"Far Speaker" <tow...@mtn.com> wrote in message
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I see that you have chosen not to take my advice and have decided
to play for comps. While this decision will likely have unfortunate
consequences in the long run, in the short run (say any single session,
or any single trip, or even any single year) it could pay off. It
might even pay off big time. I would gladly tell you the comp policy
for Binions if I knew it, but I don't. From reading this group I do
know that it is harder to get comps there than it used to be.
I hope you get your comped meal, in fact I think it would be great
if you also won lot of money in the process.
Mike
NOTE: Remove "Nospamd" to reply to me.
Mike, would it have been acceptable to you if he/she would have said that
he/she intended to play at Binion's at X level for X amount of time, as long as
things were going well. And at the end of a session would it be out of line to
ask for a Steakhouse comp for that level of play.
mikeNosp...@cox.net (M?hael D. Brown) wrote in message news:<263134FC5AF5DFE5.981F20C3...@lp.airnews.net>...
Depends on who's working the floor at the time. I've has sessions where
I got a steakhouse comp for quarter action for less than 2 hours of
play. Other sessions where $50-75 average "didn't quite qualify".
BUT, generally speaking, black play will always get you in, and lessor
amounts will be up to whoever is working the floor at the time.
Chuck
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Whoa, what did I say that implied anything about the "acceptability" of
anyones bj play decisions? I find it "acceptable" for anyone to play for
comps. In fact I find it "acceptable" for anyone to split 10s, stand on
9, or hit 16 against a 10 EVEN if I am playing at their table when they
do it. It is their money, their time, and their decision. If asked I
might advise different actions but at no time and in no manner would I
judge them to not be "acceptable". Actions I find "unacceptable" are
things like rude language (towards the dealer of other playsers) and
thowing cards.
This won't be much help, but I was told by a pit critter that if you have to
ask, you can't afford it. This was years ago when it was actually easier to
get comped.
Best of luck,
-Burt
"Měchael D. Brown" wrote:
In all actuality, you have no choice but to "accept" all those actions and more unless the
employees find the person disruptive. Short of throwing cards and berating dealers, people can
pretty much do whatever they want at the table as far as play choices. The only thing you have
control over is whether or not you stay at that table. Other people's poor playing decisions won't
affect you in the long run, it will only affect that particular hand and more importantly, your
stress level.
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>
> > Whoa, what did I say that implied anything about the "acceptability" of
> > anyones bj play decisions? I find it "acceptable" for anyone to play for
> > comps. In fact I find it "acceptable" for anyone to split 10s, stand on
> > 9, or hit 16 against a 10 EVEN if I am playing at their table when they
> > do it. It is their money, their time, and their decision. If asked I
> > might advise different actions but at no time and in no manner would I
> > judge them to not be "acceptable". Actions I find "unacceptable" are
> > things like rude language (towards the dealer of other playsers) and
> > thowing cards.
>
> In all actuality, you have no choice but to "accept" all those actions and more unless the
> employees find the person disruptive. Short of throwing cards and berating dealers, people can
> pretty much do whatever they want at the table as far as play choices. The only thing you have
> control over is whether or not you stay at that table. Other people's poor playing decisions won't
> affect you in the long run, it will only affect that particular hand and more importantly, your
> stress level.
You are exactly right. I was giving examples of what "I" presonally found
unacceptable. I've played at tables where the casino threw people out who
were rude to players, and/or rude to dealers, and/or threw cards. Even then
they were given a warning or two. If they hadn't been thrown out I would
not have complained, I would have have moved to another table (or casino).
I also understand that bad playing decisions don't affect my expected
win/loss percentage and I am comfortable playing with such people because
I know that their "unusual" choices will help me as often as hurt me.
What amazes me is the number of people who have this same knowledge and
still get upset.
BTW, if you are playing with a jerk one thing you can do get them to
leave is start splitting 10s. I saw it done once.
I'm starting to wonder if I'm writing in some kind of foreign language.
I try not to throw my 2 cents in just for the sake of hearing myself "talk",
yet alot of what I post doesn't even get acknowledged (sob, sob), and sometimes
times when there is a reply it doesn't seem that the respondant even understood
what I wrote. It's like they've got an itchy trigger finger.
In this case I didn't once refer to playing decisions in bj, yet it appears
that is what I was thought to have said.
"Měchael D. Brown" wrote:
> BTW, if you are playing with a jerk one thing you can do get them to
> leave is start splitting 10s. I saw it done once.
Evil and effective.
>Anyone have any experience in the level of play required at Binions
>for a meal in their steakhouse?
Not quite what you asked, but I played 6.5 hours of 4/8 Hold'em a
couple years ago and got comped to the coffee shop. I had the prime
rib. It was my first comp (my first trip to LV, my first pilgrimage
to poker Mecca, etc) and I was pretty excited at the time.
JSB
> I see that you have chosen not to take my advice and have decided
> to play for comps. While this decision will likely have unfortunate
> consequences in the long run, in the short run (say any single session,
> or any single trip, or even any single year) it could pay off. It
> might even pay off big time. I would gladly tell you the comp policy
> for Binions if I knew it, but I don't. From reading this group I do
> know that it is harder to get comps there than it used to be.
>
> I hope you get your comped meal, in fact I think it would be great
> if you also won lot of money in the process.
>
> Mike
Mike,
I think it's safe to say that 98% of the people in this newsgroup have
"chosen to not take your advice and have decided to play for comps", or
at least, ASK for comps before or after playing as they NORMALLY would.
You know in casinos outside of Vegas (and smaller places in Vegas) I have had
tremendous luck just playing my normal patterns ($5-$10) just asking for a
free meal. 9 times out of 10 they say yes. Often I ask for a coffee shop
meal and they offer a buffet instead, but I am okay with that. Now my
favorite still was at Casino Royale, when my wife and I told the floor man
that we were going to eat (expecting nothin) and he comped us to the Subway.
We took it but it still makes me laugh to think about it.
Ray Ingram wrote:
> Now my favorite still was at Casino Royale, when my wife and I told the floor man
> that we were going to eat (expecting nothin) and he comped us to the Subway.
> We took it but it still makes me laugh to think about it.
2 years ago, we played at O'Sheas (O'Shady's as we call it) just to say we got comped at Burger King. I tell
that story all the time.
>In article <3c898516...@news.helicon.net>, Far Speaker (tow...@mtn.com) says...
>>
>> Anyone have any experience in the level of play required at Binions
>> for a meal in their steakhouse?
>
>I see that you have chosen not to take my advice and have decided
>to play for comps.
I agree with you that playing for comps is a losing proposition. I do
not "play for comps". I was just curious, that since I plan to play
several hours at Binion's, and since I have heard nothing but raves
for their steakhouse, I thought I would ask the question.
BTW, I read your report on your Aladdin trip...funny as hell.
Thanks,
FarSpeaker
Because half of the so-called experts sitting at the table are
clueless and really think they are right. This is why I don't play 3rd
base anymore. I got tired of listening to all the crap from people who
dont know what they are talking about. Now I just quietly sit at 1st
base and let the cards fall as they may. Good luck.
Steve Peters
Univ of Cinti
steve peters wrote:
I agree, I gave up 3rd base because:
a) it's where most counters sit
b) people who don't understand pos/neg counts would get angry at me for
correct play.
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding on my part and I hope you win in
Binions. I have also heard that their steakhouse is really good but
I've never eaten there myself. I've played there a little bit over
the years but I've never really liked the place, even with their
excellent rules. For some reason I always liked the Mint better.
When Binions took over the Mint, I pretty much stopped playing
downtown.
> BTW, I read your report on your Aladdin trip...funny as hell.
Thanks, it was my best trip ever. If more of my trips were even half
as good I would write more trip reports.
> Thanks,
Thank you and good luck!
> FarSpeaker