people allergic to me - quite long, but please help!
James Hop
probably ever read, and please try to keep an open mind. Well here
goes.
As the title says, people honestly do seem to be allergic to me, or
more specifically to my sweat. Something that is more strange, is
that this defies most of the rules set out for allergies, for example;
i reckon that it effects about 90% upwards of people, effects the
majority of people on first contact, but some (few) people may not be
allergic to me for months, and then slowly get worse and worse
symptons.
Symtons include, rashes, sneezing, severe coughing, runny noses, itchy
eyes etc and possibly one severe case of someone fainting. And this
isn't an allergy where people have to be in direct contact with me,
there seems to be a good 20-30m circumfrance around me, which
progresively gets worse the nearer they are to me.
It's also worth noting that i believe i am allergic to myself, i
constantly have mucus in my throat and nasal passages, i have quite a
few rashes all over my body, which mostly occurs on my thighs, upper
arms, chest, and a bit around the side of my stomach. I also suffer
from occasional sneezing, and itchy eyes, which usually occurs when i
sweat more.
I went to a doctor about this about a year and a half ago, but i
really don't believe he believed me and just fobbed me off with some
rubbish. I perfectly understand why he didn't believe me, i mean i
find it hard to believe it myself. Everyday i try to tell myself that
it can't be me, it's impossible, but i honestly can't believe that so
many people around me can be suffering with rashes, coughs, etc.
In total throughout the whole 6 years odd that i believe this to be
true, 4 people have acutally said to me, that they think they are
allergic to me (with possibly countless others thinking it?
The worse thing about this all, is that what is the point of me living
if i can't do the one thing (human contact) that makes up all the
enjoyable things in our lives. I do spend most time in my room, and
try to avoid contact with other people as much as possible, but i
really can't continue like this. I probably am suffering from
depression, that is pretty obvious, and it has also come to my mind
that i could be imagining it all, but i would have to be imagining my
entire life for that to be true. Anyway, i don't feel completely
insane yet :-)
If this is true, how can this be stopped, is there anyway something
can be used to stop me sweating? And before you say anything about it
could be something i'm eating, wearing, etc i have already tried all
the usual of not wearing fragrances, not eating garlic etc, and
anyway, such an allergy can't affect such a wide range of people.
The thing that i really need to know is, is this really possible? Is
there anyway that i could be tested to see if this is really causing
other people be allergic to me?
Could you please tell me your thoughts on this, maybe something that i
could show my doctor to convince him a bit more, or just something to
cheer me up a bit - i do feel very lonely.
p.s. this is something that is really hard to get off my chest, and i
have been finding it hard to fight off the tears. In general i try to
avoid the issue, and pretend everything is OK, but it's just not
working anymore.
bryher
People certainly can be allergic to other people's sweat and even to their
own (I'm told by an allergist). There are instances too of individuals
having allergic reactions to someone not far away opening a packet of
peanuts - but I guess that's microscopic bits of peanut dust getting into
the air. How strange that so many people seem to react to you ... are
these the same people in the same place or different groups of people in
different places?
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Denise F. Hayden
out in the sweat?
Have you thought about finding some sort of counseling to help you dela with
the depression and frustration? Anyone witha chronic problem needs some
help in coping with it. Just another person to talk to would probably be
helpful.
It oculd be an allergy or it could be stress....I know that when I am
stressed I can get rashes and itches I didn't have before. If I were you and
if it were affordable for you I think I would get some allergy testing done.
Denise
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marcus
I've never heard of quite the situation you describe -- you certainly have
my sympathies.
It is possible to be allergic to your own hormones and your own personal
normal bacteria. I knew someone who was allergic to her own thyroid
hormones, and I am allergic to my own normal upper respiratory bacteria
(when this flares up, I have to take antibiotics).
No, I certainly don't think you're crazy or imagining this. But I do think
that the suggestion someone made that you try to get supportive counseling
for your depression is a good idea -- provided you can find a counselor who
can empathize with your condition.
I'm scouring my brain trying to come up with a helpful suggestion -- the
only thing that dredges up is the possibility that an alternative health
practitioner, such as a homeopath, might be able to help.
Marcus in Vermont
addie
is a little on the acidy side or maybe a little to the alkaline side. if
so, he or she would be able to give you dietary suggestions as well as
supplementation to change your body chemistry up a bit. i have read that
anyone eating a typical american diet is a little more to the acid side than
they should be. if i remember right..the people who have problems wearing
jewelry(they get blotchy under the metal) may be too acidy. might be worth
a shot. sincerely, addie
Larry Preuss
"addie" <ad...@papermoon.net> wrote:
> dear james, here's an idea. try a natural doctor and see if your ph level
> is a little on the acidy side or maybe a little to the alkaline side. if
> so, he or she would be able to give you dietary suggestions as well as
> supplementation to change your body chemistry up a bit. i have read that
> anyone eating a typical american diet is a little more to the acid side than
> they should be. if i remember right..the people who have problems wearing
> jewelry(they get blotchy under the metal) may be too acidy. might be worth
> a shot. sincerely, addie
Forget it, James. That's what the kidneys and the lungs do for you. The
concept is totally uninformed.
Larry
addie
i should have, in fact, clarified that our lungs and kidneys are constantly
working to keep our plasma ph at a constant state. our organs and cells may
be another matter. i have included 3 sources here that show what excess
acid can do to organs...the bones...the joints..and then an over-all
explanation of the effects of over acidity written from a doctor michael
lam, m.d.'s website. thinking in terms that our sweat glands would be an
organ or part of the skin, which is the body's largest organ...i don't think
my advice was totally uninformed at all. addie. p.s i didn't have
the time to keep researching for more articles than these, but it also would
seem like taking anti-acid medications for acid reflux would show yet
another organ in the body that can malfunction by too much acid. and lastly,
there are many antibiotics if not all of them that manipulate ph in the
urinary bladder because bacteria have to have a certain ph in which to
thrive.
http://www.betterbones.com/aa_balance.htm
http://www.betterbones.com/index.htm
http://www.merck.com/disease/arthritis/about/gout.html
http://www.drlam.com/opinion/acidic_body.cfm
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Larry Preuss
"addie" <ad...@papermoon.net> wrote:
> larry, actually saying this theory is uninformed would be a little drastic.
> i should have, in fact, clarified that our lungs and kidneys are constantly
> working to keep our plasma ph at a constant state. our organs and cells may
> be another matter. i have included 3 sources here that show what excess
> acid can do to organs...the bones...the joints..and then an over-all
> explanation of the effects of over acidity written from a doctor michael
> lam, m.d.'s website. thinking in terms that our sweat glands would be an
> organ or part of the skin, which is the body's largest organ...i don't think
> my advice was totally uninformed at all. addie. p.s i didn't have
> the time to keep researching for more articles than these, but it also would
> seem like taking anti-acid medications for acid reflux would show yet
> another organ in the body that can malfunction by too much acid. and lastly,
> there are many antibiotics if not all of them that manipulate ph in the
> urinary bladder because bacteria have to have a certain ph in which to
> thrive.
> http://www.betterbones.com/aa_balance.htm
>
> http://www.betterbones.com/index.htm
>
> http://www.merck.com/disease/arthritis/about/gout.html
>
> http://www.drlam.com/opinion/acidic_body.cfm
The first two sites you mention are of course commercial sites, with no
more hard science than you would expect. The third, the Merck Manual
site, has many entries for gout, urate, and uric acid, but no comments
on the type of body acid you mention above. The Dr. Lamb site is a
large one. When I run a search for "acid" there I find many entries for
folic acid, but again, nothing that sounds like your theory. If I have
missed the specific page on that site I would be glad to have you point
it out to me.
Larry
addie
> In article <ow1k8.3460$t31.67...@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>,
> "addie" <ad...@papermoon.net> wrote:
>
you will see that this is really not a commercial site. as far as the gout
thing at merck..the point was to show you this... (from the site) "Gout may
be triggered under certain conditions, for example, following alcoholic
drinks, overeating protein-rich food or after physical stresses such as
surgery or illness."
in other words, it seems to me as if they are implying that food, alcoholic
drink, and stress can cause a rise in uric acid levels. it just so happens
that the 3 things listed are perfect examples of acid ash elements instead
of alkaline ash elements. why would doctors give you a special diet for
gout if your kidneys, lungs, and prescription medications were going to take
care of this over acidity problem?
on dr. lams site..this link should have gotten you there
http://www.drlam.com/opinion/acidic_body.cfm it is right under the search
box..it is called "acidic body". after i posted the other post..i thought
of a classic example how, though diet, the urinary bladder ph can be
deliberately changed. anyone who has been on the atkins diet knows it to be
a fact that once on the diet for a certain length of time, the urinary ph
changes as a reflection of the presence of ketones which begin to form from
a high protein/very low carb diet. his book suggests you go to the
drugstore and get the strips to check it yourself. here is a portion of a
page concerning yet another body organ...the kidneys and kidney stone
sufferers@ http://www.physicianweb.net/ptinfo/disease/kidney_stones.html
Diet
If the stone proves to be calcium or phosphorus, avoid products made of
milk, chocolate and nuts.
If the stone is a phosphate, an acid-ash diet will keep the urine slightly
acid.
If the stone is a urate or cystine stone, an alkaline-ash diet will keep the
urine slightly alkaline.
For all types of stones, drink at least 13 glasses of fluid daily. Most of
the fluids should be purified water.
Low-fat, high-fiber diet recommended.
note the mention of keeping the urine slightly alkaline or slightly acidic
and the mention of acid ash diet and alkaline ash diet.
again, i am not suggesting that anyone can really change their blood
ph...but it would seem that diet and certain alkaline-forming minerals could
change ph in a certain organ ..and since skin and it's sweat glands are
organs too....
i suspect we may never agree on this issue, but thought i'd write back and
debate it a little more. sincerely, addie
p.s. you should be able to get to all those pages simply by clicking on
the addresses.
J
> Symtons include, rashes, sneezing, severe coughing, runny noses, itchy
> eyes etc and possibly one severe case of someone fainting. And this
> isn't an allergy where people have to be in direct contact with me,
> there seems to be a good 20-30m circumfrance around me, which
> progresively gets worse the nearer they are to me.
>
> It's also worth noting that i believe i am allergic to myself, i
> constantly have mucus in my throat and nasal passages, i have quite a
> few rashes all over my body, which mostly occurs on my thighs, upper
> arms, chest, and a bit around the side of my stomach. I also suffer
> from occasional sneezing, and itchy eyes, which usually occurs when i
> sweat more.
Hi James,
I'm not so sure how you deduce that you are allergic to your sweat.
Sweat, by virtue of it's wetness and/or stickiness (on the body and/or
clothes) can pick up pet dander and/or dust mites, to which some people
are allergic.
I used to be allergic to my boss.
I noticed that it was less of a problem on the days that he bathed, wore
different clothes which smelled clean and/or tied his hair back (he had
shoulder length hair which I'm assuming also was picking up dust mites
and/or pet dander).
No misunderstandings here, he didn't stink nor have any particular body
odor (for me to know that he hadn't bathed).
I knew when he had bathed because he'd arrive and his hair was usually
still a little damp.
Those days I knew I'd be able to work near him on projects. Other days,
(when he hadn't bathed) I just had to find ways to avoid him, because he
never would have believed me that his clothing and/or personal habits were
a source of allegen to me and/or others in the office.
Conclusion: Even if you bathe every day, have a look at some of your
clothing. In his case, it tended to be items that couldn't be washed in
the washer. Heavy sweaters, vests, wool trousers that tend to get washed
less frequently.
Even those (on me) tend to bother me but the allergies clear if I handwash
them frequently (or more frequently than most people tend to).
Same thing started with another person about 7 years later. (same
reasons).
Just a thought.....
J
James Hop
> People certainly can be allergic to other people's sweat and even to their
> own (I'm told by an allergist). There are instances too of individuals
> having allergic reactions to someone not far away opening a packet of
> peanuts - but I guess that's microscopic bits of peanut dust getting into
> the air. How strange that so many people seem to react to you ... are
> these the same people in the same place or different groups of people in
> different places
But is it actually possible for so many people to be allergic to me?
I thought only a certain percentage of the population could have
allergic reactions?
It's the same people in different places. But what's strange is that
recently people have been getting rashes more than any other symptom.
Over time in general i seem to be causing more severe reactions to
people.
But what can i do about this, i mean how would you feel if i was
causing you a severe reaction such as constant coughing and being
covered in rashes. My worst fear is that one day someone could have
such a bad allergic reaction that it could kill them.
At the moment one person that i have to spend a lot of time around has
become extremely allergic to me, originally it just the sniffles, and
occasional sneeze, now 4 years on (when i first met her) she can't
stop coughing, even when 15 meters away from me, and on closer contact
she can't stop itching. I'm not sure what to do, she keeps discussing
what could be causing the reaction with people, and the problem is i
know it's me.
James Hop
> Another couple of thoughts...are you on any medication that may be coming
> out in the sweat?
No.
> Have you thought about finding some sort of counseling to help you dela with
> the depression and frustration? Anyone witha chronic problem needs some
> help in coping with it. Just another person to talk to would probably be
> helpful.
Yes i have thoughs about it, but what's the point, nothing apart from
the problem being solved is going to make me feel any better.
> It oculd be an allergy or it could be stress....I know that when I am
> stressed I can get rashes and itches I didn't have before. If I were you and
> if it were affordable for you I think I would get some allergy testing done.
>
But that can't be affecting other people. I don't really care about
the affects it has on me, i can live with that, it's the affect on
other people that gets me down so much.
James Hop
>
> Hi James,
> I'm not so sure how you deduce that you are allergic to your sweat.
> Sweat, by virtue of it's wetness and/or stickiness (on the body and/or
> clothes) can pick up pet dander and/or dust mites, to which some people
> are allergic.
Mainly because after i wash, few people seem to be allergic to me, but
about 20 mins after i start sweating people start to cought, sneeze
etc. While it it may be true that sweat can pick up dust mites etc,
the amount of people i'm talking about could not be allergic to such
allergens.
> I used to be allergic to my boss.
> I noticed that it was less of a problem on the days that he bathed, wore
> different clothes which smelled clean and/or tied his hair back (he had
> shoulder length hair which I'm assuming also was picking up dust mites
> and/or pet dander).
>
> Those days I knew I'd be able to work near him on projects. Other days,
> (when he hadn't bathed) I just had to find ways to avoid him,
But that's another thing that worries me, if people find out they will
have to avoid me. That's no way for me to live and i might as well
just kill myself if it continues like this.
>
> Conclusion: Even if you bathe every day, have a look at some of your
> clothing. In his case, it tended to be items that couldn't be washed in
> the washer. Heavy sweaters, vests, wool trousers that tend to get washed
> less frequently.
> Even those (on me) tend to bother me but the allergies clear if I handwash
> them frequently (or more frequently than most people tend to).
I bath at least 1-3 times a day, depending on what i'm doing and where
i am and clothes are always washed after just one wear.
bryher
>
> But is it actually possible for so many people to be allergic to me?
> I thought only a certain percentage of the population could have
> allergic reactions?
How many people are we talking about?
Does it happen if you spend any length of time with another group of people?
If I were you I'd be joining an evening class or something just to
experiment!
Maybe if you could find out what's triggering your allergies & cut those out
it might help. I remember some case in the US where some seriously ill
woman poisoned anyone who came near her, but I think that was some strange
metabolism of a drug she was taking which turned it into a weapons-grade
toxin! Maybe if you're having something similar but less drastic going on
with some type of food you're eating, if you cut it out maybe it would stop.
Isn't there anything in your home environment that you could be bringing in
with you? Moulds in house or whatever?
Larry Preuss
"bryher" <bryh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Or possibly paranoid ideation.
Larry
mrsparkle
through almost exactly what you described ever since about a year ago.
Everyone is always either coughing, sneezing, or sniffling when I'm
around them, and I've come to the conclusion that I must be the one
causing it. I'm talking about 95%-100% of anyone in my general area,
and it's severe and constant, not just one person sneezing a couple of
times. The sniffing/sniffling seems to be the most prevalent one.
Another weird thing I've noticed recently is that people seem to put
their hand up to their noses, usually either putting their finger
horizontally under thier nostrils, or the whole hand over their whole
nose, usually for an extended duration of time. At first, I thought it
might be that I was giving off some sort of repulsive odor, so I
started bathing more often, using antibacterial and deodorant soaps. I
even covered my whole body with deodorant. That didn't solve the
problem in the least.
I, like you, also have some mucus in my throat and nose, like I have
some sort of mild perpetual cold. I sometimes have to cough a little
to clear it up. That's been going on for a few years, I think. I don't
really have any rashes, however, and I don't know if I'm giving any to
anyone. Also, although I used to sweat a lot before this happened,
ever since it started, I sweat very rarely and my skin is always dry.
I'm extremely frustrated and angry at this; I'm not a violent guy at
all, but sometimes I just feel like punching or strangling anyone who
starts sniffling or coughing excessively in my presence. I don't know
much about how the body works, and have never had any allergy
problems, so I'm baffled as to what's causing this, although it really
feels like people are allergic to me. I've told my mother about it
several times, who, along with the rest of my family, exhibits the
aforementioned behaviors. She thinks I'm imagining it, and wants me to
see a psychiatrist about it. Sure, mom. I'm not paranoid, and I'm not
imagining a million people reacting violently to my presence. I'm
positive that this is happening in reality.
I also spend a lot of time in my room, but that's because I'm a damn
socially inept loner with no life :-). I don't go out much, and the
main time I have to be around people is when I go to school (high
school). I take the bus to get there, and even when I'm on the bus, I
can hear and see the various symptoms happening, including to the
driver.
Well, posting this is probably futile, but I've got nothing to lose. I
don't like going to the doctor, and he/she'd probably laugh me out of
the building if I told them everyone was allergic to me, even if they
went into coughing and sneezing fits right on the spot. I also found
another usenet post about another person that this was happening to,
so at least we're not alone :-).
Craig Bruner
people. I learened it by reading about NAET. You might go the to naet.com
website and look for a practiioner in your area. However it usually
involves treating the people having the reaction, not the one causing it. I
would seriously consider looking into energy or vibrational medicine.
Energy aura's as they are called can have an emotional and physical affect
on other people who are exposed to them. This may sound a little esoteric,
but then so is what you are experiencing.
Craig
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