Staten Island Railway
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two points on the island. The web site suggests that fares are only
collected at the ferry terminal?
Could someone please explain how the fare system works on the railway?
Also, are Metrocards accepted? I will be moving to the NYC area soon
and would like to know.
Thanks in advance,
Carl
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between two points on the island. The web site suggests that
fares are only collected at the ferry terminal?
Could someone please explain how the fare system works on the
railway? Also, are Metrocards accepted? I will be moving to the
What you heard is correct. Fares are collected only when
entering or exiting at the St.George (ferry) terminal. All other
travel on the system is free.
MetroCards are accepted.
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Bill Heitner wrote:
[re free travel outside St.George]
> Does anyone know what percentage of ridership,,,is out of St George???
I don't know specifically, but I would guess that it's somewhere north
of 90%.
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Bill Heitner
NEW HAVEN U25B
employees are bound by CSX rules and regulations as well as being BLE and
UTU union members than TWU as all NYCTA employees. An SIRT conductor is on
board every train and collects fares between St. George and Totenville in
common railroad commuter train fashion. There is no free ride anywhere on
the SIRT. SIRT is separate from the NYCTA system. If there were an NYCTA
strike, the SIRT would be unaffected and remain operating. Jerome
>
> Is it free to travel on the Staten Island Railway if I am going between
> two points on the island. The web site suggests that fares are only
> collected at the ferry terminal?
>
> Could someone please explain how the fare system works on the railway?
> Also, are Metrocards accepted? I will be moving to the NYC area soon
> and would like to know.
>
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drive from one of the N.J. bridges to the Verazzano, but this is
contrary to everything that's ever been posted on this ng, and given
"New Haven"'s track record, I rather doubt this is accurate now, if it
ever was.
NEW HAVEN U25B wrote:
>
> SIRT is a Railroad operation and not a subway system like NYCTA and
> employees are bound by CSX rules and regulations as well as being BLE and
> UTU union members than TWU as all NYCTA employees. An SIRT conductor is on
> board every train and collects fares between St. George and Totenville in
> common railroad commuter train fashion. There is no free ride anywhere on
> the SIRT. SIRT is separate from the NYCTA system. If there were an NYCTA
> strike, the SIRT would be unaffected and remain operating. Jerome
> >
> > Is it free to travel on the Staten Island Railway if I am going between
> > two points on the island. The web site suggests that fares are only
> > collected at the ferry terminal?
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"Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Now I have never been on S.I. except to turn around on the Ferry or to
> drive from one of the N.J. bridges to the Verazzano, but this is
> contrary to everything that's ever been posted on this ng, and given
> "New Haven"'s track record, I rather doubt this is accurate now, if it
> ever was.
The part about the unions is right.
Al Holmes
the only ticket inspection was at St George, where I had to swipe my
Metrocard. The timetable I picked up states that tickets are only
inspected at St George, implying that it is free to travel between
intermediate stations. Is this a reason why most peak hour trains
skip the station nearest to St George, so that passengers to/from the
ferry cannot walk to it and thus avoid the fare?
Al Holmes
NEW HAVEN U25B
ferry ride to and from Battery Park and St George which was made free some
years ago.
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> Now I have never been on S.I. except to turn around on the Ferry or to
> drive from one of the N.J. bridges to the Verazzano, but this is
> contrary to everything that's ever been posted on this ng, and given
> "New Haven"'s track record, I rather doubt this is accurate now, if it
> ever was.
>
> NEW HAVEN U25B wrote:
> >
> > SIRT is a Railroad operation and not a subway system like NYCTA and
> > employees are bound by CSX rules and regulations as well as being BLE
and
> > UTU union members than TWU as all NYCTA employees. An SIRT conductor is
on
> > board every train and collects fares between St. George and Totenville
in
> > common railroad commuter train fashion. There is no free ride anywhere
on
> > the SIRT. SIRT is separate from the NYCTA system. If there were an NYCTA
> > strike, the SIRT would be unaffected and remain operating. Jerome
> > >
> > > Is it free to travel on the Staten Island Railway if I am going
between
> > > two points on the island. The web site suggests that fares are only
> > > collected at the ferry terminal?
> --
> Peter T. Daniels gram...@worldnet.att.net
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> two points on the island. The web site suggests that fares are only
> collected at the ferry terminal?
I haven't rode SIRT lately, but apparently that is the case.
It would cost more to collect the few intra-SIRT fares than revenue
received. Almost all riders are going to the ferry.
Don't forget Staten Island has an extensive bus network as well.
> Could someone please explain how the fare system works on the railway?
> Also, are Metrocards accepted? I will be moving to the NYC area soon
> and would like to know.
AFAIK, fares are collected in both directions at the St. George ferry
terminal. Metro card is accepted AND usable for a free transfer upon
arrival in Manhattan (per the web site).
Hank Eisenstein
being accepted, you are entitled to a free transfer to the subway or bus at
Whitehall, in addition to a free transfer from a feeder bus to the SIR.
Again, only with Metrocard.
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"Bill Heitner" <ams...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:25:14 -0700, Peter Rosa
> <prosa123...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >[Is it free to travel on the Staten Island Railway if I am going
> >between two points on the island. The web site suggests that
> >fares are only collected at the ferry terminal?
> >Could someone please explain how the fare system works on the
> >railway? Also, are Metrocards accepted? I will be moving to the
Hank Eisenstein
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> SIRT is a Railroad operation and not a subway system like NYCTA and
> employees are bound by CSX rules and regulations as well as being BLE and
> UTU union members than TWU as all NYCTA employees. An SIRT conductor is on
> board every train and collects fares between St. George and Totenville in
> common railroad commuter train fashion. There is no free ride anywhere on
> the SIRT. SIRT is separate from the NYCTA system. If there were an NYCTA
> strike, the SIRT would be unaffected and remain operating. Jerome
> >
> > Is it free to travel on the Staten Island Railway if I am going between
> > two points on the island. The web site suggests that fares are only
> > collected at the ferry terminal?
> >
> > Could someone please explain how the fare system works on the railway?
> > Also, are Metrocards accepted? I will be moving to the NYC area soon
> > and would like to know.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
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Hank Eisenstein
fare collection and operations info. The entire line from AK Bridge to St.
George to Tottenville is owned by the city, and only the St.
George-Tottenville section is in service. Service is operated by the MTA.
Employees of the SIRy are MTA, not NYCTA personnel, and are members of the
BLE (the local escapes me at the moment).
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"NEW HAVEN U25B" <ERIE-LA...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> When I rode SIRT last, fare collection was as stated and I paid for the
> ferry ride to and from Battery Park and St George which was made free some
> years ago.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <nyc.t...@list.deja.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 7:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Staten Island Railway
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> > Now I have never been on S.I. except to turn around on the Ferry or to
> > drive from one of the N.J. bridges to the Verazzano, but this is
> > contrary to everything that's ever been posted on this ng, and given
> > "New Haven"'s track record, I rather doubt this is accurate now, if it
> > ever was.
> >
> > NEW HAVEN U25B wrote:
> > >
> > > SIRT is a Railroad operation and not a subway system like NYCTA and
> > > employees are bound by CSX rules and regulations as well as being BLE
> and
> > > UTU union members than TWU as all NYCTA employees. An SIRT conductor
is
> on
> > > board every train and collects fares between St. George and Totenville
> in
> > > common railroad commuter train fashion. There is no free ride anywhere
> on
> > > the SIRT. SIRT is separate from the NYCTA system. If there were an
NYCTA
> > > strike, the SIRT would be unaffected and remain operating. Jerome
> > > >
> > > > Is it free to travel on the Staten Island Railway if I am going
> between
> > > > two points on the island. The web site suggests that fares are only
> > > > collected at the ferry terminal?
> > --
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> >
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Gramere-Clifton, or Cifton-Stapleton-Tompkinsville. Always have. When
there was on-board collection, fare was collected by conductors only at St.
George (Ferry), Grasmere (s53 to Brooklyn) and Tompkinsville (Walk to Ferry,
Tompkinsville-St. George business district, along with 3 high schools), and
randomly at other stations.
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"Al Holmes" <al.h...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I travelled on it about 2 weeks ago whilst on vacation from London and
> the only ticket inspection was at St George, where I had to swipe my
> Metrocard. The timetable I picked up states that tickets are only
> inspected at St George, implying that it is free to travel between
> intermediate stations. Is this a reason why most peak hour trains
> skip the station nearest to St George, so that passengers to/from the
> ferry cannot walk to it and thus avoid the fare?
>
> Al Holmes
>
Hank Eisenstein
bus with Metrocard, transfer free to SIR, and again to a bus or subway in
Manhattan. If you pay cash fare on the bus, your paper transfer is good on
SIR, but only from a Staten Island bus.
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> most people use buses as part of their trip that also uses the sirt. as
such
> they are paying one fare and not multiple in line with the metrocard one
> fare/free xfer policy.
CPAMARV
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"Al Holmes" <al.h...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I travelled on it about 2 weeks ago whilst on vacation from London and
> the only ticket inspection was at St George, where I had to swipe my
> Metrocard. The timetable I picked up states that tickets are only
> inspected at St George, implying that it is free to travel between
> intermediate stations. Is this a reason why most peak hour trains
> skip the station nearest to St George, so that passengers to/from the
> ferry cannot walk to it and thus avoid the fare?
It might not have skipped it. Because of ongoing construction there, only
the frontmost door leaf in the rear car is opened.
> Al Holmes
kenneth lin
"Hank Eisenstein" <nix...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> 96%, according to the last figures I saw. Also, in addition to Metrocards
> being accepted, you are entitled to a free transfer to the subway or bus
at
> Whitehall, in addition to a free transfer from a feeder bus to the SIR.
> Again, only with Metrocard.
Although you can use a Staten Island bus transfer to transfer free to SIR by
swiping through the turnstiles at St. George terminal.
Kenneth Lin
Chris Wendl
> Employees of the SIRy are MTA, not NYCTA personnel, and are members of the
i'd always assumed the MTA and NYCTA were the same thing... what's the
difference?
lmpshd
Michael549
station where to entire the train platforms users must swipe their Metrocards
or use a token. When leaving the station, users must swipe thier Metrocards or
use a token. Only the St. George station has a token booth allowing the
purchase of tokens and Metrocards. A supplemental token booth on the main
level of the Ferry Terminal was removed some time ago - leaving this token
booth and a few fare card machines as the only MTA-place to purchase Metrocards
on the island.
All of the other stations do not have token booths, fare collection equipment
or an extensive shelter, and in many cases no seating. Until the
"one-city/one-fare" policy was put in place, on-board conductors collected
fares and distributed paper transfers for buses. The longest trains consist of
4 cars of type R-46 subway car.
Yes, some trains skip the Tompkinsville station - a station within a ten minute
walk from the Ferry terminal. It could be stop riders from "taking a free ride
to the terminal" or simply to speed up the ride by by-passing a little used
station.
At times other than rush hour, from the Tompkinsville station - a rider could
travel to any other station (except St. George) for free.
I hope this helps.
Michael
Steven M. O'Neill
>The Staten Island Railway is free for all stations except the St. George
>station where to entire the train platforms users must swipe their Metrocards
>or use a token. When leaving the station, users must swipe thier Metrocards or
>use a token.
If you use your MetroCard, can you use it for a free transfer to the
subway later?
--
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lwin
>
> i'd always assumed the MTA and NYCTA were the same thing... what's the
> difference?
They are not.
The "MTA" is the parent agency over seveal different transportation
agencies. Those agencies are independent from each other.
They include (legal names used, marketing names may vary).
NYCTA--New York City Transit Authority--buses and subways in the
City of New York.
SIRTOA--Staten Island Rapid Transit Operating Authority--SIRT.
Becomming integrated in the NYCTA administratively.
MABSTOA--Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority--
some bus routes. Has been integrated mostly in the NYCTA. Not
visible to passengers (except buses are labeled with it.)
LIRR--Long Island Rail Road.
MNRR--Metro North Railroad.
TBTA--Triboro Bridge & Tunnel Authority. Bridges & Tunnels.
AFAIK, employees of the above organizations are represented by
separate unions and seniority (except maybe MABSTOA and NYCTA)..
Michael549
after using the Staten Island Railway.
Hope this helps.
Michael
Subject: Re: Staten Island Railway
From: ste...@panix.com (Steven M. O'Neill)
Date: 15 Jun 2000 14:39:39 -0400
Joel Rubin
wrote:
>
>> Employees of the SIRy are MTA, not NYCTA personnel, and are members of the
>
>i'd always assumed the MTA and NYCTA were the same thing... what's the
>difference?
>
The SIRR web pages are reached from the MTA home page by clicking on
NYCTA.
Are there still distinctions made between bus drivers on the old
MABSTOA lines like the M-4 and the drivers on the old NYCTA lines like
the M-15?
I seem to remember that Green Line drivers weren't on strike in 1965
because they were Amalgamated rather than TWU whereas Green Line
employees on the Triboro Coach and Jamaica Bus divisions were.
Joseph D. Korman
TWU:
TA - Brooklyn and 126th depot in Manhattan
OA - All other Manhattan Depots and all Bronx depots
(some of the depots located in Manhattan are part of the
Bronx Division)
All of the subway employees are TWU.
Generally all of the TWU negotiate together, with side agreements
for each department.
ATU - Staten Island
ATU - Queens
Each ATU has its own contract and rules. In fact the Queens
local only signed their agreement about a week ago.
lwin wrote:
>
> > > Employees of the SIRy are MTA, not NYCTA personnel, and are members of the
> >
> > i'd always assumed the MTA and NYCTA were the same thing... what's the
> > difference?
>
> They are not.
>
> The "MTA" is the parent agency over seveal different transportation
> agencies. Those agencies are independent from each other.
> They include (legal names used, marketing names may vary).
>
> NYCTA--New York City Transit Authority--buses and subways in the
> City of New York.
>
> SIRTOA--Staten Island Rapid Transit Operating Authority--SIRT.
> Becomming integrated in the NYCTA administratively.
>
> MABSTOA--Manhattan and Bronx Surface Transit Operating Authority--
> some bus routes. Has been integrated mostly in the NYCTA. Not
> visible to passengers (except buses are labeled with it.)
>
> LIRR--Long Island Rail Road.
>
> MNRR--Metro North Railroad.
>
> TBTA--Triboro Bridge & Tunnel Authority. Bridges & Tunnels.
>
> AFAIK, employees of the above organizations are represented by
> separate unions and seniority (except maybe MABSTOA and NYCTA)..
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> (some of the depots located in Manhattan are part of the Bronx
> Division)
Why is this, BTW? The two that come to mind, MCH and Amsterdam, serve
primarily or exclusively Manhattan routes. There must be some
historical significance to the divisions.
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"David J. Greenberger" <gren...@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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> "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > (some of the depots located in Manhattan are part of the Bronx
> > Division)
>
> Why is this, BTW? The two that come to mind, MCH and Amsterdam, serve
> primarily or exclusively Manhattan routes. There must be some
> historical significance to the divisions.
The other one is Kingsbridge, which is in Manhattan.
Not completely inaccurate as the King's Bridge linked Manhattan with the
Bronx. Still does, it's just buried under the now gone Spuyten Duyvil Creek.
Fresh Pond Depot, physically in Queens is in the Brooklyn Division.
Joseph D. Korman
give the managers more local authority) about 15 years ago, six
divisions were made. Manhattan was split North and South.
I may be off but, I think it was this:
South: Hudson, 54th, 100th
North: Amsterdam, Kingsbridge, 146th, 126th (TA)
Bronx: Walnut, Gun Hill, Coliseum
When Manhattan was consolidated, some of the upper depots were
given to the Bronx to balance the size of each division. Since
all but 126th share the same rules and seniority list, it didn't
matter that some depots are in the 'wrong' borough.
Since then depots have been closed and other opened and this
continues as old facilities are rehabbed or replaced.
--
Peter T. Daniels
>
> When the current bus divisions were formed (to
> give the managers more local authority) about 15 years ago, six
> divisions were made. Manhattan was split North and South.
>
> I may be off but, I think it was this:
>
> South: Hudson, 54th, 100th
> North: Amsterdam, Kingsbridge, 146th, 126th (TA)
> Bronx: Walnut, Gun Hill, Coliseum
What's "Coliseum" named for? The RKO Coliseum was at 181st & Broadway
(now it's horridly chopped into retail spaces, with the magnificent
marquee gone, but I think maybe movies are still shown somewhere
within). I saw most of my movies there ... I remember *Cleopatra* for
50c in 196?. The other local one was Loew's 175th, which is now Rev.
Ike's Temple (and beautifully restored -- they had theater organ
concerts and silent films, free, on Saturday afternoons. The last
commercial movie shown before the transfer was *2001*).
> When Manhattan was consolidated, some of the upper depots were
> given to the Bronx to balance the size of each division. Since
> all but 126th share the same rules and seniority list, it didn't
> matter that some depots are in the 'wrong' borough.
>
> Since then depots have been closed and other opened and this
> continues as old facilities are rehabbed or replaced.
Joseph D. Korman
Bronx, was a sports arena in Philadelphia. It was taken brick by
brick to the Bronx. It was a depot as far back as I can remember
there (25+ years), but then again I grew up in Brooklyn ;-)
I don't know if it was used as a sport arena in the Bronx before
becoming a depot. BTW it's been torn down for a new building, I
don't know the current status.
--
Peter T. Daniels
lwin
> Bronx, was a sports arena in Philadelphia. It was taken brick by
> brick to the Bronx. It was a depot as far back as I can remember
> there (25+ years), but then again I grew up in Brooklyn ;-)
Huh?
What was it in Philadelphia?
Joseph D. Korman
the highway. It was in one of those valleys that the highway
passes over.
As to pictures, I'm a railfan not a ... ;-)
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
>
> Where was it? Any pix? Why would anyone do such a thing?
>
> Joseph D. Korman wrote:
> >
> > Believe it or not, the building that was the Coliseum in the
> > Bronx, was a sports arena in Philadelphia. It was taken brick by
> > brick to the Bronx. It was a depot as far back as I can remember
> > there (25+ years), but then again I grew up in Brooklyn ;-)
> >
> > I don't know if it was used as a sport arena in the Bronx before
> > becoming a depot. BTW it's been torn down for a new building, I
> > don't know the current status.
> >
> > "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > >
> > > Joseph D. Korman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When the current bus divisions were formed (to
> > > > give the managers more local authority) about 15 years ago, six
> > > > divisions were made. Manhattan was split North and South.
> > > >
> > > > I may be off but, I think it was this:
> > > >
> > > > South: Hudson, 54th, 100th
> > > > North: Amsterdam, Kingsbridge, 146th, 126th (TA)
> > > > Bronx: Walnut, Gun Hill, Coliseum
> > >
> > > What's "Coliseum" named for? The RKO Coliseum was at 181st & Broadway
> > > (now it's horridly chopped into retail spaces, with the magnificent
> > > marquee gone, but I think maybe movies are still shown somewhere
> > > within). I saw most of my movies there ... I remember *Cleopatra* for
> > > 50c in 196?. The other local one was Loew's 175th, which is now Rev.
> > > Ike's Temple (and beautifully restored -- they had theater organ
> > > concerts and silent films, free, on Saturday afternoons. The last
> > > commercial movie shown before the transfer was *2001*).
> --
> Peter T. Daniels gram...@worldnet.att.net
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lwin wrote:
>
> > Believe it or not, the building that was the Coliseum in the
> > Bronx, was a sports arena in Philadelphia. It was taken brick by
> > brick to the Bronx. It was a depot as far back as I can remember
> > there (25+ years), but then again I grew up in Brooklyn ;-)
>
> Huh?
>
> What was it in Philadelphia?
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> > Believe it or not, the building that was the Coliseum in the
> > Bronx, was a sports arena in Philadelphia. It was taken brick by
> > brick to the Bronx. It was a depot as far back as I can remember
> > there (25+ years), but then again I grew up in Brooklyn ;-)
>
> Huh?
>
> What was it in Philadelphia?
Bachmann the makers of model trains and Plasticville buildings which is what
this building called the Coliseum from Philly to the Bronx was JR
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replacement. The old depot was condemned.
-Hank
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"Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I know it was visible from the westbound Cross Bronx, north of
> the highway. It was in one of those valleys that the highway
> passes over.
>
> As to pictures, I'm a railfan not a ... ;-)
>
> "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> >
> > Where was it? Any pix? Why would anyone do such a thing?
> >
> > Joseph D. Korman wrote:
> > >
> > > Believe it or not, the building that was the Coliseum in the
> > > Bronx, was a sports arena in Philadelphia. It was taken brick by
> > > brick to the Bronx. It was a depot as far back as I can remember
> > > there (25+ years), but then again I grew up in Brooklyn ;-)
> > >
> > > I don't know if it was used as a sport arena in the Bronx before
> > > becoming a depot. BTW it's been torn down for a new building, I
> > > don't know the current status.
> > >
> > > "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Joseph D. Korman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > When the current bus divisions were formed (to
> > > > > give the managers more local authority) about 15 years ago, six
> > > > > divisions were made. Manhattan was split North and South.
> > > > >
> > > > > I may be off but, I think it was this:
> > > > >
> > > > > South: Hudson, 54th, 100th
> > > > > North: Amsterdam, Kingsbridge, 146th, 126th (TA)
> > > > > Bronx: Walnut, Gun Hill, Coliseum
> > > >
> > > > What's "Coliseum" named for? The RKO Coliseum was at 181st &
Broadway
> > > > (now it's horridly chopped into retail spaces, with the magnificent
> > > > marquee gone, but I think maybe movies are still shown somewhere
> > > > within). I saw most of my movies there ... I remember *Cleopatra*
for
> > > > 50c in 196?. The other local one was Loew's 175th, which is now Rev.
> > > > Ike's Temple (and beautifully restored -- they had theater organ
> > > > concerts and silent films, free, on Saturday afternoons. The last
> > > > commercial movie shown before the transfer was *2001*).
> > --
> > Peter T. Daniels gram...@worldnet.att.net
>
Hank Eisenstein
including TBTA, SIRTOA, MaBSTOA, MSBA, LIRR, MNCR, and NYCTA.
-Hank
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"Joel Rubin" <jmr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 11:20:34 -0400, Chris Wendl <wen...@cims.nyu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Employees of the SIRy are MTA, not NYCTA personnel, and are members of
the
> >
> >i'd always assumed the MTA and NYCTA were the same thing... what's the
> >difference?
> >
Hank Eisenstein
-Hank
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"Michael549" <micha...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The Staten Island Railway is free for all stations except the St. George
> station where to entire the train platforms users must swipe their
Metrocards
> or use a token. When leaving the station, users must swipe thier
Metrocards or
Hank Eisenstein
-Hank
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"Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> WHAT site??
>
> Hank Eisenstein wrote:
> >
> > It's gone, and the building now on the site is the partially-constructed
> > replacement. The old depot was condemned.
> > -Hank
> >
> > --
> > http://www.quuxuum.org/~nixon Amateur Photographer
> > ni...@quuxuum.org Fire-Emergency Services
> > Hank Eisenstein Transit-NY Metro
> > Staten Island, NY AOL IM: Hank21k
> > Let's Go Mets!!
> > "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:394FFB47...@earthlink.net...
> > > I know it was visible from the westbound Cross Bronx, north of
> > > the highway. It was in one of those valleys that the highway
> > > passes over.
> > >
> > > As to pictures, I'm a railfan not a ... ;-)
> > >
> > > "Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Where was it? Any pix? Why would anyone do such a thing?
> > > >
> > > > Joseph D. Korman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Believe it or not, the building that was the Coliseum in the
> > > > > Bronx, was a sports arena in Philadelphia. It was taken brick by
> > > > > brick to the Bronx. It was a depot as far back as I can remember
> > > > > there (25+ years), but then again I grew up in Brooklyn ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know if it was used as a sport arena in the Bronx before
> > > > > becoming a depot. BTW it's been torn down for a new building, I
> > > > > don't know the current status.
Peter T. Daniels
Peter T. Daniels
Hank Eisenstein wrote:
>
> Site of the former Coliseum Depot.
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:395170...@worldnet.att.net...
> > WHAT site??
> >
> > Hank Eisenstein wrote:
> > >
> > > It's gone, and the building now on the site is the partially-constructed
> > > replacement. The old depot was condemned.
> > > -Hank
> > > "Joseph D. Korman" <joe...@earthlink.net> wrote in message