Porn Star fired from Bukkake for discriminating!
HIGH
work with blacks the black dude is the one to get fired...or never
hired in the first place. It seems like Ariana Jollee was hired to do
a Bukkake shoot for JM productions and I hour before the shoot she had
her agent call to make sure that if any black men were involved they
were to be fired. JM productions in a ground breaking move fired her
instead. This is the way things should be. If someone wants to be a
bigot they should not be rewarded. Now I wish companies like Redlight
and Evil Angel would adopt a similar strategy. Like
I have stated many times women who refuses to work with whitemen would
be instantly kicked out of porn. The same rule should apply regardless
of the race of the men.
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Bubba
>I think this is a first. Usually when a white porn slut refuses to
>work with blacks the black dude is the one to get fired...or never
>hired in the first place. It seems like Ariana Jollee was hired to do
>a Bukkake shoot for JM productions and I hour before the shoot she had
>her agent call to make sure that if any black men were involved they
>were to be fired. JM productions in a ground breaking move fired her
>instead. This is the way things should be. If someone wants to be a
>bigot they should not be rewarded. Now I wish companies like Redlight
>and Evil Angel would adopt a similar strategy. Like
>I have stated many times women who refuses to work with whitemen would
>be instantly kicked out of porn. The same rule should apply regardless
>of the race of the men.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree, but for a different reason. I don't care if any particular
male or female performer doesn't want to do IR. That is their choice.
I think they are losing out on a good thing, but that is their
preference.
Some pornchicks have a "no-ron-jeremy" clause. Obviously, the
director won't hire her to star with RJ. Same rules should apply with
IR issues.
Ms. Jollee should have been fired regardless. The producer/director
hired her to do a job, that she was unwilling to do. Therefore she
should be fired. Plain and simple.
If Ms. Jollee was a big star who owned her own production company, she
is completely entitled to call the shots on what she will do in her
movies.
When working for someone else, you have to do what you are being paid
to do. Otherwise, there is the door, don't let it hit you in the
ass....
Cheers,
Bubba
JC Reid
>I think this is a first. Usually when a white porn slut refuses to
>work with blacks the black dude is the one to get fired...or never
>hired in the first place. It seems like Ariana Jollee was hired to do
>a Bukkake shoot for JM productions and I hour before the shoot she had
>her agent call to make sure that if any black men were involved they
>were to be fired. JM productions in a ground breaking move fired her
>instead. This is the way things should be. If someone wants to be a
>bigot they should not be rewarded. Now I wish companies like Redlight
>and Evil Angel would adopt a similar strategy. Like
>I have stated many times women who refuses to work with whitemen would
>be instantly kicked out of porn. The same rule should apply regardless
>of the race of the men.
Ariana quit, she wasn't fired. Jeff didn't have enough time to find more
white loadblowers, so he had to go with a replacement cumcatcher, in place
of Ariana.
Tarkus
> Some pornchicks have a "no-ron-jeremy" clause. Obviously, the
> director won't hire her to star with RJ.
Does that mean they don't believe in interspecies sex?
--
"Never before has the beauty of the sexual act been so crassly
exploited!"
Now playing: "Synergy - Warriors"
Bobabsinthe
>be instantly kicked out of porn. The same rule should apply regardless
>of the race of the men.
I think women should be allowed to chose who they have sex with.
BTW if you think women shouldn't be allowed to chose the race of the person
they have sex with, should the same apply to gender? Do you think the men in
porn should have to have sex with other men if the director wants them to, or
be kicked out of porn?
Mike Paul
> I think this is a first. Usually when a white porn slut refuses to
> work with blacks the black dude is the one to get fired...or never
> hired in the first place. It seems like Ariana Jollee was hired to do
> a Bukkake shoot for JM productions and I hour before the shoot she had
> her agent call to make sure that if any black men were involved they
> were to be fired. JM productions in a ground breaking move fired her
> instead. This is the way things should be. If someone wants to be a
> bigot they should not be rewarded. Now I wish companies like Redlight
> and Evil Angel would adopt a similar strategy. Like
> be instantly kicked out of porn. The same rule should apply regardless
> of the race of the men.
http://www.sfbayvideos.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1894&whichpage=2 has
part of her response to this. Quite a "No, it's not my problem, it's
theirs" way of looking at what happened.
I am hoping there's no backlash against JM, since what looks like a
positive amount of backbone should be praised. By me, and others like
me, that is. "Freedom-lovers everywhere" are probably outraged.
Now, http://www.sfbayvideos.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1957 includes
information on another actress, who seems to imply her management company
gives her anti-BM advice. I'd like to see someone provide the name of
the management company, then we can track down other performers and see
what they do with any advice provided.
(Be advised that original links that say something have had a tendency
lately to be altered when held out for examination...)
Mike Paul
It's so rare to get any good info anymore, one has to cherish it when it
drops by...
The More You Talk The More I H8 You
Group: rec.arts.movies.erotica Date: Sun, Oct 19, 2003, 11:29am From:
bowfl...@yahoo.com (HIGH)
<<This is the way things should be. If someone wants to be a bigot they
should not be rewarded.>>
Not wanting to have sex with a black man doesn't make a girl a bigot.
<<The same rule should apply regardless of the race of the men.>>
That's borderline rape too.
Mike Paul
> work with blacks the black dude is the one to get fired...or never
> hired in the first place. It seems like Ariana Jollee was hired to do
> a Bukkake shoot for JM productions and I hour before the shoot she had
> her agent call to make sure that if any black men were involved they
> were to be fired. JM productions in a ground breaking move fired her
> instead. This is the way things should be. If someone wants to be a
> bigot they should not be rewarded. Now I wish companies like Redlight
> and Evil Angel would adopt a similar strategy. Like
> I have stated many times women who refuses to work with whitemen would
> be instantly kicked out of porn. The same rule should apply regardless
> of the race of the men.
http://www.sfbayvideos.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1894&whichpage=2 has
part of her response to this. Quite a "No, it's not my problem, it's
theirs" way of looking at what happened.
I am hoping there's no backlash against JM, since what looks like a
positive amount of backbone should be praised. By me, and others like
me, that is. "Freedom-lovers everywhere" are probably outraged.
Now, http://www.sfbayvideos.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1957 includes
information on another actress, who seems to imply her management company
gives her anti-BM advice. I'd like to see someone provide the name of
the management company, then we can track down other performers and see
what they do with any advice provided.
(Be advised that original links that say something have had a tendency
lately to be altered when held out for examination...)
Mike Paul
It's so rare to get any good info anymore, one has to cherish it when it
drops by...
Elana S
<bobab...@aol.com> wrote:
> I think women should be allowed to chose who they have sex with.
>
> BTW if you think women shouldn't be allowed to chose the race of the person
> they have sex with, should the same apply to gender? Do you think the men in
> porn should have to have sex with other men if the director wants them to, or
> be kicked out of porn?
Don't forget that gender is at least partly biologically ascribed, whereas
race is a totally superficially and artificially constructed categorization
with no biological meaning in the human species.
Just my quick two cents,
Elana
crownborn
news:<rame.1066592417p12731@linux>...
> >I have stated many times women who refuses to work with whitemen would
> >be instantly kicked out of porn. The same rule should apply regardless
> >of the race of the men.
>
> I think women should be allowed to chose who they have sex with.
>
> BTW if you think women shouldn't be allowed to chose the race of the person
> they have sex with, should the same apply to gender? Do you think the men in
> porn should have to have sex with other men if the director wants them to, or
> be kicked out of porn?
That is splitting some really fine hairs. Everyone should have the
right to decide who they are going to have a mutually enjoyable sexual
experience with. Porn stars, male and female, when on the clock aren't
there to have a necessarily pleasant time. They are at work. If they
don't like their job then they should seek employment elsewhere. A
bukkake isn't the type of place a women is going to find a mutually
enjoyable experience. At least not the type of intimacy I believe you
are alluding to. The only male equivalent to this type of situation is
when porn guys are hired to schtupp a women over the age, of say,
seventy. To equate one guy's exclusion(Ron Jeremy)to the exclusion of
an entire race of men is twisted. She should find another line of
work.
There are some men in the business who are bi-sexual and there is work
in that area but directors who work primarily on hetero films aren't
going to flip the script suddenly on a group of actors and ask them to
perform gay scenes. Most herero men will walk. Not all mind you but
most. It does come down to economics for most people. Interracial porn
is a very lucrative business. I'm sure Arianna will eventually make IR
porn in the future but I think she's concerned with friends and family
members discovering what she does. I'm sure not many of them know
about her work with Khan Tusion. I suspect if they did they might feel
perfoming sex acts with a black man would be something of a relief.
G.U.Y.
>
> BTW if you think women shouldn't be allowed to chose the race of the person
> they have sex with, should the same apply to gender? Do you think the men in
> porn should have to have sex with other men if the director wants them to, or
> be kicked out of porn?
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Comparing a man and woman having sex with two men having sex is just
ridiculous. A woman definitely has the right to chose who she shares
her body with but aren't all men supposed to be created equal? Some of
these girls act as if their being asked to do a scene with some kind
of animal or an alien from another Planet (just as your trying to
compare a BM/WF with M/M) like Black people are a different species.
HIGH
>
> > Some pornchicks have a "no-ron-jeremy" clause. Obviously, the
> > director won't hire her to star with RJ.
>
> Does that mean they don't believe in interspecies sex?
> --
Ron Jeremy is just one Jewish guy noting wrong without refusing to
work with one particular individual. The problem comes with the
blanked rejection of an entire race of people. Show me a starlet who
would have a no Jew policy and I will show you a starlet who will
receive a lifetime ban from porn.
Tarkus
> Comparing a man and woman having sex with two men having sex is just
> ridiculous. A woman definitely has the right to chose who she shares
> her body with but aren't all men supposed to be created equal?
So you're saying that every woman should share her body with all men
equally? What about you?
--
Sex is like a card game.
If you don't have a good partner...
you better have a good hand!
Now playing: "Synergy - Slaughter on Tenth Avenue"
Tarkus
> That is splitting some really fine hairs. Everyone should have the
> right to decide who they are going to have a mutually enjoyable sexual
> experience with. Porn stars, male and female, when on the clock aren't
> there to have a necessarily pleasant time. They are at work. If they
> don't like their job then they should seek employment elsewhere.
It's not like they work for McDonald's. In most cases they're a private
contractor, so they *do* seek employment elsewhere, for another porn
company. Who are you to say they should be out of the business
altogether?
--
Sex is like a card game.
If you don't have a good partner...
you better have a good hand!
Now playing: "Synergy - Slaughter on Tenth Avenue"
Tarkus
> Ron Jeremy is just one Jewish guy noting wrong without refusing to
> work with one particular individual. The problem comes with the
> blanked rejection of an entire race of people. Show me a starlet who
> would have a no Jew policy and I will show you a starlet who will
> receive a lifetime ban from porn.
Bullshit. Banned by whom? It's not like there's some global governing
body that decides who can make porn and who can't.
For all we know, there are some who already have that policy, and it's
just never been made an issue.
--
"Just remember what the MPAA says: Horrific, deplorable violence is
okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words!"
Now playing: "Synergy - Slaughter on Tenth Avenue"
Hart Williams
news:rame.1066563605p5290@linux...
> I think this is a first. Usually when a white porn slut refuses to
> work with blacks the black dude is the one to get fired...or never
> hired in the first place. It seems like Ariana Jollee was hired to do
> a Bukkake shoot for JM productions and I hour before the shoot she had
> her agent call to make sure that if any black men were involved they
> were to be fired. JM productions in a ground breaking move fired her
> instead. This is the way things should be. If someone wants to be a
> bigot they should not be rewarded. Now I wish companies like Redlight
> and Evil Angel would adopt a similar strategy. Like
> I have stated many times women who refuses to work with whitemen would
> be instantly kicked out of porn. The same rule should apply regardless
> of the race of the men.
"White porn slut"??
And the poster as the the gall to raise some flag about bigotry?
Really, while we're splitting hairs here, what more dehumanizing
and hateful characterization could be come up with for the women
who work in front of the camera? (I suppose "black porn slut"
would be OK here too, but that the "N" word would be bad).
The assumptions here about "equality" and/or "bigotry" are
already so skewed out of reality that it's tough to comment
further. When basic human dignity is denied to the selfsame
party accused of denying some other party of basic human
dignity (and, as we've seen, the presumption that the actress in
question was fired is false) the basic question has already been
so bizarrely distorted by a combination of inaccuracy and
double standards that further comment would be just
about meaningless. Re-examine your presumptions, please.
And what you're talking about is "prejudice" and NOT
"discrimination." To "discriminate" literally means to adjudge
different levels of quality; "prejudice" refers to a categorical,
pre-determined response with very little recourse to reality.
An actress could be prejudiced against Ron Jeremy -- because
of notions that furry hairballs are all stinky. But the same
actress might well discriminate against RJ -- in this case it
would be to adjudge that this PARTICULAR hairball was too
stinky to deal with. The processes are utterly dissimilar, even
though the outcome might be the same. The former is the
result of mindless categorization without reference to actuality,
whereas the latter would be a considered decision based
ON the reality of the specific incident.
Urgh.
--
Hart Williams
www.moyst.org
G.U.Y.
news:<rame.1066663205p30172@linux>...
What I'm saying is a guy is a guy no matter what he color is. Does
white skin make a guy a better person?, of course not but some of
these girls act like it does. I don't see how you could do a scene
swallowing 30 guys loads but the idea of there being 3 or 4 black guys
mixed in the crowd is just out of the question, some fucking morals
this girl has.
Disco Dancer
news:rame.1066669217p31503@linux:
> "HIGH" <bowfl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rame.1066563605p5290@linux...
>> I think this is a first. Usually when a white porn slut refuses to
>> work with blacks
[snip]
> "White porn slut"??
>
> And the poster as the the gall to raise some flag about bigotry?
Hart, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Anyway, I think that anybody in porn has the right to refuse any partner
for any reason. No matter how bigoted that reason may be. Then it's up to
the producer to decide what to do.
While JM made a rather original/refreshing decision here, that decision
may not have been made for ideological reasons at all, just like Arianas
decision may not have been based on bigotry at all.
They were both probably just being practical.
--
Disco Dancer
'tranny, she-male: euphemisms for a man with tits'
Chaining
[MOD: OK, that's the end of this thread, unless someone can bring something new
to the argument. Google's archives has dozens of Pro vs. Anti - IR threads,
many of them from the past few months. --Spaceman J]
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:03:13 EDT, in rec.arts.movies.erotica you
wrote:
>Don't forget that gender is at least partly biologically ascribed, whereas
>race is a totally superficially and artificially constructed categorization
>with no biological meaning in the human species.
Oh yes, I have heard some "scientists" saying that races do not exist,
the differences in DNA being so small, if any. Can you imagine anybody
more stupid than that? Yet, I am supposed to be of the same race than
them, LOL.
crownborn
> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:15:41 EDT, crownborn wrote:
> It's not like they work for McDonald's. In most cases they're a private
> contractor, so they *do* seek employment elsewhere, for another porn
> company. Who are you to say they should be out of the business
> altogether?
I'm the customer. I have the prerogative to not spend my money on her
appearances as you have the right to spend your money on her
appearances. Hey, best of luck Arianna Jollee. I just hope she doesn't
have to do too many golden showers.
Tarkus
> What I'm saying is a guy is a guy no matter what he color is. Does
> white skin make a guy a better person?, of course not but some of
> these girls act like it does. I don't see how you could do a scene
So not wanting to fuck someone means you think they're a bad person?
Maybe she's just not attracted to black guys. I'm not attracted to fat
and hairy women. Does that make me a bigot?
> swallowing 30 guys loads but the idea of there being 3 or 4 black guys
> mixed in the crowd is just out of the question, some fucking morals
> this girl has.
So if she allowed 3 or 4 black guys to shoot their loads on her, she'd
have better morals?
--
"Every time I get into bed, I want it. Guys are, like, 'Whoa, slow
down!' For most guys it's time to sleep. I'm, like, 'No, it's not!'
They can't keep up with me. And I don't believe in marriage."
- Josie Maran
Now playing: the radio
Tarkus
> Tarkus <karn...@beer.com> wrote in message news:<rame.1066663217p30214@linux>...
>> On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 06:15:41 EDT, crownborn wrote:
>
>> It's not like they work for McDonald's. In most cases they're a private
>> contractor, so they *do* seek employment elsewhere, for another porn
>> company. Who are you to say they should be out of the business
>> altogether?
>
> I'm the customer. I have the prerogative to not spend my money on her
> appearances as you have the right to spend your money on her
> appearances.
Exactly. But spending YOUR money the way YOU want to is far different
from saying that someone shouldn't be in the business at all, just
because you don't agree with how THEY do THEIR business.
--
Sex is like a card game.
If you don't have a good partner...
you better have a good hand!
Now playing: the radio
crownborn
> Exactly. But spending YOUR money the way YOU want to is far different
> from saying that someone shouldn't be in the business at all, just
> because you don't agree with how THEY do THEIR business.
I hope Arianna gets whatever she needs out of this business,
ultimately. I would prefer that she wouldn't set up the limitations
that she has. The various producers that she is employed by are also
going to set up limitations. A few may see her as a promising big star
in the adult business, others will see her as another piece of meat to
be put out before the salivating public. As long a she can sleep at
night and wake up in the morning with her integrity intact that's all
one can ask.
Frankly, I'm more of a Jewel DeNyle, Alexandra Quinn, Katanya Blade,
Lisa Sparkxxx, Francesca Le and Michelle Raven kind of guy. Big juicy
butts. All you other full-figure women in this newsgroup(Ms. Caine,
Ms. Stylee)...I'll keep supporting you, too.
Ariana Jollee
myself.
This post is mainly directed towards those who choose to jump to
conclusions, thrive off of negativity, and obviously have never in
their lives known what the definitition of an assumption is.
Assuming makes you look like a fool, usually.
I'm not all that sure why I am taking the time out to defend myself,
since in fact there is no need. But since it seems to be a big deal
who I choose to work with or not I suppose I should enlighten you all.
Holy shit, you have a "porn slut" here with a vocabulary.
And holy shit again, you have a "porn slut" who cares enough to want
to respond. Yes I care what my fans and those of who are not my fans
yet think of me. I don't just fuck on camera for money, it happens
that I love what I do and I always try to do the best job possible.
ESPECIALLY for those who watch.
Here in porn-land there is a genre called "interracial". In all
reality I would suppose that is generally society's own fault for
creating a difference between black and white. When one thinks of
interracial sex they think of a white woman with a black man, or
vice-versa. I may not personally agree with it, but I am on no goddamn
vendetta to change the face of the way porn is created. (The last time
I checked it was created for YOU the viewer). Pornography exists and
literally thrives off the fact that it is taboo, and it will always be
taboo. Psychologically the human mind is aroused but what they believe
is in some way wrong. Reading up on a bit of Freud may do some good.
As for my choice, and I repeat MY CHOICE, for not having sex with
someone on camera, is my choice and only my choice. I should not have
to sit here and explain to anyone why. I am not racist, nor do I use
deragatory terminology. Those who assume that girls who do not do
interracial are racist, the majority of time you will be wrong.
I happen to love anal sex, my first B/G scene was an anal scene, and
my second was a DP. If you knew how this business operates, you would
see that I made a phenomenal decision regarding my career. Who knows,
maybe in a couple months I will only be doing black guys !
I'll leave it at that, its time for me to go do some good dirrty
fucking.
As Ever,
Ariana Jollee
xxx
Mike Paul
> Here in porn-land there is a genre called "interracial".
Actually, there's a genre for it, and there's plenty of movies that
nobody labels "interracial" but happen to include it.
"Underworld": http://tinyurl.com/rzlm
"Night Trips": http://tinyurl.com/rzlr
Probably hundreds of movies; no sign of some genre-stigma.
So someone *could* put Black guys on their do-list, and end up with them
in high-dollar very-popular films. Assuming, of course, someone was
considered worth putting in such a film. Lexington Steele has been...
> Ariana Jollee
Mike Paul
Any other commentary is apparently going to be wasted...
Bobabsinthe
>I suppose I have every right to comment, since this is regarding
>myself.
Feel free to comment on any issue. I for one certainly like to hear the
opinions of those who work in the industry. I also agree with you 100% on this
issue.
Hart Williams
news:rame.1066874418p20731@linux...
> In article <rame.1066764011p23339@linux>, arianaj...@aol.com says...
>
> > Here in porn-land there is a genre called "interracial".
>
> Actually, there's a genre for it, and there's plenty of movies that
> nobody labels "interracial" but happen to include it.
>
> "Underworld": http://tinyurl.com/rzlm
>
> "Night Trips": http://tinyurl.com/rzlr
>
> Probably hundreds of movies; no sign of some genre-stigma.
>
> So someone *could* put Black guys on their do-list, and end up with them
> in high-dollar very-popular films. Assuming, of course, someone was
> considered worth putting in such a film. Lexington Steele has been...
>
> > Ariana Jollee
>
> Mike Paul
>
> Any other commentary is apparently going to be wasted...
Actually, I think *this* commentary was wasted. Mike. Having read Ariana's
eloquent response to the rather degrading and certainly oft-times clueless
charges against her, I read this post with some interest.
However, after over a quarter-century as a literary critic (when I'm not
working in the Biz), I can't make HEADS or TAILS of what you're trying to
say here. Nothing here parses, and while I'm sure that your position is
self-evident to YOU, Mike, it's completely fog to me.
Care to say what you actually meant?
--
Hart Williams
www.moyst.org
Mike Paul
[MOD: And that's the ball-game folks. It's the same tired bullshit
as before. When will it ever end?!? If you really have a desire to
read more on the subject go to:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=interracial+%22mike+paul%22+group:re
c.arts.movies.erotica - Jeff]
Now how did I manage to screw up the Subject?...
In article <rame.1066892416p25581@linux>, no...@nospam.hartwilliams.com
says...
> > Mike Paul
> >
> > Any other commentary is apparently going to be wasted...
>
> Actually, I think *this* commentary was wasted. Mike. Having read Ariana's
> eloquent response to the rather degrading and certainly oft-times clueless
> charges against her, I read this post with some interest.
'Eloquent'?
Somehow, I get the feeling you're an apologist, taking your turn to pick
on anyone rocking the boat. Let me explain why I think that.
She said:
> > Who knows, maybe in a couple months I will only be doing black guys !
This is the same bull-loney I and others hear all the time. Some
possible future change in policy, designed to make her look good, like
Janine and her 'maybe someday I'll do guys'.
And you blindly go along with whatever you could latch onto to make her
look good. Boy, she said this or that, and that makes her swell. I
thought the same of Janine.
What doesn't make her swell, in my book:
> > As for my choice, and I repeat MY CHOICE, for not having sex with
> > someone on camera, is my choice and only my choice. I should not have
> > to sit here and explain to anyone why. I am not racist, nor do I use
> > deragatory terminology. Those who assume that girls who do not do
> > interracial are racist, the majority of time you will be wrong.
Again, bull-loney.
Take an entire race of people, sight unseen, and refuse to work with
them, and you are a racist. Period.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?racist brings up two definitions.
Inferiority of Black men as partners in a scene qualifies.
Discrimination against Black men as partners in a scene qualifies.
[auto-response]
Yes, yes it does.
No, no you can't redefine 'inferior' or 'discrimination' to let her do
what she wants.
Really. Stop trying. That "my choice" stuff may work for what orifice
she offers, but not to the race of the person entering it.
[/auto-response]
Nobody has to use the N-word. "I choose not to work with African-
Americans" may not offend *you*, but it shows the same attitude. Someone
is inferior.
"Oh, no, Mike. Looks at what she *said*! If she says she's not racist,
then she's NOT! Get it through your thick head: she says so, it *is*
so."
What one *does* is often more telling that what one *says*...
> However, after over a quarter-century as a literary critic (when I'm not
> working in the Biz), I can't make HEADS or TAILS of what you're trying to
> say here. Nothing here parses, and while I'm sure that your position is
> self-evident to YOU, Mike, it's completely fog to me.
>
> Care to say what you actually meant?
>
> Hart Williams
Mike Paul
If you can't see how she tried to isolate all Black guys into some genre
she didn't want to be in, while in reality they *can* be everywhere if
people would let them, I can't help you...
Mike Mudd
It seems like Ariana Jollee was hired to do
> a Bukkake shoot for JM productions
Is that her last name??? I wonder if this is the
same girl that gets SLAMMED by Nina Hartley wearing
a strap on dildo in "Older Women and Young Girls"???
This girl was really hot and Nina really put that
Kosher ass in gear and layed some pipe on her.
;-)
Sir Archibald Stanton III
Jollee) wrote:
>I suppose I have every right to comment, since this is regarding
>myself.
>
>This post is mainly directed towards those who choose to jump to
>conclusions, thrive off of negativity, and obviously have never in
>their lives known what the definitition of an assumption is.
>
>Assuming makes you look like a fool, usually.
>
>I'm not all that sure why I am taking the time out to defend myself,
>since in fact there is no need. But since it seems to be a big deal
>who I choose to work with or not I suppose I should enlighten you all.
>
>Holy shit, you have a "porn slut" here with a vocabulary.
Not very special. Many rame "porn slut" contributors have
considerable vocabularies; ever hear of Eden Rae or Brandy Alexander?
Yeah yeah Brandy I'm just repeating her definition. :)
>And holy shit again, you have a "porn slut" who cares enough to want
>to respond. Yes I care what my fans and those of who are not my fans
>yet think of me. I don't just fuck on camera for money, it happens
>that I love what I do and I always try to do the best job possible.
>ESPECIALLY for those who watch.
>
>Here in porn-land there is a genre called "interracial". In all
>reality I would suppose that is generally society's own fault for
>creating a difference between black and white. When one thinks of
>interracial sex they think of a white woman with a black man, or
>vice-versa. I may not personally agree with it, but I am on no goddamn
>vendetta to change the face of the way porn is created. (The last time
>I checked it was created for YOU the viewer). Pornography exists and
>literally thrives off the fact that it is taboo, and it will always be
>taboo.
Im not sure I agree. If porn were not taboo it would still
enjoy the billions in sales. It most surely would exist. It just so
happens that in this country there has always been a segment of the
population <ie religious right etc.> who have stood against porn.
However, pornography has slowly gained a shrug-of-the-shoulders
acceptance among many and sales are better than ever.
> Psychologically the human mind is aroused but what they believe
>is in some way wrong. Reading up on a bit of Freud may do some good.
>
>As for my choice, and I repeat MY CHOICE, for not having sex with
>someone on camera, is my choice and only my choice. I should not have
>to sit here and explain to anyone why. I am not racist, nor do I use
>deragatory terminology.
Amen sister. This is still America and last time I checked you
still have freedom of choice as to who, when, where, and how you get
fucked. <and no im not fanning any flames towards the IR debate ----
that road has a dead end sign do not enter -- therefore I shall
observe>
>Those who assume that girls who do not do
>interracial are racist, the majority of time you will be wrong.
>
>I happen to love anal sex, my first B/G scene was an anal scene, and
>my second was a DP. If you knew how this business operates, you would
>see that I made a phenomenal decision regarding my career. Who knows,
>maybe in a couple months I will only be doing black guys !
Or you could be fucking Ron Jeremy and Ed Powers for $200. It's
a cruel business and most gals shelf life is limited. Be smart and
save your $$$. One day the phone might just stop ringing. Good luck to
you.
arch
GT
are willing to do!
And I am one to NEVER browbeat or shame or peer-pressure someone into doing
something they don't want to do. That's just a load of bullshit as far as
I'm concerned.
You may lose some jobs by being restrictive, but once again, THAT IS YOUR
CHOICE. You shouldn't be considered a slave towards what some other people
expect you to do.
There are those out there who just don't get it and probably never will, but
that's their problem.
Keep up the good work Ariana, and I'll be sure to bust a nut over you.
(laughs)
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:09:10 EDT, arianaj...@aol.com (Ariana
> Jollee) wrote:
>
>
>As for my choice, and I repeat MY CHOICE, for not having sex with
>someone on camera, is my choice and only my choice. I should not have
>to sit here and explain to anyone why. I am not racist, nor do I use
>deragatory terminology.
Shit Starter
Red Light District this month. It's been pushed backed to February.
Yeah, right. Who cares? Out with the old, in with the new.