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Jim Smith

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Jan 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/3/98
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Bill Steinen wrote:
>
> dwynn...@aol.com (DWynne1223) wrote:
>
> >If the Man of Steet fought the Strongest Man in the Universe, and the Amazing
> >Amazon fought the Strongest Woman in the Universe, who'd win?

Good question. As it happens, He-Man and Superman *did* fight in a 1982
issue of DC COMICS PRESENTS. Skeletor took control of Superman's body,
and while Supes eventually broke free of the spell, he bested He-Man in
the meantime.

> Not even close. He-Man is strong; Superman is stronger plus he has
> many other powers

But He-Man is "the most powerful man in the universe!" Superman is just
really, really strong. Moreover, Superman--*any* incarnation--is as
vulnerable to magic as I am to paper cuts. He-Man not only has
magically-derived strength, he lugs a magic sword around wherever he
goes--the same kind of sword that Skeletor cut Superman with.
(Incidentally, he must've forgot his magic sword in DC COMICS PRESENTS,
and I think that's why Supes busted his chops.)

Ultimately, depending on how little they held back, this could be as
close a fight as Superman vs. Thor. If I have to put up with a
bazillion "Sailor Moon can beat Super-ASS!" posts every year, then the
rest of you can just deal with this.

> (Classic Supes here, not the Blue Meanie).

I realize the new powers *suck*, but they happen to be more versatile
than the old ones--I think they'd actually improve Superman's odds in
almost any fight. The fact you and I don't like them doesn't affect
that.

A dose
> of heat vision to take the power sword out of the equation and it's
> over a panel later.

Have you even *watched* an episode of He-Man? Pfah. This is like
saying I can melt the Silver Surfer with a match.

Jim Smith

DWynne1223

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If the Man of Steet fought the Strongest Man in the Universe, and the Amazing
Amazon fought the Strongest Woman in the Universe, who'd win? Remember, She-Ra
(as Adora) was once the Captain of the Imperial Guard of an interstellar
empire, so she IS military trained.

Comments?

Bill Steinen

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dwynn...@aol.com (DWynne1223) wrote:

>Comments?

Not even close. He-Man is strong; Superman is stronger plus he has
many other powers (Classic Supes here, not the Blue Meanie). A dose


of heat vision to take the power sword out of the equation and it's

over a panel later. Wonder Woman might have a harder time with
She-Ra, but I doubt it. If nothing else, WW could get out that
gauntlet of Plot Device or whatever and pulverize She-Ra with one
shot.

Bill


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Hosun Second Lee

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Oh, please.

He-Man is stronger than SUperman, especially in post-Crisis. Note that
they only fought in pre-Crisis. Superman's weaker now.

He-Man's lifted Castle Greyskull. What has SUperman done? Oooh, an ocean
liner. Big whoop. I think He-Man's moved the earth once or twice, hasn't
he?

ANd then there's the fact that his powers come from magic, and his sword
is magical and for all intents and purposes, unbreakable.

It'd be a pretty even match. Superman's powers are more versatile, but
He-Man is physically more powerful now. It could go either way. If one
ambushes the other, the abmbushed would lose for sure.

Battle-Cat, of course, would be dead in five seconds. He'd be
heat-visioned or electified. But that's okay, I neer liked Battle-Cat.

Wonder Woman vs SHe-Ra. Hmm..I'd have to give it to SHe-Ra. Wonder Woman's
been wussified nowadays. ANd She-Ra can transform her sword into other
things as well. She's also got a flying horse than can match Wonder
Woman's jet. And she's got a cooler boyfriend.

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Bill Steinen

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Jim Smith <jams...@risc.usi.edu> wrote:


>But He-Man is "the most powerful man in the universe!" Superman is just
>really, really strong. Moreover, Superman--*any* incarnation--is as
>vulnerable to magic as I am to paper cuts. He-Man not only has
>magically-derived strength, he lugs a magic sword around wherever he
>goes--the same kind of sword that Skeletor cut Superman with.
>(Incidentally, he must've forgot his magic sword in DC COMICS PRESENTS,
>and I think that's why Supes busted his chops.)

Superman in any incarnation is (although writers frequently ignore it
for dramatic purposes) very capable of fighting from well out of sword
range. He's also (again, frequently ignored) very fast and could
easily dodge He-Man's clumsy sword blows.

>Ultimately, depending on how little they held back, this could be as
>close a fight as Superman vs. Thor. If I have to put up with a
>bazillion "Sailor Moon can beat Super-ASS!" posts every year, then the
>rest of you can just deal with this.

Same concept, true, but Thor is much more versatile than He-Man when
you factor his hammer into the equation.

>I realize the new powers *suck*, but they happen to be more versatile
>than the old ones--I think they'd actually improve Superman's odds in
>almost any fight. The fact you and I don't like them doesn't affect
>that.

They're concievably more versatile, but Supes has a long way to go
before he fully masters them. The powers themselves don't suck (IMO,
of course); they just belong with another character.

> A dose
>> of heat vision to take the power sword out of the equation and it's
>> over a panel later.

>Have you even *watched* an episode of He-Man? Pfah. This is like


>saying I can melt the Silver Surfer with a match.

Ah, but couldn't Superman heat the sword and/or He-Man's hand up
enough to make him drop it? Just a possibility.

And yes, I used to watch He-Man practically every time it was on.
That's why I know Superman would win - how often did He-Man actually
*hit* someone with his mighty sword, anyway??

Bill Steinen

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Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:


>Oh, please.

>He-Man is stronger than SUperman, especially in post-Crisis. Note that
>they only fought in pre-Crisis. Superman's weaker now.

True, but strength isn't everything. Superman fighting smart should
be able to take someone stronger than he is out.

>He-Man's lifted Castle Greyskull. What has SUperman done? Oooh, an ocean
>liner. Big whoop. I think He-Man's moved the earth once or twice, hasn't
>he?

>ANd then there's the fact that his powers come from magic, and his sword
>is magical and for all intents and purposes, unbreakable.

Superman is fast enough to avoid being hit with the sword if he wants
to; AFAIK He-Man doesn't have enhanced speed.

>It'd be a pretty even match. Superman's powers are more versatile, but
>He-Man is physically more powerful now. It could go either way. If one
>ambushes the other, the abmbushed would lose for sure.

I still say that Superman's speed and distance fighting ability would
win out over He-Man's greater strength and the sword.

>Battle-Cat, of course, would be dead in five seconds. He'd be
>heat-visioned or electified. But that's okay, I neer liked Battle-Cat.

Just don't let the copyright on the character lapse; he'll probably
end up in a Rob Liefield book someday.

>Wonder Woman vs SHe-Ra. Hmm..I'd have to give it to SHe-Ra. Wonder Woman's
>been wussified nowadays. ANd She-Ra can transform her sword into other
>things as well. She's also got a flying horse than can match Wonder
>Woman's jet. And she's got a cooler boyfriend.

Well, the "classic" Wonder Woman character is currently a god. She-Ra
is tough, but I don't think she's on that power level. The current
"acting" Wonder Woman, Hyppolyta, would slice-n-dice She-Ra before
She-Ra could even make a move. The traditional Wonder Woman
character, though...well, it would be one helluva fight but I still
think WW would take it.

Bill,
with too much time on his hands...

IHCOYC XPICTOC

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DWynne1223 (dwynn...@aol.com) wrote:

: If the Man of Steet fought the Strongest Man in the Universe, and the Amazing
: Amazon fought the Strongest Woman in the Universe, who'd win? Remember, She-Ra
: (as Adora) was once the Captain of the Imperial Guard of an interstellar
: empire, so she IS military trained.

Pre-Crisis Superman, spellbound by Skeletor, fought He-Man once in a DC
Comics Presents once. Superman emerged the victor, and had to think fast
to avoid opening Castle Greyskull for Skeletor. Of course, that was
pre-Criss, but the real red-gold-and blue Superman still ought to take out
He-Man fairly quickly, unless he manages to get run through with the magic
sword.

WW ought to easily take out She-Ra, only because in addition to her
strength, which may well be equal, she flies; she has a range attack in
her lasso, and usually has no problem deflecting sword blows.

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Hosun Second Lee

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IHCOYC XPICTOC <gust...@iglou.com> writes:

: WW ought to easily take out She-Ra, only because in addition to her


: strength, which may well be equal, she flies; she has a range attack in
: her lasso, and usually has no problem deflecting sword blows.


She-ra has a flying horse. She can also transform her sword into any
object so she too has a ranged attack. And she's got a cooler boyfriend.

Hosun Second Lee

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Bill Steinen <ste...@mindspring.com> writes:

: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:


: >Oh, please.

: >He-Man is stronger than SUperman, especially in post-Crisis. Note that
: >they only fought in pre-Crisis. Superman's weaker now.

: True, but strength isn't everything. Superman fighting smart should
: be able to take someone stronger than he is out.

Blueperman doesn't use fighting smarts, though. He just uses plot devices.

We'll note that both Blupes and normal Supes could barely handle Doomsday,
who is stronger than him. He-Man could take on Doomsday. I'm SERIOUS. He'd
just throwi Doomsday into orbit.

: >He-Man's lifted Castle Greyskull. What has SUperman done? Oooh, an ocean


: >liner. Big whoop. I think He-Man's moved the earth once or twice, hasn't
: >he?

: >ANd then there's the fact that his powers come from magic, and his sword
: >is magical and for all intents and purposes, unbreakable.

: Superman is fast enough to avoid being hit with the sword if he wants
: to; AFAIK He-Man doesn't have enhanced speed.

No, his super-speed is convenient, but never in a battle. We all know
that, if he used his super-speed effectively in battle, he could win. But
he won't so he won't.

We could also have Orko vs Mr. Mxyzptlk.

: >Wonder Woman vs SHe-Ra. Hmm..I'd have to give it to SHe-Ra. Wonder Woman's


: >been wussified nowadays. ANd She-Ra can transform her sword into other
: >things as well. She's also got a flying horse than can match Wonder

: >Woman's jet. And she's got a cooler boyfriend.

: Well, the "classic" Wonder Woman character is currently a god. She-Ra


: is tough, but I don't think she's on that power level. The current
: "acting" Wonder Woman, Hyppolyta, would slice-n-dice She-Ra before
: She-Ra could even make a move. The traditional Wonder Woman
: character, though...well, it would be one helluva fight but I still
: think WW would take it.

No WAY. Hippolyta has 1/0th of SHe-Ra's exprience! She-Ra could beat up
this wanna-be super-heroine. She can take on anyone! Her show lasted even
after He-Man's was cancelled. That's *TRUE* power.

OmarIsBack

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{Good question. As it happens, He-Man and Superman *did* fight in a 1982

issue of DC COMICS PRESENTS. Skeletor took control of Superman's body,
and while Supes eventually broke free of the spell, he bested He-Man in
the meantime.}

Wait a minute, DC owns He-man? And Orco would kick everyone's ass.

Bruce L. Grubb

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In article <19980104085...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
omari...@aol.com (OmarIsBack) wrote:

Mxyxptlk would trash poor Orco as Orco wasn't veryt good in the problem
solving department.

David J. Snyder

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In article <68nbe9$3...@snews3.zippo.com>,

Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>
>She-ra has a flying horse. She can also transform her sword into any
>object so she too has a ranged attack. And she's got a cooler boyfriend.
>
What exactly does a cooler boyfriend do for you in a fight?

-Dave
--
"There's no difference between good flan and bad flan."
-William H. Macy, WAG THE DOG

Hosun Second Lee

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Bruce L. Grubb <bgr...@zianet.com> writes:
: In article <19980104085...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
: omari...@aol.com (OmarIsBack) wrote:

He had his own action figure. Did Mxy ever get that far?

Hosun Second Lee

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David J. Snyder <da...@bermuda.io.com> writes:
: In article <68nbe9$3...@snews3.zippo.com>,

: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
: >
: >
: >She-ra has a flying horse. She can also transform her sword into any
: >object so she too has a ranged attack. And she's got a cooler boyfriend.
: >
: What exactly does a cooler boyfriend do for you in a fight?

I can't believe you actually have to ask that. I'm not even going to
dignify that with a response.

I will say this much JEM vs BARBIE. Jem wins because she has Rico! She-Ra
has Bo, while Wonder Woman doesn't even have a boyfriend right now!

: --

: "There's no difference between good flan and bad flan."
: -William H. Macy, WAG THE DOG

You jest, Laverne? This is actually in the movie?

David J. Snyder

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In article <68o5s9$d...@snews3.zippo.com>,

Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>I will say this much JEM vs BARBIE. Jem wins because she has Rico! She-Ra
>has Bo, while Wonder Woman doesn't even have a boyfriend right now!

Wait, you're talking about Bo? I thought you were talking about the
pirate guy. Bo was a woose.

>
>: --
>: "There's no difference between good flan and bad flan."
>: -William H. Macy, WAG THE DOG
>
>You jest, Laverne? This is actually in the movie?
>

Well, it's in reference to Mexican Flan, not the pastry variety.

-Dave

Sean MacDonald

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Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:

>Bruce L. Grubb <bgr...@zianet.com> writes:

>: Mxyxptlk would trash poor Orco as Orco wasn't veryt good in the problem
>: solving department.
>
>He had his own action figure. Did Mxy ever get that far?


Yep. Mego made Mxy action figures. Unfortunately, Mxy
was just as tall as everyone else as Mego wasn't too great
on making the hard-to-make characters (witness Tarzan's
flesh-toned bodysuit or the Thing's rocky-skin-costume).


--
-SM
"It seemed a dreadful injustice that these wise races should
perish at the hands of creatures who were still little more
than animals. It was as if vultures feasted on and squabbled
over the paralyzed body of the youthful poet who could only
stare at them with puzzled eyes as they slowly robbed him of
an exquisite existence they would never appreciate, never know
they were taking. 'If they valued what they stole, if they knew
what they were destroying...then I would be consoled.'" -Michael Moorcock

Hosun Second Lee

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Sean MacDonald <mcdo...@vorteb.math.uab.edu> writes:

: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
: >Bruce L. Grubb <bgr...@zianet.com> writes:

: >: Mxyxptlk would trash poor Orco as Orco wasn't veryt good in the problem
: >: solving department.
: >
: >He had his own action figure. Did Mxy ever get that far?


: Yep. Mego made Mxy action figures. Unfortunately, Mxy
: was just as tall as everyone else as Mego wasn't too great
: on making the hard-to-make characters (witness Tarzan's
: flesh-toned bodysuit or the Thing's rocky-skin-costume).

Then Orco wins. His action figure was MOTORIZED and almost to scale, in a
non-literal way.

Mxy could do what....you could swap his shirt for Barbie's dress or
something probably. Ooooh, "Mxyzptlk with REAL cross-dressing action." I
don't think so.

Hosun Second Lee

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David J. Snyder <da...@pentagon.io.com> writes:
: In article <68o5s9$d...@snews3.zippo.com>,

: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
: >
: >I will say this much JEM vs BARBIE. Jem wins because she has Rico! She-Ra

: >has Bo, while Wonder Woman doesn't even have a boyfriend right now!

: Wait, you're talking about Bo? I thought you were talking about the
: pirate guy. Bo was a woose.

How can Bo be a woose? Okay, he had a pink heart on his chest, which is
about as unmasculine as you can get (unless you're in touch with your
inner child). And that moustache of him was a bit too prim and proper.
And okay, the cape was overkill.

But he was *THE* boyfriend. We all know that. She-Ra was torn between Bo
and the pirate guy, but she *ALWAYS* back to Bo, well, Adora did. Bo loved
Adora for Adora, not She-Ra. Oooh, that rhymes. Actually, She-Ra's cooler
than He-Man in that she *HAD* an SO. He-Man had Teela, and they never even
went out for dinner. Now that's anal.

Besides, Bo had his own horse, it even came as an action figure. Pirate
guy didn't even *GET* an action figure. Why do you think he's cooler?
Because he's a rogue? Because he dresses funny? Because he swings from
lines? Bo can beat the crap out of him, but Bo don't do that 'cuz Bo can
find other ways to spend Bo's time. Like shag Adora.

THIS is why She-Ra would beat up Wonder Woman. She's got all of this angst
and love and all that crap to fight for. All Diana has
is...what..manageable hair?

: >: --

: >: "There's no difference between good flan and bad flan."
: >: -William H. Macy, WAG THE DOG
: >
: >You jest, Laverne? This is actually in the movie?
: >
: Well, it's in reference to Mexican Flan, not the pastry variety.

Those bastards. Just for that, I'm going to go see ANASTASIA today
instead.

David J. Snyder

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In article <68oare$3...@snews1.zippo.com>,

Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>But he was *THE* boyfriend. We all know that. She-Ra was torn between Bo
>and the pirate guy, but she *ALWAYS* back to Bo, well, Adora did. Bo loved
>Adora for Adora, not She-Ra. Oooh, that rhymes. Actually, She-Ra's cooler

Nah. Bo wanted She-Ra. If anything, Adora was just a poor substitute.
It was pirate guy who really only cared about Adora. Pirate guy didn't even
like She-Ra (exceptin a platonic sense).

>than He-Man in that she *HAD* an SO. He-Man had Teela, and they never even
>went out for dinner. Now that's anal.
>

Well, yeah. But He-Man wanted Teela to love Adam. And Adam was in Teela's
friend zone.

>guy didn't even *GET* an action figure. Why do you think he's cooler?
>Because he's a rogue? Because he dresses funny? Because he swings from
>lines?

Yep. Kind of like Batman,

-Dave

Jonathan Worley

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I don't beleive you guys. Don't remember the Marvel/DC Xover? On blast of
heat vision and Supes takes the Hulk down. Now, how much more strong is
the Hulk than He-Man??? So what if He-Man lifted Castle Grey Skull. The
Hulk lifted an entire asteroind in Secret Wars, and The Post
Crisis(weaker) Supes beat him anyway.
Now on a differnet subeject: when I was a kid He-Man was one of my
favorite shows, and She-Ra was 2nd fav.(I esp. like the Xover eps.). I
have a Q. Did they start out in the comics and then go to tv???


Hosun Second Lee

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David J. Snyder <da...@pentagon.io.com> writes:
: In article <68oare$3...@snews1.zippo.com>,

: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
: >
: >But he was *THE* boyfriend. We all know that. She-Ra was torn between Bo
: >and the pirate guy, but she *ALWAYS* back to Bo, well, Adora did. Bo loved
: >Adora for Adora, not She-Ra. Oooh, that rhymes. Actually, She-Ra's cooler

: Nah. Bo wanted She-Ra. If anything, Adora was just a poor substitute.
: It was pirate guy who really only cared about Adora. Pirate guy didn't even
: like She-Ra (exceptin a platonic sense).

David, David, David. You poor deluded fool. You're still getting over all
of that lead in your drinking water, aren't you?

Bo LOVED Adora for who she was! There was this one ep with Pirate Guy and
Bo, and in the end, Adora, teary-eyed, ran off and said that Bo loved
She-Ra more than her. Bo said something to the effect of, "She-Ra's fun to
be with, but you're the one I.....choke...love." Awwww gosh, you gotta
love it.

And his horse was named arrow. Heh.. Heh. Now there's a double entendre.

Pirate Guy liked Adora more than She-Ra though, I'll give you that.

: >than He-Man in that she *HAD* an SO. He-Man had Teela, and they never even


: >went out for dinner. Now that's anal.
: >
: Well, yeah. But He-Man wanted Teela to love Adam. And Adam was in Teela's
: friend zone.

I've never heard of a Friend Zone, but that explains a lot. Although
y'know, at least She-Ra had a credible disguise, she LOOKED different.
EVERYONE knew He-Man was Adam with a tan. Anyway, the point is, He-Man
could beat up Superman, but She-Ra can beat up He-Man, so She-Ra can beat
up Superman OR Blueperman.

: >guy didn't even *GET* an action figure. Why do you think he's cooler?


: >Because he's a rogue? Because he dresses funny? Because he swings from
: >lines?

: Yep. Kind of like Batman,

Hey, I do that, too.

RFD

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DWynne1223 wrote:
>
> If the Man of Steet fought the Strongest Man in the Universe, and the Amazing
> Amazon fought the Strongest Woman in the Universe, who'd win? Remember, She-Ra
> (as Adora) was once the Captain of the Imperial Guard of an interstellar
> empire, so she IS military trained.
>
> Comments?

Superman would use his heat vision at top intensity and turn He-Man into
carbon dust, then Supes would take the dust and compress it into a
diamond and fling it into orbit around a star 30,000,000,000,000 light
years away.

Edward Mathews

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Hosun Second Lee (ho...@primenet.com) wrote:
: Bruce L. Grubb <bgr...@zianet.com> writes:
: : In article <19980104085...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,

: : omari...@aol.com (OmarIsBack) wrote:
:
: : > {Good question. As it happens, He-Man and Superman *did* fight in a 1982
: : > issue of DC COMICS PRESENTS. Skeletor took control of Superman's body,
: : > and while Supes eventually broke free of the spell, he bested He-Man in
: : > the meantime.}
: : >
: : > Wait a minute, DC owns He-man? And Orco would kick everyone's ass.
:
: : Mxyxptlk would trash poor Orco as Orco wasn't veryt good in the problem
: : solving department.
:
: He had his own action figure. Did Mxy ever get that far?
:

Mxy has a store named after him in Greenwich Village that sells really
cool nic-nacs. Orco does not. :)

swehtaM (oh no!) dE
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I believe the boyfriend oyu are talking about is Captain Seahawk---yes,
he is a pirate (a good one, though).

In article <68oa0c$47b$1...@nntp-2.io.com>,
da...@pentagon.io.com (David J. Snyder) wrote:
>
> In article <68o5s9$d...@snews3.zippo.com>,


> Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
> >

> >I will say this much JEM vs BARBIE. Jem wins because she has Rico! She-Ra
> >has Bo, while Wonder Woman doesn't even have a boyfriend right now!
>
> Wait, you're talking about Bo? I thought you were talking about the
> pirate guy. Bo was a woose.
>
> >

> >: --


> >: "There's no difference between good flan and bad flan."
> >: -William H. Macy, WAG THE DOG
> >

> >You jest, Laverne? This is actually in the movie?
> >
> Well, it's in reference to Mexican Flan, not the pastry variety.
>

> -Dave
> --
> "There's no difference between good flan and bad flan."
> -William H. Macy, WAG THE DOG

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David J. Snyder

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In article <68on1d$p...@usenet44.supernews.com>,

Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>Bo LOVED Adora for who she was! There was this one ep with Pirate Guy and
>Bo, and in the end, Adora, teary-eyed, ran off and said that Bo loved
>She-Ra more than her. Bo said something to the effect of, "She-Ra's fun to
>be with, but you're the one I.....choke...love." Awwww gosh, you gotta
>love it.
>
Well, sure, Bo's going to tell Adora that. If She-Ra had been there,
it would be a different story. Bo believes if you can't be with the
one you love, love the one you're with.

It's kind of like Nightwing and say Huntress. Maybe Nightwing
really would like to be with Starfire, but she's off in space,
so he's going to tell Huntress she's the one he really cares about.

Today on Ricki Lake- She Stole My Superhero.

Dark Spider

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but WW is a godess

David J. Snyder <da...@pentagon.io.com> wrote in article
<68oa0c$47b$1...@nntp-2.io.com>...
> In article <68o5s9$d...@snews3.zippo.com>,


> Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
> >

> >I will say this much JEM vs BARBIE. Jem wins because she has Rico!
She-Ra
> >has Bo, while Wonder Woman doesn't even have a boyfriend right now!
>
> Wait, you're talking about Bo? I thought you were talking about the
> pirate guy. Bo was a woose.
>
> >

> >: --

> >: "There's no difference between good flan and bad flan."
> >: -William H. Macy, WAG THE DOG
> >

> >You jest, Laverne? This is actually in the movie?
> >
> Well, it's in reference to Mexican Flan, not the pastry variety.
>

Aaron Mojo

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I hate to say it, but He-Man -- being magic based in his powers -- would
probably take Superman out in a short amount of time.

...The Batman could kick his butt though.

-Aaron!

Jim Smith

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Oh hell...Man-At-Arms could beat Batman.

Jim Smith

Hosun Second Lee

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David J. Snyder <da...@bermuda.io.com> writes:
: In article <68on1d$p...@usenet44.supernews.com>,

: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
: >
: >Bo LOVED Adora for who she was! There was this one ep with Pirate Guy and

: >Bo, and in the end, Adora, teary-eyed, ran off and said that Bo loved
: >She-Ra more than her. Bo said something to the effect of, "She-Ra's fun to
: >be with, but you're the one I.....choke...love." Awwww gosh, you gotta
: >love it.
: >
: Well, sure, Bo's going to tell Adora that. If She-Ra had been there,
: it would be a different story. Bo believes if you can't be with the
: one you love, love the one you're with.

Hey, man, don't you diss Bo! He's a lot more reputable than...Captain
Seahawk. What the HELL kind of name is Captain Seahawk..

"Look, it's Captain Seahawk and his ridiculous-dressed, morally righteous
pirates!"

I don't think so.

Unless you can substatitate these unfoudned urmors about Bo, I demand an
apology and a retraction. Bo can whump Captain Seahawk *AND* the
pre-Crisis Steve Trevor. And you still have not brought up a boyfriend of
WW to compete with Bo.

: It's kind of like Nightwing and say Huntress. Maybe Nightwing


: really would like to be with Starfire, but she's off in space,
: so he's going to tell Huntress she's the one he really cares about.

That bastard, I knew he was two-timing.

: Today on Ricki Lake- She Stole My Superhero.

Rocki Lake stole your superhero? This is a bad thing?

IPointer

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What about Beast-Man v. Jimmy Olsen? Could be fun......

Jim Smith

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IPointer wrote:
>
> What about Beast-Man v. Jimmy Olsen? Could be fun......

I'd rather see Beast Man fight Bibbo...

Jim Smith

David J. Snyder

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In article <68r9ai$d...@usenet41.supernews.com>,

Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>Hey, man, don't you diss Bo! He's a lot more reputable than...Captain
>Seahawk. What the HELL kind of name is Captain Seahawk..
>
>"Look, it's Captain Seahawk and his ridiculous-dressed, morally righteous
>pirates!"
>
Oh, you prefer the pink heart.

>
>Unless you can substatitate these unfoudned urmors about Bo, I demand an
>apology and a retraction. Bo can whump Captain Seahawk *AND* the
>pre-Crisis Steve Trevor. And you still have not brought up a boyfriend of
>WW to compete with Bo.
>

That Indelicato guy (whose name I'm probably mangling) from the Perez
era is much better thanBBo. Though he's no Captain Seahawk.
And iff Bo met Wonder Woman, he'd tell her he was in love with her too.

Jim Smith

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Aaron Mojo wrote:

> >Oh hell...Man-At-Arms could beat Batman.
> >
> >Jim Smith

> HAW HAW HAW! Who you think you am!

I'm Spartacus.

How some mustached prettyboy jackass
> going whup up on Batman! Batman would TAKE that ugly, stupid, Danish-looking
> "special friend"of He-Man and TEAR HIM UP! Then him shove Fisto's fist up his
> butt!!

My friends, if Bizarro says that Batman can beat Man-At-Arms, then isn't
it *clear* that Man-At-Arms can beat Batman? I rest my case. Now join
me, and we'll fight every Roman we have to until we can get *out* of
this damn country!

Jim Smith

Aaron Mojo

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>Oh hell...Man-At-Arms could beat Batman.
>
>Jim Smith

HAW HAW HAW! Who you think you am! How some mustached prettyboy jackass


going whup up on Batman! Batman would TAKE that ugly, stupid, Danish-looking
"special friend"of He-Man and TEAR HIM UP! Then him shove Fisto's fist up his
butt!!

------- Bizarro No. 1 -------
(Up Man-At-Arms' butt, not him own butt... That be nasty.)

Aaron Mojo

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>I'd rather see Beast Man fight Bibbo...

Beast Man's sorry hairy a** STILL OWE ME MONEY! Come up here talking bout
how some "sorry ho" Evil Lyn take him for everything him got... Like her was
really going sell him her half the Sword of Power...

------- Bizarro No. 1 -------

(Bizarro Jimmy just walked up Bizarro Lucy Lane and say "Hey baby, me gots
Sword of Power in me pants, uh huh huh huh...")

JohannaLD

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From: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com>

>you still have not brought up a boyfriend of WW to compete with Bo.

I have no interest in discussing someone named after a Duke of
Hazzard, but if you're interested in cool WW boyfriends, how about
Captain Wonder? Of course, he turned out to be a wacko in
disguise, but still...

Johanna

Hosun Second Lee

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JohannaLD <joha...@aol.com> writes:
: From: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com>

Capain Wonder? When did he appear? And please tell me the name is a double
entendre... B-)

Bala Menon

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Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote in article
<68sbsp$n0$1...@usenet45.supernews.com>...
> JohannaLD <joha...@aol.com> writes:
> : if you're interested in cool WW boyfriends, how about


> : Captain Wonder? Of course, he turned out to be a wacko in
> : disguise, but still...
>
> Capain Wonder? When did he appear? And please tell me the
> name is a double entendre... B-)

Somewhere around #289 of WW, IIRC. He fell in love with the
Silver Swan, but both of them turned out to be pretty ugly in their
normal ID's, disdaining each other. He was Dr. Psycho (tapping
into a combination Steve Trevor/Diana image, I think, but my
memory's faulty here).

--
Bala Menon (b.m...@worldnet.att.net)

Elsbeth

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You know, I have re-discovered that I like browsing through this news group
simply for the thread subject titles . . .

--"Yeah, I know I'm off topic" Elsbeth
(Address above is no-spammed. Remove SCAdian to reply)

JohannaLD wrote in message
<19980106025...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...


>From: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com>
>
>>you still have not brought up a boyfriend of WW to compete with Bo.
>
>I have no interest in discussing someone named after a Duke of

>Hazzard, but if you're interested in cool WW boyfriends, how about


>Captain Wonder? Of course, he turned out to be a wacko in
>disguise, but still...
>

>Johanna

Hosun Second Lee

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David J. Snyder <da...@bermuda.io.com> writes:
: In article <68r9ai$d...@usenet41.supernews.com>,
: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
: >
: >Hey, man, don't you diss Bo! He's a lot more reputable than...Captain

: >Seahawk. What the HELL kind of name is Captain Seahawk..
: >
: >"Look, it's Captain Seahawk and his ridiculous-dressed, morally righteous
: >pirates!"
: >
: Oh, you prefer the pink heart.

Hey, it was pretty reddish pink heart. Bo was just in touch with his
feminine side, is that so wrong? Besides, it was more red than pink. I'm
pretty sure it was almost entirely red.

And I'd rather have a reddish pink heart than a name like 'Captain
Seahawk.' You just know his men called him Captain Semen.

: >Unless you can substatitate these unfoudned urmors about Bo, I demand an


: >apology and a retraction. Bo can whump Captain Seahawk *AND* the

: >pre-Crisis Steve Trevor. And you still have not brought up a boyfriend of


: >WW to compete with Bo.

: >
: That Indelicato guy (whose name I'm probably mangling) from the Perez


: era is much better thanBBo. Though he's no Captain Seahawk.
: And iff Bo met Wonder Woman, he'd tell her he was in love with her too.

Who's Indelicato? Wait, actually< i think I remember, but wasn't he Loebs?
No, wait there was another guy under Loebs. But was Indelicato ever a SO
for Diana?

Bo could beat up Indelicato.

--
\\ \\ Hosun S. Lee / Vorpal Bunny(TM)
\\-\\ http://www.primenet.com/~holee/cjpriest/

( 0-0) "I can't WAIT to write THIS one up...'Dear War Journal: Today
{_^_} I played Patty-Cake with two little kids and a trigger-happy
dame...' Oh BROTHER!" - The PUNISHER.

Hosun Second Lee

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Bala Menon <b.m...@worldnet.att.net> writes:

: Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote in article


: <68sbsp$n0$1...@usenet45.supernews.com>...
: > JohannaLD <joha...@aol.com> writes:

: > : if you're interested in cool WW boyfriends, how about


: > : Captain Wonder? Of course, he turned out to be a wacko in
: > : disguise, but still...

: >
: > Capain Wonder? When did he appear? And please tell me the

: > name is a double entendre... B-)

: Somewhere around #289 of WW, IIRC. He fell in love with the
: Silver Swan, but both of them turned out to be pretty ugly in their
: normal ID's, disdaining each other. He was Dr. Psycho (tapping
: into a combination Steve Trevor/Diana image, I think, but my
: memory's faulty here).

Admit it. You had to look this up.

Bala Menon

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Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote in article

<68sna5$1...@snews3.zippo.com>...


> Bala Menon <b.m...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
> : Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote in article
> : <68sbsp$n0$1...@usenet45.supernews.com>...
> : > JohannaLD <joha...@aol.com> writes:
> : > : if you're interested in cool WW boyfriends, how about
> : > : Captain Wonder? Of course, he turned out to be a wacko in
> : > : disguise, but still...
> : >
> : > Capain Wonder? When did he appear? And please tell me the
> : > name is a double entendre... B-)
>
> : Somewhere around #289 of WW, IIRC. He fell in love with the
> : Silver Swan, but both of them turned out to be pretty ugly in their
> : normal ID's, disdaining each other. He was Dr. Psycho (tapping
> : into a combination Steve Trevor/Diana image, I think, but my
> : memory's faulty here).
>
> Admit it. You had to look this up.

If I had to look it up, I'd have given you the exact issue number :)
I haven't any of the pre-Crisis Wonder Womans here (well, aside from
one Denny O'Neil Diana Prince), so I haven't anything to refer to.
I'm sure Jo'll be able to give us a more accurate issue number and
description.

--
Bala Menon (b.m...@worldnet.att.net)

David J. Snyder

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In article <68smsv$q...@usenet42.supernews.com>,

Hosun Second Lee <ho...@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>Hey, it was pretty reddish pink heart. Bo was just in touch with his
>feminine side, is that so wrong? Besides, it was more red than pink. I'm

Bo was in touch with a lot of people's feminine sides.

Jim Smith

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ALBERT B. CHING wrote:
>
> Couple comments on this thread...
>
> First of all, it's ORKO, with a "k" not with a "c". And Mxy WOULD
> kick his ass. Cool as he was, Orko was really just a little dork in
> a hood with no legs.

Easy, there, Albert. It's true Orko had really crappy powers on
*Eternia*. But you move this fight to Trolla (where everything's
backwards and Trolls kick ass) or the fifth dimension (where everything
just kicks ass), and you've got a whole new ballgame.

> As far as Superman v. He-Man goes, the cover to said issue of DCCP
> goes something like "As long as SKELETOR is in control of me,
> I must fight He-Man. That means - I may DIE!" Of course, that's
> the jaundiced, Albert-ese version...

Albert knows more than he thinks. Superman expresses some misgivings
about fighting He-Man. Why? Because it's a close fight. Byrne-ify
Supes? Still close. Turn Supes blue? Still close.

Why? Because He-Man's got a magic-FREAKIN'-sword, and Superman is
vulnerable to magic. And He-Man is "the most powerful man in the
universe!"

> A couple of other good fight scenarios to think about...
>
> Man-At-Arms vs. Batman

Man-At-Arms. He has more friends.

> Hordak vs. Darksied

Darkseid. Hordak answered to some crap on the She-Ra cartoon.

> Aquaman vs. that He-Man fish guy whose name I forget

Mer-Man. Aquaman has a harpoon on his arm, and can control sea life
like Mermy. Arthur wins.

> Teela vs. Black Canary

Teela. But Black Canary looks sexier, thanks to the fishnets.

> If this were racmx, Tri-clops v. Cyclops would be a shoe-in;

Cyclops shoots a powerful force beam. Tri-Klops just goes from calm to
mean to *really* mean. Cyclops wins.

> Ram-Man vs. Cannonball as well.

Oh *come on*! Cannonball *wishes* he were Ram-Man. Ram-Man scored
once.

Jim Smith

ALBERT B. CHING

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Couple comments on this thread...


First of all, it's ORKO, with a "k" not with a "c". And Mxy WOULD
kick his ass. Cool as he was, Orko was really just a little dork in
a hood with no legs.

Yes, He-Man was in an issue of DC COMICS PRESENTS, in 1982 (I
believe). I have that issue, but I figure that the license
must have changed over to Marvel very soon afterwards, as Marvel
produced a semi-long running series starring good ol' Prince
Adam right around that time.

As far as Superman v. He-Man goes, the cover to said issue of DCCP
goes something like "As long as SKELETOR is in control of me,
I must fight He-Man. That means - I may DIE!" Of course, that's
the jaundiced, Albert-ese version...

Wonder Woman vs. She-Ra is a bit of a pickle. Mainly because while
I can recall almost all of He-Man's rogue gallery, I have trouble recalling
details about She-Ra except for the fact her action figure had
"real hair" which is what my siblings called it back then;
although it certainly was not real. :)

Superman COULD beat He-Man is we're talking about the lame, Eternia
is in a bubble He-Man from the 1990-91 series, which was short-
lived and sucked.

A couple of other good fight scenarios to think about...

Man-At-Arms vs. Batman
Hordak vs. Darksied


Aquaman vs. that He-Man fish guy whose name I forget

Teela vs. Black Canary
Sourceress vs. The Spectre, or Zatanna...
'


If this were racmx, Tri-clops v. Cyclops would be a shoe-in;

Ram-Man vs. Cannonball as well.

Albert "By the power of Greayskull!" Ching
Bleach. Frank L:angella as Skeletor...
Notice how cleverly "Orko" rhymes with "Dorko"..
--

Kevin Chang

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Jim Smith <jams...@risc.usi.edu> wrote:

>Oh *come on*! Cannonball *wishes* he were Ram-Man.

Don't we all, friend. Don't we all.


-Kevin

David J. Snyder

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In article <34B316...@risc.usi.edu>,

Jim Smith <jams...@risc.usi.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Man-At-Arms vs. Batman
>
>Man-At-Arms. He has more friends.

Who said he could bring his friends to the fight?
Batman could take Duncan without even dropping a sweat.


>
>
>> Teela vs. Black Canary
>
>Teela. But Black Canary looks sexier, thanks to the fishnets.

I must protest. Certainly Black Canary is an attractive woman,
but Teela is sex on wheels.

Jim Smith

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Kelly in B wrote:
>
> Just wanted to point out that He-Man may be the most powerful man on in the
> universe in his case "HE" prob. means human and no matter how powerful the
> human he is no match for superman.

He-Man is not human, he's half-human, half-Eternian. Moreover, his
strength is not derived from his nature, but from the magical properties
of his sword.

Besides, there are plenty of humans who are a match for Superman. Lex
Luthor has been deadlocked with him for 60 years. Firestorm is just two
humans slapped together, and he could turn all the air around Supes into
kryptonite lickety-split. I'm not saying humans can wipe the floor with
Superman, but Superman doesn't automatically beat everybody.

Jim Smith

Kelly in B

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Hosun Second Lee

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Two more reasons why HE-Man would win.

We've seen that magically-powered creatures can cut SUperman just by using
their fingernails. Therefore, HE-Man just needs to grow really sharp
nails.

Second, SUperman has the Fortress of SOlitude. He-Man has Castle
Greyskull. Come on, which was a cooler playet? I'm sure a Fortress playset
came out, but it couldnt' have been as cool as Castle Greyskull.

--
=-= Hosun S. Lee / Vorpal Bunny(TM) =-=
-=- http://www.primenet.com/~holee/cjpriest/ -=-
"You don't know the F.F., Man."
"And whose fault is THAT? You NEVER take me over to the Baxter Building
with you! I certainly wouldn't cut you out like that! After all, didn't
I introduce you to the Sons of the Tiger??"
"Yeah, you did. That REALLY made my day, Fist..."
"What's the matter? You afraid I'll ruin the furniture or something?!?"
-Power Man and Iron Fist.

Glenn E. Meyer

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However, I think Dolph Lundgren (who played He-Man, the Russian
who fought Rocky IV, the Punisher, etc.) could probably
beat the crap out of Dean Cain, Christopher Reeves, George Reeves
and the old guy in the serial.

Also Dolph has a Master's in Chemistry from MIT so he is probably
smarter than Superman who was a Communications Major.

How's this for logical?

Bye

Jonathan Worley

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ipoi...@aol.com (IPointer) wrote:
>
>What about Beast-Man v. Jimmy Olsen? Could be fun.....

GOOD GREIF MAN WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE YOU THINKING?!??!?!?!?!!
ARE YOU PSYCHO!?!?!?!


Hosun Second Lee

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Jonathan Worley <MRH...@prodigy.com> writes:


Yeah, Olsen would beat the crap out of Beast-Man.

Ferraccio

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>No WAY. Hippolyta has 1/0th of SHe-Ra's exprience! She-Ra could beat up
>this wanna-be super-heroine. She can take on anyone! Her show lasted even
>after He-Man's was cancelled. That's *TRUE* power.
>
>

Oh? She-Ra is over 4,000 years old, and has dealt with Gods, demons under her
Islnand, and the War of the Gods, huh? Not to mention training the strongest
female hero (Diana) in the DCU?


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