An Atomic Bomb is about to drop into the Bobby Fischer Story
Sam Sloan
John Fernandez
Tom Klem
dohl!
Tom Klem
"If he ain't breakin' stories, he's breakin' ...." --- Sam Sloan's editor at
the New York Gayzette
"Sam Sloan" <sl...@ishipress.com> wrote in message
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The Dirty Vicar
The Dirty Vicar
And who's gonna drop it, Bin Laden?
bertolj
What are you talking about?
When will the general public hear about this "Atomic Bomb"?
How are you privy to this information?
etc. etc.
Bruce Draney
This is the finest writing I have ever seen you do. You should write
like this more often.
By the congratulations on helping the Patriots prove that the Bears are
the worst team in the NFL.
Best Regards,
Bruce
The Dirty Vicar
Sam Sloan
wrote:
>Alright...I'll bite...
>
>What are you talking about?
>
>When will the general public hear about this "Atomic Bomb"?
>
>How are you privy to this information?
>
>etc. etc.
I expect the story to hit the major news media within a week.
If it does not hit in a week, then I will drop the bomb.
Sam Sloan
StanB
> An Atomic Bomb is about to drop into the Bobby Fischer Story
He comes out of the closet?
StanB
The Dirty Vicar
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The story is that Booby and Scam are long-lost brothers, separated at birth
and put up for adoption by a mother who knew what sort of monsters they
would become.
The Dirty Vicar
Yeah sure, I'm waiting with bated breath.
What nonsense will you claim now, that Booby and Bin Laden are shacking up
together?
Mike Nolan
>Yeah sure, I'm waiting with bated breath.
For God's sake, get some tic tacs, man!
--
Mike Nolan
Bruce Draney
What the heck, we could save on explosives.
Best Regards,
Bruce
RSHaas
I'm guessing...
Bush wants him to head the IRS?
Geller has returned from the dead?
A giesha girl beat him at Go?
He gave bin Laden a kidney?
He's blown his share of Reshevsky's estate?
Tom Klem
that stop you Spam, you never did before?
Ah, but Bobby has a lot of friends (not including me) who might take you to
task. Is that it? You only take on innocent strangers with no political
clout, at the behest of your mentors.
I get it.
Tom Klem
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Sam Sloan
wrote:
OK. I will give you a few hints over the next few days.
Hint Number 1:
Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago on March 9, 1943.
The Atomic Bomb was developed in the Manhattan Project which was
located at the University of Chicago in 1943.
Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
Sam Sloan
NibblyNoo
> ==============
Bobby Fischer is one of the top secret nuclear powered babies. This
accounts for his brilliance, and his madness. Being a chess player was
an excellent cover to get him into countries that were politically
difficult to access. When the time was right, his button could be
pressed, and Boom! Off he goes. The problem is that he has now gone
rogue, his button has stopped working, and due to the 60 year failsafe
he will explode at an undetermined location in 2003.
NN.
Sam Sloan
wrote:
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were convicted of espionage for giving the
secrets of the Atomic Bomb to the Soviet Union and were executed on
June 19, 1953, at Sing Sing Prison, Ossining, New York.
But Boris Yeltsin has stated that the Rosenbergs gave the Soviet Union
nothing that they did not already know.
Is it possible, just barely possible, that there was somebody else who
could have given the Soviet Union information about the bomb?
Somebody, perhaps, who had worked on the mechanism which triggered the
bomb? Somebody perhaps who was even a known Communist and who had
lived in the Soviet Union and who was intimately familiar with the
development of the bomb.
But of course these thoughts are silly because there was no such
person, was there.
But if there was, just possibly was, such a person, would not that
person want to keep this relationship a secret to this very day?
Sam Sloan
bertolj
*sigh* I'll admit it, I like hearing Fischer rumors - but this one is a
disappointment thus far...
RSHaas
His father was said to have been a physicist but did he work in the Manhatten
project? Could either parent or both have been part of the information conduit
system?
NibblyNoo
Bobby Fischer is one of the top secret nuclear powered babies. This
accounts for his brilliance, and his madness. Being a chess player was
an excellent cover to get him into countries that were politically
difficult to access. When the time was right, his button could be
pressed, and Boom! Off he goes. The problem is that he has now gone
rogue, his button has stopped working, and due to the 60 year failsafe
he will explode at an undetermined location in 2003.
As further evidence for the Atomic Fischer weapon, you only have to
ask yourself why the 1992 Spassky rematch was held in Sarajevo. Just
trigger him to play a coded sequence of moves, and kerbang! Some of
his stranger move choices were done to avoid this happening
accidentally.
Some of the orignal names for the project were Bobby Fission and
Bombey Fischer , but these were thought to be too obvious, so the
names were combined. The James was added to make the anagram "A-Bomb,
Chess jibe, fry!", and this was then normalised to Robert James
Fischer. Propoganda agents began to filter further jibes into the
chess media such as "Bobby Fischer explodes onto the chess scene".
The book "Fire On Board" was actually published to jibe that Shirov is
infact another primed nuclear weapon.
NN.
Ed Seedhouse
wrote:
>The Atomic Bomb was developed in the Manhattan Project which was
>located at the University of Chicago in 1943.
>Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
>time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
Yes, actually, I think it was.
Ed Seedhouse
"I'm on my second cup of coffee
and I still can't face the day"
The Dirty Vicar
Hmmm.... Booby is born in Chicago in 1943. I wonder how many thousands of
other babies were born in Chicago in 1943?
You are the one who is booby. Go get a job and feed the kid.
The Dirty Vicar
I'm sure that this information is going to cause all major networks to drop
everything and provide continuous coverage of this crazy story...
NOT!
Chris L
Oppenheimer, his real father. Plus, both were brilliant, gloriously
creative, and ultimately completely destructive forces. Now to expose
Campomanes as one of the gunmen on the grassy knoll...
Drieux
I really do know better than to feed trolls in general, and this
particularly idiotic one specifically, but this error in fact is too
gross for me not to correct Spam Sh!thead this once.
sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) wrote in message news:<3dd233b8...@ca.news.verio.net>...
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:59:41 GMT, sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan)
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:07:30 -0500, bertolj <ber...@res.raytheon.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Alright...I'll bite...
{snip}
>
> OK. I will give you a few hints over the next few days.
>
> Hint Number 1:
>
> Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago on March 9, 1943.
>
> The Atomic Bomb was developed in the Manhattan Project which was
> located at the University of Chicago in 1943.
Look, assnozzle, the actual weapon *WAS NOT* developed at UChicago.
What was developed there was the first self-sustaining nuclear fission
pile.
Ever hear of Los Alamos? The 'Trinity' test site?
>
> Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
> time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
You really are one of the stupidest people that has ever wasted space
on the face of the planet, aren't you?
OK...simple human development/genetics lesson: The exposure needed to
alter the embryo that became RJF would have had to take place roughly
at the point in time of conception. Can you **PROVE** that it
happened in such a time frame? And that the dosage was **PRECISELY**
measured to ensure that this one, and only one, alteration was made?
And how was RJF's mother exposed? Can you **PROVE** that she had the
clearances/access required to get that dosage?
Hear that hollow echo?
Do the rest of the world a true favour, and perform a humaitarian act:
Go suck the exhaust pipe of your illegal hack until you're dead.
Then, at least, your posts will have some hope of being truthful.
Andrew
Harry Erwin
>
> Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago on March 9, 1943.
>
> The Atomic Bomb was developed in the Manhattan Project which was
> located at the University of Chicago in 1943.
>
> Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
> time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
>
> Sam Sloan
I take it you just learned about his mother. It's not a blockbuster.
--
Harry Erwin <http://www.theworld.com/~herwin/>
Robert Musicant
> >
> >The Atomic Bomb was developed in the Manhattan Project which was
> >located at the University of Chicago in 1943.
> >
> >Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
> >time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
Narrow it down, Sam. Controlled fission was achieved at U. of Chicago in
December, 1942. The reactor was dismantled in March, 1943. Think they were
worried about what Bobby would do if he got his hands on it?
Kevin D. Nyberg
> An Atomic Bomb is about to drop into the Bobby Fischer Story
I'm already tired of this thread.
If I knew that something like this were going to happen, I'd just sit
back and smile, content in the knowledge that the gasket would
eventually break.
I'd certainly not leak a non-leak, Sam.
kdn
Sam Sloan
Good point, but you have missed the main point.
Since Bobby was born in March 1943, that means that he was conceived
in June, 1942.
Get it now?
Sam Sloan
StanB
> Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
> time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
Yes.
StanB
StanB
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Yes. And as part of the deal they agreed to throw a chess match to the son.
StanB
Ken Blake
> Good point, but you have missed the main point.
>
> Since Bobby was born in March 1943, that means that he was
conceived
> in June, 1942.
>
> Get it now?
If you have something you want to say here, say it. If not,
don't. I doubt very much that anybody here appreciates your
playing this kind of game with them---I certainly don't.
--
Ken Blake
Please reply to the newsgroup
Tom Klem
Oh well, this is old news anyway. I've been hearing this story for years.
For a modern view of what Chess has spawned (as far as motherhood is
concerned), you might enjoy a cartoon depicting another Chess mommy.
http://www.lvcm.com/nvchess/ZugZwang/Winter96/page3.html
Tom Klem
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Bruce Draney
factual documentation behind them.
When the Soviet Union collapsed in the late 1980's, the Russian
government declassified documents relating to the Rosenberg case and
contrary to what Sam states, the KGB's papers compiled during the time
period made reference to the help they received from an American married
couple.
A couple months ago, I was able to hear an interview on the NPR program,
Fresh Air with Teri Gross, with Greenglass, the brother in law of Julius
Rosenberg. Strong evidence has emerged that Greenglass and Julius were
both involved in the selling of the atomic bomb secrets. In fact, most
evidence suggests that Ethel was innocent, and that Greenglass' wife was
probably in on the plan. To protect his own wife, the blame was cast on
Ethel rather than on Greenglass' wife.
None of this of course means diddly squat when it comes to Fischer.
Whatever claims Sam wishes to make about Bobby 07, superspy, most likely
it was Julius and his brother in law who were guilty of the crime.
Greenglass got away with it by turning state's evidence and implicating
Julius AND his own sister.
Best Regards,
Bruce
Yeh Right
> An Atomic Bomb is about to drop into the Bobby Fischer Story
If you're talking about the theory that Bobby's mother was a communist spy,
that has already been thoroughly discussed (and in a more mature fashion)
on the chess cafe website. The original thread was stated about 4
months ago, if I recall. You're "bomb" is as stale as your cab.
Bill Brock
I've always suspected that U of C graduate Sammy Reshevsky--who also
had foster family roots in the neighborhood and whose relentlessly
calculating noggin was doubtless borrowed by Fermi & Co.--was Bobby's
likeliest father.
True story (no shit, really), fall 1977. I'm sitting on a park bench
(no longer there) twelve feet over the Birthplace of Fission, between
the famous tennis courts & the Henry Moore sculpture "Nuclear
Energy"--and a good couple blocks distant from Fischer's Billings
birthplace--writing a letter. Security suits appear to secure the
area, then, five minutes later, who strolls up but PRINCE CHARLES!! I
do the cool thing, and ignore the Prince completely (but excitedly
scribble to my friend, "Here comes the Prince!).
So this gets me thinking in 2002--maybe Fischer's biological father is
Princess Diana's butler?
John Swartz
> I'm already tired of this thread.
>
I think the whole point of this thread is simply to assume that if
someone drops the name "Bobby Fischer" around here, it will spawn a
bunch of pointless discussion. Amazing that a nutcase who hasn't played
chess publicly in 10 years (and arguably has not played great chess
publicly in 30 years) can still attract this much attention. And we
wonder why people laugh at chessplayers...
John
mathpolymath
> An Atomic Bomb is about to drop into the Bobby Fischer Story
The following is from an article by Frank Dudley Berry, Jr. (a Deputy
District Attorney for Santa Clara County in charge of their Cybercrime
Unit). The original article seems to have vanished from the Internet
since it was first posted last year. For you conspiracy theorists,
note that Frank Berry's article cites a website which belongs to Sam
Sloan: http://www.anusha.com/pafg36.htm#2045
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a) The best collation of the basic facts description of Regina
Fischer's background can be found in Frank Brady's book Profile of a
Prodigy, first published in 1964 and revised after Fischer's victory
in the 1972 World Championship match. It is quite short and seems
almost deliberately elliptical - much of the basic data is not
expressly stated but has to be deduced from the text.
The brief mini-biography indicates that Regina Wender was born in St.
Louis in 1914. (Brady does not give the date of birth expressly, but
indicates that she was 31 when she divorced in 1945. In a note written
for the Sloan-Jacobsen family tree, which I retrieved with a Google
search [www.anusha.com/pafg36.htm#2045], she is described as a Red
Diaper baby, the child of radical parents at the turn of the century,
and her precise date of birth given as March 31, 1913.) At the age of
19, in1933, she enrolled in the First Moscow Medical Center and spent
five years working towards a medical degree. For reasons Brady does
not divulge, she did not complete her work toward her degree.
According to Brady, while "on holiday" she met a man named Gerard
Fischer in Austria and married him. The marriage lasted for seven
years, until 1945, during which Regina and presumably Gerard moved
back to the United States. She found a variety of menial jobs -
stenographer, typist, welder in Portland, Oregon. She ended up in Los
Angeles about the time the war ended (it is implied) and taught school
in Phoenix and Mobile. Details are vague; she was in Portland at some
unknown time and definitely in Chicago in March of 1943, since Robert
Fischer was born there. The brief biography concludes with a notation
that Regina was a registered nurse, and moved finally to Brooklyn to
get a master's degree in nursing. It was there that Robert Fischer' s
chess career began.
As sketchy as this is, I am surprised it did not raise more eyebrows
at the time. First, to state the obvious, very few U.S. citizens chose
Moscow as a place for higher education in 1933 - the United States did
not even recognize the Soviet Union until that year. This was not a
time of glasnost, perestroika, or even the NEP - these were the high
old days of the Comintern and the horrors of the Five Year Plans. Few,
if any, persons who were not hard-core committed Communists would have
chosen - or been permitted - to be educated in Moscow at that time.
She stayed for five years, during a time of famine and monstrous
misery in the Soviet Union. It is difficult to believe she was not an
extremely dedicated Communist at that time in her life.
But as sketchy as it is, it is also completely and deliberately
misleading, as the result of a willful omission of either Brady or
Regina Fischer. Joan Fischer Targ died prematurely in 1998, of a
cerebral hemorrhage. She was a woman esteemed and respected throughout
the Palo Alto community, as well-socialized as her famous brother is
not. The obituary published in the local newspaper, easily verified by
a Google search, revealed that she was 60 - that is, born in 1938 -
and that the city of her birth was Moscow.
In short, even if Brady is truthful about the holiday to Austria in
1938, Regina Wender did not take it as a single girl on a lark. She
took it as a young mother with a newborn. (Joan must have been born
before the trip, since Regina Wender apparently never returned to the
Soviet Union.) More. Unless Robert and Joan are half-siblings -
something that no one who has ever written has ever mentioned or
intimated - Regina had met Robert's father while she was in Moscow,
not later. Brady's account of a vacation meeting, courtship, and
marriage is thus a complete invention.
And still more. Although she was still quite young (under 25), Regina
did not choose to return home to her family and American medical
facilities to give birth. She must have been enormously committed to
the man, or the cause, or both, to remain in Moscow after she became
pregnant.
Brady is absolutely silent about Gerard Fischer. Although Regina was
associated him for at least eight years - from sometime in 1937 to the
divorce in 1945, Brady provides no information about his family,
background, origins, etc. But surely some data was available; except
for a cryptic reference to a short meeting between father and son in
Chile, Brady says nothing.
The account of Regina's activities after he supposed marriage is also
odd. Although she has funds enough to journey from Moscow to Austria
in 1938, she is suddenly so impoverished that she has to take a series
of menial jobs in the United States. Although she has substantial
medical training, and an interest in medicine that continued
throughout her entire life, she does not seek a position in medicine,
but instead these demeaning jobs. The welding job in Portland is
particularly puzzling. Although she has one and then two children
under 6, she does not return to St. Louis - in her biography and all
that of her son, there is not the slightest indication that any of
them have any communication whatsoever with any member of the extended
family. And when and where did Gerard depart? (He must have
accompanied her since Fischer was obviously conceived in the United
States.)
The upshot of all this is that the conventional account of Regina's
life contains at least one deliberate deception and raises all sorts
of obvious questions that Brady's narrative make no attempt to answer.
However, whatever the reasons for Regina Wender's journeys, it was not
disenchantment with the politics of the Communist Party. It is also
well-known that she remained committed to left wing causes through
most of her adult life. She finished her medical degree in 1966 in the
Freidrich Schiller University in East Germany, at a time when that
Communist Party was considerably more repressive than the Russian
version. As will be seen, the family's connection with the Soviet
Union persisted until the 1980's.
(b) One isolated factoid from an otherwise unrelated reminiscence of a
counterintelligence agent sheds extraordinary light on the identity of
Fischer's father. In January of 1988, a retired FBI agent named Robert
Lamphere published an account of his career in the 1940's entitled The
FBI-KGB WAR; A Special Agent's Account. The book recounts his
experiences with Fuchs, Herbert Gold, the Rosenbergs, and so forth. It
was reprinted in 1996 and his available from Amazon, and Barnes and
Noble. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Regina or Bobby Fischer -
I doubt that Lamphere has ever heard of either of them. I checked it
out of the in the late 80's library for no special reason, other than
that the marginal personalities who were involved in Soviet espionage
activity have always interested me.
Nonetheless, I sat bolt upright in my chair when Lamphere casually
mentioned that German Communist agents were accustomed to check into
hotels and drop points with the same coded surname on every occasion,
intended to identify them to other members of the organization as
field agents. This is the factoid.
The universal surname used throughout the organization was...
"Fischer".
The implications of this should be obvious. If the "facts" of Regina
Wender's biography are taken at face value, we are asked to believe
that she went to the Soviet Union in 1933 solely to pursue a medical
education, stayed five years but did not finish, abandoned medical
practice for completely unknown reasons between 1938 and 1950, resumed
medical practice in 1950, again for unknown reasons, completed her
medical training at an East German University not available to too
many non-Easterners - and by sheerest coincidence, met and married a
man who just happened to have a surname identical to common name used
by all agents of that same German Communist Party during the 1940's,
and about whom she provides not a particle of information. This is
simply a bit too mysterious, a bit too coincidental.
In the purely speculative department, Lamphere casually mentions that
the head of the German Communist espionage apparatus was named
Gerhardt Richter or Wachter.
(c) There is one last factoid to mention. In 1977 or 1978, a news item
in the local paper, the now defunct Palo Alto Times, reported that
Elizabeth Targ, the daughter of Russell and Joan, had been awarded a
scholarship to study in Leningrad. Elizabeth Targ was then a high
school student; the paper gave no reason why she should be singled out
for the scholarship, why she would want to study in the Soviet Union
(then mired in the stagnation of the Brezhnev era), or any additional
detail. Brady's book having been published four or five years earlier,
I was aware of some of the odd aspects of Regina Wender's history. The
scholarship struck me as thoroughly consistent with an ongoing
affiliation of her family with the Communist bloc.
(d) Simply to round out this article, it is interesting that both
Russell (Joan's husband and widower) and Elizabeth (her daughter) are
controversial in their own right. Russell Targ, the son of William
Targ the publisher was notoriously one of the SRI researchers gulled
by Uri Geller, and thoroughly ridiculed by the CSICOP - the Committee
for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (Martin
Gardner, James Randi, those folks). Elizabeth has become a
psychiatrist with an interest in unconventional, paranormal
treatments. NIH awarded her a substantial grant to study the power of
prayer on psychoses, which grant generated its own degree of
controversy.
(e) Of course, nothing definite can be proven from this collage of
facts, but I would lack moral courage if I did not record my own
speculations. Based on all Regina Wender said and - more importantly -
did not say about her past, it is my belief that she was an active
member of the German Communist underground during the 30's and 40's. I
think she met Bobby and Joan's father while she was in Moscow and that
he was another member of the organization. (I draw that conclusion
from the use of the name "Fischer" and the deliberate omission of any
other data.) I think she came West with her husband to Austria on
assignment. I think that the reason that she did not practice nursing
during the War is that she was involved in espionage. I think the
menial jobs, particularly the one as welder - what mother of young
children in her right mind would choose a shipyard job over her chosen
profession of nursing/medicine? - were an element of her Party
responsibilities. I think she finished her medical studies in East
Germany because the privileges of her Party membership gave her that
right. I think that Regina concealed the real identity of Bobby's
father because he was an extremely well-known Communist Party member.
To finish this theme on a note of complete, unbridled speculation, I
think his father may well have been Gerhard Wachter, the head of the
German Communist spy apparatus.
Most of these facts have been known to me for more than a decade. (A
few of them I picked up from Google while preparing this article.) I
withheld them because Joan Fischer Targ was a good, well-loved woman
who did not deserve any undue exploration of her private life.
Although I am not in sympathy with the beliefs in the paranormal of
Russell and Elizabeth Targ, my apologies in advance for any
inconvenience the publication of this note causes them.
But something important is at stake here. Bobby Fischer was one of my
childhood idols. The extraordinary beauty of his chess has delighted
millions. He is lost now, descended into the depths of an acute, very
obnoxious paranoia. It would be one of the supreme ironies in history
- not simply chess history - if Fischer, an anti-Soviet icon, were the
son of a committed Communist agent(s). His mental illness may have had
its roots in an upbringing in a genuinely paranoid environment. At the
very least, its roots may lie in the rootless, fatherless existence he
had to endure as a child as a direct result of his mother's commitment
to the Communist cause - a cause which history has consigned to the
waste basket of history. He deserves to have these facts brought to
light by way of explanation - for while there can be no excuse for the
public statements he has made, there can be understanding and even
sympathy - for him, if not for his illness.
Robert Musicant
Excellent point, Sam. Once again you are proven right in spite of the
skeptics. June was the month that General Leslie Groves started knocking
the scientists' heads and telling them to PICK A DESIGN AND BUILD THE THING.
Sam Sloan
of these trips was because I was writing an article for Playboy
Magazine about the Sexual Freedom League. Later, I became President of
the League. My main reason for becoming president was that otherwise
the League was going to fold before my article was published. The
article was published under the fake name of Jack Lind, because I did
not want my real name revealed. I have ever since regretted that I did
not have it published under my real name. Playboy thereafter published
a photo essay about one of my Sexual Freedom League girls. Her name
was Mara Suviks. Finally, after Playboy reduced my finder's fee for
finding Mara, I filed suit against Playboy and won. I had to go to
Chicago for the court case.
I participated in the Chicago Riots at the Democratic National
Convention in August 1968, so I went to Chicago to riot. In the course
of all these trips to Chicago, I discovered that Frank Brady, whom I
had known as the business manager of the United States Chess
Federation and who had defeated me with a Budapest Defense in the
third round of the 1960 US Open in St. Louis, was now working as an
editor for Playboy. Frank Brady invited me to stay as a guest in his
home during one or more of these visits to Chicago.
It was during these trips to Chicago that I learned that Gerhardt
Fischer was not the real father of Bobby Fischer and that there was
some deep, dark secret about Bobby's father which nobody who knew was
willing to reveal. Frank Brady was working on his biography of Bobby
Fischer and he had never been able to crack the secret of Bobby
Fischer's father.
In 1972, at the "Ball of the Century" in Reykjavik, Iceland, which was
held right after Bobby Fischer defeated Boris Spassky for the World
Chess Championship, I happened to be seated next to Joan Targ, the
sister of Bobby Fischer. She had flown in from England for the event.
I wanted to ask her who Bobby Fischer's father was, but I could not
get up the courage to ask. Joan died in 1998 so now I never will be
able to ask.
There have been a lot of strange and wild theories about who or what
Bobby Fischer's father was. For example, an article was published in
Chess Café recently suggesting that Bobby's father was a Soviet spy
sent to Nazi Germany to spy on the Nazis and that Fischer was a code
name used by all the Soviet spies to identify each other.
Rather than give credence to all these theories, perhaps we should
have paid attention to what Bobby himself said about his father. In a
1962 interview, Bobby said that his father had been a physicist. Bobby
was born in Chicago on March 9, 1943. What would a physicist be doing
in Chicago in 1942 and 1943?
I guess that none of us ever thought much about that. I should have
realized the answer years ago. Now, I know the answer. The rest of you
will find out the answer early next week.
Sam Sloan
At 09:10 AM 11/13/2002 EST, RDK...@aol.com wrote:
>i look forward to the revelation with interest-maybe it turns out that
>fischer is related to einstein!?
>
>ray keene
PatzerSamer
Amazing that a nutcase who hasn't played
chess publicly in 10 years (and arguably has not played great chess
publicly in 30 years) can still attract this much attention. And we
wonder why people laugh at chessplayers...
John
<end>
huh? sam sloan regularly plays games..he even posts some...his chess is better
than eve....ooh..you're talking about fischer eh? confusing ;-)
-samer
Sam Sloan
wrote:
>OK. I will give you a few hints over the next few days.
>
>Hint Number 1:
>
>Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago on March 9, 1943.
>
>The Atomic Bomb was developed in the Manhattan Project which was
>located at the University of Chicago in 1943.
>
>Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
>time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
>
>Sam Sloan
Since you guys are not very good at taking hints, I will have to try
another one:
Hint Number 2:
The nuclear reactor at the University of Chicago was dismantled in
March 1943. Thereafter, the Manhattan Project to develop the first
Atomic Bomb was moved to the White Sands Proving Grounds in New Mexico
and Arizona, for development, construction and testing of the bombs.
Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago in March 1943. Very shortly
thereafter, Bobby's mother, sister and the infant Bobby moved to
Arizona to a small town near to where the first Atom Bombs were being
developed and tested.
Bobby's mother had lived in Moscow and Chicago. Why would she move to
a small town in Arizona? For what reason? Was this a coincidence?
Sam Sloan
Ken Blake
> The nuclear reactor at the University of Chicago was dismantled
in
> March 1943. Thereafter, the Manhattan Project to develop the
first
> Atomic Bomb was moved to the White Sands Proving Grounds in New
Mexico
> and Arizona, for development, construction and testing of the
bombs.
Uh, you might want to look at a map, Sam. White Sands is not in
"New Mexico
and Arizona," it's just in New Mexico. And it's roughly half way
across the State from the Arizona border.
> Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago in March 1943. Very shortly
> thereafter, Bobby's mother, sister and the infant Bobby moved
to
> Arizona to a small town near to where the first Atom Bombs were
being
> developed and tested.
>
> Bobby's mother had lived in Moscow and Chicago. Why would she
move to
> a small town in Arizona? For what reason? Was this a
coincidence?
Beats me. If she had any interest in White Sands, I would assume
she'd move a lot closer to it than Arizona.
Sam Sloan
wrote:
>OK. I will give you a few hints over the next few days.
>
>Hint Number 1:
>
>Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago on March 9, 1943.
>
>The Atomic Bomb was developed in the Manhattan Project which was
>located at the University of Chicago in 1943.
>
>Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
>time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
>
>Sam Sloan
Since you guys are not very good at taking hints, I will have to try
another one:
Hint Number 2:
The nuclear reactor at the University of Chicago was dismantled in
March 1943. Thereafter, the Manhattan Project to develop the first
Atomic Bomb was moved to the White Sands Proving Grounds in New Mexico
and Arizona, for development, construction and testing of the bombs.
Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago in March 1943. Very shortly
thereafter, Bobby's mother, sister and the infant Bobby moved to
Arizona to a small town near to where the first Atom Bombs were being
developed and tested.
Bobby's mother had lived in Moscow and Chicago. Why would she move to
a small town in Arizona? For what reason? Was this a coincidence?
Sam Sloan
Louis Blair
Mobile "about 35 miles southwest of Phoenix".
It is indicated that they went there after the end
of World War II. Fischer's father's name is
given as Gerard (or Gerhardt) and he is described
as a "biophysicist" who separated from the family
"when Bobby was two".
Ken Blake
> According to Brady's book, the Fischers were in
> Mobile "about 35 miles southwest of Phoenix".
And that's around *300* miles from White Sands. It would be quite
a commute if Daddy worked at White Sands.
RSHaas
===================
The distance may not be overly daunting if a dead drop existed about half way
between and was visited only occasionally.
StanB
> The nuclear reactor at the University of Chicago was dismantled in
> March 1943. Thereafter, the Manhattan Project to develop the first
> Atomic Bomb was moved to the White Sands Proving Grounds in New Mexico
> and Arizona, for development, construction and testing of the bombs.
>
> Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago in March 1943. Very shortly
> thereafter, Bobby's mother, sister and the infant Bobby moved to
> Arizona to a small town near to where the first Atom Bombs were being
> developed and tested.
>
> Bobby's mother had lived in Moscow and Chicago. Why would she move to
> a small town in Arizona? For what reason? Was this a coincidence?
That's like saying she moved to Atlantic City to be closer to Pittsburgh. Is
Arizona a town in New Mexico?
StanB
Bill Brock
Perhaps Regina liked 'em big and hot--she chose Charizard!
http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/suslick/pokemon/charizard.jpg
Don't know what numbers to use for that one, however....
Bill Brock
whbpb&j...@aol.com
Dr. Hypermodern
I think this is a very interesting theory.
We should research it more deeply
I think it would be a splendid idea if you wrote an article in chess
life.
Anything about Bobby Fischer gets into Chess Life. So, it would be
poor journalism if they did not accept either controversial material
like this.
I just hope the Redman Gang is not in charge of Chess Life.
sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) wrote in message news:<3dd25246...@ca.news.verio.net>...
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:18:34 GMT, sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan)
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:59:41 GMT, sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:07:30 -0500, bertolj <ber...@res.raytheon.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>Alright...I'll bite...
> >>>
> >>>What are you talking about?
> >>>
> >>>When will the general public hear about this "Atomic Bomb"?
> >>>
> >>>How are you privy to this information?
> >>>
> >>>etc. etc.
> >>
> >>I expect the story to hit the major news media within a week.
> >>
> >>If it does not hit in a week, then I will drop the bomb.
> >>
> >>Sam Sloan
> >
> >OK. I will give you a few hints over the next few days.
> >
> >Hint Number 1:
> >
> >Bobby Fischer was born in Chicago on March 9, 1943.
> >
> >The Atomic Bomb was developed in the Manhattan Project which was
> >located at the University of Chicago in 1943.
> >
> >Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
> >time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
> >
> >Sam Sloan
> >
> Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were convicted of espionage for giving the
> secrets of the Atomic Bomb to the Soviet Union and were executed on
> June 19, 1953, at Sing Sing Prison, Ossining, New York.
>
> But Boris Yeltsin has stated that the Rosenbergs gave the Soviet Union
> nothing that they did not already know.
>
> Is it possible, just barely possible, that there was somebody else who
> could have given the Soviet Union information about the bomb?
> Somebody, perhaps, who had worked on the mechanism which triggered the
> bomb? Somebody perhaps who was even a known Communist and who had
> lived in the Soviet Union and who was intimately familiar with the
> development of the bomb.
>
> But of course these thoughts are silly because there was no such
> person, was there.
>
> But if there was, just possibly was, such a person, would not that
> person want to keep this relationship a secret to this very day?
>
> Sam Sloan
gh
sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) wrote:
> I visited Chicago several times in 1966-68. The reason for the first
> of these trips was because I was writing an article for Playboy
> Magazine about the Sexual Freedom League. Later, I became President of
> the League. My main reason for becoming president was that otherwise
> the League was going to fold before my article was published. The
> article was published under the fake name of Jack Lind, because I did
> not want my real name revealed. I have ever since regretted that I did
> not have it published under my real name. Playboy thereafter published
> a photo essay about one of my Sexual Freedom League girls. Her name
> was Mara Suviks. Finally, after Playboy reduced my finder's fee for
> finding Mara, I filed suit against Playboy and won. I had to go to
> Chicago for the court case.
Are the motion picture rights to your life story available, Sam?
G
gh
sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) wrote:
> Was it a coincidence that Bobby Fischer was born at the exact same
> time and place that the Atomic Bomb was first developed?
He may have also been accidentally exposed to The Bomb's gamma rays with
a tragic result analogous to Bruce Banner's experience. The Atomic
Bomb's gamma rays turned Bruce Banner into The Incredible Hulk.
The parallels are compelling. When human, both are consumate
rationalists; Bruce Banner being a scientific genius, Fischer a chess
genius. When aroused, Banner loses control and becomes the wrathfull,
egocentric, all powerfull, rampaging Hulk lashing out at "the puny
humans" all around him. When aroused, Fischer loses control and becomes
the wrathfull, egocentric, paranoid, rampaging Fischer lashing out at
"weakies" and a certain ethnic group he is fixated upon.
Can it be a coincidence that "Bobby Fischer" and "Bruce Banner" both
start and end with the same letters? I think Stan Lee may be Bobby
Fischer's real father.
G
Frank de Groot
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> Is Robert Oppenheimer Bobby's father?
>
Nah, the real story is RJF is working for al qaeda
Sam Sloan
The story I have been talking about all week, which identifies the
real father of Bobby Fischer, is published today in the Philadelphia
Inquirer.
The article is entitled "Files reveal how FBI hounded chess king".
"He was the ultimate cold warrior, humbling the mighty Soviet chess
establishment through his own genius and a pounding ambition to be the
greatest player in the world."
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/4535883.htm
(c) 2001 inquirer and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
The article identifies the real father of Bobby Fischer as Paul
Nemenyi, a Hungarian physicist who specialized in fluid mechanics, a
science applied to everything from blood flow to jet design, and a
college mathematics teacher. Nemenyi has been identified elsewhere as
a physicist who was in Chicago in 1942 working on the Manhattan
Project to develop the first nuclear bomb. He died in 1952.
Paul Nemenyi was a research scientist who worked on the development of
the Atomic Bomb in the Manhattan Project at the University of Chicago.
He worked on the mechanism which triggered the bomb. His work remains
classified and little is known about the work he did or about the
circumstances of his death.
I knew that this article was going to be published because the
Philadelphia Inquirer called me last week because they were Searching
for Bobby Fischer and also because my website has long correctly
stated that Hans Gerhardt Fischer was not the real father of Bobby
Fischer. http://www.samsloan.com/pafg77.htm#3955
I knew that Fischer would never speak to the press, but at least he
cannot say that efforts were not made to speak to him prior to
publication of the article. I tried to reach him because I was afraid
that if he could not be reached, the article would be killed.
The Philadelphia Inquirer is owned by Knight Ridder Publications,
which publishes 32 newspapers including the Miami Herald, the Detroit
Free Press and the San Jose Mercury News. This story may appear
eventually in all 32 newspapers.
Sam Sloan
http://www.samsloan.com/chess.htm
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:19:34 GMT, sl...@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan)
wrote:
> An Atomic Bomb is about to drop into the Bobby Fischer Story
Nick
To my understanding, your hint in the previous posts was about Fischer's
mother, not about Fischer's father.
Am I right?
--
Sincerely
Nick
http://home.primus.ca/~nickbeqo/
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ph...@nimbus.dmillard.com
in 1945 when bobby was 2... this much is correct. but the couple had
been apart for some time.