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New Fundamental Discovery? Electrostatic Spin?

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sanman

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Apr 4, 2003, 6:28:07 PM4/4/03
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Here's an interesting article:

http://www.newsroom.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/display.cgi?id=548

But is this "new fundamental force" for real?
What conventional explanations can justify the observed results?
Otherwise, what are the implications for science and technology?

Gordon D. Pusch

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Apr 4, 2003, 8:01:56 PM4/4/03
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mano...@yahoo.com (sanman) writes:

> Here's an interesting article:
>
> http://www.newsroom.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/display.cgi?id=548
>
> But is this "new fundamental force" for real?

These authors are =NOT= claiming a "new fundamental force." If you had
bothered to do a trivial websearch on the author's names, you would have
found the abstract to their actual scientific paper, and learned that what
the authors are claiming is that the induced charge redistribution caused
by the physical proximity of macroscopic conducting objects can result in
macroscopic electrostaic torques on those objects --- which is hardly
world-shaking news !!!


> What conventional explanations can justify the observed results?

Maxwell's equations and Newton's law of action and reaction.


> Otherwise, what are the implications for science and technology?

Sanman, once again you have leaped to a riduculous conclusion because you
read a piece of crap press release that like virtually all piece of crap
press releases has blown something trivial up into something world-shattering,
while TOTALLY GARBLING THE SCIENCE INVOLVED. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN
THAT PRESS RELEASES ARE NEARLY ALWAYS BULLSHIT ?!?!?!?

You should =ALWAYS= go to the source material, and find out what the
authors =REALLY= said !!! PRESS RELEASES =CANNNOT= BE TRUSTED !!!!!!


-- Gordon D. Pusch

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erincss

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Apr 12, 2003, 12:44:17 AM4/12/03
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But my question to both you, Gordon, and Sanman: Can this result in engineering
of materials in which matter is somehow made stronger, by altering spins, or
no?


Gordon D. Pusch

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Apr 12, 2003, 11:00:13 AM4/12/03
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eri...@aol.com (erincss) writes:

Erin, please re-read my post. This effect is a SMALL electrostatic
proximity-torque between MACROSCOPIC objects due to their MACROSCOPIC
charge distribution. It has NOTHING to do with electron spin, and it
does NOT influence material properties !!!

erincss

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Apr 13, 2003, 2:56:19 AM4/13/03
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>Gordon D. Pusch

> This effect is a SMALL electrostatic
>proximity-torque between MACROSCOPIC objects due to their MACROSCOPIC
>charge distribution. It has NOTHING to do with electron spin, and it
>does NOT influence material properties !!!

Thank you.

I have pondered how control of electron spin could allow us to effect material
properties of a macro structure.


Richard D. Saam

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Apr 29, 2003, 11:04:05 AM4/29/03
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Trisine superconductor model:


http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/physics/9905007

Richard Saam

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