Agent with Wine and Mandrake 9.1?
Alex Heney
Is anybody else running the combination in the title?
I have been running Agent under wine and Mandrake 8.2 for several
months now, with no problems.
But last week, I upgraded to Mandrake 9.1, and suddenly Agent can no
longer update its index files. I keep getting "Unable to rename
primary: DOS error 19".
The files appear to have the same permissions set as they do on my
laptop, where it is still working fine under 8.2 (the files are copied
from the laptop when I arrive home at the weekend, and back again
before I leave for the week). They are also OK if I boot up Windows
and run Agent directly - but that is no use, since I am using leafnode
as a local server.
Has anybody come across a similar problem?
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Rein Klazes
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent Alex Heney <a.j....@invalid.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is anybody else running the combination in the title?
>
> I have been running Agent under wine and Mandrake 8.2 for several
> months now, with no problems.
>
> But last week, I upgraded to Mandrake 9.1, and suddenly Agent can no
> longer update its index files. I keep getting "Unable to rename
> primary: DOS error 19".
>
> The files appear to have the same permissions set as they do on my
> laptop, where it is still working fine under 8.2 (the files are copied
> from the laptop when I arrive home at the weekend, and back again
> before I leave for the week). They are also OK if I boot up Windows
> and run Agent directly - but that is no use, since I am using leafnode
> as a local server.
>
> Has anybody come across a similar problem?
Which wine are you using?
No doubt your problems are related to the new glibc with the new
threading code (aka NPTL) that comes with Mandrake 9.1
As a quick work-around try:
export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5
before invoking the wine command.
The better solution is to find a wine compiled for your Mandrake 9.1 or
compile it yourself. This must be Wine-20030408 or later and configure
must be invoked with: ./configure --with-nptl
Same problem may arise with Suse 8.2 and Red Hat 9.
Rein.
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rkl...@xs4all.nl
Alex Heney
<rkl...@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
wine --version
>Which wine are you using?
>
20030219
>No doubt your problems are related to the new glibc with the new
>threading code (aka NPTL) that comes with Mandrake 9.1
>
>As a quick work-around try:
>
>export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5
>
>before invoking the wine command.
>
>The better solution is to find a wine compiled for your Mandrake 9.1 or
>compile it yourself. This must be Wine-20030408 or later and configure
>must be invoked with: ./configure --with-nptl
>
>Same problem may arise with Suse 8.2 and Red Hat 9.
>
Thanks. I'll try that on Friday when I get home.
The version I have now was installed from a binary RPM, although I had
originally installed wine from the source on my first copy of Mandrake
8.1.
Alex Heney
<rkl...@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote:
OK.
I did that, and it now allows me to update the files OK. It even lets
me access the news server if I specify my ISP news server,.
But I don't want to do that, because I have been running leafnode for
some time now, in order to access both btinternet and news.cis.dfn.de
servers.
Unfortunately, if I leave it with "localhost" in the server option, it
fails with the following error. (There are several others, but I only
seem t be able to paste the text that *was* on the clipboard when I
started Agent.)
fixme:ras:RasEnumConnectionsA RAS support is not implemented:
Configure program to use LAN connection/winsock instead:
Is there something I need to set in the wine config to deal with this?
It used to work fine connecting to localhost, and still does on my
laptop (Mandrake 8.2, wine 20030219). I am using Mandrake 9.1, wine
20030408, recompiled from the source (but not using wineinstall, just
using configure with the option you suggested, make depend, make, make
install)
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Rein Klazes
> OK.
>
> I did that, and it now allows me to update the files OK. It even lets
> me access the news server if I specify my ISP news server,.
>
> But I don't want to do that, because I have been running leafnode for
> some time now, in order to access both btinternet and news.cis.dfn.de
> servers.
>
> Unfortunately, if I leave it with "localhost" in the server option, it
> fails with the following error. (There are several others, but I only
> seem t be able to paste the text that *was* on the clipboard when I
> started Agent.)
It helps if you put in your config:
[Clipboard]
"ClearAllSelections" = "1"
for me that does not solve all the problems however.
>
> fixme:ras:RasEnumConnectionsA RAS support is not implemented:
> Configure program to use LAN connection/winsock instead:
This is normal, you can ignore this message.
> Is there something I need to set in the wine config to deal with this?
No, it is normal. Does Agent report anything, perhaps on the status bar?
If you type in a terminal "telnet localhost nntp", do you get connected
with your newsserver?
>
> It used to work fine connecting to localhost, and still does on my
> laptop (Mandrake 8.2, wine 20030219). I am using Mandrake 9.1, wine
> 20030408, recompiled from the source (but not using wineinstall, just
> using configure with the option you suggested, make depend, make, make
> install)
OK.
Alex Heney
<rkl...@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 2 May 2003 23:43:19 +0000 (UTC), in
>alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent Alex Heney <a.j....@invalid.com>
>wrote:
>
>> OK.
>>
>> I did that, and it now allows me to update the files OK. It even lets
>> me access the news server if I specify my ISP news server,.
>>
>> But I don't want to do that, because I have been running leafnode for
>> some time now, in order to access both btinternet and news.cis.dfn.de
>> servers.
>>
>> Unfortunately, if I leave it with "localhost" in the server option, it
>> fails with the following error. (There are several others, but I only
>> seem t be able to paste the text that *was* on the clipboard when I
>> started Agent.)
>
>It helps if you put in your config:
>
>[Clipboard]
>"ClearAllSelections" = "1"
>
OK. Tried that, and setting persistent selections to 0. Neither seem
to help much :-(
>for me that does not solve all the problems however.
>
>>
>> fixme:ras:RasEnumConnectionsA RAS support is not implemented:
>> Configure program to use LAN connection/winsock instead:
>
>This is normal, you can ignore this message.
>
>> Is there something I need to set in the wine config to deal with this?
>
>No, it is normal. Does Agent report anything, perhaps on the status bar?
>
No. When it fails, it just locks completely, and does not respond to
any keypresses or mouse actions at all.
The only way out is to kill wine.
>If you type in a terminal "telnet localhost nntp", do you get connected
>with your newsserver?
>>
>> It used to work fine connecting to localhost, and still does on my
>> laptop (Mandrake 8.2, wine 20030219). I am using Mandrake 9.1, wine
>> 20030408, recompiled from the source (but not using wineinstall, just
>> using configure with the option you suggested, make depend, make, make
>> install)
>
Hmmm.
I've discovered a bit more.
It *usually* seems to work if I only operate on one group at a time,
but not always. It always seems to fail if I carry out a server
operation (sample headers, get new headers in selected/subscribed,
etc) on multiple groups from the menu.
When it fails, agent just locks up, and refuses to respond to
anything, with no error messages.
Sometimes, when it locks up, the log messages finish with one or two
occurrences of
fixme:mdi:MDIRefreshMenu partially function stub.
But not always.
Rein Klazes
>
> >If you type in a terminal "telnet localhost nntp", do you get connected
> >with your newsserver?
Did you try that? I expect it to work fine, but it would be nice to be
sure.
> Hmmm.
>
> I've discovered a bit more.
>
> It *usually* seems to work if I only operate on one group at a time,
> but not always. It always seems to fail if I carry out a server
> operation (sample headers, get new headers in selected/subscribed,
> etc) on multiple groups from the menu.
>
> When it fails, agent just locks up, and refuses to respond to
> anything, with no error messages.
>
> Sometimes, when it locks up, the log messages finish with one or two
> occurrences of
> fixme:mdi:MDIRefreshMenu partially function stub.
Always a harmless message.
Strange problem altogether: connecting to localhost should not make any
difference nor single or multiple group commands. I am getting more and
more the impression from your experiences, and some other reports that I
got, that there are still bugs lurking in the new threading code.
I am running Debian unstable, that does not include the glibc 2.3.2 yet,
that may or may not explain why I don't see the problems.
Since there have been some fixes applied to the wine code since the last
release it may be the best to test that. Could you try to download the
latest cvs version (or wait upto 1 or 2 weeks for a new release) and see
if your problems still exist?
Alex Heney
<rkl...@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 4 May 2003 00:45:22 +0000 (UTC), in
>alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent Alex Heney <a.j....@invalid.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>
>> >If you type in a terminal "telnet localhost nntp", do you get connected
>> >with your newsserver?
>
>Did you try that? I expect it to work fine, but it would be nice to be
>sure.
>
Yes.
It worked fine.
>
>> Hmmm.
>>
>> I've discovered a bit more.
>>
<snip>
>Always a harmless message.
>
>Strange problem altogether: connecting to localhost should not make any
>difference nor single or multiple group commands. I am getting more and
>more the impression from your experiences, and some other reports that I
>got, that there are still bugs lurking in the new threading code.
>I am running Debian unstable, that does not include the glibc 2.3.2 yet,
>that may or may not explain why I don't see the problems.
>
>Since there have been some fixes applied to the wine code since the last
>release it may be the best to test that. Could you try to download the
>latest cvs version (or wait upto 1 or 2 weeks for a new release) and see
>if your problems still exist?
>
OK. I'll probably wait two weeks, because I'm using the laptop during
the week, and will be very busy next weekend.
I'll let you know how I get on with it when I do try.
Thanks for your help.
Alex Heney
<rkl...@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
>Strange problem altogether: connecting to localhost should not make any
>difference nor single or multiple group commands. I am getting more and
>more the impression from your experiences, and some other reports that I
>got, that there are still bugs lurking in the new threading code.
>I am running Debian unstable, that does not include the glibc 2.3.2 yet,
>that may or may not explain why I don't see the problems.
>
>Since there have been some fixes applied to the wine code since the last
>release it may be the best to test that. Could you try to download the
>latest cvs version (or wait upto 1 or 2 weeks for a new release) and see
>if your problems still exist?
>
OK, I installed a new version of wine tonight, 20030508, and it seems
to have made no difference. I am still getting lock ups if I try to
select several groups and do a download command on them.
Since it takes just over an hour to compile on my PC (PII 350), I
don't really want to do this too often :-)
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Rein Klazes
alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent Alex Heney <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >Since there have been some fixes applied to the wine code since the last
> >release it may be the best to test that. Could you try to download the
> >latest cvs version (or wait upto 1 or 2 weeks for a new release) and see
> >if your problems still exist?
> >
>
> OK, I installed a new version of wine tonight, 20030508, and it seems
> to have made no difference. I am still getting lock ups if I try to
> select several groups and do a download command on them.
Can you send me the the debugging output this way:
run agent like:
wine --debugmsg +relay,+winsock -- agent.exe &>agent.log
compress the log that is created:
gzip agent.log
or better:
bzip2 agent.log
And mail me the resulting agent.log.gz or agent.log.bz2
(if too big put it on the net and send me the URL)