Naming Children After SF/Fantasy Characters
David Cowie
their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
character?
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Dorothy J Heydt
David Cowie <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
>I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>character?
Avram Davidson named his son Frodo. Bjo Trimble named
her second daughter Kathryn Arwen. My daughter used to
have a co-worker named Galadriel. There must be lots,
particularly in California.
Dorothy J. Heydt
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Peter Meilinger
>I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>character?
A friend of mine in Australia knows people who are using B'ellanna,
as in Torres from Voyager, as their newborn daughter's middle
name.
I don't really have a problem with parents going for odd middle
names, but hanging a weird first name on a kid should be grounds
for a good slapping around.
Pete
Captain Button
And giving them a wierd first name and a wierd middle name is even worse.
Always leave them an ordinary name as an out.
ObSF:
"He wanted to name us for his two heros in American history,
whereas Mother wanted to name us for her favorite artists.
This is how I was named Thomas Paine Leonardo Da Vinci Bartlett
and my twin became Patrick Henry Michelangelo Barlett.
Dad called us Tom and Pat and Mother called us Leo and Michel
and our sisters called us Useless and Double-Useless."
- _Time for the Stars_ by Robert Anson Heinlein, (c) 1956
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Dorothy J Heydt
Captain Button <but...@io.com> wrote:
>
>And giving them a wierd first name and a wierd middle name is even worse.
>
>Always leave them an ordinary name as an out.
OTOH we named our children David Ravn and Margaret
Astrid and they now go as Tristan and Meg.
John R. Campbell
David Cowie <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
> I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
> their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
> Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
> character?
A friend named his daughter Kira- after the Gelfling in Henson's
Dark Crystal, pre-dating DS9's Major Kira.
I *was* tempted to name my one son Beowulf after Niven's character
but sanity (what there is of it) prevailed (OK, OK, so my wife is
the one with common sense...).
Seriously, there are times when you want your child to not be
completely invisible, so a name of a heroic character will often
pop up. C'mon, how many Lukes are there after the first Star
Wars movies?
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> ObSF:
>
> "He wanted to name us for his two heros in American history,
> whereas Mother wanted to name us for her favorite artists.
> This is how I was named Thomas Paine Leonardo Da Vinci Bartlett
> and my twin became Patrick Henry Michelangelo Barlett.
> Dad called us Tom and Pat and Mother called us Leo and Michel
> and our sisters called us Useless and Double-Useless."
>
> - _Time for the Stars_ by Robert Anson Heinlein, (c) 1956
I used to have a co-worker named Emerson. His brother was Ralph. I don't
know if there was a third boy, but I sort of hope not.
David Bilek
>In article <pan.2002.10.19...@lineone.net>,
>David Cowie <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
>>I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>>their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>>character?
>
>Avram Davidson named his son Frodo.
Did his son punch him in the nose for it later?
It takes some chutzpah for a parent to do something like that. At
least "Arwen" and "Eowyn" are pretty as middle names. "Frodo" as a
first name borders on psychological abuse.
-David
(ok, I'm exaggerating... slightly)
Steven L. Dodds
news:pan.2002.10.19...@lineone.net...
We named our son James T. (Dodds not Kirk) and the T is for Thomas not
Tiberus. But you can still tell what our favorite show is.
Andy Leighton
Steven L. Dodds <st...@nova-optical.com> wrote:
> "David Cowie" <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2002.10.19...@lineone.net...
>> character?
>
> Tiberus. But you can still tell what our favorite show is.
My brother in law has named 3 of his 4 children after Star Trek characters.
First born was Kirk, second was a girl who struck lucky, the third was called
Jean-Luc and the final one has Benjamin Sisko (yes Sisko as a middle name).
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Crimso
> I've run into people at cons named Arwen.
>
> Brenda
>
As was said before, at least "Arwen" is a pretty name and not too odd. I
know a woman at work who named her daughter "Alia" after the character in
Dune. Again, not too odd (unless you know about the character in the
books, in that case it's disturbing).
Speaking of disturbing, I wonder if anyone would name their child
"Hannibal".
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Da zeühl sun kobaia.
David Cowie
> I've run into people at cons named Arwen.
>
Did their parents call them Arwen, or did they choose the name for
themselves?
Taki Kogoma
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>"David Cowie" <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote in message
>news:pan.2002.10.19...@lineone.net...
>> I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>> their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>> Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>> character?
>
>Tiberus.
Ah. Homange to William Thomas Riker, no doubt. ;-)
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Graham Woodland
>"Brenda W. Clough" <clo...@erols.com> wrote on 19 Oct 2002:
>
>> I've run into people at cons named Arwen.
>>
>> Brenda
>>
>
>As was said before, at least "Arwen" is a pretty name and not too odd.
Oh, agreed. It sounds very like one of the better Welsh girl's names,
probably for sufficient reason.
>I
>know a woman at work who named her daughter "Alia" after the character
>in Dune. Again, not too odd (unless you know about the character in
the books, in that case it's disturbing).
>
Mmm, yes. Though I believe it is an Arabic name which, like many such,
has spread across a pretty wide portion of the globe. I suspect Herbert
chose it partly for that association and partly as an apt play on Latin
'alius' (other, as in alien) -- and that, indeed, you have to have read
_Dune_ to see anything really odd in it.
>Speaking of disturbing, I wonder if anyone would name their child
>"Hannibal".
>
Well, some people used to. I wonder how many will any more, though.
This could be kind of the opposite effect: the Character That Un-Names
The Child. OTOH, given Nabokov's rather alarming failure to kill
'Lolita' deader than the dodo, it's most likely that 'Hannibal' won't
even take a significant dent. What will be really disturbing will be if
it now becomes *more* popular than hitherto...
Cheers,
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Dorothy J Heydt
Crimso <crimsonking*@nycmail.com> wrote:
>
>Speaking of disturbing, I wonder if anyone would name their child
>"Hannibal".
Possibly, but if they did it's probably after the
Carthaginian general.
>Dros da würdin de unsai steuhn da hündin.
>Da zeühl sun kobaia.
Source? Translation?
Thomas Lindgren
David Bilek <dbi...@attbi.com> writes:
At least it wasn't Pippin. Or Gollum. (Actually, don't the movie
depictions of Gollum look a bit like evil babies?)
Best,
Thomas
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Green Isaac
>>Dros da würdin de unsai steuhn da hündin.
>>Da zeühl sun kobaia.
>Source? Translation?
The source is Magma, the French avant-rock band responsible for the whole
Kobaďa/Theusz Hamtaahk mythos. I'd go into it here, but it's really too long
and involved to do so. I believe the quote is originally from the 1973 album
_Mekanďk Destrutkďw Kommandöh_. As for what it means, well, the only thing like
a translation in the liner notes is in French, and since I don't speak French,
I have to take it on faith that, "It means whatever Christian Vander (Magma's
drummer, conceptualist and main composer) wants it to mean."
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
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David Cowie
>
>>Dros da würdin de unsai steuhn da hündin.
>>Da zeühl sun kobaia.
> Source? Translation?
>
Googling on "kobaia" leads one to
http://perso.respublica.fr/zwortz67/English/Kobaia_History/kobaia_history.html
The 1970's French rock group Magma had a personal mythology about the
planet Kobaia, which had its own language and everything. I believe they
even sang in Kobaian.
A bit more work gives this page:
http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~cmaluend/magmadic.html
which gives the translation:
Dros da würdin de unsai steuhn da hündin.
from the nothingness of [the] past towards the infinite.
Da zeühl sun kobaia.
The celestial music is eternal.
It helped that I had already heard about Magma, so I knew what to google
on.
Richard Horton
<david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
>I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>character?
There was a fairly prominent figure skater a few years back named
Amber Corwin. I assume the last name was already there, and I have no
idea if her parents had any idea that the combined name would look
very interesting to Zelazny fans.
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Mark Blunden
> I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
> their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
> Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
> character?
A few years ago, while on a walk with my parents and their german shepherds,
we came upon a couple walking their dog along a trail crossing our own.
I'm not sure what the breed was (it may well have been a mongrel), but it
had tufty beige-white hair, with brown spots, which were especially
noticeable around the face, along with rather prominent tufts. It wasn't an
ugly dog, but not pretty by any means, though friendly enough.
After saying hello to the dog, I asked its owners what it was called.
"Neelix", they replied. My parents looked puzzled, but I immediately spotted
the startling resemblance, and said "ah - Star Trek fans?" They confirmed
it.
We didn't stay long to chat. They seemed nice enough, but then again, they
were Voyager fans.
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Joyce Reynolds-Ward
Heydt) wrote:
snip
>Avram Davidson named his son Frodo. Bjo Trimble named
>her second daughter Kathryn Arwen. My daughter used to
>have a co-worker named Galadriel. There must be lots,
>particularly in California.
I've heard rumors of a kid here in Portland named Conan Rambo.
jrw
Joyce Reynolds-Ward
wrote:
snip
>My brother in law has named 3 of his 4 children after Star Trek characters.
>First born was Kirk, second was a girl who struck lucky, the third was called
>Jean-Luc and the final one has Benjamin Sisko (yes Sisko as a middle name).
I think the ultimate I encountered in bad names was a non-SF one.
The family's last name was Bruce.
The first son had Bruce for a first name, and Bruce for a middle name.
And yes, the father was a raving jerk (didn't know the mother, she got
herself killed by a horse before we moved in next door to them). Kid
was an aggressive and nasty sort.
jrw
Crimso
>
> Dros da würdin de unsai steuhn da hündin.
> from the nothingness of [the] past towards the infinite.
> Da zeühl sun kobaia.
> The celestial music is eternal.
>
Excellent!
--
Dros da würdin de unsai steuhn da hündin.
Da zeühl sun kobaia.
What he said.
Ross TenEyck
> I *was* tempted to name my one son Beowulf after Niven's character
> but sanity (what there is of it) prevailed (OK, OK, so my wife is
> the one with common sense...).
I have a cousin named Grendel.
Now, you might perhaps think that this would be too obscure
a reference for elementary school kids to pick up on; as it
happens, you would be mistaken. While my cousin had to endure
years of teasing for having a monster's name, in some way I
take comfort in the fact that our youth have at least a minimal
knowledge of literature.
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Joseph T Major
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 19:34:58 GMT, Andy Leighton <an...@azaal.plus.com>
wrote:
snipMy brother in law has named 3 of his 4 children after Star Trek characters.
First born was Kirk, second was a girl who struck lucky, the third was called
Jean-Luc and the final one has Benjamin Sisko (yes Sisko as a middle name).
I think the ultimate I encountered in bad names was a non-SF one.
The family's last name was Bruce.
The first son had Bruce for a first name, and Bruce for a middle name.
(I have two cousins who reached O-4 in the army or AAF. Don't know if either of them read Heller.)
Joseph T Major
Joseph T Major
> I've run into people at cons named Arwen.
>
> Brenda
>
I have a cousin out West whose name is Arwen Birdie.
And another named his son Jesse Strider.
And a friend here has the middle name of Conan.
Joseph T Major
Joseph T Major
>"Captain Button" <but...@io.com> wrote in message
>news:B9D715EB9...@pm3-2-user-9.cvl.hom.net...
>
>>ObSF:
>>
>>"He wanted to name us for his two heros in American history,
>>whereas Mother wanted to name us for her favorite artists.
>>This is how I was named Thomas Paine Leonardo Da Vinci Bartlett
>>and my twin became Patrick Henry Michelangelo Barlett.
>>Dad called us Tom and Pat and Mother called us Leo and Michel
>>and our sisters called us Useless and Double-Useless."
>>
>> - _Time for the Stars_ by Robert Anson Heinlein, (c) 195
>>
>
>I used to have a co-worker named Emerson. His brother was Ralph. I don't
>know if there was a third boy, but I sort of hope not.
>
Carlos the terrorist is named Ilich Ramirez Sanchez. His brother
got a job in the Venezuelan government recently. His name is Lenin
Ramirez Sanchez. And yes, they have a brother Vladimir. You can
probably guess that Daddy's politics were just a trifle on the pinkish side.
Joseph T Major
>
Tetsubo
> I think the ultimate I encountered in bad names was a non-SF one.
>
> The family's last name was Bruce.
>
> The first son had Bruce for a first name, and Bruce for a middle name.
>
> And yes, the father was a raving jerk (didn't know the mother, she got
> herself killed by a horse before we moved in next door to them). Kid
> was an aggressive and nasty sort.
>
> jrw
My mother knew a short order cook in the early 60's named Mitchell Mitchell
Mitchell. Though he was a nice guy.
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Louann Miller
>I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>character?
I understand that two of Stephen Brust's kids are named Corwin and
Aliera.
My son narrowly escaped being named Miles. I argued that it was a
short, easily spelled, masculine-sounding name that wouldn't also
belong to six other kids in his first grade class. Spouse argued that
his initials would be M&M. But I wouldn't even have suggested
something overtly fannish like Gandalf or Xavier.
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Miguel Farah F.
>"Brenda W. Clough" <clo...@erols.com> wrote on 19 Oct 2002:
>
>> I've run into people at cons named Arwen.
>>
>> Brenda
>>
>
>As was said before, at least "Arwen" is a pretty name and not too odd. I
>know a woman at work who named her daughter "Alia" after the character in
>Dune. Again, not too odd (unless you know about the character in the
>books, in that case it's disturbing).
>
>Speaking of disturbing, I wonder if anyone would name their child
>"Hannibal".
It's actually a "proper" name in spanish, barely used, but valid.
Fred Galvin
> In article <aosfbf$9ul$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>,
> Crimso <crimsonking*@nycmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Speaking of disturbing, I wonder if anyone would name their child
> >"Hannibal".
>
> Possibly, but if they did it's probably after the
> Carthaginian general.
Damn it, the only other Hannibal I can think of is Lincoln's 1860
running mate. *Now* what famous sf classic have I forgotten?
Brenda W. Clough
I always associate the name with Samuel Clemens.
Peter Meilinger
>Fred Galvin wrote:
>>On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>"Hannibal".
>>>>
>>>Possibly, but if they did it's probably after the
>>>Carthaginian general.
>>
>>Damn it, the only other Hannibal I can think of is Lincoln's 1860
>>running mate. *Now* what famous sf classic have I forgotten?
>I always associate the name with Samuel Clemens.
It's The A-Team for me.
No, I'm not proud of that fact.
Pete
Mike Schilling
"Brenda W. Clough" <clo...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3DB20C5C...@erols.com...
> Fred Galvin wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> >
> >>In article <aosfbf$9ul$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>,
> >>Crimso <crimsonking*@nycmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Speaking of disturbing, I wonder if anyone would name their child
> >>>"Hannibal".
> >>>
> >>Possibly, but if they did it's probably after the
> >>Carthaginian general.
> >>
> >
> >Damn it, the only other Hannibal I can think of is Lincoln's 1860
> >running mate. *Now* what famous sf classic have I forgotten?
> >
>
> I always associate the name with Samuel Clemens.
>
Then the kid's middle name should be Mo :-)
Dorothy J Heydt
Not sf, there's a series of horror stories and movies
about a guy named Hannibal Lector who is, to use
meiosis, a real creep.
Corbell5571
> but sanity (what there is of it) prevailed (OK, OK, so my wife is
> the one with common sense...).
>
> completely invisible, so a name of a heroic character will often
> pop up. C'mon, how many Lukes are there after the first Star
> Wars movies?
There is a District Attorney in some county in northern Michigan named
Luke Skywalker. When I first heard about him (in 1999) I actually
called the county and asked if it were true. It was. However, I am
pretty sure it is not his original name. People do not become DA's at
the age of 22!
Kay Archer
> >The first son had Bruce for a first name, and Bruce for a middle name.
> >
> Oh goodie, something besides Major Major Major!
At one time (ca. 1975) the Marines had both Major Major and Major Minor
assigned to the Pentagon. This was an item in Leatherneck Magazine (and I
still remember it).
David Bilek
Emma Pease
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 18:08:53 +0000, "David Cowie"
><david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
>>I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>>their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>>character?
>
> I understand that two of Stephen Brust's kids are named Corwin and
> Aliera.
>
> My son narrowly escaped being named Miles. I argued that it was a
> short, easily spelled, masculine-sounding name that wouldn't also
> belong to six other kids in his first grade class. Spouse argued that
> his initials would be M&M. But I wouldn't even have suggested
> something overtly fannish like Gandalf or Xavier.
I believe Miles is also established name.
Some names do seem to move from literature to real life. I believe
Wendy and Lorna are two. Arwen might (who knows what the movies will
do).
Emma
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Catherine Hampton
<clo...@erols.com> wrote:
>I've run into people at cons named Arwen.
On their birth certificates, or just their Con badges?
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Kerry J. Renaissance-McAdams
wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 18:08:53 +0000, "David Cowie"
><david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
>
>>I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>>their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>>character?
>
>I understand that two of Stephen Brust's kids are named Corwin and
>Aliera.
>
>My son narrowly escaped being named Miles. I argued that it was a
>short, easily spelled, masculine-sounding name that wouldn't also
>belong to six other kids in his first grade class. Spouse argued that
>his initials would be M&M. But I wouldn't even have suggested
>something overtly fannish like Gandalf or Xavier.
My son _is_ named Miles, for the Vorkosigan. My reasoning was
similiar to yours, when pressed for reasons. It's a short name, not
likely to get _too_ twisted, it's not an overtly SF name. Very
doable, all the way around. He is more likely to get teased over his
initials -- middle name is George, last name McAdams, so he's MGM.
But overall we tried to keep his name interesting but not noticeably
unusual. I hear much more references to "Miles Standish" than "Miles
Vorkosigan".
-- Kerry J. Renaissance-McAdams
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John M. Gamble
In another bulletin board service, long ago, before AOL engulfed it all,
one of the regulars mentioned that she had a daughter named Romana.
Which actually sounds nice and not too strange. Just imagine if she
had named her daughter after the character's full name, though.
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from the Library of Congress.
Medievalbk
>assigned to the Pentagon. This was an item in Leatherneck Magazine (and I
>still remember it).
I never read it. I blame it on Major Oversight.
Brenda W. Clough
>On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 16:23:19 -0400, "Brenda W. Clough"
><clo...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>>I've run into people at cons named Arwen.
>>
>
>On their birth certificates, or just their Con badges?
>
As I recall, it was on a business card.
Fred Galvin
> In article <021019194221...@gandalf.math.ukans.edu>,
> Fred Galvin <gal...@math.ukans.edu> wrote:
> >On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> >
> >> In article <aosfbf$9ul$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>,
> >> Crimso <crimsonking*@nycmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Speaking of disturbing, I wonder if anyone would name their child
> >> >"Hannibal".
> >>
> >> Possibly, but if they did it's probably after the
> >> Carthaginian general.
> >
> >Damn it, the only other Hannibal I can think of is Lincoln's 1860
> >running mate. *Now* what famous sf classic have I forgotten?
>
> Not sf, there's a series of horror stories and movies
> about a guy named Hannibal Lector
Which I'm sure I never read, saw, or heard of. That's a relief!
Thanks!
> who is, to use meiosis, a real creep.
And I just learned a new word; didn't know "meiosis" meant anything
outside of biology. Thanks again!
Mary K. Kuhner
>I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>character?
I have met an Eowyn and an Arwen. But the one I recall most
vividly was being introduced to little Alia, about four. I
said "Huntress of a thousand worlds!" and her father beamed and
said "Yes, exactly, isn't it a pretty name?"
I think giving it as a *middle* name is quite reasonable; it's
easy to dodge one's middle name.
Mary Kuhner mkku...@eskimo.com
Laurie Brooke Adams (Mother Mastiff)
>
> The family's last name was Bruce.
>
> The first son had Bruce for a first name, and Bruce for a middle name.
>
> And yes, the father was a raving jerk (didn't know the mother, she got
> herself killed by a horse before we moved in next door to them). Kid
> was an aggressive and nasty sort.
Someone non-military who loved the name in Catch-21?
:
:
:
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>David Cowie <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
>>I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
>>their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
>>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>>character?
>
>A friend of mine in Australia knows people who are using B'ellanna,
>as in Torres from Voyager, as their newborn daughter's middle
>name.
Recent article about a woman's daughter: Jadzia.
>I don't really have a problem with parents going for odd middle
>names, but hanging a weird first name on a kid should be grounds
>for a good slapping around.
>
>Pete
Fire3Sky
>vividly was being introduced to little Alia, about four. I
>said "Huntress of a thousand worlds!" and her father beamed and
>said "Yes, exactly, isn't it a pretty name?"
What book is 'Alia' from?
I think the danger of being an SF fan is that the names start to sound *normal*
to us. After watching years of Star Trek, I think Jadzia, Kira, Seven and
B'Ellana are really pretty names, with my favorite being 'Seven'. But just
because 'Seven' sounds like a normal name to me, after hearing it a thousand
times, that doesn't mean it is a great name for a kid.
If I ever have kids, I'll probably give them a normal first name and an exotic
middle name.
Fire3Sky
Keith Morrison
>>My son narrowly escaped being named Miles. I argued that it was a
>>short, easily spelled, masculine-sounding name that wouldn't also
>>belong to six other kids in his first grade class. Spouse argued that
>>his initials would be M&M. But I wouldn't even have suggested
>>something overtly fannish like Gandalf or Xavier.
>
> I believe Miles is also established name.
I should think so. I grew up beside a guy named Miles, and at
31 he predates Ms Bujold's character fairly significantly.
--
Keith
Fred Galvin
> In article <drt3ru8op36udkgav...@4ax.com>, Louann Miller wrote:
> > My son narrowly escaped being named Miles. I argued that it was a
> > short, easily spelled, masculine-sounding name that wouldn't also
> > belong to six other kids in his first grade class. Spouse argued that
> > his initials would be M&M. But I wouldn't even have suggested
> > something overtly fannish like Gandalf or Xavier.
>
> I believe Miles is also established name.
Of course it is. When I was a kid, the Attorney-General of Minnesota
was a guy named Miles Lord. But wtf is fannish about a common ordinary
name like Xavier?
Dan Goodman
@polarnet.ca:
Miles is Latin for "soldier", I believe.
Mary K. Kuhner
>Mary Kuhner wrote:
>>But the one I recall most
>>vividly was being introduced to little Alia, about four. I
>>said "Huntress of a thousand worlds!" and her father beamed and
>>said "Yes, exactly, isn't it a pretty name?"
>What book is 'Alia' from?
_Dune_.
She was exposed to mind-altering drugs in the womb, and was born
remembering everything any of her ancestors had experienced.
(Should've been only female ancestors, but for reasons I no
longer recall, it wasn't.) This made her a truly creepy
not-really-a-child, which is why it struck me as an odd
choice of name.
Mary Kuhner mkku...@eskimo.com
jere7my tho?rpe
fire...@aol.com (Fire3Sky) wrote:
> I think the danger of being an SF fan is that the names start to sound
> *normal*
> to us. After watching years of Star Trek, I think Jadzia, Kira, Seven and
> B'Ellana are really pretty names,
Kira _is_ a really pretty name, and a perfectly legitimate one. I
have a friend named Kira who predates DS9 by fifteen years or so.
----j7y
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Dorothy J Heydt
Fire3Sky <fire...@aol.com> wrote:
>>But the one I recall most
>>vividly was being introduced to little Alia, about four. I
>>said "Huntress of a thousand worlds!" and her father beamed and
>>said "Yes, exactly, isn't it a pretty name?"
>
>What book is 'Alia' from?
Herbert's _Dune_ et seqq.
She was the kid who was fed lots of mystic juju in utero
(accidentally) and was effectively born a Wise Old Grandmother.
Dorothy J Heydt
Yes; hence "military" and so on. The earliest example
of the name in SF I know of is Ralph Milne Farley's _The
Radio Man_ (1925 maybe?) whose hero was named Miles,
ummmm, I think maybe Miles Cabot.
jere7my tho?rpe
Fred Galvin <gal...@math.ukans.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > Not sf, there's a series of horror stories and movies
> > about a guy named Hannibal Lector
> Which I'm sure I never read, saw, or heard of. That's a relief!
> Thanks!
Hm. Have you really never heard of _The Silence of the Lambs_? It
swept the 1992 Oscars (Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor - Anthony
Hopkins, Best Actress - Jodi Foster, Best Adapted Screenplay), and won
BAFTA awards, Golden Globes, etc. as well. Made rather a splash when it
came out.
The current film _Red Dragon_, #1 in America at the moment,
features Mr. Lecter as well.
Narmer
"Mike Schilling" <mscotts...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Captain Button" <but...@io.com> wrote in message
> news:B9D715EB9...@pm3-2-user-9.cvl.hom.net...
>
> > ObSF:
> >
> > "He wanted to name us for his two heros in American history,
> > whereas Mother wanted to name us for her favorite artists.
> > This is how I was named Thomas Paine Leonardo Da Vinci Bartlett
> > and my twin became Patrick Henry Michelangelo Barlett.
> > Dad called us Tom and Pat and Mother called us Leo and Michel
> > and our sisters called us Useless and Double-Useless."
> >
> > - _Time for the Stars_ by Robert Anson Heinlein, (c) 1956
>
>
> I used to have a co-worker named Emerson. His brother was Ralph. I don't
> know if there was a third boy, but I sort of hope not.
>
>
He must be in hiding.
Narmer
"David Cowie" <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2002.10.19...@lineone.net...
> I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
> their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
> Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
> character?
>
> David Cowie david_cowie at lineone dot net
>
> So high, so low, so many things to know.
>
I know this doesn't really count but I know a lady who allowed her husband
to choose their daughters name about twenty years ago. Right around the
time the movie Sheena (of the jungle or whatever it was called) came out.
So Sheena it was.
Urban Fredriksson
>>But the one I recall most
>>vividly was being introduced to little Alia, about four. I
>>said "Huntress of a thousand worlds!" and her father beamed and
>>said "Yes, exactly, isn't it a pretty name?"
>What book is 'Alia' from?
This seems to be from Edward Llewellyn's _Fugitive in
Transit_. Her full name was Ruth Thalia Adams as I recall.
>I think the danger of being an SF fan is that the names start to sound *normal*
>to us. After watching years of Star Trek, I think Jadzia, Kira, Seven and
>B'Ellana are really pretty names, with my favorite being 'Seven'.
Isn't Kira just an alternative spelling of Kyra?
Me, I've got two ferrets named after Star Trek starships,
as are all their siblings. But I don't call them that.
--
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Mark Reichert
> It takes some chutzpah for a parent to do something like that. At
> least "Arwen" and "Eowyn" are pretty as middle names. "Frodo" as a
> first name borders on psychological abuse.
I think it beats Moon Unit or Dweezel.<g>
Justin Bacon
>There is a District Attorney in some county in northern Michigan named
>Luke Skywalker. When I first heard about him (in 1999) I actually
>called the county and asked if it were true. It was. However, I am
>pretty sure it is not his original name. People do not become DA's at
>the age of 22!
You're assuming that he wasn't named Luke Skywalker before the movies came out.
That isn't a safe assumption. It's not like either of those names were unheard
of before the movies.
Justin Bacon
tria...@aol.com
Mark Reichert
> At one time (ca. 1975) the Marines had both Major Major and Major Minor
> assigned to the Pentagon. This was an item in Leatherneck Magazine (and I
> still remember it).
So they were the Major and the Minor Majors. <g, d, & r>
Mark Reichert
> character?
One of Asimov's biographies mentions a couple named Calvin naming
their daughter Susan, because for one thing, she was born in the year
the character was supposed to have been born in.
David Bilek
I know a girl named "Seven". She significantly predates the Star Trek
character, though.
-David
Frenchy
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 21:33:30 +0000, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>
> >
> >>Dros da würdin de unsai steuhn da hündin.
> >>Da zeühl sun kobaia.
> > Source? Translation?
> >
> Googling on "kobaia" leads one to
> http://perso.respublica.fr/zwortz67/English/Kobaia_History/kobaia_history.html
> The 1970's French rock group Magma had a personal mythology about the
> planet Kobaia, which had its own language and everything. I believe they
> even sang in Kobaian.
It certainly sounds more Kobaian than French. It also has a bit of
German flavor in its sonority... Interesting, anyhow.
Getting back to subject, a French author I know named is son Elric.
What can I tell, he's an old role-playing gamer and also author of
some French RPG's...
Frenchy
Jeanette
> I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
> their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
> character?
>
> David Cowie david_cowie at lineone dot net
>
moment named Frodo, Bilbo etc. Three or four years ago, there were lots of
kittens named Mulder, Scully, Fox and Dana.
Jeanette
Jeanette
Justin Bacon <tria...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20021020035613...@mb-cm.aol.com...
I've always suspected that George Lucas had a crossed wire when he made his
hero's name (Luke Skywalker), so similar to a name given to Satan (Lucifer
Morningstar).
Jeanette
Graham Woodland
>In article <3DB1BF37...@erols.com>,>In another bulletin board service, long ago, before AOL engulfed it all,
>one of the regulars mentioned that she had a daughter named Romana.
>
>Which actually sounds nice and not too strange. Just imagine if she
>had named her daughter after the character's full name, though.
>
The previously very rare name "Tegan" seems to have become merely rare
in the UK, now that those who were kids for the relevant Dr Who series
are old enough to be having kids of their own. (Personal observation
from being at school among the first generation, then working in one
during the second.)
However, I have not heard of anyone's bestowing the contemporary and
rather lovely companion-name "Nyssa" on any entity other than a dog.
Which seems more than a bit ungallant.
Cheers,
--
Gray
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- William Goldman, _The Princess Bride_.
Fire3Sky
>character, though.
Do people constantly comment on her name? I love the name 'Seven', but I'd be
afraid to name a child that, because I wouldn't want them to go through life
with every person they met saying "why are you named Seven"? I also love the
names 'Guinevere" and "Merlin", but I think those names might be a burden for a
kid.
Fire3Sky
Louann Miller
Mastiff\)" <color...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> I think the ultimate I encountered in bad names was a non-SF one.
>>
>> The family's last name was Bruce.
>>
>> The first son had Bruce for a first name, and Bruce for a middle name.
>>
>> And yes, the father was a raving jerk (didn't know the mother, she got
>> herself killed by a horse before we moved in next door to them). Kid
>> was an aggressive and nasty sort.
They missed a perfectly good opportunity to name the kid Wayne Bruce,
if they wanted to be cute.
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David Goldfarb
David Cowie <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote:
>Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
>character?
Someone's already mentioned that Steven Brust named his daughter Aliera
after a character in his own novels. Lawrence Watt-Evans did the same
thing, naming one of his daughters Kyrith.
I love both men's books, and from what I know of them they seem like
excellent fellows, but I still think there's something about that that's
deeply weird.
--
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Mark Blunden
> In article <20021020022534...@mb-dd.aol.com>,
> fire...@aol.com (Fire3Sky) wrote:
>
>> I think the danger of being an SF fan is that the names start to
>> sound *normal*
>> to us. After watching years of Star Trek, I think Jadzia, Kira,
>> Seven and B'Ellana are really pretty names,
>
> Kira _is_ a really pretty name, and a perfectly legitimate one.
> I have a friend named Kira who predates DS9 by fifteen years or so.
If I were going to name a child after the Major, I wouldn't use Kira
anyway - it's her surname, afterall. Nerys, on the other hand, is a very
pleasant-sounding name.
--
Mark.
* Yes! Yes, I would do it!
boojumhunter
David Bilek wrote:
>
> I know a girl named "Seven". She significantly predates the Star Trek
> character, though.
>
> -David
I have a great friend whi changed his name to III
His ongoing story about how the guvvernment has dealt with this is a
riot... fascinating story... now if we can only get him to write it
up... he promises that the closing line will be "I am III, III at last!"
Cheers
>
Dave Conrad
> I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
> their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
> Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
> character?
>
>
A good friend of mine named his son Theron, after a character in
Jordan's ever expaning series. I haven't read it yet, myself, hoping to
swallow it all in one looooong shot, so I only have to read it once.
I named my children after friends and loved ones. They each have quite
the handful of names to choose from when they get older.
--
Dave C. (Plug & Play)
iN*T*x
"To break the rules is to break the spell" - C. Lasch
Member, Team AWWAJALOOM (http://www.theferrett.com/theteam.htm)
John R. Campbell
Farber, so his daughter's name is Audrey, but everyone knows
here as Nancy...
--
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John R. Campbell
Heck, there was a story about one fellow who constantly got
grief for his name, no one thought it was for real. IIRC he
lives in Missouri and his *real* name is Homer Simpson.
OK, if I saw that on a charge card I'd probably be stupid enough
to snicker...
Joseph T Major
Brenda W. Clough <clo...@erols.com> wrote:
I pity the fool!Fred Galvin wrote:On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:"Hannibal".Possibly, but if they did it's probably after the
Carthaginian general.Damn it, the only other Hannibal I can think of is Lincoln's 1860
running mate. *Now* what famous sf classic have I forgotten?I always associate the name with Samuel Clemens.
It's The A-Team for me.
No, I'm not proud of that fact.
Pete
Joseph T Major
--
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-- Cyril Q. Kornbluth
Joseph T Major
Is this anything like the Peanuts character named 5?
His name was just the number 5 and he explained to a even more
put-upon than usual Charlie Brown how his father was doing it as a
statement about computers and bureaucracy.
Joseph T Major
David Cowie <david_co...@lineone.net> wrote in message
I know a couple (names withheld to protect the guilty) who have given
their new daughter Eowyn as a middle name.
Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
character?
--
David Cowie david_cowie at lineone dot netNo people, but I've noticed that there are lots of kittens around at the
moment named Frodo, Bilbo etc. Three or four years ago, there were lots of
kittens named Mulder, Scully, Fox and Dana.
Joseph T Major
--
Friday was the first anniversary of the death of my old cat Sulla.
David Tate
> But I wouldn't even have suggested
> something overtly fannish like Gandalf or Xavier.
'Xavier' is fannish? I must have missed that one.
Of course, the last 2 Xaviers I knew were both French, so it may be
rather more current Over There than in the US.
David Tate
David Tate
> Yes; hence "military" and so on. The earliest example
> of the name in SF I know of is Ralph Milne Farley's _The
> Radio Man_ (1925 maybe?) whose hero was named Miles,
> ummmm, I think maybe Miles Cabot.
Miles *Standish* Cabot, in fact.
David Tate
Dorothy J Heydt
Jeanette <ver...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've always suspected that George Lucas had a crossed wire when he made his
>hero's name (Luke Skywalker), so similar to a name given to Satan (Lucifer
>Morningstar).
In the first draft he was Luke Starkiller.
Dorothy J. Heydt
Albany, California
djh...@kithrup.com
http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt
Dorothy J Heydt
John R. Campbell <so...@penrij.uucp.jtan.com> wrote:
> And then there was a fellow I worked with who's last name was
> Farber, so his daughter's name is Audrey, but everyone knows
> here as Nancy...
[*]
Dorothy J Heydt
Graham Woodland <gr...@quilpole.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>However, I have not heard of anyone's bestowing the contemporary and
>rather lovely companion-name "Nyssa" on any entity other than a dog.
Or a cat, such as one of the cats of a friend of my
daughter's.
James Nicoll
majority of Xaviers I have heard about were FXes, after the saint.
--
"Frankly, Captain, I feel interstellar diplomacy is out of our
depth."
"Ah, hence the nuclear weapons."
David Tate
> Anyone know of anyone else who was named after an SF or fantasy
> character?
I've always wondered about Retief Goosen, the South African golfer.
He was born in 1969, which would be just about right...
David Tate
David Cowie
>
> If I were going to name a child after the Major, I wouldn't use Kira
> anyway - it's her surname, afterall. Nerys, on the other hand, is a very
> pleasant-sounding name.
There is a British actress called Nerys Hughes.
--
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So high, so low, so many things to know.
David Cowie
>
> I know this doesn't really count but I know a lady who allowed her husband
> to choose their daughters name about twenty years ago. Right around the
> time the movie Sheena (of the jungle or whatever it was called) came out.
>
> So Sheena it was.
Wasn't this about the time that the pop singer Sheena Easton had her 15
minutes of fame?
Graham Woodland
>In article <kzHd$GAaFo...@quilpole.demon.co.uk>,
>Graham Woodland <gr...@quilpole.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>However, I have not heard of anyone's bestowing the contemporary and
>>rather lovely companion-name "Nyssa" on any entity other than a dog.
>
>Or a cat, such as one of the cats of a friend of my
>daughter's.
>
sound of it suits a cat much better, to my ear anyway. Good for her!
Dorothy J Heydt
Your memory surpasses mine and I'll take your word for
it. Gosh that was a dumb book, I must have been eight
when I read it.
James the Lurker
>Do people constantly comment on her name? I love the name 'Seven', but I'd be
>afraid to name a child that, because I wouldn't want them to go through life
>with every person they met saying "why are you named Seven"? I also love the
>names 'Guinevere" and "Merlin", but I think those names might be a burden for a
>kid.
Guinevere wouldn't be a problem. She'd probably just end up being
"Gwen" or "Jen". Hopefully, it'd be "Gwen". There's more Jen's out
there, and I think "Gwen" is prettier.
--James
David Cowie
[Hannibal]
>
> I always associate the name with Samuel Clemens.
>
> Brenda
Not Hannibal Hayes and Wossname "Kid" Curry from the Western TV series
_Alias Smith and Jones_?
Jeanette
> On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 13:03:32 +0100, Mark Blunden wrote:
>
> >
> > If I were going to name a child after the Major, I wouldn't use Kira
> > anyway - it's her surname, afterall. Nerys, on the other hand, is a very
> > pleasant-sounding name.
>
> There is a British actress called Nerys Hughes.
>
Jeanette
Del Cotter
jere7my tho?rpe <j7y@swil*spamfilter*.org> said:
> fire...@aol.com (Fire3Sky) wrote:
>> I think the danger of being an SF fan is that the names start to sound
>> to us. After watching years of Star Trek, I think Jadzia, Kira, Seven and
>> B'Ellana are really pretty names,
>
> Kira _is_ a really pretty name, and a perfectly legitimate one. I
>have a friend named Kira who predates DS9 by fifteen years or so.
Ciara (pronounced 'Keira') is an Irish girl's name, the feminine
equivalent of Ciaran ('Keiran').
Kiran is an Indian girl's name, and quite common in England because it
sounds culture-neutral (and means 'pretty', IIRC). I used to know three
Kirans at once at one time, two of them in the same small team as me,
and one of those my (and the other Kiran's) acting manager. That was
confusing.
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Del Cotter
Graham Woodland <gr...@quilpole.demon.co.uk> said:
>Crimso wrote
>>"Brenda W. Clough" <clo...@erols.com> wrote:
>>> I've run into people at cons named Arwen.
>>
>>As was said before, at least "Arwen" is a pretty name and not too odd.
>
>Oh, agreed. It sounds very like one of the better Welsh girl's names,
>probably for sufficient reason.
Yes, because it is, like its variant Arwenna and its male equivalent
Arwyn. See Heini Gruffudd's book on the subject [1]. I don't know if
he was working in Australia when he wrote it, but he's at the University
of Swansea now.
I've seen several Welsh instances of Arwen, including, bizarrely, a
couple of male ones, as a middle name at least.
--
. . . . Del Cotter d...@branta.demon.co.uk . . . .
[1] Heini Gruffudd, _Welsh Names for Children_, New South Wales Univ Press
(1995)
Fred Galvin
> In article <021020002752...@gandalf.math.ukans.edu>,
> Fred Galvin <gal...@math.ukans.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> > > Not sf, there's a series of horror stories and movies
> > > about a guy named Hannibal Lector
>
> > Which I'm sure I never read, saw, or heard of. That's a relief!
> > Thanks!
>
> Hm. Have you really never heard of _The Silence of the Lambs_? It
> swept the 1992 Oscars (Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor - Anthony
> Hopkins, Best Actress - Jodi Foster, Best Adapted Screenplay), and won
> BAFTA awards, Golden Globes, etc. as well. Made rather a splash when it
> came out.
The title sounds familiar. Just because I've *heard* of it wouldn't be
a reason to know the name of the characters.
> The current film _Red Dragon_, #1 in America at the moment,
> features Mr. Lecter as well.
I'm sure I never heard of that one.
Captain Button
jdni...@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>In article <9d67e55e.02102...@posting.google.com>,
>David Tate <dt...@ida.org> wrote:
>>Louann Miller <loua...@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:<drt3ru8op36udkgav...@4ax.com>...
>>
>>> But I wouldn't even have suggested
>>> something overtly fannish like Gandalf or Xavier.
>>
>>'Xavier' is fannish? I must have missed that one.
>>
>>Of course, the last 2 Xaviers I knew were both French, so it may be
>>rather more current Over There than in the US.
>
> Isn't there usually a 'Francis' in front of the Xavier? The
>majority of Xaviers I have heard about were FXes, after the saint.
The only SF/F Xavier I can think of is Professor Charles Xavier, rich man,
mutant, telepath, and founder of the X-Men and The New Mutants in Marvel
Comics.
But that was his last name, and I may not be spelling it right.
Of course, over in the dirty magazines, there is Xavier Hollander "The
Happy Hooker".
But I'm not sure of the exact spelling there either.
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David Cowie
>
> Some names do seem to move from literature to real life. I believe
> Wendy and Lorna are two. Arwen might (who knows what the movies will
> do).
Vanessa is another such - invented by Jonathan Swift IIRC. (But sadly
not in _Gulliver's Travels_, which would have brought us back to SF/F)