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Botanicus

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Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
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is it just me or does it seem like everything on this ng is sex oriented? I
know all that 'sexual tension' crap, and the 'finding yourself' speel. and I
also know that it isn't true.
humans have lived on this planet, as has everything else for close to 10,000
years. in that time some have been able to control their lusts, and others
haven't. obviously some of you guys haven't. we teens talk about sex because
it is an adult activity (or was) and it makes some people horny. from my
point of view, along with many others, talking about sex is one of the
lowest forms of conversation that exists.
am I right to assume that you also swear? you probably do, although I would
assume that there are people on the group who don't... Just a little insight
into swearing... it is what people do when they can't think of something
intelligent to say, akin to 'like... um... you know" how many times have you
heard or said 'I was like, going to *insert place* when ...um... you know...
the thing... *insert action*.. ya know?'
the majority of our profanity HAS actual definitions, such as Donkey,
illegitamite chil, female dog or fox, and Fornication (or formicator) Under
Cardinal Knowledge.
I guess my base question is, how many regulars ore on this list, and of them
how many are NOT perverts with an IQ in double digits.

Botanicus

jan

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Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
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is a two-digit iq all that is required?


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Botanicus

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Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
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actually that was a quick jab at pervs, inplying that only stupid people
can't control themselves...
I would reply to any intelligent post, just preferably something not about
sex

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Jody

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Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
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There are some people that are not into sex 24/7 but if you say anything
about the people who post thoes messages about sex than they will freak
out and dislike you.

Jody

PS I like discussions better than stupid posts about sex

Botanicus

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Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
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i'm am so afraid of them Jody, but at least I get the impression you are
civilized. and for ANYONE reading this, it is a proven fact that people who
talk about sex most, have the least knowledge/experiance or it and enjoy it
the least.

~Botanicus- the voice of reason it seems


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Jody

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Dec 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/16/99
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I agree if you have to go on the internet to post some message of
wanting to have sex with some girl than oviously your not getting any.
And also look at Lloyd we all know he doesnt get any but he always talks
about it.

Jody

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lol . i know exactly what you mean. i hate people like that, they only post
on the net like that because they are desperate lamers that can't have a
converstation
with a girl that doesnt involve sex.

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Botanicus

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Dec 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/16/99
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it's depressing actually. here we are, on the virge of the prime of our life
(known as the 20's) and all some people talk about is something that they
shouldn't be experiancing any way. Sex is for marraige, marraige is for
Life. when you have sex before marriage, you cheapen your self, and when you
marry without meaning it for life (instead it is out of Lust) you hurt
yourself, your spouce, and any offspring.

jsut a short rant from a guy who's tired of sex-talk

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*TeRRy*

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In article <38594cd1$0$84...@news.voyager.net>, "Botanicus"
<m...@hillsideyouth.freeNOSPAMservers.com> wrote:

>it's depressing actually. here we are, on the virge of the prime of our
>life
>(known as the 20's) and all some people talk about is something that they
>shouldn't be experiancing any way. Sex is for marraige, marraige is for
>Life. when you have sex before marriage, you cheapen your self, and when
>you
>marry without meaning it for life (instead it is out of Lust) you hurt
>yourself, your spouce, and any offspring.
>
>jsut a short rant from a guy who's tired of sex-talk
>
>--


And of course you have NEVER Masturbated either.
MayB it is Time that U try to actually enjoy what Life has to offer.
And...for GoDąs Sake....get a FUCKING Spell Checker ;-)
After 7 wrong words, I quit counting.
MayB you need to stay awake in class???
TeRRy
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Botanicus

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Dec 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/17/99
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Assuming by Fornicating Under Cardinal Knowledge Spell checker, you mean
that I should use the spell checker on my computer (strange way to say it in
my opinion) I agree that my spelling is not as it should be, and that a
spell checker would be helpful, but hey, that is too easy. please leave God
out of it, as I can assure you that He does not approve of what is happening
on this NG. and I will enjoy what Life has to offer, but bit what Hell does.
Sex outside of marriage, in any form, leads to Hell. if you deny that, then
Satan has nearly won the battle for your Soul, and for that I am deeply
sorry

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*TeRRy*

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In article <385ab3df$0$22...@news.voyager.net>, "Botanicus"
<m...@hillsideyouth.freeNOSPAMservers.com> wrote:

>Assuming by Fornicating Under Cardinal Knowledge Spell checker, you mean
>that I should use the spell checker on my computer (strange way to say it
>in
>my opinion) I agree that my spelling is not as it should be, and that a
>spell checker would be helpful, but hey, that is too easy. please leave
>God
>out of it, as I can assure you that He does not approve of what is
>happening
>on this NG. and I will enjoy what Life has to offer, but bit what Hell
>does.
>Sex outside of marriage, in any form, leads to Hell. if you deny that,
>then

>Satan has nearly won the battle for your soul, and for that I am deeply
>sorry
>
>--


If you say that you enjoy what life has to offer, then you are deluding
your self, if you do NOT explore LIFE to the FULLEST.
DRUGs are kinna Fun 2 ;-)
The reason that I asked you to use a checker, is that it makes it SOooo
much easier to listen to your bullshit, if we do not think that you are
a Fucking DUMB-ASS!!!
BTW - Do U have PERSONAL correspondence with GOD, and has HE told u
PERSONALLY....that HE does NOT approve of THIS group???
I wood <snicker> HOPE that HE has BeTTer things to do....like run the
FUCKING Universe, than to read this crap!!! (Like u)
So now u R saying that:


>Sex outside of marriage, in any form, leads to Hell.

DuH!!!
So I suppose that all the people that have NO USE for marriage are
DAMNED!!! <Excuse me for using a BAD Word>
I am astounded that ALL these people will NOT be Saved!!!
Perhaps u need to become a missionary???
It is just 2 fucking BAD that all the people in China (& Other Places)
that have NO IDEA of your proclamation, will meat <snicker> us all in
HELL.
I am NOW feeling SAD for all the teens that FUCK in the back seat of
Daddyąs car....and the poor gay people that are NOT even allowed to be
łmarried˛....even if they wanted to be.
And shanąt I 4get The Animals THAT know NO BeTTer and NONE Never get
married. SHIT!!! I was wantiną to meet my dog in Heaven :(
Next we cum to Satan.....
Does He/She/IT talk to u too???
Sounds like u have been convinced that the thing with horns is just
waiting for us ALL???....ąCept u...and your cult.
MayB u can sit at The Right of HIM???
I will put in a good word 4 u......I am The LEFT Side ;-)
....yea....I Jacked Off....ONCE!!! And ONLY ONCE - DAMNIT!!!
I remember reading that GOD is a nice guy...& HE Told me SO!!!
Does THIS mean that because we <NOT u> have sex (YuM) that WE <NOT u>
will NEVER be admitted to The KINGDOM???....Of WhatEver....
SHIT!!!
THAT PISSES ME OFF!!!
IF Iąd have Knowąd THIS B4, I would have done a Hole lot more, than I
have done.
I bet ole Lloyd is HaPPy that he is gettiną the FULL benefit of THINGS.
Well....at LEAST u R SoRRy for US SiNNerS.
Wood ya mind cumming to C me and Teach me The WAY & The TRUTH & The
LIGHT???
PLEASE Bring your own 100 watt bulb...and a credit card to pay my
electric bill.......THANX IN ADVANCE!!!
Hummmm.....How łDEEPLY˛ SoRRy R u???...In inches please!!!
Wood ya consider hooking up with Lloyd and getting a temporary
łmarriage˛ and let me watch???
AND...PLEASE - Will ya tell me WHO the fuck is winniną THAT BaTTle for
My SOUL!!!???
I wanna congratulate The WiNNer!!!
My BuD GoD, ALREADY NOąs!!!
HE tells me that WE R BUDs FOREVER!!! <STILL on The FUCKING LEFT!!!>
I should NOTa tell ya THIS....BUTT....HE told me that u might get up
THERE, BUTT u will be stuck away in a (really tinny) CLOSET.
FUCK...
>>for that I am deeply sorry....NOT!!!

TeRRy

BTW (again)....BleSS u BITCH

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Botanicus

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Dec 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/18/99
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you are such an artivulate fellow, apparently screaming at me (that or your
caps lock is broken)
now shall we look at what you said?

>If you say that you enjoy what life has to offer, then you are deluding
>your self, if you do NOT explore LIFE to the FULLEST.

One does no need to 'explore life' to understand the concequences. I know
that if Iput a gun ti my head, or yours for the matter, and pull the
trigger, I, or you, die. I need not experiance it for my self to know that.

>DRUGs are kinna Fun 2 ;-)

I assume that depriving you brain of oxygen would be entertaining... well as
entertaining as asphyxiation can be anyway

>The reason that I asked you to use a checker, is that it makes it SOooo
>much easier to listen to your bullshit, if we do not think that you are
>a Fucking DUMB-ASS!!!

any you who spell so poorly, and use such childish arguemtns tell me I am a
'[Fornicating Under Cardinal Knowledge] DUMB-[Donkey]'? I am impressed with
your hypocracy sir

>BTW - Do U have PERSONAL correspondence with GOD, and has HE told u
>PERSONALLY....that HE does NOT approve of THIS group???
>I wood <snicker> HOPE that HE has BeTTer things to do....like run the
>FUCKING Universe, than to read this crap!!! (Like u)

GOD does not need to say that he dissapproves of thi sparticular newsgroup
when He has already stated his distaste for the actions you participate in.
I wonder how an Universe can fornicate anyway...

>So now u R saying that:
>>Sex outside of marriage, in any form, leads to Hell.
>DuH!!!
>So I suppose that all the people that have NO USE for marriage are
>DAMNED!!! <Excuse me for using a BAD Word>

I assume by 'NO USE for marriage' you mean do not get married. notice Jesus
was not married when he was crucified, nor had he had sex.
if a person has sex out side of marraige it does condem them to eternal
damnation, along with any other sin

>I am astounded that ALL these people will NOT be Saved!!!
>Perhaps u need to become a missionary???
>It is just 2 fucking BAD that all the people in China (& Other Places)
>that have NO IDEA of your proclamation, will meat <snicker> us all in
>HELL.

I did not say they would not be saved. I said they would be condemed. if
they do not accept the Turth, they go to Hell. as do you. and the China and
otherplaces bit, doesn't jive well, all major nations know about God/Jesus
and the truth. the minor ones are in the process. for those who are not told
by current Christians, are told by GOd himself. there are many reports of
misionaries going to tribes where they thought the Gospel had not been
preached and finding

>I am NOW feeling SAD for all the teens that FUCK in the back seat of
>Daddyąs car....and the poor gay people that are NOT even allowed to be
>łmarried˛....even if they wanted to be.
>And shanąt I 4get The Animals THAT know NO BeTTer and NONE Never get
>married. SHIT!!! I was wantiną to meet my dog in Heaven :(

It is not of my concern if some teenager gives in to temptaion. although I
would prefer it not hapen, God's will shall be donenotmatter what we do. as
for the 'poor gay people that are NOT even alloweved to be married' let me
ask you this, why would God allow such a disgusting practice to enter into
the Holy courtship of marriage? god made Adam and Eve, not dam and Joe, or
Eve and Lilith, if God had intended humans to be homosexual, he would not
have made two genders, both of which are necessary for the continuation of
our race.
God never promised Animals Heaven, God never made and animal in His
likeness. Jesus did not die for the animals. Animals shall not enter Heaven.
And why would you have the animals get marriad any more than they would have
a social security number, or be a member of a church, NRA, or any other
'organization'

Next we cum to Satan.....
Does He/She/IT talk to u too???
Sounds like u have been convinced that the thing with horns is just
waiting for us ALL???....ąCept u...and your cult.

Satan... he is the enemy of God. while God is omniscient, omnipotent, and
omni pressent, Satan is bound by God (read Job) and cannot out do Him. I do
not converse with th Devil, and he does not have horns. I would not lace
myself, aor anyone I care about in such peril. as for the accusation of
being a cult, that is extreme. a cult is a religiously fanatical group that
does not preach forgiveness and scorns outsiders. Christianity preaches that
anyone can be forgiven, and that we should live in peace, allowing only God
to judge the sinners.

>MayB u can sit at The Right of HIM???
>I will put in a good word 4 u......I am The LEFT Side ;-)
>....yea....I Jacked Off....ONCE!!! And ONLY ONCE - DAMNIT!!!
>I remember reading that GOD is a nice guy...& HE Told me SO!!!
>Does THIS mean that because we <NOT u> have sex (YuM) that WE <NOT u>
>will NEVER be admitted to The KINGDOM???....Of WhatEver....
>SHIT!!!
>THAT PISSES ME OFF!!!
>IF Iąd have Knowąd THIS B4, I would have done a Hole lot more, than I
>have done.

I shall not go near lucifer unless it is the will of God, and I care not
about your disgusting practices. your sins do not effect me, other than to
repulse me and burden my heart with a sorrow no non-christian can match
you know my anwers to your statments, so I shall nto waste your time
repeating them

>I bet ole Lloyd is HaPPy that he is gettiną the FULL benefit of THINGS.
>Well....at LEAST u R SoRRy for US SiNNerS.
>Wood ya mind cumming to C me and Teach me The WAY & The TRUTH & The
>LIGHT???
>PLEASE Bring your own 100 watt bulb...and a credit card to pay my
>electric bill.......THANX IN ADVANCE!!!

You already know the Way Truth and Life. If you did not, you areguemtns
would be more intelectual than primal

>Hummmm.....How łDEEPLY˛ SoRRy R u???...In inches please!!!

an eternal sorrow cannot be measured

>Wood ya consider hooking up with Lloyd and getting a temporary
>łmarriage˛ and let me watch???

I will not get married for anyone, other than God

AND...PLEASE - Will ya tell me WHO the fuck is winniną THAT BaTTle for
My SOUL!!!???

Satan is winning the battle for your soul, there is no other excuse for the
corruption and idocricy that you display

>I wanna congratulate The WiNNer!!!
>My BuD GoD, ALREADY NOąs!!!
>HE tells me that WE R BUDs FOREVER!!! <STILL on The FUCKING LEFT!!!>
>I should NOTa tell ya THIS....BUTT....HE told me that u might get up
>THERE, BUTT u will be stuck away in a (really tinny) CLOSET.

God loves us all, sinner and Saint. I have acknoledged him, and decided..
heyt it might be a good thing to do what the most powerfull being in the
universe wants me to. as for you, I would get ready to wipe the spit of
God's face, because everytime you dissobey his will, he weeps for you, and
you spit in his face.
In my fathers house, there are many rooms. no closets

I am sorry for you prevailing stupidity, if I could force you to see ythe
truth, rest assured I would

--

Botanicus

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>Was going to stay a silent watcher, but I cant let this go.

I appreciate any intelligent conversation

>1. You have no right to say who is going where as regards the afterlife.

God has made it the right and business of all Chrsitians to inform the world
of the truth ("Go into the world and preach the Gospel [also called good
news] what os the good news with out the bad? self deception)

>2No-one knows or will ever know what will happen then.

Unless I mis read your post, you are catholic, in which case you should
agree that an undying faith is required for salvation. Doubt is how Satan
caused Eve to sin ('Did God REALLY say that')

>3. If through sin we are damned, as you so eloquently put it, then no-one
>apart from Mary, will actually get into heaven.

Mary was not Sinless. she was human. Jesus alone was/is pure. every other
human being on the planert since Adam has sinned. even Mary

>4. Even if sins do occur it is generally accepted that people can receive
>salvation through acceptance of God and reconciliation

I believe I did mention that several times. Accept Jesus as your prersonal
Lord and Saviour, and all is fogiven. no strings attached. His sacrifice is
all that is necesary, no goats, pigs, or other retribution
('I am the Way truth and the Life ...')

>5. I take it you are a fire and brimstone type preacher. I also assume you
>base your opinions on the Old Testament. You say you;'re a Christian, so
you
>might want to take a look at the book that actually deals with Jesus - the
>New Testament.

I am mearly a teen and not a theologin. I am not a preacher in the refined
sense. although I believe the Old Testement provides a more dynamic picture
of God, the New Testement (from Matthew all the way to Revelation) is a more
personal look at Jesus and how to live a Christian Life. The 'Fire and
Brimstone' comments I have made are a result of my guessing that would be
the best way to reachsome people on this NG

>6. I admit my shortcomings and know that I am far from perfect. You assume
>you are worthy of a place in heaven, and you assume that anyone who gives
>into temptation is not. How do you know? Please if you have an opinion
which
>is filled with contradictions, and hypocrisy, keep it to yourself.
>Hypocritical preaching does nothing for anybody.

No one is Worthy of Heaven. I believe I mentioned that. I have given my
imperfections over to Jesus, and he has 'washed them white as snow' if you
will. I am not worthy, and neither was Mary. Not Mother Teresa, not MArylin
Manson, not Bill Clinton, Not the president of the Red Cross. None of Us. If
you can find a 'loop hole' or hypocricy in my posts, let me know.
Christianity is not a conflicting faith as so many other are

>7 How do you know who is winning the battle for anyones soul, based on what
>they say. Do you understand the system of salvation. Do you also know that
>the church which you base your beliefs on has a likelihood of being
corrupt.
>It is run by humans, and as you know, humans give into temptation.

I may make an educated guess at the winner of the battle of Souls because
the Bible (New Testement) says

Matt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good
works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

James 2:17-18 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say, You have Faith, and I have works: show me your faith
without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.


1Peter 2:12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that,
whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by [your] good works,
which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation

Our works reflect our Soul, our eyes are a window into our soul, and our
Tongue, the hardest of all to tame, expresses our desires well
The Christian Church is not Corrupt, I could go off on a bashing rant about
the spin offs of it an what not, but when God is the Head of a church, and
when you seek him for all desicions, he will perfect all plans. After every
sermon, I look at the Bible to see if what they said was true or mearly a
twisting of words. I pray about it, and seek God in it at all times.


>8 By the way in my church(Catholic) 2000 is what is known as a jubilee
year.
>People can reconcile their differences with God, through sacrifices over
the
>year. I wonder will we make it then. We might even get on the guest list
>next to your name.

Why must there be Sacrifices? Ephesians 2:8-10 says:
"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from
yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast.
For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works,
which God prepared in advance for us to do."

I urge you to look at the context, to see that I am not making this up, or
twisting words, or mistyping them, ora manipulating them. no sacrifices must
be made, only that we confess our sins to JESUS, not a priest.

>I only wrote this because I felt you were self righteous, self
>opiniated,condesending based on religion and above all hypocritical. Please
>excuse any offence

I am not offended, I look at is as the verse says, 'As I ron sharpens Iron,
so one man sharpens another'
I pray that we will be able to put the differences behind us and do
marvelous things for God on this NG. I still ask that you show mt any
hypocritical message I have posted.
I thnak you for the confrontation, and the intelligent post.

In His arms

~Botanicus

Cian Cunningham

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Botanicus wrote in message <385bd164$0$22...@news.voyager.net>...

Was going to stay a silent watcher, but I cant let this go.


1. You have no right to say who is going where as regards the afterlife.

2No-one knows or will ever know what will happen then.

3. If through sin we are damned, as you so eloquently put it, then no-one
apart from Mary, will actually get into heaven.

4. Even if sins do occur it is generally accepted that people can receive
salvation through acceptance of God and reconciliation

5. I take it you are a fire and brimstone type preacher. I also assume you
base your opinions on the Old Testament. You say you;'re a Christian, so you
might want to take a look at the book that actually deals with Jesus - the
New Testament.

6. I admit my shortcomings and know that I am far from perfect. You assume
you are worthy of a place in heaven, and you assume that anyone who gives
into temptation is not. How do you know? Please if you have an opinion which
is filled with contradictions, and hypocrisy, keep it to yourself.
Hypocritical preaching does nothing for anybody.

7 How do you know who is winning the battle for anyones soul, based on what
they say. Do you understand the system of salvation. Do you also know that
the church which you base your beliefs on has a likelihood of being corrupt.
It is run by humans, and as you know, humans give into temptation.

8 By the way in my church(Catholic) 2000 is what is known as a jubilee year.
People can reconcile their differences with God, through sacrifices over the
year. I wonder will we make it then. We might even get on the guest list
next to your name.

I only wrote this because I felt you were self righteous, self

Dl Insanitee

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YO Bub if Sex outside of marriage leads to "hell" no matter what than you can
take your heaven 'cause its gonna be so fucking lonely up there it wont even be
funny.
Check it out, maybe 1 in every 10, 000 ppl dont have sex outside of marriage
and really what is marriage, you get a few words said and a paper signed,
SOMEHOW this keeps you from "eternal suffering"
You say the ceremony is what does it the words said?
Hardly I doubt "Adam and Eve" were ever married with a priest and everything.
And even if they were the first 2 (not very likely considering the first humans
couldnt pronounce Adam and Eve(English based names in a time when english didnt
exist) and they were an exception what happens to their children and their
childrens children?
Does this mean That all of our first ancestors all went to hell because of
something they didnt even know about yet?? (I dont think so) think about it for
a second and get yourself a religion that makes sense personally Science is mine
because it gives reasons

-The true definition of insanity is doing something over and over again but
expecting different results.

-Albert Einstein

Botanicus wrote:

> Assuming by Fornicating Under Cardinal Knowledge Spell checker, you mean
> that I should use the spell checker on my computer (strange way to say it in
> my opinion) I agree that my spelling is not as it should be, and that a
> spell checker would be helpful, but hey, that is too easy. please leave God
> out of it, as I can assure you that He does not approve of what is happening
> on this NG. and I will enjoy what Life has to offer, but bit what Hell does.
> Sex outside of marriage, in any form, leads to Hell. if you deny that, then

> Satan has nearly won the battle for your Soul, and for that I am deeply
> sorry
>
> --


> Trusting man takes courage, trusting God takes Faith
>
> http://hillsideyouth.freeservers.com
>
> http://members.xoom.com/botanicus/
>

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> >In article <38594cd1$0$84...@news.voyager.net>, "Botanicus"
> ><m...@hillsideyouth.freeNOSPAMservers.com> wrote:
> >
> >>it's depressing actually. here we are, on the virge of the prime of our
> >>life
> >>(known as the 20's) and all some people talk about is something that they
> >>shouldn't be experiancing any way. Sex is for marraige, marraige is for
> >>Life. when you have sex before marriage, you cheapen your self, and when
> >>you
> >>marry without meaning it for life (instead it is out of Lust) you hurt
> >>yourself, your spouce, and any offspring.
> >>
> >>jsut a short rant from a guy who's tired of sex-talk
> >>
> >>--
> >
> >
> >And of course you have NEVER Masturbated either.
> >MayB it is Time that U try to actually enjoy what Life has to offer.

> >And...for GoD¹s Sake....get a FUCKING Spell Checker ;-)

Botanicus

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if I may...

>YO Bub if Sex outside of marriage leads to "hell" no matter what than you
can
>take your heaven 'cause its gonna be so fucking lonely up there it wont
even be
>funny.

I'll take eternal peace and happiness (guarantied) over the 'burning sulfur
and gnashing of teeth' you know, that whole Pit of Fire and brimstone
(Revelations)

>Check it out, maybe 1 in every 10, 000 ppl dont have sex outside of
marriage

considering the billions of people alive now, and all those before, Heaven
would/will have a lower population.. but what do you want Quality or
quantity. personally I don't care how many computers you give me, I would
like 1 or 2 that WORK.. and work WELL

>and really what is marriage, you get a few words said and a paper signed,

ahh the secular view of a divine establishment. the 'few word said' bind the
two people to watch other, in the sight of God. Making them One, as the
Bible puts it. the paper is just for governmental reasons, and taxes

>SOMEHOW this keeps you from "eternal suffering"
>You say the ceremony is what does it the words said?

no ceremony or words can fix anything, not marriage, not your soul. the
attitude of it, the willingness of two people to live together, in a
righteous (God defined/perfect), life.

>Hardly I doubt "Adam and Eve" were ever married with a priest and
everything.

Adam and Eve were the first two, God himself could have married them. after
all he did walk through the Garden of Eden (Genesis)

>And even if they were the first 2 (not very likely considering the first
humans
>couldnt pronounce Adam and Eve(English based names in a time when english
didnt
>exist) and they were an exception what happens to their children and their
>childrens children?

the word Adam is a translation, from the Hebrew word for Man, and Eve from
'Mother of All' loose translation, sorry. but you know the phrase. A rose
by any other name smells just as sweet. it doesn't matter what tags we put
on something, it doesn't change it. If you want to know what happened to
their offspring, read a Christian Bible. Genesis through Leviticus will let
you know


>Does this mean That all of our first ancestors all went to hell because of
>something they didnt even know about yet??

the Expose-Facto laws.. (After the Fact) God is omniscient.. (knows all) he
has decided when Marriage would take place, along with all other 'moral
laws' and inalienable rights'

>(I dont think so) think about it for a second and get yourself a religion
that makes sense personally Science is mine because it gives reasons

Science does not explain the unexplained, only the observations of it. it
will not tell you WHY man was made, only that we came form apes.. or fish or
something.. you want proof? look at the mathematical odds of 1 cell
appearing out of nothing (evolution) I'll give you hint right now, science
deems impossibility to occur at 10 to the 27th power....

ask and I'll give you the odds, or any other evolutionary/creationary info
you might want. or any religious info about Christianity.


>-The true definition of insanity is doing something over and over again but
>expecting different results.
>
>-Albert Einstein

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Dani

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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:49:02 -0500, "Botanicus"
<m...@hillsideyouth.freeservers.com> wrote:


>I guess my base question is, how many regulars ore on this list, and of them
>how many are NOT perverts with an IQ in double digits.

I'm not a pervert and my IQ has more than two digits!
Tee hee! I'm an aeroplane! Beep bleeb

Dani

"Well these are strange days we're living in today. Am I straight or gay?
I hope I'm old before I die. I hope I live to see the day the pope gets high!"
- Robbie Williams
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Steve

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Dani wrote:
>
> On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 14:49:02 -0500, "Botanicus"
> <m...@hillsideyouth.freeservers.com> wrote:
>
> >I guess my base question is, how many regulars ore on this list, and of them
> >how many are NOT perverts with an IQ in double digits.
--------------------
Botanicus is a stupid buttfuck Xtian. He wishes to pose a question so
that those who disagree with him he can label ignorant perverts, when he
is the one whose ignorance perverts nature. My SATs were 99.7
percentile, is THAT good enough for you dipshit? That works out to about
an IQ of 165. Degrees in physics and engineering. And *I* think you're a
low-grade moron, intellectually, religiously, philosophically and
ethically. You even have the classic rule-based psychology with no
esteem for your own reasoning ability or that of others. You imagine
that a book that was quite obviously written by control-freaks to
manipulate people was crafted by the one ultimate all-knowing supreme
being, but this being seems to have left out of the bible even the fact
that the world is a planet!! You're the kind who believes the world will
end at midnight on December 31st, 1999 at 23:59:59.99999 hours but still
don't understand why we're laughing when we ask him what time zone will
go first!!
Steve

Botanicus

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Dec 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/21/99
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my reasoning (in part) is as follows
first off, the world won't end at midnight
second, my view of swearing
I see people that swear as unintelligent people who cannot think of anything
better to say. this is reinforced constantly by what I see on this group,
and at school, the TV, movies, friends, teachers etc. the more I intelligent
a person is, the less they swear. that is how it is I nmy 'sphere of
influence' to use a psych term.

one question for you though.. why do you have degree when you are 16,17,
or18? child protegy or pedophile?
--


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Dani

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On Tue, 21 Dec 1999 19:21:55 -0500, "Botanicus"
<m...@hillsideyouth.freeNOSPAMservers.com> wrote:

>my reasoning (in part) is as follows
>first off, the world won't end at midnight
>second, my view of swearing
>I see people that swear as unintelligent people who cannot think of anything
>better to say. this is reinforced constantly by what I see on this group,
>and at school, the TV, movies, friends, teachers etc. the more I intelligent
>a person is, the less they swear. that is how it is I nmy 'sphere of
>influence' to use a psych term.
>
>one question for you though.. why do you have degree when you are 16,17,
>or18? child protegy or pedophile?

I know (hope) you were not attacking me, but it seems to me that
you're calling people that swear (thus, non-religious people)
unintelligent. I think intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with
religion. I'm not religious but still in university. And in my country
people don't enter uni that easily, believe me. What you see in teen
newsgroup (maybe not this one) are teen issues. Some of which I bet
you're dealing with as well. Alt.teens.16-18 might not be a perfect
example, but take, for example, alt.teens. I'm a reg in that ng as
well and it's a grooup of people that really care about eachother.
There really is a .ot of love going on over there.
I suppose you're a teen as well, so you know that teens are not
rotten, even if they do swear.

Dl Insanitee

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I somehow doubt that by swearing I lower my intelligence
Its like saying Every Single time I write FUCK my IQ goes down Somehow I doubt
that too
I swear alot, dont know why and really i could care less.
Im also smart, not a genius or some shit like that but smart, like hold a 90%
average no problem smart
Your saying that because i swear Im not smart right?
NE way i shouldnt even be on ehre 'cause im only 15 but ill be 16 in a few
months so whatever

Botanicus wrote:

> my reasoning (in part) is as follows
> first off, the world won't end at midnight
> second, my view of swearing
> I see people that swear as unintelligent people who cannot think of anything
> better to say. this is reinforced constantly by what I see on this group,
> and at school, the TV, movies, friends, teachers etc. the more I intelligent
> a person is, the less they swear. that is how it is I nmy 'sphere of
> influence' to use a psych term.
>
> one question for you though.. why do you have degree when you are 16,17,
> or18? child protegy or pedophile?

Dani

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On Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:44:13 GMT, Dl Insanitee <pere...@escape.ca>
wrote:


>NE way i shouldnt even be on ehre 'cause im only 15 but ill be 16 in a few
>months so whatever

That's not very smart ;-)

Dani

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http://fly.to/ekuar

"Tu ne trouves pas le paradis que tu recherches.
Tu essayes de l'imposer. Tu essayes de dormir. Tu esseyes d'oublier.
Trouver le paradis n'est pas facile. Je l'ai appris moi aussi.
Alors, écoute de tout tes oreilles et ouvre les yeux. Le paradis...
Mes enfants, c'est tout simple. Si nous prenons le temps,
Si nous regardons tout autour, si nous apprecions l'amour,
trouver le paradis n'est plus difficile. Je l'ai appris moi aussi."

Botanicus

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Dec 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/23/99
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to say you guys miss interpreted the post would be an understatement. I
mean no disrespect, but I did not say that swearing lowers IQ's. only that
the lower the IQ the more people swear, in my experience. Idealize that very
intelligent people swear, and that there are very stupid people that don't.
but my reasoning is that if a person was INTELLIGENT, (not smart, there is a
difference) and articulate (part of intelligence) they would not use word
that have little meaning, if any. Donkeys, female dogs, fortification,
illegitimate children, what ever word strikes your fancy, look at what it
MEANS, by definition, when you say it. then see if you SOUND smart, or like
an idiot

--
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Botanicus

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