What program its used to create this maps?????
Iacono Marco
except
An italian Vector program. Who knows? Not with lightwave, not photoshop, not
pagemaker, is it not a tablet, therefore you're pretty much crossposting to
a whole bunch of erroneous newsgroups.
Hi other crosspost-victims!
"Iacono Marco" <iacon...@tiscalinet.it> wrote in message
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Tesselator
it could even have been put together in Pagemaker with a tablet.
I don't read italliano so I donno if it says but wouldn't be
easier to find the owner of www.guideiacono.it/piantine.htm
and ask him?
"except" <in...@Nospam-except.nl> wrote in message news:bn6jp9$96t$1...@news.tudelft.nl...
John McGerr
suggests the maps were done with a CAD program.
John McGerr
Tesselator
> I don't know Italian either but this bit here 'E' un programma di cad'
> suggests the maps were done with a CAD program.
> John McGerr
There ya go! It was made with "Di CAD"....
O :-)
John Harris, III
andare a modificare, ci saranno delle librerie da modificare."
Google translation: <a program of cad sure and will have of the objects
already predisposed to go to modify, will be of the bookcases to modify>
*maybe it says; a CAD program will already have a built-in library of
objects.
"Interessante perché crea anche delle piantine e degli spaccati."
Google translation: <Interesting because it creates also of the
piantine and of it cracks to you.>
*maybe it says; it also creates patina and texture
"Grazie a chi saprà darmi una mano d'aiuto"
Google translation: <Thanks to who will know give to me one aid hand>
*maybe it says Thanks in Advance.
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Joanne Weston
In my opinion the best program for this type of stuff is Illustrator, if
you know Freehand then that is a possibility.
Matt
"Iacono Marco" <iacon...@tiscalinet.it> wrote in message
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Gareth Jax
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Let me help, because i'm italian too :)
> "E' un programma di cad sicuramente ed avrà degli oggetti già
> predisposti da andare a modificare, ci saranno delle librerie da
> modificare."
>
> Google translation: <a program of cad sure and will have of the
> objects
> already predisposed to go to modify, will be of the bookcases to
> modify>
> *maybe it says; a CAD program will already have a built-in
> library of
> objects.
Correct! He state that it should be a cad software with built-in library
of objects.
> "Interessante perché crea anche delle piantine e degli spaccati."
>
> Google translation: <Interesting because it creates also of the
> piantine and of it cracks to you.>
> *maybe it says; it also creates patina and texture
Nope: Piantina is a italian jargon for Map/floorplan.
Spaccato/i is the italian word for Cross-section/s.
(humorous translations corner: "Piantina" could also mean "little tree"
and "spaccato" also mean "Broken" ;)
> "Grazie a chi saprà darmi una mano d'aiuto"
> Google translation: <Thanks to who will know give to me one aid
> hand> *maybe it says Thanks in Advance.
Correct :)
Google translations are quite good! Babelfish was much more funny :)
--
Gareth Jax
Ihgger #7*3*2
Indegno Neurone della Mente alveare
Big Bad of Con-Fu Fighting
avvistatore su ihgg di Vincenzo Beretta
Alessandro D. Petaccia
ROTFL. But no, there are no additional infos on that webpage - in
fact, it's made by the same guy who started this thread and basically
it just says "what the hell did they use to do this stuff?!"
My guess is Curious World Maps, btw. Amazing piece of software, too
bad about the price...
ADP.
except
skyscraper out of live ants. YEs, it IS possible...
Ps could, but highly doubtfull.
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Tesselator
rejected twice cuz they didn't believe it was made in LW. They
backed down when I sicked the principal on them. But it looked
almost like the same style as those stills shown in this example.
So I really gotta say that while they probably aren't LW there's
*no way* I would claim to /know/ with _any_ defree of certainty.
Even moreso now that it's been established that the text messages
were written by the same guy who originally asked about it here.
> Oh comeon tess, it wasnt made in LW or Pagemaker. Thats like building a
> skyscraper out of live ants. YEs, it IS possible...
> Ps could, but highly doubtfull.
> > Actually it could indeed be Lightwave, it could be Photoshop, and
> > it could even have been put together in Pagemaker with a tablet.
> >
> > I don't read italliano so I donno if it says but wouldn't be
> > easier to find the owner of www.guideiacono.it/piantine.htm
> > and ask him?
> > > "Iacono Marco" <iacon...@tiscalinet.it> wrote in message
Robert Jennings
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<jfinn.m...@virgin.net> wrote:
> Marco,
> In my opinion the best program for this type of stuff is Illustrator, if
> you know Freehand then that is a possibility.
I agree. Illustrator is the only way to fly.
Also, you can scale all you want without loosing quality.
Paul Andrews
"Robert Jennings" <nos...@nospam.gov> wrote in message
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> On 10/22/03 12:40 PM, in article
> K8Llb.1828$J34.1...@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net, "Joanne Weston"
> <jfinn.m...@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> > Marco,
> > In my opinion the best program for this type of stuff is Illustrator,
if
> > you know Freehand then that is a possibility.
>
> I agree. Illustrator is the only way to fly.
Err.. no.
> Also, you can scale all you want without loosing quality.
Yes, but why do you think only illustrator does this?
http://www.xara.co.uk/products/xarax/
Paul
Joanne Weston
money. As I said - In my opinion Illustrator is the best for this - I know
Illustrator is the not the only one that does this, which is why I took the
trouble to mention another popular app.
Matt
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CWCunningham
features for years, and comes with CD's full of clipart.
I'm not suggesting it's better than Illustrator, or Xara, since I've never
used these. But it is a good app, and comes with lot's of other support
apps, so it's worth a look for those interested.
--
CWC
=========================
Beer
More than just a breakfast drink.
--- Sign on a tavern wall ---
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"Joanne Weston" <jfinn.m...@virgin.net> wrote in message
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Jim Dynes
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<ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote:
>
> "Robert Jennings" <nos...@nospam.gov> wrote in message
> news:BBBDE763.C850%nos...@nospam.gov...
>> On 10/22/03 12:40 PM, in article
>> K8Llb.1828$J34.1...@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net, "Joanne Weston"
>> <jfinn.m...@virgin.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Marco,
>>> In my opinion the best program for this type of stuff is Illustrator,
> if
>>> you know Freehand then that is a possibility.
>>
>> I agree. Illustrator is the only way to fly.
>
> Err.. no.
Err yes!!
>
>> Also, you can scale all you want without loosing quality.
>
> Yes, but why do you think only illustrator does this?
He never said that!! You are putting words in his mouth. He said " Also, you
can scale all you want without loosing quality."
Most people already have Illustrator. I don't know of anyone who has xarax.
Hecate
<charlesw-at-blackfoot.net> wrote:
>Corel Draw is another excellent vector app. It's had a lot of the Xara *new*
>features for years, and comes with CD's full of clipart.
>
>I'm not suggesting it's better than Illustrator, or Xara, since I've never
>used these. But it is a good app, and comes with lot's of other support
>apps, so it's worth a look for those interested.
Also, if you're doing stuff that needs to end up on the web, Freehand
is now a much better choice than it used to be. (yes, I know you don't
use vectors on the web, but it has a number of features Illustrator
doesn't have and integrates well with DW and FW.
--
Hecate
Hec...@newsguy.com
veni, vidi, relinqui
Paul Andrews
"Jim Dynes" <nos...@nospam.gov> wrote in message
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> On 10/25/03 10:46 AM, in article
> TOxmb.1046$Zr6...@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net, "Paul Andrews"
> <ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Robert Jennings" <nos...@nospam.gov> wrote in message
> > news:BBBDE763.C850%nos...@nospam.gov...
> >> On 10/22/03 12:40 PM, in article
> >> K8Llb.1828$J34.1...@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net, "Joanne Weston"
> >> <jfinn.m...@virgin.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Marco,
> >>> In my opinion the best program for this type of stuff is
Illustrator,
> > if
> >>> you know Freehand then that is a possibility.
> >>
> >> I agree. Illustrator is the only way to fly.
> >
> > Err.. no.
>
> Err yes!!
If you haven't checked out Xarax you are in no position to judge.
> >> Also, you can scale all you want without loosing quality.
> >
> > Yes, but why do you think only illustrator does this?
>
> He never said that!! You are putting words in his mouth. He said " Also,
you
> can scale all you want without loosing quality."
>
> Most people already have Illustrator. I don't know of anyone who has
xarax.
I do and have used it for years. If you have a few moments to spare you
could try the trial out and take a look at the tutorials and forums:
http://www.xaraxone.com/ many users of xarax are ex-illustrator users. Xarax
is a well kept secret because the developers dont have adobe's advertising
$.
Xarax is fast, powerfull and easy to use.
Paul
Paul Andrews
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> money.
I would say Xarax is definitely the most for the money - it costs
considerably less than illustrator and many Xarax users are ex-illustrator
users. If someone is going to buy a program, then why not check out
illustrator and Xarax?
Paul
Helpful Harry
<hec...@newsguy.com> wrote:
"Vectors on the web" is usually the domain of Flash / Shockwave. :o)
For "professional" use you really need to stick with Freehand or
Illustrator if you want to make it easier to get a job - although some
places may well use other applications, they are by far the minority
... at the moment.
Illustrator's similarity to Adobe's other products makes it ideal for a
simple workflow using Acrobat, InDesign, Photoshop and/or GoLive, as
well as being a part some of Adobe's bundle boxes (which makes it
cheaper too if you need to buy all/most of the applications at one
time).
Helpful Harry
"Just trying to help whenever I can." :o)
Kevin Carrico
> Illustrator if you want to make it easier to get a job - although some
> places may well use other applications, they are by far the minority
> ... at the moment.
All the printers we use for high-end stuff around here (Detroit) are very PC
friendly... and CorelDRAW friendly as well. It's been two or three years
since I've seen Mac-only at at least 4 or 5 facilities in town... which is
great. And ever since Corel got their EPS writer on track (with version 7 or
8, I believe) there's been no trouble saving as EPS or Illustrator for the
few times we've run across Mac-only services. Even the Kinko's around here
all have CorelDRAW. And Corel rocks when it comes to publishing PDF (at
least v10 & v11) for print and more and more printers are going that way to
be platform independent anyway. Low-res PDF for client approval and high-res
PDF to the printer.
All in all, it's like any of the "LW versus other 3D application" arguments;
it's personal preference... and the results have far more to do with WHO is
using it than how "great" the software is.
Kevin Carrico
Tesselator
"Paul Andrews" <ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote in message news:1WFmb.1388$Zr6...@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
You must work for the Xara co...
Paul Andrews
Don't be so silly. I just love the program and don't like the fact that so
many people don't know of it and assume Adobe Illustrator is the only way to
go.
Paul
Tesselator
"Paul Andrews" <ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote in message news:YOWmb.1953$Zr6...@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
Okay, I just thought because you said the same thing three times in a cross
posted thread that you must have a vested interest of some kind. Especially
when the Xara tools don't compare favorably to the three top dogs.
Anyway, it's not important if you are or not. I was just curious and Xara
tools are very good generaly speaking!
Paul Andrews
>
> Okay, I just thought because you said the same thing three times in a
cross
> posted thread that you must have a vested interest of some kind.
Especially
> when the Xara tools don't compare favorably to the three top dogs.
>
> Anyway, it's not important if you are or not. I was just curious and Xara
> tools are very good generaly speaking!
>
I might say that Xara is to Illustrator what Lightwave is to Maya.
As far as Xara tools not comparing favourably, I can only speak about XaraX
and say that it is the tool of preference for many illustrators that have
both XaraX and illustrator. I guess the same could be true for many 3D
people who have both Lightwave and Maya or Lightwave and Max.
Anyway, for those that read the thread, they have the chance to look for
themselves.
I kinda like following the underdog!
Paul
Tesselator
> Anyway, for those that read the thread, they have the chance to look for
> themselves.
>
> I kinda like following the underdog!
>
> Paul
Ya, I know what you mean.
Hecate
Xara X to give it it's proper title, is a nice program,. but not the
easiest to use. And it's probably no worse than Illustrator. However,
it doesn't have the flexibility of the Corel Draw Suite, nor is it as
good as what, IMHO, is the current market leader, Freehand And that's
not even mentioning Deneba Canvas which is also far more flexible in
it's ability to deal with both vector and bitmap images in the same
image.
Hecate
<ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote:
>Anyway, for those that read the thread, they have the chance to look for
>themselves.
>
>I kinda like following the underdog!
>
I just don't like cleaning up after it.
Hecate
<helpfu...@nom.de.plume.com> wrote:
Also, if you're doing stuff that needs to end up on the web,
Freehand
>> is now a much better choice than it used to be. (yes, I know you don't
>> use vectors on the web, but it has a number of features Illustrator
>> doesn't have and integrates well with DW and FW.
>
>"Vectors on the web" is usually the domain of Flash / Shockwave. :o)
;-) Yes, well, I like to kep things simple ;_)
>For "professional" use you really need to stick with Freehand or
>Illustrator if you want to make it easier to get a job - although some
>places may well use other applications, they are by far the minority
>... at the moment.
True, though Corel Draw has a good following for good reason. The
latest iteration is far more useful (and more importantly, far more
stable) than previous versions.
>Illustrator's similarity to Adobe's other products makes it ideal for a
>simple workflow using Acrobat, InDesign, Photoshop and/or GoLive, as
>well as being a part some of Adobe's bundle boxes (which makes it
>cheaper too if you need to buy all/most of the applications at one
>time).
>
That's true too, though I find that you're better off using best of
breed rather than just tying yourself to one company's products.
Consequently, Go Live stays on my machine purely to he;lp out friends
who've tried to use it and get stuck. For professional site
construction, Dreamweaver is far and away the best. With vector apps,
I use whatever is better for the job in hand - my current favourite is
Freehand, though Corel Draw has it's uses too. Illustrator is a way
behind at the moment, though I would prefer to be able to prefer it,
if you see what I mean ;-)
Paul Andrews
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> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 02:00:59 -0000, "Paul Andrews"
> <ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote:
>
> >"Joanne Weston" <jfinn.m...@virgin.net> wrote in message
> >news:baBmb.705$ke.10...@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net...
> >> If your going to shell out your cash you may as well get the most for
your
> >> money.
> >
> >I would say Xarax is definitely the most for the money - it costs
> >considerably less than illustrator and many Xarax users are
ex-illustrator
> >users. If someone is going to buy a program, then why not check out
> >illustrator and Xarax?
> >
> Xara X to give it it's proper title, is a nice program,. but not the
> easiest to use.
I'm very surprised to hear that. Xara X is one of the simplest of programs
to use, it doesn't have myriads of buttons and settings and is very fast.
Those that use it do so becuase of what it can do and it's ease of use.
> And it's probably no worse than Illustrator. However,
> it doesn't have the flexibility of the Corel Draw Suite,
It's a single program, not a suite, and is a fraction of the cost of the
CorelDraw 11 suite.
> nor is it as
> good as what, IMHO, is the current market leader, Freehand And that's
> not even mentioning Deneba Canvas which is also far more flexible in
> it's ability to deal with both vector and bitmap images in the same
> image.
I couldn't get on with Deneba Canvas. I use bitmap images often in XaraX,
though I don't attempt to retouch the bitmaps, except to mask, resize, or
combine them. I find Xara X is great for this kind of work, as well as
converting bitmaps to Adobe Illustrator or Flash format.
> Hecate
> Hec...@newsguy.com
> veni, vidi, relinqui
Paul
Waldo
applications.
Waldo
"Iacono Marco" <iacon...@tiscalinet.it> wrote in message
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Tesselator
yours! So there! Nya nya nya!
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Hecate
<ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote:
>> >
>> Xara X to give it it's proper title, is a nice program,. but not the
>> easiest to use.
>
>I'm very surprised to hear that. Xara X is one of the simplest of programs
>to use, it doesn't have myriads of buttons and settings and is very fast.
>Those that use it do so becuase of what it can do and it's ease of use.
I disagree, having used and discarded it.
>> And it's probably no worse than Illustrator. However,
>> it doesn't have the flexibility of the Corel Draw Suite,
>
>It's a single program, not a suite, and is a fraction of the cost of the
>CorelDraw 11 suite.
Yes, it is cheaper, and for me it shows it.
>> nor is it as
>> good as what, IMHO, is the current market leader, Freehand And that's
>> not even mentioning Deneba Canvas which is also far more flexible in
>> it's ability to deal with both vector and bitmap images in the same
>> image.
>
>I couldn't get on with Deneba Canvas. I use bitmap images often in XaraX,
>though I don't attempt to retouch the bitmaps, except to mask, resize, or
>combine them. I find Xara X is great for this kind of work, as well as
>converting bitmaps to Adobe Illustrator or Flash format.
>
Same as I obviously couldn't get on with Xara X. For me it's nice
idea, shame about the interface.
--
Paul Andrews
> Well my Dad can beat up your dad! And ALL my software is better than
> yours! So there! Nya nya nya!
I think you win the argument.. ;-)
Paul Andrews
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:03:55 -0000, "Paul Andrews"
> <ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote:
>
> Same as I obviously couldn't get on with Xara X. For me it's nice
> idea, shame about the interface.
OK, Hecate, I guess your horse isn't thirsty.
Paul
Tesselator
"Paul Andrews"
Hey, can we compare Notepad and QuarkExpress next?
Paul Andrews
>
> "Paul Andrews"
>
>
> Hey, can we compare Notepad and QuarkExpress next?
>
What does your dad think?
Helpful Harry
You mean there's a difference?? ;o)
Tesselator
"Helpful Harry" <helpfu...@nom.de.plume.com> wrote in message news:281020031810128035%helpfu...@nom.de.plume.com...
LOL!!!
I donno... But I think NotePad must be better...
Just look how many X Quark Express users are using
it. And Price:Proformance wise, NotePad really kicks
butt! And such a simple elegant UI, so easy to learn
and use. I highly recommend you all give it a try.
Heck, if you run windows you don't even need to download
it -- It's so good MicroSoft put it on your HD for you.
O :-)
CreaMD
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:03:55 -0000, "Paul Andrews"
> <ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> Xara X to give it it's proper title, is a nice program,. but not the
> >> easiest to use.
> >
> >I'm very surprised to hear that. Xara X is one of the simplest of programs
> >to use, it doesn't have myriads of buttons and settings and is very fast.
> >Those that use it do so becuase of what it can do and it's ease of use.
>
> I disagree, having used and discarded it.
It's like sayin IQ test is stupid coz I can't make a nice score in it
;-)
>> And it's probably no worse than Illustrator. However,
>> it doesn't have the flexibility of the Corel Draw Suite,
>
>It's a single program, not a suite, and is a fraction of the cost of
the
>CorelDraw 11 suite.
>
>Yes, it is cheaper, and for me it shows it.
Yeah pencil is also cheaer than a fancy advertising 3 colors ball-pen
and it shows it, but gues what will illustrator (not an app in this
case ;-) choose to draw his ideas with?
Tesselator
> >> And it's probably no worse than Illustrator. However,
> >> it doesn't have the flexibility of the Corel Draw Suite,
> > It's a single program, not a suite, and is a fraction of the cost of the
> > CorelDraw 11 suite.
> > Yes, it is cheaper, and for me it shows it.
> Yeah pencil is also cheaer than a fancy advertising 3 colors ball-pen
> and it shows it, but gues what will illustrator (not an app in this
> case ;-) choose to draw his ideas with?
Cammel Urine and a dead rat?
Seattle Eric
> Also, if you're doing stuff that needs to end up on the web, Freehand
> is now a much better choice than it used to be. (yes, I know you don't
> use vectors on the web,<SNIP>
>
You do if you're A) using Flash, and B) smart.
Flash is an even better reason to use Freehand.
CreaMD
Pearls to swine.. ;)
Hecate
That is true if you're using Flash sensibly. If, however, you're
building a site entirely from Flash, guaranteed to annoy just about
everyone except the designers who think it's "really cool", then no
;-)
Hecate
<jimm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Well my Dad can beat up your dad! And ALL my software is better than
>yours! So there! Nya nya nya!
>
Well, I just surrender then ;-)
--
Hecate
>Hecate <hec...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<orbrpvk8e5ccdjuf1...@4ax.com>...
>> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:03:55 -0000, "Paul Andrews"
>> <ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote:
>>
>> >> >
>> >> Xara X to give it it's proper title, is a nice program,. but not the
>> >> easiest to use.
>> >
>> >I'm very surprised to hear that. Xara X is one of the simplest of programs
>> >to use, it doesn't have myriads of buttons and settings and is very fast.
>> >Those that use it do so becuase of what it can do and it's ease of use.
>>
>> I disagree, having used and discarded it.
>
>It's like sayin IQ test is stupid coz I can't make a nice score in it
>;-)
No, it's like saying I don't agree with you. It so happens I live in a
Democracy and we're allowed to do that.
>>> And it's probably no worse than Illustrator. However,
>>> it doesn't have the flexibility of the Corel Draw Suite,
>>
>>It's a single program, not a suite, and is a fraction of the cost of
>the
>>CorelDraw 11 suite.
>>
>>Yes, it is cheaper, and for me it shows it.
>
>Yeah pencil is also cheaer than a fancy advertising 3 colors ball-pen
>and it shows it, but gues what will illustrator (not an app in this
>case ;-) choose to draw his ideas with?
That depends on the Illustrator. This one uses Freehand, Corel Draw
and Illustrator (definitely an app).
Hecate
<helpfu...@nom.de.plume.com> wrote:
>"Tesselator" <jimm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bnki87$42b$1...@catv02.starcat.ne.jp...
>>
>> Hey, can we compare Notepad and QuarkExpress next?
>
>You mean there's a difference?? ;o)
>
Yes,,. Notepad is easier to use, doesn't crash as often and has less
bugs and better support ;-)
Seattle Eric
> > You must work for the Xara co...
>
> Don't be so silly. I just love the program and don't like the fact that so
> many people don't know of it and assume Adobe Illustrator is the only way to
> go.
> Paul
What I can't figure out is why Freehand is so popular--- it' really seems
ass-backwards compared to Illustrator, but many designers swear by it, and their
favorite thing, the spline pen, is the thing I think is the worst aspect.
Tesselator
"Hecate" <hec...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:sa5upv4duj077vg3i...@4ax.com...
And isn't Anark taking over flash? I thought flash was the old and
Anark was the new?
Tesselator
> > > >> And it's probably no worse than Illustrator. However,
> > > >> it doesn't have the flexibility of the Corel Draw Suite,
> >
> >
> > > > It's a single program, not a suite, and is a fraction of the cost of the
> > > > CorelDraw 11 suite.
> >
> >
> > > > Yes, it is cheaper, and for me it shows it.
> >
> >
> > > Yeah pencil is also cheaer than a fancy advertising 3 colors ball-pen
> > > and it shows it, but gues what will illustrator (not an app in this
> > > case ;-) choose to draw his ideas with?
> >
> >
> > Cammel Urine and a dead rat?
>
> Pearls to swine.. ;)
Nah, Swine in the pearl bed. ;)
Hecate
I went off Freehand about v.9 but as I had it I upgraded it to MX then
2004. It's far better now and integrates well with the Macromedia
suite. If you're designing for the web it tends to be used more. In
fact, I've gotten so used to it,. it's the app I use the most for
vectors. It's improved a helluva lot. My second choice is Corel Draw
and Illustrator comes a poor third now. And as there's no way I'm
going to buy an activation type Illustrator (i.e. Illustrator CS) it
looks like I won't be using it much any more.
Hecate
Well, it's so new it hasn't passed across my radar screen ;-)
But the point you're making is very valid. They'll use whatever is the
"next big thing" and just irritate the hell out of the people who
actually want to *use* the site :)
Tesselator
"Hecate" <hec...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:kmn0qvo1elk2nrh1m...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:37:24 +0900, "Tesselator"
> <jimm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Hecate" <hec...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:sa5upv4duj077vg3i...@4ax.com...
> >> On 28 Oct 2003 17:29:08 GMT, Seattle Eric <not...@erewhon.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hecate wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Also, if you're doing stuff that needs to end up on the web, Freehand
> >> >> is now a much better choice than it used to be. (yes, I know you don't
> >> >> use vectors on the web,<SNIP>
> >> >>
> >> > You do if you're A) using Flash, and B) smart.
> >> >
> >> > Flash is an even better reason to use Freehand.
> >>
> >> That is true if you're using Flash sensibly. If, however, you're
> >> building a site entirely from Flash, guaranteed to annoy just about
> >> everyone except the designers who think it's "really cool", then no
> >> ;-)
> >
> >And isn't Anark taking over flash? I thought flash was the old and
> >Anark was the new?
>
> Well, it's so new it hasn't passed across my radar screen ;-)
Three years now I think. Quite mature. I think maybe the reason
it didn't spread faster is the Studio Version is $995.00 or so and
other creator aps like LW, 3Ds, xSI, Maya, C4D, or 2D vector editors
like your freehand there and others, etc. don't have widely known
export facilities to that format - if at all. The browser plug-in
is a painless 10sec 4 click install tho. The stuff I see that's
Anark sure is pretty! It's like Flash with game quality DX or
OpenGL.
> But the point you're making is very valid. They'll use whatever is the
> "next big thing" and just irritate the hell out of the people who
> actually want to *use* the site :)
Hehehe... Not sure that was my point but it sounds about right. :-/
Hecate
<jimm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, it's so new it hasn't passed across my radar screen ;-)
>
>Three years now I think. Quite mature. I think maybe the reason
>it didn't spread faster is the Studio Version is $995.00 or so and
>other creator aps like LW, 3Ds, xSI, Maya, C4D, or 2D vector editors
>like your freehand there and others, etc. don't have widely known
>export facilities to that format - if at all. The browser plug-in
>is a painless 10sec 4 click install tho. The stuff I see that's
>Anark sure is pretty! It's like Flash with game quality DX or
>OpenGL.
>
Thanks for the info. I'll google it :)
Blair Maynard
and color, I'll jump to it.
"Paul Andrews" <ac...@dial.pipex.commmmm> wrote in message
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> "Tesselator" <jimm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bnhkgg$piq$1...@catv02.starcat.ne.jp...
> >
> > Okay, I just thought because you said the same thing three times in a
> cross
> > posted thread that you must have a vested interest of some kind.
> Especially
> > when the Xara tools don't compare favorably to the three top dogs.
> >
> > Anyway, it's not important if you are or not. I was just curious and
Xara
> > tools are very good generaly speaking!
> >
>
> I might say that Xara is to Illustrator what Lightwave is to Maya.
>
> As far as Xara tools not comparing favourably, I can only speak about
XaraX
> and say that it is the tool of preference for many illustrators that have
> both XaraX and illustrator. I guess the same could be true for many 3D
> people who have both Lightwave and Maya or Lightwave and Max.
>
> Anyway, for those that read the thread, they have the chance to look for
> themselves.
>
> I kinda like following the underdog!
>
> Paul
>
>
Helpful Harry
Yesterday I was playing with the brushes, etc. that get installed with
Adobe Illustrator 9 and saw one that looked similar to the "map pins" I
remember seeing on the original message's image ... but then again,
they're probably a fairly standard feature or easily created on any
vector application.
Paul Andrews
"Blair Maynard" <DELETEMEbl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> If Xarx can do spot colors with transparency or mesh grids with
transparency
> and color, I'll jump to it.
XaraX does do spot colours, but all drawing objects set with transparency
will go to CMYK separation..
Paul