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Dick Silk

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Jan 23, 2002, 4:33:33 PM1/23/02
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for those of you who have experimented with the right eye first technique and
HAVE discovered how to instantly trigger your REMs, here's the next step:

focus your mind on a mantra after your REMs start.

For instance:

"Seek ye first the Kingdom of God" (or other such enlightening ideas)

Once your rems start, keep repeating such a mantra over and over until you
either a) notice the hypnogogic imagery, b) notice a SCENE develop in your mind
(it's like a black and white tv show, only it's more purple and white), or c)
fall asleep, in which case you'll need to keep remembering the mantra every
time you half-stir to consciousness, or try again the next night.

another mantra to try would be "I love my Father" or "Resist not evil, but turn
the other cheek."

the shorter the mantra the better (such as "resist not evil"). (Matt 5, 39,
KJV)


using a mantra with REMs is surprisingly effective in achieving a wide host of
interesting effects. I look forward to reading about any results you wish to
share.

Silk.


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richardcsilk at aol dot com. Thanks.

Mike Le May

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Jan 23, 2002, 5:33:09 PM1/23/02
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this sounds very interesting, but i am not familiar with this technique.
what is the first step? any information on the technique would be much
appreciated.

thanks


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mudpepper

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Jan 23, 2002, 7:56:21 PM1/23/02
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> this sounds very interesting, but i am not familiar with this technique.
> what is the first step? any information on the technique would be much
> appreciated.
>
> thanks

dick posted the first part of this a few weeks ago :
-------------------
This is a subject I posted many years ago, and will try to re-post in a much
shorter version here:

To remember dreams better / to enter dreams more smoothly:

1) ALWAYS close right eye first (then left).
2) with both eyes closed, close right eye a bit tighter (then left).
3) relax right eye first (then left). This starts the REM sequence
immediately.
upon waking:
4) ALWAYS open right eye first (then left).
===
your entire night has just been one blink long. Surely you can remember
what
you were thinking / dreaming about during the time span of one simple blink,
eh? ;^)
===
hint: if you can't get the REM phase to activate immediately, keep
pondering
and repeat practicing the sequence of step #2 above while meditating on
steps 1
and 4 (simply stated: always close right eye first, always open right eye
first.) There's a bunch of binary theory behind this and spiritual
guardianship which I once believed in a lot, but the simple fact of the
matter
is: this actually works! Whatever theory may be behind it is all B.S. in
the
final analysis.

Silk.

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richardcsilk at aol dot com. Thanks.

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Dick Silk

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Jan 24, 2002, 10:38:04 AM1/24/02
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In article <a2nm3i$jeo$1...@laurel.tc.umn.edu>, "mudpepper" <as...@some.time>
writes:

>> thanks
>
>dick posted the first part of this a few weeks ago :
>-------------------
>This is a subject I posted many years ago, and will try to re-post in a much
>shorter version here:
>

thanks, Mud! :) I never thought anyone would save that... I'm touched :)

Dick Silk

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Jan 24, 2002, 10:38:04 AM1/24/02
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In article <FSG38.38469$ax5.1...@typhoon.kc.rr.com>, "Mike Le May"
<mle...@new.rr.com> writes:

>this sounds very interesting, but i am not familiar with this technique.
>what is the first step? any information on the technique would be much
>appreciated.
>

just browse back about 3 weeks, search on "silk" and "right eye first" and you
should get the full details.

Mike Le May

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Jan 28, 2002, 5:06:48 PM1/28/02
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thank you for posting this technique! though i had my doubts at first, i
actually have achieved success with it. i've noticed that it works best
after about 5-6 hours of sleep. i get up to shut off my alarm (and am still
VERY tired), and immediately lie down and do the technique and... instant
REM! occassionally i have had trouble with it, but often times the results
are incredible.

again thanks.
Matthiu


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Dick Silk

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Jan 28, 2002, 11:48:16 PM1/28/02
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In article <YXj58.40230$ax5.1...@typhoon.kc.rr.com>, "Mike Le May"
<mle...@new.rr.com> writes:

>
>thank you for posting this technique! though i had my doubts at first, i
>actually have achieved success with it. i've noticed that it works best
>after about 5-6 hours of sleep. i get up to shut off my alarm (and am still
>VERY tired), and immediately lie down and do the technique and... instant
>REM! occassionally i have had trouble with it, but often times the results
>are incredible.
>

Thank you for your kind comments! :)

OK: we've gone over step 1: triggering the REMs.
step 2: trying a mantra.
now we get into step 3: going into visions: (some of you are going to be MUCH
better at this than others!!!)

The whole secret behind the instant REM trigger is the "scrunching" which you
do with eyes closed.
If I just close one eye then the other, I'm sitting with my eyes shut: no
effect, nothing special.
If I *scrunch* my right eye tighter then the left, then relax the right, then
the left, THAT triggers the REMs.

HINT: you can "time" or "edit" your REMs: you can actually achieve LONG Eye
MOVEMENTS (LEMs!) which I like doing (alot!) Your two eyeballs will kindof
"play ping pong" (best way to describe it) as they weave back and forth, right,
left, right, left, towards the center, upwards, which is in some circles called
focusing on your "third eye" or "mind's eye".

A quick scrunch will trigger fast REMs, sometimes "volatile" REMs, as your eyes
nearly try to pop your eyelids open.
Medium scrunches work best for long periods of REM activity, not too energetic
-- enough activity to keep you interested, not so much it pops your eyelids
open.
LONG scrunches almost immediately trigger the LEMs -- actually, the LEM: it's
one, continuous, Long Eye Movement: it brings both eyes into a long
wavelength. After they "lock upwards" towards your "inner mind's third eye"
(or whatever you wish to call it), you can "free" your mind to observe the
"movie screen" which has now been fully placed before you.

This is step 3: the "viewing screen". This is where some folk engage in what
they call "hypnogogic images". There is a bio-medical term for the light you
see, but I can't recall just now what it is. (I've forgotten.)

What separates this from "normal" to "something special" is when you
(passively) begin to observe images forming in this mind-light-area. One of
the most interesting moments I ever had was shortly before Christmas: I saw
many many people entering a room thru the front (left) door and exiting thru
the back (right) door. This all took place in a matter of seconds -- 5 to 10,
... 20 max, I'd say. It really struck me as odd that I'd actually had some
type of vision (I usually just get still images) while fully "awake" (eyes
shut, but mentally lucid / alert). Here's the good part:
Christmas day, I get a chair and stay in it: all the family and extended
family members start arriving from the front (left) door, take part, and later
that night they all left thru the back (right) door, just like in the vision.
Only what I saw in moments hypnogogically took hours to unfold in reality.
TIME is not a fixed reference!!

Let me know how your "inner eye" / upwards center mental focal point -- works
for y'all , ok? thanks! :)

Silk

carboweb

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Jan 31, 2002, 4:20:33 PM1/31/02
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How quickly do you have to go from between closing right eye and then
left? And how soon before scrunching? And how tight do you need to
scrunch?

AjAnthon


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Dick Silk

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Jan 31, 2002, 11:45:39 PM1/31/02
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In article <89b8366.02013...@posting.google.com>, carb...@yahoo.com
(carboweb) writes:

>
>How quickly do you have to go from between closing right eye and then left?

as long or as short as you feel comfortable. The technique was accidentally
discovered (by myself) while I was trying to calm a rather neurotic problem of
my own -- I was worried about "protecting" my soul against unwanted ideas / bad
karma which may try to enter my mind while I slept. (Yes, I was a touch off my
rocker, but it was based on a genuine curiosity -- how to protect one's soul,
aside from simple Christian doctrine?)

And so, I figured my right eye was my most dominant. By closing it first on a
happy thought, the left eye didn't really matter as much. IE: Left is
subordinate to right. When right says "time to shut", left follows in
obedience. When right opens, left opens in obedience. And so, the timing is
really not important. the fact that this "silly idea" actually DOES trigger
REMs is a very wonderful side effect / discovery.

> And how soon before scrunching? And how tight do you need to scrunch?

you may scrunch as soon as both eyes are shut. OR, you may wish to take a deep
breath first. makes little difference, as long as both are closed. Just don't
wait more than a few minutes or you may fall asleep before you remember to
scrunch! :)

how tight? practice with differing strengths. a light scrunch (right first,
then left, then relax right, then relax left) will work pretty quickly. a
medium scrunch has a longer REM phase afterwards. a HARD scrunch can cause
REMs so hard your eyelids pop wide open!

let me know how you get along :)

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