). After resting, I tried climbing along the lip of the
roof to the crux stand-up move below the second pin. It all felt
good.
So, Monday morning we warmed up by climbing Touch and Go, and on
rappel I hung a draw from each of these two pins, just as I had done
with Ivan. Only this time we pulled the rope. As it hit the ground I
looked at Shane and chuckled, "well I guess we have to go up now."
I put my hands on the starting holds and reviewed the sequence while
Shane threw our packs on the top of some of the pointier rocks below
the roof – good thinking! Then Shane put his hands up to spot me but
smirked as if to say, "Don't fall because realistically I can't do a
thing for ya." Fortunately he didn't have to. The first clip gave me
a big boost of confidence and the rest of the pitch – traversing the
lip, the second clip, the crux stand-up, underclinging left, and
pulling over the buldge – went slowly but steadily. Shane followed
(and had the harder job of having to unclip those two pre-hung draws),
and then did a fine job of leading the second pitch up to the next
belay.
At the belay I checked my knot some 5 stinking times.
Two trucks pulled to a stop on the road below and a few climbers
jumped out to watch. Awww shit. This is for real.
Check knot. Deep breaths. Check knot one more time.
Fortunately the 25-foot stretch of 5.10 leading up to the runout was
demanding enough to make me to momentarily forget exactly what I was
getting into. Unfortunately the nice stance at the top of the
dihedral, from which I could conveniently survey the rest of the pitch
(and I spent a full ten minutes doing so), left me plenty of room to
get excited again.
I glanced over my shoulder hoping the climbers down on the road
weren't watching anymore. Shit. They were breaking out the Crazy
Creek chairs and popcorn. Shit.
I stepped up onto the face and, leg shaking, I moved upwards a bit to
a "stance." After a minute or two of mental ping-pong, I took a
breath and rocked up onto my right foot. I was committed.
***
The next ten or fifteen feet of climbing was mostly a blur. One
sequence stands out however: Pulling desperately on an impossibly
small knob, my arms suddenly felt like jelly – I wasn't pumped; it was
fear. I wanted to surrender to gravity. I felt so dang heavy. But
for some reason I just whispered, "Hang on Josh." Pull on the knob
and lunge for a trace of chalk, hoping that it is good – it's enough.
One or two more moves and I had the jug. My very next breath was an
adrenaline-fueled whoop.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah!
OK... let's get a piece of gear in.
Mad Dog
>The next ten or fifteen feet of climbing was mostly a blur. One
>sequence stands out however: Pulling desperately on an impossibly
>small knob, my arms suddenly felt like jelly – I wasn't pumped; it was
>fear. I wanted to surrender to gravity. I felt so dang heavy. But
>for some reason I just whispered, "Hang on Josh." Pull on the knob
>and lunge for a trace of chalk, hoping that it is good – it's enough.
>One or two more moves and I had the jug. My very next breath was an
>adrenaline-fueled whoop.
Excellent TR, Josh - and congrats! We don't get many quality TRs here these
days. Thanks. RCGH03.
Geoff Jennings
but I felt like I was there.
best of 2003 nomination.
Geoff
"JSJ" <josh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jules Verne:
> November 10, 2003
>
> "The third pitch of Jules Verne will demand 25 feet of continuous
> intricate face climbing, with a fifty to sixty foot fall possible.
> Such an undertaking lies in a realm which, seemingly, no man has yet
> entered and epitomizes well the future of rock climbing."
> - Roger Briggs, Climbing Magazine, 1974.
>
> "The runout is the fearsome part, but keep in mind that it isn't that
> tough if you've made it this far, and there's good gear in the rotten
> band above."
> - Comment on climbingboulder.com.
>
> "Keep in mind, however, that some well-known climbers have taken 30-40
> foot falls here."
> - Follow-up comment on cb.com.
>
> ".and hurt themselves."
> - Follow-up comment on cb.com.
>
> And of course, "Chaaaaarrrrlieeeeeeeeeeeee!"
> - Annie Whitehouse yelling her belayer's name while airborne.
>
> These things were pretty well burned into my memory and yet all I
> could think was "If I jump off at this point I probably won't get
> hurt," and, "Damn you leg! Damn you! Stop shaking!" The holds are
> really, really small. Shaking is not helpful. I had just stepped up
> past my last piece of gear - a bombproof wire - and onto the infamous
> runout face of the third pitch of Jules Verne.
>
> ***
>
> Jules Verne has been somewhat immortalized by Peter Mortimer's film
> Scary Faces, but even before the film it had already gained a
> reputation among Boulder climbers as one of the great test pieces of
> Eldorado Canyon. Sadly I wasn't even born when Steve Wunsch and Jim
> Erickson did the spectacular ground-up first ascent of the crux third
> pitch: pre-sticky rubber, pre-chalk, pre-modern gear. In fact, the
> first time I had even heard of the climb was in 2001. I had done a
> paltry half-dozen climbs, including my first lead, and couldn't even
> conceptualize what a long run out was (heck, I didn't even know where
> the West Ridge or Rincon were for that matter). That day we were on
> our way to climb Calypso and Reggae and my partner had stopped for a
> moment to point out the line of the Naked Edge. I stared at the upper
> reaches of Redgarden, completely unable to fathom where the Edge went,
> despite my partner's patient explanation. I remember him quietly
> saying, ".and just next to it is Jules Verne."
>
> I wasn't interested. My mind was on Reggae - potentially my first 5.8
> in Eldo. But later that year I watched Scary Faces and I became very
> interested. I knew that one day I would try to climb it.
>
> That day turned out to be this Monday. Not that I had planned it or
> anything: I had been climbing several days in a row and had hoped to
> take a rest day or two. I was burning out fast - in fact, just one
> day before, I took a lead fall on the first pitch of Captain Beyond
> (10a), and had to hang on the second pitch (9+)! I was obviously not
> 100%. But at the same time I was feeling the pressure of the changing
> weather and sensed that my window of opportunity to climb it this
> season was shrinking rapidly. When Shane called that morning I opened
> the shades and saw that the skies were blue. I hung up the phone and
> rolled out of bed. "Okay. I guess this is it."
>
> ***
>
> I moved up another five feet above the wire and paused. It was
> tenuous but it was a stance of sorts - two small crimps and legs
> stemmed below me. I was still entertaining crazy thoughts of just
> jumping off before getting any further away from that damn wire. At
> least my leg had stopped shaking.
>
> "I suspect that most falls occur because there is a place to stop and
> momentum is hard to regain. Good luck!"
> - Steve Dieckhoff on climbingboulder.com
>
> Hmmm. This must be the place that I'm not supposed to stop at. It
> also felt like it was the highest possible point that jumping off (!)
> might actually be a reasonable option. "Jump now or go all the way,"
> I thought. I stared for what felt like an eternity at the rotten band
> above. Then I took a deep breath and rocked up onto my right foot. I
> was committed.
>
> ***
>
> As I thought through what it would take to climb Jules Verne over the
> past few weeks I spent far more time considering the first pitch than
> the third. This pitch is a long, physical 11b/c roof sequence -
> beginning with the T2 roof but breaking left for a ten-foot stretch
> along the lip. My first experience with it was two years prior: I had
> joined Bill Wright and a few other guys one morning to do a lap on
> Touch and Go and then top rope pitch one of T2. That morning I
> couldn't even hang from the starting holds.
>
> The following year I got on T2 on two other occasions and still
> couldn't reach the hold at the lip of the roof. Earlier this year I
> TR'd the pitch for a fourth time and was finally able to snag it.
>
> I knew that the day I attempted Jules Verne I needed to lead the first
> pitch as well as the third, but since I had lost the opportunity to
> onsight it (at least the opening moves), I decided to rehearse it one
> last time. Last week, with Ivan Rezucha, I practiced the moves up to
> the hold at the lip and then practiced clipping the drilled angle (all
> while on TR). After resting, I tried climbing along the lip of the
> roof to the crux stand-up move below the second pin. It all felt
> good.
>
> So, Monday morning we warmed up by climbing Touch and Go, and on
> rappel I hung a draw from each of these two pins, just as I had done
> with Ivan. Only this time we pulled the rope. As it hit the ground I
> looked at Shane and chuckled, "well I guess we have to go up now."
>
> I put my hands on the starting holds and reviewed the sequence while
> Shane threw our packs on the top of some of the pointier rocks below
> the roof - good thinking! Then Shane put his hands up to spot me but
> smirked as if to say, "Don't fall because realistically I can't do a
> thing for ya." Fortunately he didn't have to. The first clip gave me
> a big boost of confidence and the rest of the pitch - traversing the
> lip, the second clip, the crux stand-up, underclinging left, and
> pulling over the buldge - went slowly but steadily. Shane followed
> (and had the harder job of having to unclip those two pre-hung draws),
> and then did a fine job of leading the second pitch up to the next
> belay.
>
> At the belay I checked my knot some 5 stinking times.
>
> Two trucks pulled to a stop on the road below and a few climbers
> jumped out to watch. Awww shit. This is for real.
>
> Check knot. Deep breaths. Check knot one more time.
>
> Fortunately the 25-foot stretch of 5.10 leading up to the runout was
> demanding enough to make me to momentarily forget exactly what I was
> getting into. Unfortunately the nice stance at the top of the
> dihedral, from which I could conveniently survey the rest of the pitch
> (and I spent a full ten minutes doing so), left me plenty of room to
> get excited again.
>
> I glanced over my shoulder hoping the climbers down on the road
> weren't watching anymore. Shit. They were breaking out the Crazy
> Creek chairs and popcorn. Shit.
>
> I stepped up onto the face and, leg shaking, I moved upwards a bit to
> a "stance." After a minute or two of mental ping-pong, I took a
> breath and rocked up onto my right foot. I was committed.
>
> ***
>
> The next ten or fifteen feet of climbing was mostly a blur. One
> sequence stands out however: Pulling desperately on an impossibly
> small knob, my arms suddenly felt like jelly - I wasn't pumped; it was
> fear. I wanted to surrender to gravity. I felt so dang heavy. But
> for some reason I just whispered, "Hang on Josh." Pull on the knob
> and lunge for a trace of chalk, hoping that it is good - it's enough.
Scott Conner
> Jules Verne:
> November 10, 2003
Great job, Josh. Thanks for the TR. I'm glad you didn't have to say
"SHHAAAAAAAANE!!" while you were leading P3!
SC
Chiloe
(A being-there TR of most excellent send.)
> Jules Verne has been somewhat immortalized by Peter Mortimer's film
> Scary Faces, but even before the film it had already gained a
> reputation among Boulder climbers as one of the great test pieces of
> Eldorado Canyon. Sadly I wasn't even born when Steve Wunsch and Jim
> Erickson did the spectacular ground-up first ascent of the crux third
> pitch: pre-sticky rubber, pre-chalk, pre-modern gear.>
It had quite a reputation even before the first ascent, as the
best Boulder climbers kept trying. Steve Wunsch in particular
mastered the trick of down-climbing from well into the runout.
> Hell yeah!
>
> OK... let's get a piece of gear in.
After you placed the gear, did you look up for a second at the
*next* runout, Roger Briggs' direct finish?
Andy Gale
JSJ wrote:
> Jules Verne:
> November 10, 2003
Excellent TR. And congrats.
Greg
Wow. I got sketched out just reading that. Nice TR.
-Greg
A. Cairns
JSJ wrote:
> Jules Verne:
> November 10, 2003
>
> "The third pitch of Jules Verne
!!!!!!!
Excellent. Great use of quotes. Wonderfully written.
Andy Cairns
Hardman Knott
josh...@hotmail.com (JSJ) wrote:
> I glanced over my shoulder hoping the climbers down on the road
> weren't watching anymore. Shit. They were breaking out the Crazy
> Creek chairs and popcorn. Shit.
Here's a steller example of why RC.com-type censorship sucks.
Now boys and girls, he did not say poo--he said shit.
And he really, really meant it.
Thanks for the laugh--and for the best TR of the year.
Hardman Knott
Crotch Robbins
> Jules Verne:
> November 10, 2003
Nice send and nice TR. Thanks.
Adrian MacNair
josh...@hotmail.com wrote on 11/11/03 5:30 AM:
> Jules Verne:
> November 10, 2003
A great story. I wouldn't have been surprised to see this in a published
magazine with full-colour glossies.
I love the part where the dudes crack out the chairs and start watching.
Nothing says "no chickening out" like arm-chair onseekers.
Charles Vernon
Not sure whether I'm more impressed with the climb (especially after
belaying you on Captain Beyond!), or your trip report. Love the
format!
Charles
josh...@hotmail.com (JSJ) wrote in message news:<250c8a42.0311...@posting.google.com>...
> Jules Verne:
> November 10, 2003
>
> "The third pitch of Jules Verne will demand 25 feet of continuous
> intricate face climbing, with a fifty to sixty foot fall possible.
> Such an undertaking lies in a realm which, seemingly, no man has yet
> entered and epitomizes well the future of rock climbing."
> - Roger Briggs, Climbing Magazine, 1974.
>
> "The runout is the fearsome part, but keep in mind that it isn't that
> tough if you've made it this far, and there's good gear in the rotten
> band above."
> - Comment on climbingboulder.com.
>
> "Keep in mind, however, that some well-known climbers have taken 30-40
> foot falls here."
> - Follow-up comment on cb.com.
>
> "?and hurt themselves."
> - Follow-up comment on cb.com.
>
> And of course, "Chaaaaarrrrlieeeeeeeeeeeee!"
> - Annie Whitehouse yelling her belayer's name while airborne.
>
> These things were pretty well burned into my memory and yet all I
> could think was "If I jump off at this point I probably won't get
> hurt," and, "Damn you leg! Damn you! Stop shaking!" The holds are
> really, really small. Shaking is not helpful. I had just stepped up
> past my last piece of gear ? a bombproof wire ? and onto the infamous
> runout face of the third pitch of Jules Verne.
>
> ***
>
> Jules Verne has been somewhat immortalized by Peter Mortimer's film
> Scary Faces, but even before the film it had already gained a
> reputation among Boulder climbers as one of the great test pieces of
> Eldorado Canyon. Sadly I wasn't even born when Steve Wunsch and Jim
> Erickson did the spectacular ground-up first ascent of the crux third
> pitch: pre-sticky rubber, pre-chalk, pre-modern gear. In fact, the
> first time I had even heard of the climb was in 2001. I had done a
> paltry half-dozen climbs, including my first lead, and couldn't even
> conceptualize what a long run out was (heck, I didn't even know where
> the West Ridge or Rincon were for that matter). That day we were on
> our way to climb Calypso and Reggae and my partner had stopped for a
> moment to point out the line of the Naked Edge. I stared at the upper
> reaches of Redgarden, completely unable to fathom where the Edge went,
> despite my partner's patient explanation. I remember him quietly
> saying, "?and just next to it is Jules Verne."
>
> I wasn't interested. My mind was on Reggae ? potentially my first 5.8
> in Eldo. But later that year I watched Scary Faces and I became very
> interested. I knew that one day I would try to climb it.
>
> That day turned out to be this Monday. Not that I had planned it or
> anything: I had been climbing several days in a row and had hoped to
> take a rest day or two. I was burning out fast ? in fact, just one
> day before, I took a lead fall on the first pitch of Captain Beyond
> (10a), and had to hang on the second pitch (9+)! I was obviously not
> 100%. But at the same time I was feeling the pressure of the changing
> weather and sensed that my window of opportunity to climb it this
> season was shrinking rapidly. When Shane called that morning I opened
> the shades and saw that the skies were blue. I hung up the phone and
> rolled out of bed. "Okay. I guess this is it."
>
> ***
>
> I moved up another five feet above the wire and paused. It was
> tenuous but it was a stance of sorts ? two small crimps and legs
> stemmed below me. I was still entertaining crazy thoughts of just
> jumping off before getting any further away from that damn wire. At
> least my leg had stopped shaking.
>
> "I suspect that most falls occur because there is a place to stop and
> momentum is hard to regain. Good luck!"
> - Steve Dieckhoff on climbingboulder.com
>
> Hmmm. This must be the place that I'm not supposed to stop at. It
> also felt like it was the highest possible point that jumping off (!)
> might actually be a reasonable option. "Jump now or go all the way,"
> I thought. I stared for what felt like an eternity at the rotten band
> above. Then I took a deep breath and rocked up onto my right foot. I
> was committed.
>
> ***
>
> As I thought through what it would take to climb Jules Verne over the
> past few weeks I spent far more time considering the first pitch than
> the third. This pitch is a long, physical 11b/c roof sequence ?
> beginning with the T2 roof but breaking left for a ten-foot stretch
> along the lip. My first experience with it was two years prior: I had
> joined Bill Wright and a few other guys one morning to do a lap on
> Touch and Go and then top rope pitch one of T2. That morning I
> couldn't even hang from the starting holds.
>
> The following year I got on T2 on two other occasions and still
> couldn't reach the hold at the lip of the roof. Earlier this year I
> TR'd the pitch for a fourth time and was finally able to snag it.
>
> I knew that the day I attempted Jules Verne I needed to lead the first
> pitch as well as the third, but since I had lost the opportunity to
> onsight it (at least the opening moves), I decided to rehearse it one
> last time. Last week, with Ivan Rezucha, I practiced the moves up to
> the hold at the lip and then practiced clipping the drilled angle (all
> while on TR). After resting, I tried climbing along the lip of the
> roof to the crux stand-up move below the second pin. It all felt
> good.
>
> So, Monday morning we warmed up by climbing Touch and Go, and on
> rappel I hung a draw from each of these two pins, just as I had done
> with Ivan. Only this time we pulled the rope. As it hit the ground I
> looked at Shane and chuckled, "well I guess we have to go up now."
>
> I put my hands on the starting holds and reviewed the sequence while
> Shane threw our packs on the top of some of the pointier rocks below
> the roof ? good thinking! Then Shane put his hands up to spot me but
> smirked as if to say, "Don't fall because realistically I can't do a
> thing for ya." Fortunately he didn't have to. The first clip gave me
> a big boost of confidence and the rest of the pitch ? traversing the
> lip, the second clip, the crux stand-up, underclinging left, and
> pulling over the buldge ? went slowly but steadily. Shane followed
> (and had the harder job of having to unclip those two pre-hung draws),
> and then did a fine job of leading the second pitch up to the next
> belay.
>
> At the belay I checked my knot some 5 stinking times.
>
> Two trucks pulled to a stop on the road below and a few climbers
> jumped out to watch. Awww shit. This is for real.
>
> Check knot. Deep breaths. Check knot one more time.
>
> Fortunately the 25-foot stretch of 5.10 leading up to the runout was
> demanding enough to make me to momentarily forget exactly what I was
> getting into. Unfortunately the nice stance at the top of the
> dihedral, from which I could conveniently survey the rest of the pitch
> (and I spent a full ten minutes doing so), left me plenty of room to
> get excited again.
>
> I glanced over my shoulder hoping the climbers down on the road
> weren't watching anymore. Shit. They were breaking out the Crazy
> Creek chairs and popcorn. Shit.
>
> I stepped up onto the face and, leg shaking, I moved upwards a bit to
> a "stance." After a minute or two of mental ping-pong, I took a
> breath and rocked up onto my right foot. I was committed.
>
> ***
>
> The next ten or fifteen feet of climbing was mostly a blur. One
> sequence stands out however: Pulling desperately on an impossibly
> small knob, my arms suddenly felt like jelly ? I wasn't pumped; it was
> fear. I wanted to surrender to gravity. I felt so dang heavy. But
> for some reason I just whispered, "Hang on Josh." Pull on the knob
> and lunge for a trace of chalk, hoping that it is good ? it's enough.
David
"JSJ" <josh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:250c8a42.0311...@posting.google.com...
> Jules Verne:
Nice, thanks!
Julie
>
> RCGH03.
Singular, not plural. Hands-down, the greatest hit of 03.
Amazing writing, Josh. Amazing job on the climbing, too - wish I'd been
there in the Crazy Creek chair!
Julie
kellie
kellie
Charles Vernon
Chiloe, you are refering to Lene's Dream, which Josh not only looked
at, but climbed. I asked him about it and he told me it was harder,
but much better protected with small gear, than the JV runout.
Charles
Ron Olsen
> And of course, "Chaaaaarrrrlieeeeeeeeeeeee!"
> - Annie Whitehouse yelling her belayer's name while airborne.
Saturday, April 30, 1988: My partner and I were climbing upper T-2
and witnessed this fall. It remains burned in my memory to this day.
Great trip report, Josh!
--
Ron Olsen
Boulder Colorado
rono...@yahoo.com
amanda
> November 10, 2003
Congratulations, sounds like a great adventure!
Chiloe
> ich...@hotmail.com (Chiloe) wrote:
> >
> > After you placed the gear, did you look up for a second at the
> > *next* runout, Roger Briggs' direct finish?
>
> Chiloe, you are refering to Lene's Dream, which Josh not only looked
> at, but climbed. I asked him about it and he told me it was harder,
> but much better protected with small gear, than the JV runout.
Outstanding. Closest I've come to either is rapping past
them, and they looked spooky then.
Mark Heyman
"amanda" <amand...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And all the above posts. It was Thanksgiving yesterday and I have today off
too. Finally I've had a chance to read through some TR's. With you Steven
and Madog in the bottom of my browser list. I sure don't need and
magazines.
Thanks.
Mark Heyman