The hunt for HipCrime has begun!
--
Travis Bemann
#HipCrime has gone too far. He has turned entire newsgroups (such as this
#one) unusable with his cancels and supersedes.
Do you know how to operate the delete key? I've never seen any group
unusable by those who know how that key functions.
# He has done this with near
#impunity. The time has come to track down HipCrime, unmask him, and shut
#him down. Yes, he may easily switch ISPs, but this will slow him down,
#and it will send a message to him and the rest of the world that his
#behavior will not be tolerated. Also, unmasking him will end the
#protection that his anonymity gives him. Earlier in the 1990s, people
#went to great lengths to shut down cancelbots and cancellers such as the
#CancelBunny, the pseudosite cancels, Crusader, etc. We should treat
#HipCrime the same way as we treated these other instances. Tracking down
#and shutting down HipCrime will be just as difficult as tracking down and
#shutting down those instances above.
You sure have your history screwed up. None were ever tracked down.
Posting locations were shut down. Look at how much effort people in
alt.religion.scientology have put forth to trace sporgeries and scientology
text postings. Nobody has been tracked down. Again, only posting
locations were shut down. a.r.s has had it's share of every type
of action imaginable for over 4 years now.
#It will require things like
#monitoring the timing and propagation of the cancels from multiple
#locations. It will require the cooperation of many different newsadmins
#and Usenet users. We know HipCrime's ISP, but we don't currently have any
#proof that these supersedes are coming from HipCrime. It will be
#difficult to do this. It will be even more difficult to find HipCrime's
#identity in real life.
Does your mother know you are doing this, naughty boy?
The hunter frequently becomes the prey. I doubt that
your family would like that.
#The hunt for HipCrime has begun!
FWIW, Ian Hayes has been hunting him (unsucessfully) for
well over 2 years. It isn't going to happen.
--
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on 4 May 1998 02:57:07 GMT in article <6ijaq3$b...@news1.panix.com>:
# Guy Polis (g...@panix.com, evi...@bway.net) is a pedophile child
# molester who was fired from his consulting position at Salomon Brothers
# after he was caught masturbating in his cubicle at the child pornography
# JPEGs that he downloaded from the Internet.
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+ HipCrime has gone too far.
Really?
+ He has turned entire newsgroups (such as this one) unusable with his cancels
+ and supersedes.
I hadn't noticed. I think a combination of my killfiles and someone(s)
cleaning up DipSlime's latest tantrum. Oh, I had to tweak my killfile,
but that took two minutes...
+ The time has come to track down HipCrime, unmask him, and shut
+ him down.
Nah, he isn't worth the time. You're giving him what he wants,
attention. He enjoys being called the most dangerous 'bot on usenet.
Please don't feed the DipSlime.
+ The hunt for HipCrime has begun!
Let us know when you find him. In the mean time, I think I'll make fun
of DipSlime again...
DipSlime: another annoying pimple on the ass of Usenet.
James
--
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#On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:02:45 -0600, Travis Bemann <bem...@execpc.com>, in
#<3825a14c$0$29...@news.execpc.com> wrote:
#
#+ HipCrime has gone too far.
#
#Really?
#
#+ He has turned entire newsgroups (such as this one) unusable with his cancels
#+ and supersedes.
#
#I hadn't noticed. I think a combination of my killfiles and someone(s)
#cleaning up DipSlime's latest tantrum. Oh, I had to tweak my killfile,
#but that took two minutes...
#
#+ The time has come to track down HipCrime, unmask him, and shut
#+ him down.
#
#Nah, he isn't worth the time. You're giving him what he wants,
#attention. He enjoys being called the most dangerous 'bot on usenet.
#Please don't feed the DipSlime.
#
#+ The hunt for HipCrime has begun!
#
#Let us know when you find him. In the mean time, I think I'll make fun
#of DipSlime again...
#
#DipSlime: another annoying pimple on the ass of Usenet.
It would be next to impossible to define "the ass" of usenet.
There are many prime contenders.
> It would be next to impossible to define "the ass" of usenet.
> There are many prime contenders.
Well, you will not be winning any election.
Had your mind on something else, did you? Took me 45 seconds.
Gym "Get full headers from latest examples, copy nntp-posting-host,
add to global KILLfile." Quirk
--
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(Known to some as Taki Kogoma) | demonstrates that it would be
quirk @ swcp.com | superior to what I have now."
Veteran of the '91 sf-lovers re-org. | -- Gym Quirk
What did you do for the one's without a NNTP-Posting-Host: header?
Chuck Demas
Needham, Mass.
--
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Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well,
Die Anyway | v | That no one could find fault with it.
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#Rabbi Ernst Zundel <zun...@talmudstudies.edu>
#wrote in message news:3832bfec....@talmudstudies.edu...
#
#> It would be next to impossible to define "the ass" of usenet.
#> There are many prime contenders.
#
#Well, you will not be winning any election.
*sniff* I love you too.
#In article <804fgk$6...@llama.swcp.com>,
#Taki Kogoma <qu...@swcp.com> wrote:
#>In <slrn82bf23....@gurcragntba.pbz> on news.admin.net-abuse.usenet,
#>
#>sy_n...@gurcragntba.pbz (I R A Darth Aggie) allegedly proclaimed:
#>>On Sun,
#>>07 Nov 1999 10:02:45 -0600, Travis Bemann <bem...@execpc.com>, in
#>><3825a14c$0$29...@news.execpc.com> wrote:
#>>+ He has turned entire newsgroups (such as this one) unusable with
#>>his cancels + and supersedes.
#>>
#>>I hadn't noticed. I think a combination of my killfiles and someone(s)
#>>cleaning up DipSlime's latest tantrum. Oh, I had to tweak my killfile,
#>>but that took two minutes...
#>
#>Had your mind on something else, did you? Took me 45 seconds.
#>
#>Gym "Get full headers from latest examples, copy nntp-posting-host,
#> add to global KILLfile." Quirk
#
#What did you do for the one's without a NNTP-Posting-Host: header?
Just put "tiac" in the path header. It should work for you every time.
Spend an extra 30-60 seconds looking at the path for likely injection
point and using that instead.
--
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
-- Gene "spaf" Spafford (1992)
+ > DipSlime: another annoying pimple on the ass of Usenet.
+ Please don't insult the pimples on my ass by comparing them to DipSlime.
You're not Fluffy.
>HipCrime has gone too far. He has turned entire newsgroups (such as this
>one) unusable with his cancels and supersedes. He has done this with near
>impunity. The time has come to track down HipCrime, unmask him, and shut
>him down. Yes, he may easily switch ISPs, but this will slow him down,
>and it will send a message to him and the rest of the world that his
>behavior will not be tolerated. Also, unmasking him will end the
>protection that his anonymity gives him. Earlier in the 1990s, people
>went to great lengths to shut down cancelbots and cancellers such as the
>CancelBunny, the pseudosite cancels, Crusader, etc. We should treat
>HipCrime the same way as we treated these other instances. Tracking down
>and shutting down HipCrime will be just as difficult as tracking down and
>shutting down those instances above. It will require things like
>monitoring the timing and propagation of the cancels from multiple
>locations. It will require the cooperation of many different newsadmins
>and Usenet users. We know HipCrime's ISP, but we don't currently have any
>proof that these supersedes are coming from HipCrime. It will be
>difficult to do this. It will be even more difficult to find HipCrime's
>identity in real life.
>
>The hunt for HipCrime has begun!
Travis, you have found your "One Great True Quest". Go now, find the
"Holy Grail" of the criminal known as "Hipcrime" and bring him to
Usenet Justice. May the Force be with You.
JM Hunter
"We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true."
Computer science sage Robert Wilensky
Actually, I don't think HipCrime counts as the "Holy Grail" in this case.
I'm not sure what the "Holy Grail" was. Was it Crusader, the pseudosite
cancellers, or the CancelBunny? But still, HipCrime is quite a pain in
the ass. He needs to be larted very badly.
--
Travis Bemann
> On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:02:45 -0600, Travis Bemann <bem...@execpc.com>, in
> <3825a14c$0$29...@news.execpc.com> wrote:
>
> + HipCrime has gone too far.
>
> Really?
>
> + He has turned entire newsgroups (such as this one) unusable with his cancels
> + and supersedes.
>
> I hadn't noticed. I think a combination of my killfiles and someone(s)
> cleaning up DipSlime's latest tantrum. Oh, I had to tweak my killfile,
> but that took two minutes...
I can't see the supersedes where I am. However, it is still quite
annoying when nearly all the threads in a newsgroup just disappear (that
is, are superseded), and any new posts which one posts disappear a day or
two after they are posted.
> + The time has come to track down HipCrime, unmask him, and shut
> + him down.
>
> Nah, he isn't worth the time. You're giving him what he wants,
> attention. He enjoys being called the most dangerous 'bot on usenet.
> Please don't feed the DipSlime.
He's not the most dangerous individual on the Usenet - That's Tom Saylor.
The second most dangerous entity on the Usenet is the CancelBunny, because
its purpose and design is for censorship, not indiscriminate cancelling of
everything. However, the CancelBunny has been checked. Its accounts are
killed just as soon as it starts spewing cancels. On the other hand,
HipCrime has been able to cancel with impunity up to now. The time has
come to lart HipCrime in the side of the head with a 2x4.
> + The hunt for HipCrime has begun!
>
> Let us know when you find him. In the mean time, I think I'll make fun
> of DipSlime again...
>
> DipSlime: another annoying pimple on the ass of Usenet.
But then, why should we treat DipSlime any different than we treated the
CancelBunny, Crusader, or the pseudosite cancels?
--
Travis Bemann
+ But then, why should we treat DipSlime any different than we treated
+ the CancelBunny, Crusader, or the pseudosite cancels?
Go for it, then.
>
> Actually, I don't think HipCrime counts as the "Holy Grail" in this case.
> I'm not sure what the "Holy Grail" was. Was it Crusader, the pseudosite
> cancellers, or the CancelBunny? But still, HipCrime is quite a pain in
> the ass. He needs to be larted very badly.
One way to handle him is not read on weekend. By Sunday night,
whatever he did was all cleaned up and the group was okay-fine.
Thanks, Doug.
--
Rebecca Ore
| Main Entry: grail
| Pronunciation: 'grA(&)l
| Function: noun
| Etymology: Middle English graal, from Middle French, bowl, grail,
| from Medieval Latin gradalis
| 1 capitalized : the cup or platter used according to medieval legend
| by Christ at the Last Supper and thereafter the object of knightly
| quests
| 2 : the object of an extended or difficult quest
Travis, you need to read more literature, or at least watch more
movies. Didn't you see "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?"
>HipCrime has gone too far. He has turned entire newsgroups (such as this
>one) unusable with his cancels and supersedes. He has done this with near
>impunity. The time has come to track down HipCrime, unmask him, and shut
>him down. Yes, he may easily switch ISPs, but this will slow him down,
>and it will send a message to him and the rest of the world that his
>behavior will not be tolerated. Also, unmasking him will end the
>protection that his anonymity gives him.
So, like...what are you waiting for, Travis?
--
Aaron M. Henne -mhm 9x2-
"So, despite all the firepower you are still too gutless to
use your real name. That *is* what you're saying, isn't it?"
-Dirk "Too Dumb To Read A .Sig" Bruere
article <3825692A...@kbnet.co.uk>
http://www.flonk.org/mhm9x2
and
http://www.navicom.net/~flaagg
+ In article <3825a14c$0$29...@news.execpc.com>, Travis Bemann
+ <bem...@execpc.com> says...
+ >The time has come to track down HipCrime
+ So, like...what are you waiting for, Travis?
The possee to show up?
>
>Actually, I don't think HipCrime counts as the "Holy Grail" in this case.
>I'm not sure what the "Holy Grail" was. Was it Crusader, the pseudosite
>cancellers, or the CancelBunny? But still, HipCrime is quite a pain in
>the ass. He needs to be larted very badly.
I'm sorry you feel that way, Travis. I was really hoping you and be could be
friends. I'd buy you a beer if you were old enough. Would you settle for an
ice cream cone?
>In article <3826c0b8$0$10...@news.execpc.com>,
>Travis Bemann <bem...@execpc.com> wrote:
>>In article <383766bd...@news.netset.com>, yo mama wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:02:45 -0600,
>>> bem...@execpc.com (Travis Bemann) wrote the following silly shit:
>>> >
>>> >The hunt for HipCrime has begun!
>>>
>>> Travis, you have found your "One Great True Quest". Go now, find the
>>> "Holy Grail" of the criminal known as "Hipcrime" and bring him to
>>> Usenet Justice. May the Force be with You.
>>
>>Actually, I don't think HipCrime counts as the "Holy Grail" in this case.
>>I'm not sure what the "Holy Grail" was. Was it Crusader, the pseudosite
>>cancellers, or the CancelBunny? But still, HipCrime is quite a pain in
>>the ass. He needs to be larted very badly.
>
>| Main Entry: grail
>| Pronunciation: 'grA(&)l
>| Function: noun
>| Etymology: Middle English graal, from Middle French, bowl, grail,
>| from Medieval Latin gradalis
>| 1 capitalized : the cup or platter used according to medieval legend
>| by Christ at the Last Supper and thereafter the object of knightly
>| quests
>| 2 : the object of an extended or difficult quest
>
>Travis, you need to read more literature, or at least watch more
>movies. Didn't you see "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?"
Or the Monty Python flick?
It's personal. Everybody needs their own questing beast. Mine
was Andrew Chandler for a while, but what do you do once you've
slain the beast?
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> In article <3826c0b8$0$10...@news.execpc.com>,
> Travis Bemann <bem...@execpc.com> wrote:
> >In article <383766bd...@news.netset.com>, yo mama wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:02:45 -0600,
> >> bem...@execpc.com (Travis Bemann) wrote the following silly shit:
> >> >
> >> >The hunt for HipCrime has begun!
> >>
> >> Travis, you have found your "One Great True Quest". Go now, find the
> >> "Holy Grail" of the criminal known as "Hipcrime" and bring him to
> >> Usenet Justice. May the Force be with You.
> >
> >Actually, I don't think HipCrime counts as the "Holy Grail" in this case.
> >I'm not sure what the "Holy Grail" was. Was it Crusader, the pseudosite
> >cancellers, or the CancelBunny? But still, HipCrime is quite a pain in
> >the ass. He needs to be larted very badly.
>
> | Main Entry: grail
> | Pronunciation: 'grA(&)l
> | Function: noun
> | Etymology: Middle English graal, from Middle French, bowl, grail,
> | from Medieval Latin gradalis
> | 1 capitalized : the cup or platter used according to medieval legend
> | by Christ at the Last Supper and thereafter the object of knightly
> | quests
> | 2 : the object of an extended or difficult quest
>
> Travis, you need to read more literature, or at least watch more
> movies. Didn't you see "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?"
>
Yes, I know what "Holy Grail" refers to. However, I think of "Monty
Python and the Holy Grail", not "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?" when
I hear the words "Holy Grail".
--
Travis Bemann
> bem...@execpc.com (Travis Bemann) writes:
>
> >
> > Actually, I don't think HipCrime counts as the "Holy Grail" in this case.
> > I'm not sure what the "Holy Grail" was. Was it Crusader, the pseudosite
> > cancellers, or the CancelBunny? But still, HipCrime is quite a pain in
> > the ass. He needs to be larted very badly.
>
> One way to handle him is not read on weekend. By Sunday night,
> whatever he did was all cleaned up and the group was okay-fine.
>
> Thanks, Doug.
Well, considering that he also did a rogue cancelling around Sunday in
NANAU. You can't just ignore or killfile cancels. Well, you can filter
them out or not honor any cancels altogether, but this is only an option
if you are your own newsadmin.
--
Travis Bemann
I don't care for Monty Python, and I doubted that you would have
ever watched "The Silver Chalice" (1954) staring Paul Newman.
You can also choose an ISP or news-service that does the things
you want.
>In article <806sea$7...@news-central.tiac.net>, de...@sunspot.tiac.net
>(Charles Demas) wrote:
>
>> In article <3826c0b8$0$10...@news.execpc.com>,
>> Travis Bemann <bem...@execpc.com> wrote:
>> >In article <383766bd...@news.netset.com>, yo mama wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 10:02:45 -0600,
>> >> bem...@execpc.com (Travis Bemann) wrote the following silly shit:
>> >> >
>> >> >The hunt for HipCrime has begun!
>> >>
>> >> Travis, you have found your "One Great True Quest". Go now, find the
>> >> "Holy Grail" of the criminal known as "Hipcrime" and bring him to
>> >> Usenet Justice. May the Force be with You.
>> >
>> >Actually, I don't think HipCrime counts as the "Holy Grail" in this case.
>> >I'm not sure what the "Holy Grail" was. Was it Crusader, the pseudosite
>> >cancellers, or the CancelBunny? But still, HipCrime is quite a pain in
>> >the ass. He needs to be larted very badly.
>>
>> | Main Entry: grail
>> | Pronunciation: 'grA(&)l
>> | Function: noun
>> | Etymology: Middle English graal, from Middle French, bowl, grail,
>> | from Medieval Latin gradalis
>> | 1 capitalized : the cup or platter used according to medieval legend
>> | by Christ at the Last Supper and thereafter the object of knightly
>> | quests
>> | 2 : the object of an extended or difficult quest
>>
>> Travis, you need to read more literature, or at least watch more
>> movies. Didn't you see "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?"
>>
>
>Yes, I know what "Holy Grail" refers to. However, I think of "Monty
>Python and the Holy Grail", not "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade?" when
>I hear the words "Holy Grail".
If you had read about King Arthur's legend, then you would've grokked
what I was insinuating. As it is, you seem more like a "Bored of the
Rings" kind of fellow.
Now say hello to my killfile for two weeks, *plonk*
Travis, take the man up on it.
For some reasons, the server I read from didn't show a trace of the
stuff you're talking about.
Why don't you email HipCrime and try to feed him your version of
reality? It's a fun parlor game played by many people.
> In article <38276139$0$58...@news.execpc.com>,
> Travis Bemann <bem...@execpc.com> wrote:
> >In article <m3so2ht...@ogoense.net>, Rebecca Ore
<rebec...@op.net> wrote:
> >
> >> bem...@execpc.com (Travis Bemann) writes:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Actually, I don't think HipCrime counts as the "Holy Grail" in this
case.
> >> > I'm not sure what the "Holy Grail" was. Was it Crusader, the pseudosite
> >> > cancellers, or the CancelBunny? But still, HipCrime is quite a pain in
> >> > the ass. He needs to be larted very badly.
> >>
> >> One way to handle him is not read on weekend. By Sunday night,
> >> whatever he did was all cleaned up and the group was okay-fine.
> >>
> >> Thanks, Doug.
> >
> >Well, considering that he also did a rogue cancelling around Sunday in
> >NANAU. You can't just ignore or killfile cancels. Well, you can filter
> >them out or not honor any cancels altogether, but this is only an option
> >if you are your own newsadmin.
>
> You can also choose an ISP or news-service that does the things
> you want.
Yeah, but I can't because the ISP I used isn't my choice. I wasn't the
person who called up the ISP for an Internet connection in the first
place.
--
Travis Bemann
#In article <80812c$e...@news-central.tiac.net>, de...@sunspot.tiac.net
#(Charles Demas) wrote:
#
#> In article <38276139$0$58...@news.execpc.com>,
#> Travis Bemann <bem...@execpc.com> wrote:
#> >In article <m3so2ht...@ogoense.net>, Rebecca Ore
#<rebec...@op.net> wrote:
#> >
#> >> bem...@execpc.com (Travis Bemann) writes:
#> >>
#> >> >
#> >> > Actually, I don't think HipCrime counts as the "Holy Grail" in this
#case.
#> >> > I'm not sure what the "Holy Grail" was. Was it Crusader, the pseudosite
#> >> > cancellers, or the CancelBunny? But still, HipCrime is quite a pain in
#> >> > the ass. He needs to be larted very badly.
#> >>
#> >> One way to handle him is not read on weekend. By Sunday night,
#> >> whatever he did was all cleaned up and the group was okay-fine.
#> >>
#> >> Thanks, Doug.
#> >
#> >Well, considering that he also did a rogue cancelling around Sunday in
#> >NANAU. You can't just ignore or killfile cancels. Well, you can filter
#> >them out or not honor any cancels altogether, but this is only an option
#> >if you are your own newsadmin.
#>
#> You can also choose an ISP or news-service that does the things
#> you want.
#
#Yeah, but I can't because the ISP I used isn't my choice. I wasn't the
#person who called up the ISP for an Internet connection in the first
#place.
Perhaps Mommy could make another call.