Stanford (was Ivy League Admissions)
Adam Bonin
> I am currently a sophomore at Williamsville South High School.
>I noticed that there are admissions officers that browse through the
>articles in this group and I hope that one finds this.
>
> I very much want to go to one of these schools: Harvard,
>Princeton, Columbia, Cornell, Stanford (although not part of the
>Ivy League), Yale, Brown, Dartmouth, or perhaps U.C. Berkeley.
Why do you want to go to Stanford? It's a junior university.
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U of C 2L | go eagles
Adam Bonin
Yeechang Lee <yl...@columbia.edu> wrote:
>Albert Yan <alber...@eng.sun.com> wrote:
>|Stanford is, in fact, not a "junior university" (I was not aware that
>|there are "junior universities". What are they?). It's one of the more
>|prestigious West Coast schools.
>
>Not only is Stanford a junior university, Massachusetts Institute of
>TECHnology and CalTECH are, sadly for its students, mere vocational
>schools.
As mere "Institutes" and not fully fledged universities, can they still
give accredited degrees?
That reminds me, Yeechang: I was trying to remember that eighth Ivy. Any help?
--
Adam Bonin |
U of C 2L | one good minute could last me the whole year
Yeechang Lee
|Stanford is, in fact, not a "junior university" (I was not aware that
|there are "junior universities". What are they?). It's one of the more
|prestigious West Coast schools.
Not only is Stanford a junior university, Massachusetts Institute of
TECHnology and CalTECH are, sadly for its students, mere vocational
schools.
Yeechang "YHBT. HAND." Lee
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> Adam Bonin |
> U of C 2L | go eagles
Are you confused by the fact that the full name of Stanford is the
Leland Stanford Junior University? "Junior" is part of "Leland Stanford
Junior" which is the name of the son of the founder of Stanford
University, Leland Stanford - railroad baron.
Stanford is, in fact, not a "junior university" (I was not aware that
there are "junior universities". What are they?). It's one of the more
prestigious West Coast schools.
Albert
Taryn Jolynn Upchurch
> In article <4cp5mr$d...@prometheus.localnet.com>, mark <Mark Weisenborn> wrote:
> > I am currently a sophomore at Williamsville South High School.
> >I noticed that there are admissions officers that browse through the
> >articles in this group and I hope that one finds this.
> >
> > I very much want to go to one of these schools: Harvard,
> >Princeton, Columbia, Cornell, Stanford (although not part of the
> >Ivy League), Yale, Brown, Dartmouth, or perhaps U.C. Berkeley.
>
> Why do you want to go to Stanford? It's a junior university.
>
> --
> Adam Bonin |
> U of C 2L | go eagles
>
>
Like HELL it is! I'm a sophomore here at STANFORD (thank you), and
junior it ain't. The only reason it says "Junior" in its name is because
the founder's name was Leland Stanford, Jr. I hate to get indignant like
that, but when people make little annoying comments like that...
Taryn
steven morgan friedman
: That reminds me, Yeechang: I was trying to remember that eighth Ivy. Any help?
perhaps you mean the university of pennsylvania? which one of you will be
the first to show off your wit and say, "don't you mean penn state?"? :)
as long as you're mocking stanford for being a "junior" university
because of the vestige of its founding in its name, you may (but
probably may not) want to mock penn, which has its origins in the "negro
school of the city of philadelphia" :)
still in the process of compiling/writing the history of my college house at
the university,
steve
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Yeechang Lee
|Not only is Stanford a junior university, Massachusetts Institute of
|TECHnology and CalTECH are, sadly for its students, mere vocational
|schools.
Adam Bonin <acb...@ellis.uchicago.edu> wrote:
|As mere "Institutes" and not fully fledged universities, can they still
|give accredited degrees?
Good question. Presumably, they would give the kind of degrees other
schools like Apex Tech, DeVry, ITT Tech, etc. would award.
|That reminds me, Yeechang: I was trying to remember that eighth
|Ivy. Any help?
Surely you mean "ninth" Ivy? And it's the College of William and Mary
in Lynchburg VA, of course.
Yeechang "YHBT. HAND. THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE." Lee
Taryn Jolynn Upchurch
first day of classes for winter quarter, and I had JUST gotten out of a
two hour boring-as-hell psych class). In the light of a new day, I see
the humor in the joke. Please accept my apologies! :)
Taryn
On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, steven morgan friedman wrote:
> Failing not to be unsuccessful in not being unclear, Taryn Jolynn Upchurch wrote:
>
> : Like HELL it is! I'm a sophomore here at STANFORD (thank you), and
> : junior it ain't. The only reason it says "Junior" in its name is because
> : the founder's name was Leland Stanford, Jr. I hate to get indignant like
> : that, but when people make little annoying comments like that...
>
> : Taryn
>
> methinks the original poster was attempting to be funny :)
ANTINORO, FRANK JOSEPH
>In article <4cp5mr$d...@prometheus.localnet.com>, mark <Mark Weisenborn> wrote:
>> I am currently a sophomore at Williamsville South High School.
>>I noticed that there are admissions officers that browse through the
>>articles in this group and I hope that one finds this.
>>
>> I very much want to go to one of these schools: Harvard,
>>Princeton, Columbia, Cornell, Stanford (although not part of the
>>Ivy League), Yale, Brown, Dartmouth, or perhaps U.C. Berkeley.
>
>Why do you want to go to Stanford? It's a junior university.
>
>--
>Adam Bonin |
>U of C 2L | go eagles
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Lee Rudolph
>On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Adam Bonin wrote:
>>
>> Why do you want to go to Stanford? It's a junior university.
>>
>Like HELL it is! I'm a sophomore here at STANFORD (thank you), and
>junior it ain't.
Sophomore it is?
>The only reason it says "Junior" in its name is because
>the founder's name was Leland Stanford, Jr.
Wasn't it really founded by his pal, O. Alto, the Brazilian
rail tycoon (I think his first name was Oswaldo)?
>I hate to get indignant like
>that, but when people make little annoying comments like that...
We feel your pain.
Lee Rudolph
Albert Yan
degrees, as well as Masters and doctoral degrees. I would refer you to
the prospectuses for each of these schools if you're still in doubt
about that.
For instance, my company (Sun Microsystems) is tied into what's called
the SITN network, in which employees can attend via teleconference
masters level courses that count towards a Masters degree in engineering
and/or management.
Ivy snobbery notwithstanding, Stanford, MIT and Caltech are among the
premier engineering schools in the country.
Albert
Adam Bonin
>Taryn Jolynn Upchurch <ta...@elaine12.Stanford.EDU> writes:
>
>>On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Adam Bonin wrote:
>>>
>>> Why do you want to go to Stanford? It's a junior university.
>>>
>>Like HELL it is! I'm a sophomore here at STANFORD (thank you), and
>>junior it ain't.
>
>Sophomore it is?
Isn't that spelled "sophmore"?
>>The only reason it says "Junior" in its name is because
>>the founder's name was Leland Stanford, Jr.
>
>Wasn't it really founded by his pal, O. Alto, the Brazilian
>rail tycoon (I think his first name was Oswaldo)?
I'm not sure of the spelling, but he was no pal o'mine.
BTW, Yeechang, William and Mary can't be in the Ivy League: it's a public
institution. That's why neither Penn State nor Cornell are in.
--
Adam Bonin |
Yeechang Lee
|BTW, Yeechang, William and Mary can't be in the Ivy League: it's a
|public institution. That's why neither Penn State nor Cornell are in.
Excellent point. You made a common mistake regarding W&M, however;
it, like UVa, are actually private schools.
Timothy Wu
: perhaps you mean the university of pennsylvania? which one of you will be
: the first to show off your wit and say, "don't you mean penn state?"? :)
A friend of mine at Penn actually told me there was a t-shirt going
around there that says, "We're NOT Penn State." :) True?
Yeechang Lee
|Pure bullshit. Standofrd,
Hey, I think we were talking about Stanford, not some Welsh school.
|MIT and Caltech all award well-regarded BS degrees, as well as
|Masters and doctoral degrees.
Yeah, but you're forgetting these Masters and doctoral degrees are
_Associate_ degrees, as in
M.A.A. (Masters in Associate Arts)
Ph. A. (Associates of Philosophy)
|For instance, my company (Sun Microsystems) is tied into what's
|called the SITN network, in which employees can attend via
|teleconference masters level courses that count towards a Masters
|degree in engineering and/or management.
Hmm, sounds like a high-tech version of the kind of courses Sally
Struthers hawks on daytime TV.
Yeechang " . . . TV/VCR Repair, Child Day Care, Gun Repair. Or get
your degree in Business Management or Accounting." Lee
Nabeel Robert Ibrahim
what do you expect from a school with a dancing tree as it's mascot) wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Adam Bonin wrote:
>>Why do you want to go to Stanford? It's a junior university.
>Like HELL it is! I'm a sophomore here at STANFORD (thank you), and
>junior it ain't. The only reason it says "Junior" in its name is because
>the founder's name was Leland Stanford, Jr. I hate to get indignant like
>that, but when people make little annoying comments like that...
I would just like to point out that people at Stanford are just a bit more
sensitive than everyone else in the world in every imaginable way...(oh,
it's only 60F outside, better get my hat, gloves, scarf, and winter coat).
nabeel
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>Yeechang Lee wrote:
>>
>> I wrote:
>> |Not only is Stanford a junior university, Massachusetts Institute of
>> |TECHnology and CalTECH are, sadly for its students, mere vocational
>> |schools.
>>
>> Adam Bonin <acb...@ellis.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>> |As mere "Institutes" and not fully fledged universities, can they still
>> |give accredited degrees?
>>
>> Good question. Presumably, they would give the kind of degrees other
>> schools like Apex Tech, DeVry, ITT Tech, etc. would award.
>>
>> |That reminds me, Yeechang: I was trying to remember that eighth
>> |Ivy. Any help?
>>
>> Surely you mean "ninth" Ivy? And it's the College of William and Mary
>> in Lynchburg VA, of course.
>>
>degrees, as well as Masters and doctoral degrees. I would refer you to
>the prospectuses for each of these schools if you're still in doubt
>about that.
>
>the SITN network, in which employees can attend via teleconference
>masters level courses that count towards a Masters degree in engineering
>and/or management.
>
>premier engineering schools in the country.
>
>Albert
Looks like Yeechang cought a big one. Wonder how Albert would look over the
mantlepiece.
Taryn Jolynn Upchurch
Perhaps you are right. Maybe us Stanford folks (and Californians,
since I am a native) are just a bit sensitive. At least about the
weather. Right now, I'd say that it's a cool 65 degrees outside; no
wind, just pure sunshine and clear skies. (it's winter, by the way)
And yes, I'm not accustomed to extreme weather climates (only a few
times in humidity and never in snow), but HEY! Life is good. Here on
the Farm (what we affectionately call the school), we're all very laid
back. Is the lifestyle the same at other schools? Just wondering...
By the way, I am curious about something: what are you all majoring
in? I'm double majoring in Psychology and Spanish Literature...
Hope you have a good day!
Taryn
CLA3...@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk
>the more popular t-shirts on campus, actually. this confusion is actually
>a big problem; for example, i just saw a post in soc.culture.german in
>which someone from germany credits the invention of eniac, the first
>computer, to penn state (it was actually upenn).
>
>although -- i do prefer these t-shirts to the ones which say "fuck maple".
>maple is a mathematical computer program which everyone has to use in
>freshman calculus.
>
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Sorry to be a pedant, but wasn't the first 'computer' Babbage's mechanical
engine, in the 19th century or thereabouts? He was English, you know.
Simon B
University of Birmingham <-- Part of the Russell group of
England Universities, our equivalent
to the Ivy league
Dan Peltier
> Sorry to be a pedant, but wasn't the first 'computer' Babbage's mechanical
> engine, in the 19th century or thereabouts? He was English, you know.
Babbage's analytical engine might have counted as the first computer, but
it had the drawback of never being built.
I'm afraid we have to give the kiddies over at Penn credit where credit is
due. Even Penn has to have its 15 minutes.
Dan
David Goodwin
Adam Bonin <acb...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>In article <4d1ilq$c...@panix.com>, Lee Rudolph <lrud...@panix.com> wrote:
>>Sophomore it is?
>
>Isn't that spelled "sophmore"?
Nope.. Sophomore is the correct spelling.
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Yeechang Lee
|> BTW, Yeechang, William and Mary can't be in the Ivy League: it's a public
|> institution. That's why neither Penn State nor Cornell are in.
|
Nope. Duke is, though.
Yeechang "So's UChicago-y'know, the school that went to the Cotton
Bowl this year" Lee
Camille Chatterjee
> >Sophomore it is?
>
> Isn't that spelled "sophmore"?
uh, no.
> BTW, Yeechang, William and Mary can't be in the Ivy League: it's a public
> institution. That's why neither Penn State nor Cornell are in.
actually, cornell IS in the ivy league.
> --
> Adam Bonin |
> U of C 2L | one good minute could last me the whole year
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Pratip K Banerji
Adam Bonin <acb...@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>In article <4d1ilq$c...@panix.com>, Lee Rudolph <lrud...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>
Actually, it IS sophomore.
Pratip Banerji
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Cheryl Lynn Witt
you're trying to claim that W&M is worthy of the Ivy League (hah!), you
should at least get your facts straight. It's in Williamsburg, VA.
Wei Chen
> Camille Chatterjee <cc...@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
> |> BTW, Yeechang, William and Mary can't be in the Ivy League: it's a public
> |> institution. That's why neither Penn State nor Cornell are in.
> |
> |actually, cornell IS in the ivy league.
>
> Nope. Duke is, though.
When was THIS? Why WASN'T I told of this? ;) Haven't we had
this whole discussion in this newsgroup before?
BTW-Duke is not ivy and Cornell is.
Wei Chen
> Excellent point. You made a common mistake regarding W&M, however;
> it, like UVa, are actually private schools.
UVa is a private school? So, are you calling the people at US
News and World Report liars then?
Dan Peltier
(Shubu Mukherjee) wrote:
> Actually, Babbage did build a prototype of his first machine. Babbage
> had designed two machines -- the difference engine and the analytical
> engine. He built the prototype of the difference engine. The
> analytical engine was never built.
True. And the difference engine was not anything we would call a computer.
Therefore, Babbage did not build the first computer. QED
BTW, Wei Chen will be happy to know that Duke is not actually in the Ivy
League. They were asked to become the eigth member in 1972, but refused to
upgrade their athletic facilities to the Ivy's standards. The bid was
instead given to Radcliffe, who agreed to join on the condition that
Hahvahd got to come along.
Dan
Kristen Senker
>
>Camille Chatterjee <cc...@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>|> BTW, Yeechang, William and Mary can't be in the Ivy League: it's a public
>|> institution. That's why neither Penn State nor Cornell are in.
>|
>|actually, cornell IS in the ivy league.
>
>Nope. Duke is, though.
>
>
school, you would at least know the other schools in the League. I would
also think that Camille Chatterjee would know it if her school (Duke
University) was a member of the Ivy League. BTW, who really cares?
--Kristen, a student at the University of Scranton (NOT an Ivy League
school)
--also: what exactly is wrong with a state school? All that title means
is that residents of the state pay cheaper tuition. (BTW, Scranton is not
a state school either).
Dan Peltier
> DP> True. And the difference engine was not anything we would call a computer.
>
> That's not quite true. The difference engine doesn't resemble today's
> von Neumann (stored-program) computers (like your desktop PC). It was
> still a very limited form of a 6-digit calculator.
I do not know of anyone who refers to modern four-function electronic
"calculators", let alone mechanical adding machines, as "computers". Many
different kinds of digital arithmetic machines (digital as opposed to,
say, slide rules) were invented before the difference engine, and they
were not computers either.
> You are right about Babbage not building the first computer. As far
> as evidence goes, the first computer was built in 1623 by Wilhelm
> Schickard (supposedly a friend of astronomer Kepler) in Tuebingen,
> Germany. It was a 6-digit machine that could add and subtract.
I think your definition of "computer" here is pretty far outside of the
vernacular. There's no reason a computer must be built on the von Neumann
model, but it does have to be programmable in some sense. I don't know
exactly where the line is to be drawn; perhaps we could say that some sort
control flow (e.g., branching) is necessary, whereas the Difference
Engine, the Schickard machine, Pascal's adding machine, etc., could, if I
remember correctly, only perform given arithmetical instructions.
Dan
Happy!
distinction and just happens to house some of the best universitites in
the world.
On 13 Jan 1996, Camille Chatterjee wrote:
> In article <DKzxL...@midway.uchicago.edu>, acb...@midway.uchicago.edu wrote:
>
>
> > >Sophomore it is?
> >
> > Isn't that spelled "sophmore"?
>
> uh, no.
>
>
> > BTW, Yeechang, William and Mary can't be in the Ivy League: it's a public
> > institution. That's why neither Penn State nor Cornell are in.
>
> actually, cornell IS in the ivy league.
>
Shubu Mukherjee
>>>>> In article <dpeltier-130...@dpeltier.student.princeton.edu>, dpel...@princeton.edu (Dan Peltier) writes:
DP> In article <SHUBU.96J...@providence.cs.wisc.edu>, sh...@cs.wisc.edu
DP> (Shubu Mukherjee) wrote:
>> Actually, Babbage did build a prototype of his first machine. Babbage
>> had designed two machines -- the difference engine and the analytical
>> engine. He built the prototype of the difference engine. The
>> analytical engine was never built.
DP> True. And the difference engine was not anything we would call a computer.
That's not quite true. The difference engine doesn't resemble today's
von Neumann (stored-program) computers (like your desktop PC). It was
still a very limited form of a 6-digit calculator.
Other experimental computers have been built that do not follow the
von Neumann model. Example - the dataflow machines from MIT. Recent
research shows two new directions in future, namely, DNA computers and
Quantum computers (like quantum physics), which do not follow the von
Neumann model of computation.
DP> Therefore, Babbage did not build the first computer. QED
You are right about Babbage not building the first computer. As far
as evidence goes, the first computer was built in 1623 by Wilhelm
Schickard (supposedly a friend of astronomer Kepler) in Tuebingen,
Germany. It was a 6-digit machine that could add and subtract.
In 1941 Konard Zuse of Berlin built the first operational
"program-controlled computer" (program in read-only memory) called Z3.
ENIAC was also a program-controlled computer.
In 1945-46, John von Neumann and the ENIAC team (Mauchly and Eckert)
at UPenn designed the first "stored-program computer" (program in
read-write memory) called EDVAC. It was completed in 1952.
In 1948 a different Eckert of IBM built a partially stored-program
computer called SSEC, which IBM considers the first computer.
-Shubu
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Yeechang Lee
|BTW, Wei Chen will be happy to know that Duke is not actually in the Ivy
|League. They were asked to become the eigth member in 1972, but refused to
|upgrade their athletic facilities to the Ivy's standards. The bid was
|instead given to Radcliffe, who agreed to join on the condition that
|Hahvahd got to come along.
Exactly right, except you misspelled "tenth." HTH!
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Taryn Jolynn Upchurch <ta...@elaine37.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>
>Perhaps you are right. Maybe us Stanford folks (and Californians,
>since I am a native) are just a bit sensitive. At least about the
>weather. Right now, I'd say that it's a cool 65 degrees outside; no
>wind, just pure sunshine and clear skies. (it's winter, by the way)
>And yes, I'm not accustomed to extreme weather climates (only a few
>times in humidity and never in snow), but HEY! Life is good. Here on
>the Farm (what we affectionately call the school), we're all very laid
>back. Is the lifestyle the same at other schools? Just wondering...
>
>By the way, I am curious about something: what are you all majoring
>in? I'm double majoring in Psychology and Spanish Literature...
>
>Hope you have a good day!
>
>Taryn
Well up here in Canada we just had a cold-snap that went to about -20
celsius when you take into account wind chill. Now it is a "warm" -7.
Given the cold weather, I take it that you can understand that we tend to
be a bit on the edge during the winter. Summer can be really hot up here
believe it or not.....so we become laidback during this period of time. ;-)
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>>>>> In article <dpeltier-120...@dpeltier.student.princeton.edu>, dpel...@princeton.edu (Dan Peltier) writes:
DP> In article <960012...@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>, CLA3...@IBM3090.BHAM.AC.UK wrote:
>> Sorry to be a pedant, but wasn't the first 'computer' Babbage's mechanical
>> engine, in the 19th century or thereabouts? He was English, you know.
DP> Babbage's analytical engine might have counted as the first computer, but
DP> it had the drawback of never being built.
Actually, Babbage did build a prototype of his first machine. Babbage
had designed two machines -- the difference engine and the analytical
engine. He built the prototype of the difference engine. The
analytical engine was never built.
DP> I'm afraid we have to give the kiddies over at Penn credit where credit is
DP> due. Even Penn has to have its 15 minutes.
Iowa State and Harvard University had built two computers before
ENIAC. In 1942 Atanasoff and Berry from Iowa State University built a
computer called ABC (Atanasoff-Berry Computer). In 1943 Howard Aiken
and his team at Harvard completed ASCC Mark I (Automatic
Sequence-Controlled Calculator Mark I). In 1945 Mauchly and Eckert
from U. Penn completed ENIAC.
-Shubu
PS: As far as English and computers go:
Several fundamental concepts in modern computer design are derived
from a computer called Atlas built by the University of Manchester
in the 60s.
RICHARD W. GABRIEL
>>
>>Camille Chatterjee <cc...@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>>|> BTW, Yeechang, William and Mary can't be in the Ivy League: it's a public
>>|> institution. That's why neither Penn State nor Cornell are in.
>>|
>>|actually, cornell IS in the ivy league.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --also: what exactly is wrong with a state school? All that title means
> is that residents of the state pay cheaper tuition. (BTW, Scranton is not
> a state school either).
I hope you are being sarcastic. The concern with ivy league, and the
ragging on state Univs, all has to do with that proud middle class
tradition of status symbols.
>
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> In article <4d1ilq$c...@panix.com>, Lee Rudolph <lrud...@panix.com> wrote:
> >Taryn Jolynn Upchurch <ta...@elaine12.Stanford.EDU> writes:
> >
> >>On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Adam Bonin wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Why do you want to go to Stanford? It's a junior university.
> >>>
> >>Like HELL it is! I'm a sophomore here at STANFORD (thank you), and
> >>junior it ain't.
> >
> >Sophomore it is?
> Isn't that spelled "sophmore"?
It most certainly is not. Put that dictionary on the shelf there to
some use, pal.
Joe ":)" Thompson
Roxe Joseph L.
Wei Chen <ww...@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>On 13 Jan 1996, Yeechang Lee wrote:
>
>> Camille Chatterjee <cc...@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:
>> |> BTW, Yeechang, William and Mary can't be in the Ivy League: it's a public
>> |> institution. That's why neither Penn State nor Cornell are in.
>> |
>> |actually, cornell IS in the ivy league.
>>
>> Nope. Duke is, though.
>this whole discussion in this newsgroup before?
>
>BTW-Duke is not ivy and Cornell is.
Okay folks. Before we make this one any more obtuse, the Ivy League Schools
are (in no particular order):
Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Cornell
Columbia
Penn
Brown
Dartmouth
William and Mary isn't. Duke isn't. However, since the Ivy League is
mainly an athletic conference at this point, it doesn't matter very much.
Keep Smiling--
j-
(Who can't figure out why he's following this thread.:-)
Shubu Mukherjee
>>>>> In article <dpeltier-140...@dpeltier.student.princeton.edu>, dpel...@princeton.edu (Dan Peltier) writes:
>> You are right about Babbage not building the first computer. As far
>> as evidence goes, the first computer was built in 1623 by Wilhelm
>> Schickard (supposedly a friend of astronomer Kepler) in Tuebingen,
>> Germany. It was a 6-digit machine that could add and subtract.
DP> I think your definition of "computer" here is pretty far outside of the
DP> vernacular. There's no reason a computer must be built on the von Neumann
DP> model, but it does have to be programmable in some sense. I don't know
DP> exactly where the line is to be drawn; perhaps we could say that some sort
DP> control flow (e.g., branching) is necessary, whereas the Difference
DP> Engine, the Schickard machine, Pascal's adding machine, etc., could, if I
DP> remember correctly, only perform given arithmetical instructions.
This is a matter of opinion. But even going with your definition of a
computer, UPenn didn't build the first computer. It was built in 1942
by Atanasoff and Berry at Iowa State college. It was called ABC. Note
that Zuse's Z3 machine that predates ABC didn't have a conditional
branch instruction, so it doesn't qualify as a computer in your
definition.
Today we can't think of a computer without a branch instruction. A
century later probably people won't be able to think of a computer
without multimedia, digital cameras, voice input, and CD drives. What
will be the first computer then? :-)
-Shubu
Drachene
: |actually, cornell IS in the ivy league.
: Nope. Duke is, though.
: Bowl this year" Lee
Are we *REALLY* going to go into this whole "Who is in the Ivy league and
who isn't and why" thing again?
-Karin Roggenbeck
International Communications
Grand Valley State University (which is *NOT* in the Ivy League)
rogg...@river.it.gvsu.edu
http://www2.gvsu.edu/~roggenbk
Robert I. Eachus
> That's not quite true. The difference engine doesn't resemble
> today's von Neumann (stored-program) computers (like your desktop
> PC). It was still a very limited form of a 6-digit calculator.
Actually, as it's name implies, it was designed to compute functions
such as trig functions and logrithm tables by means of finite differences.
> In 1945-46, John von Neumann and the ENIAC team (Mauchly and Eckert)
> at UPenn designed the first "stored-program computer" (program in
> read-write memory) called EDVAC. It was completed in 1952.
Uh, Johnny von never worked at Penn, he was at the Institute for
Advanced Study in Princeton, NJ. Also, as far as I know he had
nothing to do with the implementation of the EDVAC--the JOHNNIAC at
the IAS was his baby. The problem was that JvN wrote a wonderful
report based on his visit to the (still classified Secret) ENIAC, and
this report was where most people learned of the stored program
concept.
Second, the ENIAC was the first stored program computer, but it was
not originally designed that way! Programming was intended to be done
with plug boards, constants entered with rotary ten position switches,
and registers consisted of duplexed ring counters using 20 6SJ7 vacuum
tubes. But all of these were arranged on moveable racks, and there
were spares to allow quick reprogramming (and all used essentially the
same interface). Once it became obvious that they were spending more
time reprogramming the computer than operating it, the Army switch
things around by first wiring the plug boards to read instructions
from the rotary switches, and then to allow instructions to be stored
in registers.
If you are sophisticated in such things, you can tell from an ENIAC
photo whether is was at the Moore School at the University of
Pennsylvania or at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, and when it was taken, by
studying the plugboard wiring.
> In 1948 a different Eckert of IBM built a partially stored-program
> computer called SSEC, which IBM considers the first computer.
Huh? Pres Eckert and John Mauchley built four pioneering computers:
ENIAC, EDVAC, BINAC (sp?) which was a binary computer, duplexed and
intended to fly in aircraft, and UNIVAC. At that point Eckart
Mauchley Computer Corporation was sold to Remmington Rand--the
successor corporation is now Unisys. I could try to put dates on some
of these but the January 1946 acceptance tests on ENIAC and the 1952
election predictions using the Univac bracket things nicely. IBM and
Harvard cooperated on a series of relay based machines with a (what
else) Harvard architecture. The Mark I is the most famous of these.
You can also throw in the ABC (Atchenson(sp?)-Berry Computer),
Colossus at Bletchley Park and Conrad Zuse in Germany. But in reality
all modern computers are direct descendents of ENIAC.
--
Robert I. Eachus
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Aziza710
Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Cornell
Dartmouth
University of Pennsylvania
Brown
Columbia (N.Y.)
And tha-tha-tha that's all folks. (And yes, Stanford, Northwestern,
Williams, Amherst, Colgate are not Ivy!)
Louise Ritchie
Steve C
yl...@manila.cc.columbia.edu (Yeechang Lee) wrote:
>Dan Peltier <dpel...@princeton.edu> wrote:
>|BTW, Wei Chen will be happy to know that Duke is not actually in the Ivy
>|League. They were asked to become the eigth member in 1972, but refused to
>|upgrade their athletic facilities to the Ivy's standards. The bid was
>|instead given to Radcliffe, who agreed to join on the condition that
>|Hahvahd got to come along.
>
>Exactly right, except you misspelled "tenth." HTH!
Are you all trolls? The Ivy league is:
Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, UPenn, Princeton, Yale.
It has been since it started in the mid-fities, and it has always been these 8
schools. No one has been asked to join, and no one has dropped out since.
car...@ptag2.pt.cyanamid.com
I've heard from people who attended Rutgers (now the state University of
New Jersey) that it was once an ivy league school.
Sandra
steven morgan friedman
: I've heard from people who attended Rutgers (now the state University of
: New Jersey) that it was once an ivy league school.
No, although for many years after its founding, the University we now
know as Princeton was called "the College of New Jersey". Perhaps they
are confusing the two.
Steven, who is now researching the foundings of American Universities
______________________
steven morgan friedman
http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~smfriedm
Mean People Suck
Yeechang Lee
|I've heard from people who attended Rutgers (now the state University of
|New Jersey) that it was once an ivy league school.
Yep, but it had to drop out because it became a public school. That's
why the League is down to six schools (same situation with Cornell and
Penn State).
Yeechang, who has never turned down a straight line in his life
Dan Peltier
>
> Princeton is the only university situated and celebrated in New Jersey.
You mispelled "saturated"...
Dan
Kristen
even funny anymore. In fact, I'm not sure it was even that funny to
begin with. I dunno, maybe it's an "Ivy League thing" that I'm not
fortunate (or unfortunate) enough to understand. To "normal", "regular"
college students like myself, it looks extremely stupid and boring.
Let's move on to some more interesting topics, OK?
--Kristen
Lee Rudolph
>Failing not to be unsuccessful in not being unclear, car...@ptag2.pt.cyanamid.com wrote:
>
>: I've heard from people who attended Rutgers (now the state University of
>: New Jersey) that it was once an ivy league school.
>
>No, although for many years after its founding, the University we now
>know as Princeton was called "the College of New Jersey". Perhaps they
>are confusing the two.
Princeton is the only university situated and celebrated in New Jersey.
Lee Rudolph
Stacy Lynn Gery
>In article <4dln3l$c...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, aziz...@aol.com (Aziza710) writes:
>> Sigh...Here (again) is a list of Ivy League schools:
>>
>> Harvard
>> Princeton
>> Yale
>> Cornell
>> Dartmouth
>> University of Pennsylvania
>> Brown
>> Columbia (N.Y.)
>>
Ok, Fuckers. Let`s get this straight. No matter what school you
go to, and yes, even you fucking ivy leaguers with your grey poupon, all
of you want to come to med school here, at The Johns Hopkins University. So
EAT SHIT, ASSHOLES.
P.S. Hah-vahd Med Sucks.
Thank you for your time. Stacy Gery.
Mike Puterbaugh
>why the League is down to six schools (same situation with Cornell and
>Penn State).
You intended this to be funny, right? Typical Columbia "humor."
>Yeechang, who has never turned down a straight line in his life
It sounds like you may have an addiction to the cocaine, then.
---
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Timothy Wu
: : I've heard from people who attended Rutgers (now the state University of
: : New Jersey) that it was once an ivy league school.
: No, although for many years after its founding, the University we now
: know as Princeton was called "the College of New Jersey". Perhaps they
: are confusing the two.
Actually, the original poster was right. Rutgers University (now the
State University of New Jersey) was an Ivy League institution until it
left around the 1950s. The College of New Jersey, today's Princeton, was
also part of the Ivy League at the same time as Rutgers.
: Steven, who is now researching the foundings of American Universities
You're doing a pretty bad job of it.
--
Timothy Wu
EMAIL: <tqw...@IS2.NYU.EDU>
New York University, College of Arts and Science
B.A. Candidate, Department of Chemistry, Class of 1999
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John H. Roberts
>> Sigh...Here (again) is a list of Ivy League schools:
>> University of Pennsylvania
As the man said, "If you're going to let U Penn in, you might as
well admit Penn State."
Don't flame me, I didn't make it up.
-Amy
Gabriela Espinoza
> Ok, Fuckers. Let`s get this straight. No matter what school you
>go to, and yes, even you fucking ivy leaguers with your grey poupon, all
>of you want to come to med school here, at The Johns Hopkins University. So
>EAT SHIT, ASSHOLES.
> P.S. Hah-vahd Med Sucks.
> Thank you for your time. Stacy Gery.
Interesting how Harvard Med has been ranked number one for so long, while
Johns Hopkins University is second or so. Maybe I haven't been reading
this newsgroup long enough, but I have never read a negative post about
J.H. University. You, however, do give me a negative impression about
people at Johns Hopkins.
my 2 cents...
Gabriela
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James M. Pace
that my Ivy-league ears have ever heard such profanity.
Seth M. Kelly
would want to go to med school at Hopkins. But it seems as though you
just provided those same people with a reason not to: your presence.
steven morgan friedman
: steven morgan friedman (smfr...@mail1.sas.upenn.edu) wrote:
: : : I've heard from people who attended Rutgers (now the state University of
: : : New Jersey) that it was once an ivy league school.
: : No, although for many years after its founding, the University we now
: : know as Princeton was called "the College of New Jersey". Perhaps they
: : are confusing the two.
: Actually, the original poster was right. Rutgers University (now the
: State University of New Jersey) was an Ivy League institution until it
: left around the 1950s. The College of New Jersey, today's Princeton, was
: also part of the Ivy League at the same time as Rutgers.
: : Steven, who is now researching the foundings of American Universities
: You're doing a pretty bad job of it.
No, Timothy. Unlike you, I make no pretension to being funny. Your humor
reminds me of a bad Mel Brooks film; you make one joke which is almost
funny, then repeat it ad nauseum so it loses any effect other than
making you look like a schmuck.
Steven
mort...@ufcp.com
Personally, I avoid them like plague.
But then, I've had enough of uptight, conceited private schools that
are way over-priced and don't care about the students.
And I've had enough of the silly hierarchical system that seems to
think Ivy League means perfect, or somehow superior.
The only people I've ever known who really cared if you went to an Ivy
League school were lawyers. And who really wants to impress lawyers?
(by the way, going to an Ivy League for undergrad work is NOT going to
help, because you'll still need a doctorate to feel "perfect.")
mortaine.
(yes, this is sort of flame-bait, but I agree with the person who
posted that this is a silly and useless thread.)
Engel, Donald R.
>
>
>Dan
located in.
Dan Peltier
Donald R.) wrote:
Situated is right, celebrated is... well, not exactly _wrong_, but
misleading. I suppose it depends on which version you like- the written
version or the sung version.
Oh hell, I'm sure L.R. knows what I'm talking about.
Ask any Tiger, Yalie, or Hahvahd man who's been to a Princeton Football Concert.
Not a stuck-up Ivy League elitist snob (but I play one on TV!),
Dan
EDS
> Ok, Fuckers. Let`s get this straight. No matter what school you
> go to, and yes, even you fucking ivy leaguers with your grey poupon, all
> of you want to come to med school here, at The Johns Hopkins University. So
> EAT SHIT, ASSHOLES.
> P.S. Hah-vahd Med Sucks.
> Thank you for your time. Stacy Gery.
why... why.... you're so right!
i'm so sorry!
let me repent immediately!
all of us here are just pining away! we feel so... so... forlorn!
i can no longer bear not to be at a school
where people speak as Stacy Gery does.
please pardon me, i am weeping uncontrollably on my keyboard.
i just hope that i can see through my tears,
to put in my transfer application immediately.
--
EDS
Stacy Lynn Gery
Recently there have been replies to posts of which I have had no
knowledge upon this newsgroup. I have not been the one posting these
articles, and have taken action to change my password to make sure that
whoever made these postings in the first place will not do so again.
I would ask that people would ignore all posts made in my name
previous to this, and would ask that those filing complaints would stop,
as again I have not been the one posting these articles. As for those
that have taken offense to postings made in my name, I have no knowledge
of who has been using my account, but wish to apologize for any
misunderstanding.
Finally, I would ask those who have made complaints to stop, as I
have received a formal warning from the systems operator, and I would ask
people to stop stuffing my mailbox with replies to these posts.
Stacy
Roxe Joseph L.
Engel, Donald R. <st...@rosie.uh.edu> wrote:
>In article <dpeltier-250...@dpeltier.student.princeton.edu>, dpel...@princeton.edu (Dan Peltier) writes...
>>In article <4e7rvv$7...@panix.com>, lrud...@panix.com (Lee Rudolph) wrote:
>>> Princeton is the only university situated and celebrated in New Jersey.
>>
>>You mispelled "saturated"...
>>
>located in.
Unfortunately Princeton is now situated and saturated in New Jersey.
They must have let a chemistry major edit the words...;)
(Words from the Roaring '20's version at the end of the 250th video.)
Keep Smiling--
j-
Phillip A. Erwin
her system. This post has a very similair tone, diction, and sense of
arrogance to the other posts made from her account in the 'Ivy League'
threads. I am lead to conclude that she did make the posts.
Just my two cents....I don't even know why I'm saying this....
__
<erw...@nile.intac.com>
Phillip A. Erwin, Focused Student, Workaholic, EMT in training
Kharl Emstrekt
>Dear soc.college readers,
> Recently there have been replies to posts of which I have had no
>knowledge upon this newsgroup. I have not been the one posting these
>articles, and have taken action to change my password to make sure that
>whoever made these postings in the first place will not do so again.
(indignant denials reluctantly snipped)
> I have received a formal warning from the systems operator, and I would ask
>people to stop stuffing my mailbox with replies to these posts.
>Stacy
My, my...all that there high falutin' educashun at that prissy august
institootion, but no ability to control his/her own 'net access...
Is there a community college in the vicinity of Johns Hopkins that
could help you?