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How to stop IE6 image shrink/resize by putting something in the web page (e.g., a meta tag)

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Dave Burton

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7. mar. 2002, 17.01.1107.03.2002
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Some pictures just aren't worth looking at at less than full size.
For pages that display such pictures, I'd like to disable Internet
Explorer 6.0's automatic resizing (shrinking) of images, perhaps with
a <meta...> tag. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

Note that I am NOT asking how to disable this feature in IE6. I know
how to do that:

Tools -> Internet Options -> Advanced -> Enable automatic image
resizing (uncheck)

Thanks!

-Dave Burton
dave146 at burtonsys.com

brucie

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7. mar. 2002, 17.18.5307.03.2002
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In post <e401873.02030...@posting.google.com>,
Dave Burton said...

> Some pictures just aren't worth looking at at less than full size.

in your opinion

> For pages that display such pictures, I'd like to disable Internet
> Explorer 6.0's automatic resizing (shrinking) of images, perhaps with
> a <meta...> tag. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

it's *my* browser and *I* happen to like that "feature". *I* can decide
for myself what I want enabled/disabled on *my* browser.

your time would be better spent developing content not ways to screw
with the visitors browser.

--
brucie

Jukka K. Korpela

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8. mar. 2002, 13.22.0908.03.2002
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dav...@burtonsys.com (Dave Burton) wrote:

> Some pictures just aren't worth looking at at less than full size.
> For pages that display such pictures, I'd like to disable Internet
> Explorer 6.0's automatic resizing (shrinking) of images, perhaps with
> a <meta...> tag. Can anyone tell me how to do that?

When I first observed that feature, it was very confusing. It still is. And
it's not regular: I have the feature enabled on my IE 6.0, yet I fail to
produce the effect, even if I try with an image that is wider than my screen.

Anyway, it seems that Microsoft did not invent a way that authors could use
to fight against that (mis)feature. Compare
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/customizing/autoresize.asp
which describe nothing that authors could use, just browser settings, with
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/using/howto/customizing/imgtoolbar.asp
with describes another (mis)feature, the image tool box, and suggests some
Microsoft-invented HTML hacks to defeat it.

--
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
Pages about Web authoring: http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www.html

Dave Burton

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9. mar. 2002, 02.06.2609.03.2002
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brucie <bruc...@alt-html.org> wrote in message <MPG.16f28443c...@News.CIS.DFN.DE>...


Brucie,

The following page has links to nine examples (all labeled
"Someone else's test results") which are not worth viewing when
shrunken, because there's no point looking at them unless you
can read the text, and when the pages are shrunken the text is
illegible:

http://www.burtonsys.com/sarcoma/Weisenthal/public_links.html

That is the page for which I was trying to disable automatic
resizing. It (obviously) is not a commercial web page. The
nine files are there for the benefit of leiomyosarcoma (cancer)
patients (like my Mom), who are interested in Tumor Cell Culture
Drug Resistance Testing, and want to know what the reports look
like from the lab we used (Weisenthal Cancer Group).

-Dave

Rick

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9. mar. 2002, 07.13.5609.03.2002
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Dave, I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but when the picture
shrinks, put your cursor over the image and pause.....in a moment a popup
with arrows will appear. Click on that to resize image to full size, and the
opposite to reshink. It works and is very simple........maybe too simple :)
Rick
"Dave Burton" <dav...@burtonsys.com> wrote in message
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Jukka K. Korpela

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9. mar. 2002, 08.39.2909.03.2002
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dav...@burtonsys.com (Dave Burton) wrote:

> The following page has links to nine examples - -
> which are not worth viewing when shrunken, - -
> http://www.burtonsys.com/sarcoma/Weisenthal/public_links.html

OK, the URL helps, as usual.

First, as Rick wrote, the IE 6 user who sees a shrunken image can enlarge it
to its normal size. But it's natural to be worried about the problems that
your visitors may have with this (mis)feature.

It now seems to me that IE 6 only shrinks an image if an image itself, alone,
is viewed in the browser window. This is strictly speaking not an HTML issue
at all. The same phenomenon occurs if someone directly visits, say,
http://www.burtonsys.com/sarcoma/Weisenthal/Assay10.png
instead of following a link in a HTML document.

On the other hand, this implies that HTML comes to rescue: you can just
create a trivial HTML document that need not (for your practical purpose
here) contain anything but an <img> element that refers to the image. Then it
becomes an embedded image, which will get different treatment from IE 6. You
would then link to the HTML documents, of course.

But you might just as well write a normal, though very small, HTML document,
with a <title> element, perhaps a heading (corresponding to the content of
the image) and maybe even some explanations below the image. This might help
especially as regards to the findability of the data via search engines; they
eat text, and even a short but descriptive text on the page might some day
help someone find information that is relevant to him.

The images seem to contain information that could mostly be presented using
just text and HTML markup (including <table> markup), apart from small
graphic parts. This would make the data much more accessible. Naturally, it
would take quite some work to convert a large number of reports that way,
especially since it might need to be done manually. So this approach is
probably not feasible here; I mentioned it just to point out a method that
could help in somewhat similar situations.

Bill Clark

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9. mar. 2002, 14.12.2809.03.2002
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Dave Burton wrote:

> That is the page for which I was trying to disable automatic
> resizing. It (obviously) is not a commercial web page. The
> nine files are there for the benefit of leiomyosarcoma (cancer)
> patients (like my Mom), who are interested in Tumor Cell Culture
> Drug Resistance Testing, and want to know what the reports look
> like from the lab we used (Weisenthal Cancer Group).

This strikes me as all the more reason to make the page(s) browser
friendly...While not commercial you/they are, nonetheless, trying to sell
ideas and dispense information...

--
Growing old is compulsory... Growing up is optional...

Dave Burton

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9. mar. 2002, 15.37.0509.03.2002
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"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkor...@cs.tut.fi> wrote in
<Xns91CC9F68D786...@193.229.0.31>...

> It now seems to me that IE 6 only shrinks an image if an image itself, alone,
> is viewed in the browser window. This is strictly speaking not an HTML issue
> at all. The same phenomenon occurs if someone directly visits, say,
> http://www.burtonsys.com/sarcoma/Weisenthal/Assay10.png
> instead of following a link in a HTML document.
>
> On the other hand, this implies that HTML comes to rescue: you can just
> create a trivial HTML document that need not (for your practical purpose
> here) contain anything but an <img> element that refers to the image. Then it
> becomes an embedded image, which will get different treatment from IE 6. You
> would then link to the HTML documents, of course.


Thank you, Jukka! That solves the problem. I'm embarrassed that
I didn't notice this behavior myself.

I have just now created the 9 tiny HTML pages needed, and
adjusted the links in
http://www.burtonsys.com/sarcoma/Weisenthal/public_links.html

It took about 5 minutes. The pages look like (for example):

<HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY>
<img src="Assay2.png">
</BODY></HTML>

BTW, kudos for a very nice collection of HTML authoring information
that you have on your site at http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www.html

Gratefully yours,
-Dave

Lars Kasper

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9. mar. 2002, 16.39.2409.03.2002
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dav...@burtonsys.com (Dave Burton) wrote:

> I have just now created the 9 tiny HTML pages needed,

[...]


> It took about 5 minutes. The pages look like (for example):
>
> <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY>
> <img src="Assay2.png">
> </BODY></HTML>

Please insert a <TITLE>text</TITLE> within the head section, as
TITLE is a required element in HTML. Use some short, useful text
in the title to describe the page's content (your image).

Then HTML validator, search engines and people bookmarking your
pages will be you friends :-)


Lars Kasper
--
<http://www.this-page-intentionally-left-blank.org/>

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