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David Marx

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05.08.2002, 06:25:0105.08.02
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Ok, so in a Euro referendum Scotland, northern Ireland and Wales all vote
"YES", and England vote "No"???!!! What happens then?

Regards all.


Steve Cooper

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05.08.2002, 08:26:0205.08.02
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I'd guess by this you mean if Scotland, N.I, and Wales vote
YES, but the overall U.K vote is NO. Then the result would
be a NO. This wouldn't stop an independent scotland joining
at some future point, but you would not have 2 currency zones
within the U.K.

Otherwise it would depend on the ratio's of YES to NO in the
different nations of the U.K. Just as Scotland, N.I and Wales
would have to accept a NO vote, if the UK overall vote was a
YES, England would have to accept that result.

Interestingly though, there are methods discussed how Scotland
etc. could get their independence, and so go a different route
to the rest of the U.K regarding the Euro. I don't know of any
mechanism by which England could get independence from the rest
of the U.K.

Steve Cooper

Bob Brenchley.

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05.08.2002, 09:15:4005.08.02
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On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:25:01 +0100, David Marx <jpk_...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Ok, so in a Euro referendum Scotland, northern Ireland and Wales all vote
>"YES", and England vote "No"???!!! What happens then?
>
>Regards all.
>

We are one nation, the United Kingdom. It is the total vote over all
regions that counts.

--
Bob.

You have not been charged for this lesson. Please pass it to all your
friends so they may learn as well.

Wallace-Macpherson

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05.08.2002, 13:19:5605.08.02
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"Bob Brenchley." wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:25:01 +0100, David Marx <jpk_...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Ok, so in a Euro referendum Scotland, northern Ireland and Wales all vote
> >"YES", and England vote "No"???!!! What happens then?
> >
> >Regards all.
> >
> We are one nation, the United Kingdom. It is the total vote over all
> regions that counts.
>
> --
> Bob.

There may be reason to take account of regional distribution of votes in a
country-wide referendum. This can help to ensure fairness and to avoid that
regions which divert very strongly on a particular issue are not "dictated
to" by the majority.

For very serious matters such as international treaties and constitutional
issues I believe that the Swiss have a "Doppelmehr" clause for referendums.
This means that not only is a majority required over the whole country but
also more than half of the cantons must be in agreement (Ständemehr).

Wallace-Macpherson


Bob Brenchley.

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05.08.2002, 16:47:5405.08.02
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On Mon, 05 Aug 2002 19:19:56 +0200, Wallace-Macpherson <m...@iniref.org>
wrote:

>
>
>"Bob Brenchley." wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:25:01 +0100, David Marx <jpk_...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Ok, so in a Euro referendum Scotland, northern Ireland and Wales all vote
>> >"YES", and England vote "No"???!!! What happens then?
>> >
>> >Regards all.
>> >
>> We are one nation, the United Kingdom. It is the total vote over all
>> regions that counts.
>>
>> --
>> Bob.
>
>There may be reason to take account of regional distribution of votes in a
>country-wide referendum. This can help to ensure fairness and to avoid that
>regions which divert very strongly on a particular issue are not "dictated
>to" by the majority.

We work on the majority system.


>
>For very serious matters such as international treaties and constitutional
>issues I believe that the Swiss have a "Doppelmehr" clause for referendums.
>This means that not only is a majority required over the whole country but
>also more than half of the cantons must be in agreement (Ständemehr).
>
>Wallace-Macpherson
>

--
Bob.

Dogs believe they are human. Cats believe they are God.

Peter Smyth

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05.08.2002, 18:11:1605.08.02
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"Wallace-Macpherson" <m...@iniref.org> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Bob Brenchley." wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:25:01 +0100, David Marx <jpk_...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Ok, so in a Euro referendum Scotland, northern Ireland and Wales all
vote
> > >"YES", and England vote "No"???!!! What happens then?
> > >
> > >Regards all.
> > >
> > We are one nation, the United Kingdom. It is the total vote over all
> > regions that counts.
> >
> > --
> > Bob.
>
> There may be reason to take account of regional distribution of votes in a
> country-wide referendum. This can help to ensure fairness and to avoid
that
> regions which divert very strongly on a particular issue are not "dictated
> to" by the majority.

Is it preferable to be "dictated to" by the minority?

Peter Smyth


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