BULLY GETS ASS KICKED ON OWN SHOW [full transcript]
Morrissey Breen
a "fresh personality" - has been revealed, time and again, to be
nothing more than a sanctimonious hypocrite on his own dismal Fox
Television show. A few months ago, O'Reilly became furious when a
group of 9/11 victims signed a petition called "Not in our Name",
which opposed the illegal invasion of Iraq. He invited one of them,
Jeremy Glick, whose father had been killed in the WTC, on to his show,
where he went after him with a vengeance. Imagine any of those
"respectful" and "responsible" American television interviewers going
after, say, Colin ("My Lai didn't happen") Powell or Condoleezza
("SPELL MY NAME RIGHT, ASSHOLE!") Rice or Donald ("Blame the Brits")
Rumsfeld like this. It'll never happen of course - they're too
"responsible" for that ever to happen. But if it did, you can bet
that even Donald Rumsfeld at this most intimidating would not make a
fool of the interviewer the way that young Glick makes a fool of
O'Reilly on this occasion.
Here's the transcript in full....
5 February 2003
BULLY BILL
I caught a bit of the O'Reilly Factor during dinner last night, during
which Bill berated Jeremy Glick, a signatory of the Not in Our Name ad
whose father died in the 9/11 attacks. I couldn't find a transcript on
the Fox site, but happily, one came in over the transom (probably
pulled off Lexis, so no link available).
This is how Bill O'Reilly behaves when faced with genuine
disagreement:
O'REILLY: You are mouthing a far left position that is a marginal
position in this society, which you're entitled to.
GLICK: It's marginal -- right.
O'REILLY: You're entitled to it, all right, but you're -- you see,
even --I'm sure your beliefs are sincere, but what upsets me is I
don't think your father would be approving of this.
GLICK: Well, actually, my father thought that Bush's presidency was
illegitimate.
O'REILLY: Maybe he did, but...
GLICK: I also didn't think that Bush...
O'REILLY: ... I don't think he'd be equating this country as a
terrorist nation as you are.
GLICK: Well, I wasn't saying that it was necessarily like that.
O'REILLY: Yes, you are. You signed...
GLICK: What I'm saying is...
O'REILLY: ... this, and that absolutely said that.
GLICK: ... is that in -- six months before the Soviet invasion in
Afghanistan, starting in the Carter administration and continuing and
escalating while Bush's father was head of the CIA, we recruited a
hundred thousand radical mujahadeens to combat a democratic government
in Afghanistan, the Turaki government.
O'REILLY: All right. I don't want to...
GLICK: Maybe...
O'REILLY: I don't want to debate world politics with you.
GLICK: Well, why not? This is about world politics.
O'REILLY: Because, No. 1, I don't really care what you think.
GLICK: Well, OK.
O'REILLY: You're -- I want to...
GLICK: But you do care because you...
O'REILLY: No, no. Look...
GLICK: The reason why you care is because you evoke 9/11...
O'REILLY: Here's why I care.
GLICK: ... to rationalize...
O'REILLY: Here's why I care...
GLICK: Let me finish. You evoke 9/11 to rationalize everything from
domestic plunder to imperialistic aggression worldwide.
O'REILLY: OK. That's a bunch...
GLICK: You evoke sympathy with the 9/11 families.
O'REILLY: That's a bunch of crap. I've done more for the 9/11 families
by their own admission -- I've done more for them than you will ever
hope to do.
GLICK: OK.
O'REILLY: So you keep your mouth shut when you sit here exploiting
those people.
GLICK: Well, you're not representing me. You're not representing me.
O'REILLY: And I'd never represent you. You know why?
GLICK: Why?
O'REILLY: Because you have a warped view of this world and a warped
view of this country.
GLICK: Well, explain that. Let me give you an example of a parallel...
O'REILLY: No, I'm not going to debate this with you, all right.
GLICK: Well, let me give you an example of parallel experience. On
September 14...
O'REILLY: No, no. Here's -- here's the...
GLICK: On September 14...
O'REILLY: Here's the record.
GLICK: OK.
O'REILLY: All right. You didn't support the action against Afghanistan
to remove the Taliban. You were against it, OK.
GLICK: ... The people of the ruling class, the small minority.
O'REILLY: Cut his mic. I'm not going to dress you down anymore, out of
respect for your father.
We will be back in a moment with more of THE FACTOR.
GLICK: That means we're done?
O'REILLY: We're done.
The last few seconds of that exchange were really something to watch.
I don't think I've ever seen a shouting head actually tell his guest
to "Shut up! Shut up!" or to tell his producer to "cut his mic."
posted by Tom Tomorrow at 02:43 PM | link
5 February 2003
http://www.thismodernworld.com/weblog/mtarchives/week_2003_02_02.html
Brian Harmer
Breen) wrote:
>That blustering scoundrel Bill O'Reilly - our chum Redbaiter calls him
>a "fresh personality" - has been revealed, time and again, to be
>nothing more than a sanctimonious hypocrite on his own dismal Fox
>Television show. ....
>Here's the transcript in full....
Is this compulsion to transcribe entirely irrelevant rubbish some
internet manifestation of Tourette's syndrome?
What on earth does it have to do with New Zealand? And wouldn't anyone
remotely interested in this crap have listened to it for him or
herself?
Or alternately, might you consider transcribing absolutely everything
on every channel and posting it solely in a group called
alt.transcriptions'r'us
William J. Ewing
<brian....@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>On 13 Jul 2003 11:39:52 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
>Breen) wrote:
>
>>That blustering scoundrel Bill O'Reilly - our chum Redbaiter calls him
>>a "fresh personality" - has been revealed, time and again, to be
>>nothing more than a sanctimonious hypocrite on his own dismal Fox
>>Television show. ....
>
>>Here's the transcript in full....
Thank you, Morrissey Breen, for a post worthy of an A+. I found it of
very great interest despite what those who dwell in ivory towers
think.
WJE
Brian Harmer
wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:00:01 +1200, Brian Harmer
><brian....@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>On 13 Jul 2003 11:39:52 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
>>Breen) wrote:
>>
>>>That blustering scoundrel Bill O'Reilly - our chum Redbaiter calls him
>>>a "fresh personality" - has been revealed, time and again, to be
>>>nothing more than a sanctimonious hypocrite on his own dismal Fox
>>>Television show. ....
>>
>>>Here's the transcript in full....
>
>Thank you, Morrissey Breen, for a post worthy of an A+. I found it of
>very great interest despite what those who dwell in ivory towers
>think.
My tower is rather ordinary 1956 vintage MOW brick.
I have no doubt at all that there are people who are legitimately
interested in US chat shows and odd personalities. The question in my
mind is "why this group as a vehicle for it?"
Isn't there a group that discusses foreign TV programmes?
And if it really was necessary to discuss it here, wouldn't it have
been sufficient to post the url so that those who were interested
could go there? I gave it a D.
--
Brian M. Harmer
rag
Morrissey Breen wrote in message ...
>That blustering scoundrel Bill O'Reilly - our chum Redbaiter calls him
>a "fresh personality" -
The only thing this interview show's is that GLICK is a complete fuckwit.
rag
Morrissey Breen
loses it in message news:<9ae3hv883l3mcku77...@4ax.com>...
>
> Is this compulsion to transcribe entirely irrelevant rubbish some
> internet manifestation of Tourette's syndrome?
Irrelevant? I was responding to a post from Redbaiter, who had
approvingly quoted the dunderhead O'Reilly. What - is there now some
Made in New Zealand threshold for hyper-texting?
>
> What on earth does it have to do with New Zealand?
Rotten right wing "journalists" and "commentators", or just plain
bewildered ones, are as much a feature of New Zealand media as they
are of the U.S. media. Haven't you listened to NewstalkZB lately?
>
> And wouldn't anyone
> remotely interested in this crap have listened to it for him or herself?
Only half of it was crap. One of the two people involved in that
fraught exchange was extraordinarily lucid and courageous in the face
of a brutal onslaught from an ignoramus. Go back and read it again.
That is, assuming you even read it in the first place, of course.
>
> Or alternately, might you consider transcribing absolutely everything
> on every channel and posting it solely in a group called
> alt.transcriptions'r'us
In case you haven't noticed - and it looks like you haven't - on the
rare occasions I do transcribe anything from the TV or radio, it's
usually to point out and expose some particularly odious example of
sanctimonious, canting hypocrisy. So of course the sanctimonious,
canting hypocrite Bill O'Reilly is always going to be a target. Other
humbugs I've transcribed, or helped to transcribe, are Murray Deaker
and Brian Edwards.
Morrissey Breen
his bonnet about my transcripts. He tries to make a case for his
bizarre aversion to moi in message
news:<qim3hv8skkko1jt2c...@4ax.com>...
>
> My tower is rather ordinary 1956 vintage MOW brick.
Whatever it's made of, you're pretty darned resistant to having the
old horizons broadened!
>
> I have no doubt at all that there are people who are legitimately
> interested in US chat shows and odd personalities.
This is not a "chat" show. Fox promotes that fool as one of its star
political commentators. He, and other ignorant "patriotic"
broadcasters like him, is immensely powerful and influential. Hell,
just read the next post by our chums Berend de Boer or LeftAintRight
or Bob Howard if you doubt me.
>
> The question in my mind is "why this group as a vehicle for it?"
Why have you got a problem with it? Why did you not rage at
Redvbaiter, who brought the topic up in the first place?
>
> Isn't there a group that discusses foreign TV programmes?
So we're not allowed to discuss foreign TV programmes now? When did
that rule come in?
>
> And if it really was necessary to discuss it here, wouldn't it have
> been sufficient to post the url so that those who were interested
> could go there?
So I take it that's a new rule then too?
>
> I gave it a D.
At the moment, in your state of mind, I don't think you're capable of
grading anything.
Morrissey Breen
contributes the following philosophical jewel in message
news:<qllQa.78708$JA5.1...@news.xtra.co.nz>...
>
> The only thing this interview show's
[sic!]
>
>.... is that GLICK is a complete fuckwit.
>
> rag
And that's it! Thank you for calling, "rag". Hey! - have you
considered a career in the American media? They like people who don't
think too hard....
Brian Harmer
Breen) wrote:
>For some reason, Brian Harmer <brian....@paradise.net.nz> just
>loses it in message news:<9ae3hv883l3mcku77...@4ax.com>...
>
>>
>> Is this compulsion to transcribe entirely irrelevant rubbish some
>> internet manifestation of Tourette's syndrome?
>Irrelevant? I was responding to a post from Redbaiter, who had
>approvingly quoted the dunderhead O'Reilly. What - is there now some
>Made in New Zealand threshold for hyper-texting?
Have you ever wondered why this is called NZ.General rather than
everywhere.general or US.TV,General?
>> What on earth does it have to do with New Zealand?
>Rotten right wing "journalists" and "commentators", or just plain
>bewildered ones, are as much a feature of New Zealand media as they
>are of the U.S. media. Haven't you listened to NewstalkZB lately?
Good God, NO! Why would I do such a thing?
>> And wouldn't anyone
>> remotely interested in this crap have listened to it for him or herself?
>Only half of it was crap. One of the two people involved in that
>fraught exchange was extraordinarily lucid and courageous in the face
>of a brutal onslaught from an ignoramus. Go back and read it again.
>That is, assuming you even read it in the first place, of course.
I did and then wondered why I did, or why anyone would want to.
>> Or alternately, might you consider transcribing absolutely everything
>> on every channel and posting it solely in a group called
>> alt.transcriptions'r'us
>In case you haven't noticed - and it looks like you haven't - on the
>rare occasions I do transcribe anything from the TV or radio, it's
>usually to point out and expose some particularly odious example of
>sanctimonious, canting hypocrisy. So of course the sanctimonious,
>canting hypocrite Bill O'Reilly is always going to be a target. Other
>humbugs I've transcribed, or helped to transcribe, are Murray Deaker
>and Brian Edwards.
Why transcribe anything? You can surely point to the hypocrisy without
the whole freaking transcript?
--
Brian M. Harmer
Bruce Sinclair
>For some reason, Brian Harmer <brian....@paradise.net.nz> just
>loses it in message news:<9ae3hv883l3mcku77...@4ax.com>...
>
>>
>> Is this compulsion to transcribe entirely irrelevant rubbish some
>> internet manifestation of Tourette's syndrome?
>Irrelevant? I was responding to a post from Redbaiter,
There's your error. Apology accepted :)
Bruce
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Steve
> O'REILLY: All right. You didn't support the action against Afghanistan
> to remove the Taliban. You were against it, OK.
>
> GLICK: ... The people of the ruling class, the small minority.
>
> O'REILLY: Cut his mic. I'm not going to dress you down anymore, out of
> respect for your father.
>
> We will be back in a moment with more of THE FACTOR.
>
> GLICK: That means we're done?
>
> O'REILLY: We're done.
>
> The last few seconds of that exchange were really something to watch.
> I don't think I've ever seen a shouting head actually tell his guest
> to "Shut up! Shut up!" or to tell his producer to "cut his mic."
> posted by Tom Tomorrow at 02:43 PM | link
> 5 February 2003
> http://www.thismodernworld.com/weblog/mtarchives/week_2003_02_02.html
These people a fascist bullies.
This EXACTLY what Redbaiter and his mates are all about.....while they lie
and claim the opposite.
I call it integrity-free evil.
--
Steve
--
"Naturally, the common people don't want war;
neither in Russia nor in England nor in America,
nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders
of the country who determine the policy and
it is always a simple matter to drag the people
along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist
dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country."
- Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
Steve
You think so? Oh...sorry....wrong word. It's entirely inappropriate.
You have that opinion based on what? O'Reilly didn't let him say anything
and made it clear he wasn't interested.
Talk about bad faith interview. Is O'Reilly still on the air?
Steve
Brian.....I think it has everything to with the O'Reilly-like personae who
have infested and polluted this group with their profound intellectual
dishonesty.
Morrisey is highlighting that O'Reilly and Redbaiter and LAR and Berent,
etc.....are fellow-travellers....relying on the same abusive, dishonesty in
the course of debate.
As an illustration...it is entirely appropos.
Steve
>>
>> Is this compulsion to transcribe entirely irrelevant rubbish some
>> internet manifestation of Tourette's syndrome?
> Irrelevant? I was responding to a post from Redbaiter, who had
> approvingly quoted the dunderhead O'Reilly. What - is there now some
> Made in New Zealand threshold for hyper-texting?
I agree with you Morrisey.
If brian is REALLY annoyed with redbaiter, he should take it up with him -
for all the good it will do him.
Which is more or less the point of your post.
Steve
>
> Have you ever wondered why this is called NZ.General rather than
> everywhere.general or US.TV,General?
Posts of interest to New Zealanders.
Here, we can talk about almost anything from an NZ perspective not found in
any other newsgroup.
Steve
> I have no doubt at all that there are people who are legitimately
> interested in US chat shows and odd personalities. The question in my
> mind is "why this group as a vehicle for it?"
>
> Isn't there a group that discusses foreign TV programmes?
To discuss it from an NZ perspective - including the Redbaiter context - you
really do have to dicuss it here.
As always...people who don't wish to, don't have to. There many threads I
make no contribution to.
If you want to take anyone on for inappropriate posting, start with
Redbaiter and his Anne Coulter or David Horowitz cut/pastes.
Morrisey - in fact many people - REACT to that nonsense.....and have every
right to do so if they so choose.
That may be good or bad.....but that seems to be how it is these
days....with pysch out-patients like Red spending all day over their
keyboards.
Brian Harmer
>Brian Harmer allegedly said:
>
>>
>> Have you ever wondered why this is called NZ.General rather than
>> everywhere.general or US.TV,General?
>
>Posts of interest to New Zealanders.
>
>Here, we can talk about almost anything from an NZ perspective not found in
>any other newsgroup.
I am not sure your opinion counts Steve, since you are a notorious
cross-poster yourself :-)
Gib Bogle
> Brian Harmer allegedly said:
>
>
>>On 13 Jul 2003 11:39:52 -0700, morriss...@yahoo.com (Morrissey
>>Breen) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That blustering scoundrel Bill O'Reilly - our chum Redbaiter calls him
>>>a "fresh personality" - has been revealed, time and again, to be
>>>nothing more than a sanctimonious hypocrite on his own dismal Fox
>>>Television show. ....
>>>
>>>Here's the transcript in full....
>>>
>>
>>Is this compulsion to transcribe entirely irrelevant rubbish some
>>internet manifestation of Tourette's syndrome?
>>
>>What on earth does it have to do with New Zealand? And wouldn't anyone
>>remotely interested in this crap have listened to it for him or
>>herself?
>>
>>Or alternately, might you consider transcribing absolutely everything
>>on every channel and posting it solely in a group called
>>alt.transcriptions'r'us
>>
>
> Brian.....I think it has everything to with the O'Reilly-like personae who
> have infested and polluted this group with their profound intellectual
> dishonesty.
>
> Morrisey is highlighting that O'Reilly and Redbaiter and LAR and Berent,
> etc.....are fellow-travellers....relying on the same abusive, dishonesty in
> the course of debate.
What happened to Verus? Was he really a distinct person?
Gib
Jim Purdie
"rag" <r...@boots.balls.AK47> wrote in message
news:qllQa.78708$JA5.1...@news.xtra.co.nz...
If that is what you think, it betrays a level of prejudice and stupidity on
your part that goes well with the views you have propounded in the past.
Note the careful analysis of Glick's statements, and the carefully argued
refutation. But I suppose we must allow even the stupid to state their
opinions, even though they are completely unable to justify them.
Jim Purdie
Jim Purdie
"Redbaiter" <don't...@email.me> wrote in message
news:3f11...@news.orcon.net.nz...
> Brian Harmer says...
>
> Snip
>
> > And if it really was necessary to discuss it here, wouldn't it have
> > been sufficient to post the url so that those who were interested
> > could go there? I gave it a D.
> >
> >
> >
> important bore.
>
> Redbaiter
> the lowest of the low
Ah, well, Brian, you must be doing something right. You can't please
everyone, but it must be a comfort that those you seem to annoy are the most
obsessionably brainless among us.
Jim Purdie
Brian Harmer
<jimp...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
>"Redbaiter" <don't...@email.me> wrote in message
>news:3f11...@news.orcon.net.nz...
>> Brian Harmer says...
>> > And if it really was necessary to discuss it here, wouldn't it have
>> > been sufficient to post the url so that those who were interested
>> > could go there? I gave it a D.
>> Go away you anti freedom of expression self righteous self
>> important bore.
>
>Ah, well, Brian, you must be doing something right. You can't please
>everyone, but it must be a comfort that those you seem to annoy are the most
>obsessionably brainless among us.
I never see him, Jim, except as reflected in responses such as yours.
But I sure as heck don't need his permission to express my own
opinion, which this champion of free-speech wants to deny me.
--
Brian M. Harmer
Gib Bogle
Good to see that political satire isn't completely dead in the US of A.
Gib
Jim Purdie
> Jim Purdie says...
> Redbaiter killfiled. Well that's fine with me. I know well they
> are both of the same feeble totalitarian mindset wherein any
> perspective that challenges their own comfortable conception of
> how things should be is something they would rather not hear
> about.
>
> The issue worth remarking on (barely) is their constant need to
> issue this information. Redbaiter might have people in his
> killfile or he might not. People wouldn't know. I wouldn't want
> to make the fact public. To me, kill filing some one is one
> issue. Continuing to remark that the person has been kill filed
> is another thing.
>
> To me the actions of the boring self important Brian Harmer in
> continuously referring to this fact make him appear no better
> than a petulant child. Why would he need to do this, unless he
> was suffering from some need to do so?What is that need?I can't
> think of any reply to that question other than immature and
> innate spite.
>
> What do you reckon Jimmy? If anyone is capable of recognising
> such a personality trait/ defect it would be you.
>
> --
the lowest of the low
Red, you may be able to spend all day at work feeding your obsessions, and
using your boss's time to post your drivel to newsgroups. The rest of us
can't. When it actually comes to substantiating your claims, you are
notoriously wanting. Brian does NOT constantly issue the information that he
has kill-filed you. Only a brainlessly obsessional personality such as
yourself could claim that he does. I would kill-file you myself if it were
not that I so much enjoy rattling your cage, and hearing you gibber. Keep it
up, Red. And how's the court case?
Jim Purdie
Newsman
<bo...@too.much.spam.ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
>What happened to Verus? Was he really a distinct person?
>
Verus was bereft of all distinction. Gone and soon forgotten. The sign
of one who was bereft of al distinction.
Now, let's see who's first to rush in and defend Verus!
Sue Bilstein
> Jim Purdie says...
> > >
> >
> > When it actually comes to substantiating your claims, you are
> > notoriously wanting.
>
> > Brian does NOT constantly issue the information that he
> > has kill-filed you.
>
> such an idiot. Wish I had that ability. Your two claims above are
> both easily discredited as the words of a bigoted and silly old
> fool. Such a talent.
>
> A quick search on Google brings up the following. I reckon an in-
> depth search would find plenty more.
>
<snip evidence of Roddie's fascination>
>
And how is the court case going, Roddie?
Steve
> What happened to Verus? Was he really a distinct person?
>
> Gib
No idea....He's been in my kill file and I haven't seen any of his posts
reflected for weeks.
--
Steve
Laurie Fleming
Steve <st...@nospam4me.org> wrote:
Don't tempt fate - he might come back!
Brian Dooley
(Morrissey Breen) wrote:
snip---
>In case you haven't noticed - and it looks like you haven't - on the
>rare occasions I do transcribe anything from the TV or radio, it's
>usually to point out and expose some particularly odious example of
>sanctimonious, canting hypocrisy.
Isn't nz.politics the place for sanctimonious, canting hypocrisy?
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington New Zealand
Brian Harmer
I was intrigued enough to explore the evidence of my "constantly
issued information". I see Red had to go back to February 2002 to find
an example prior to this week.
--
Brian M. Harmer
Jim Purdie
"Brian Harmer" <brian....@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:r1o8hvs6rnhjlpbli...@4ax.com...
That of course is typical of Red, Brian. Everything he says is distorted by
his obsession, and when anyone questions him, he immediately descends into
personal abuse.
Jim Purdie
Jim Purdie
Brian Dooley
Evidently I haven't been paying attention (and who would blame
me), but what's this about a court case?
I'm all agog.
Sue Bilstein
news:eekchv05r8u9l68rv...@4ax.com...
IIRC Roddie was going to sue Phil Crookes for something - being a commie?
Squirrel
>Sue Bilstein says...
>You are such a shameless lowlife liar Bilstein.
and you are such a little clump of clammy cliches so what??
Squirrel
If homosexuality is a sickness, then I am going to start calling in queer to work.
Brian Dooley
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:43:33 +1200, "Sue Bilstein"
<sue_bi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Brian Dooley" <bri...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
>news:eekchv05r8u9l68rv...@4ax.com...
>>
>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:17:02 +1200, "Sue Bilstein"
>> <sue_bi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >And how is the court case going, Roddie?
>> >
>> Evidently I haven't been paying attention (and who would blame
>> me), but what's this about a court case?
>>
>> I'm all agog.
>>
>
>IIRC Roddie was going to sue Phil Crookes for something - being a commie?
>
Why, did he find him under the bed?
Philip Crookes
Redbaiter's bed. Perhaps that's where he's hidden all those weapons of mass
destruction from Iraq.
I'm still waiting for Master Baiter's formal complaint that he promised to
issue to my ISP. I guess he just ran out of steam.
Philip