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John_in_NJ
Spielberg stuff
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John :)
Tom Sevart
"John_in_NJ" <man...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I heard some weird stuff on 5435 USB (I think) tonite. Weird ! Steven
> Spielberg stuff
>
> ftp://68.39.105.157/et.mp3
I'm having trouble downloading the sound file, but I'm hearing the "whales"
signal there.
Tom
Mark S. Holden
Part of the sound track to Star Trek IV?
Good to know we'll be safe from that probe for yet another day. :)
John_in_NJ
>"whales" signal there.
>
Weird isnt it ? Wonder what that is ?
John_in_NJ
>Part of the sound track to Star Trek IV?
>
>Good to know we'll be safe from that probe for yet another day. :)
>
Did you hear it ?
Mark S. Holden
John_in_NJ wrote:
>
> >
> >Part of the sound track to Star Trek IV?
> >
> >Good to know we'll be safe from that probe for yet another day. :)
> >
>
> Did you hear it ?
>
I downloaded the MP3, and played it on winamp.
It did sound like whale song, with some electronic blather every so
often for good measure.
John_in_NJ
>often for good measure.
>
Yeah. Maybe that's what it is ? Someone trying to attract whales somewhere ?
:)
Tom Sevart
> >I'm having trouble downloading the sound file, but I'm hearing the
> >"whales" signal there.
> >
>
> Weird isnt it ? Wonder what that is ?
>
Probably just feedback introduced into a transmitter. These have been heard
for years on various frequencies, usually on or near a US Navy frequency.
It's easy to get the same effect by holding the mic of an SSB transmitter
near the speaker of a receiver tuned to the same frequency. The farther
away the TX/RX are in freq, the faster the sine wave will repeat, and may
sound like a jammer. Slowly tuning the TX/RX together in freq will slow it
down, until you get the "whale" sound. Theoretically you could get the
RX/TX tuned together to where you'd have just a steady tone. But in
practice it would be very hard to do, and usually the best signal you can
get is the whale song.
Tom
John_in_NJ
>heard for years on various frequencies, usually on or near a US Navy
>frequency. It's easy to get the same effect by holding the mic of an SSB
>transmitter near the speaker of a receiver tuned to the same frequency.
>The farther away the TX/RX are in freq, the faster the sine wave will
>repeat, and may sound like a jammer. Slowly tuning the TX/RX together
>in freq will slow it down, until you get the "whale" sound.
>Theoretically you could get the RX/TX tuned together to where you'd have
>just a steady tone. But in practice it would be very hard to do, and
>usually the best signal you can get is the whale song.
I like that whale sound :) Maybe it really is a signal being tranmsitted
out in the Atlantic somewhere to attract whales ? Im going to listen to
that freq tonite and see if it's back.
Mark S. Holden
Hi
My best guess is someone was tuning up a transmitter or an antenna and
broadcast whatever tape was handy. The fact it sounds like whales may
or may not mean the transmitter is aboard a ship.
John_in_NJ
>broadcast whatever tape was handy. The fact it sounds like whales may
>or may not mean the transmitter is aboard a ship.
Maybe it was a whale !!! :) They say whales communicate across oceans so maybe
5434Khz is the freq they use :->
RolloŽ
>My best guess is someone was tuning up a transmitter or an antenna and
>broadcast whatever tape was handy. The fact it sounds like whales may
>or may not mean the transmitter is aboard a ship.
Nope, this is a fairly well-known thing--called the "Whale Station" or
"Backwards Music Station". It has nothing to do with either backwards music or
whales. Theories abound about what it is, the most plausible being feedback or
heterodynes of multiple carriers.
It's heard on LOTS of frequencies. I get it pretty regularly on 8330.
There's also a numbers station that appears on some of the same frequencies at
different times. Many of the frequencies it's logged on are Coast Guard
frequencies, but I don't want to confuse correlation with causation. I also
don't understand the link with the numbers station.
Here's a few links about it:
http://cisquet.future.easyspace.com/numbers.htm
http://www.ominous-valve.com/bms.html
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/brogers/page6.html
There are lots of others.
John_in_NJ
>"Backwards Music Station". It has nothing to do with either backwards
>music or whales. Theories abound about what it is, the most plausible
>being feedback or heterodynes of multiple carriers.
So you are saying it's originating from Havana ? :)
Diverd4777
writes:
Ferb 25, 2002, 23:51 U.T.C
Sounds like a numbers station ( womans voice saying ECHO CHARLIE ZULU FOXTROT)
with intermittant feedback Jamming in the background..
just enough to screw up decoding of a one-time pad..
Dan ( ICOM -R -75 East Coast NYC..)
Diverd4777
00:06 5.435 usb Womans voice saying stuff like
" INDIA TANGO FOXTROX ALPHA ECHO WHISKY, ZULU"
withintermittant jamming / teletype in the background..
JUST enough to screw up a opne time pad decoding
( Someone in the middle east, no doubt ?? any ideas )
Dan
( ICOM R-75 USB, DSP, NR, PREAMP 2, NF,
100 foot antenna )
RolloŽ
>So you are saying it's originating from Havana ? :)
>
I don't THINK I said that in my post.
Anyway, I gave you the wrong frequency.
I've heard it lately on 8085. In fact I programmed an R75 button for that freq.
Re: 8085, there's at least 2 spook stations that use that frequency
sometimes--E5, thought to be in Virginia, and V2a, which sometimes comes across
mixed with Radio Havana. You can make up your own mind about which agencies
these might be.
And you logged it on 5435, right? That's a fairly well known spook
frequency--something called E10 that is supposedly Mossad.
So take your pick, LOL.
It's also been heard a LOT recently on 2662, which isn't a spook frequency.
Anyway, it's the Whale or Backwards Music station. Not much more known about it
than that. Search the Spooks database for XM to see who else has heard it on
what frequencies.
Radioman390
Whales North of the Equator use USB, I'm told
John_in_NJ
>
>Whales North of the Equator use USB, I'm told
>
USB
Tom Sevart
"RolloŽ" <Rollo_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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It's quiet tonight on 5434, but still hearing that unid high-speed data
burst signal on 5435.
> There's also a numbers station that appears on some of the same
frequencies at
> different times. Many of the frequencies it's logged on are Coast Guard
> frequencies, but I don't want to confuse correlation with causation. I
also
> don't understand the link with the numbers station.
The only link with numbers stations that I can see is that it is an
unidentified signal, which some of us numbers monitors are interested in.
But it's not really all that mysterious, I think.
Tom
Tom Sevart
"Diverd4777" <diver...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <91C0FB5Fma...@68.39.105.157>, man...@aol.com
(John_in_NJ)
> writes:
>
> 00:06 5.435 usb Womans voice saying stuff like
> " INDIA TANGO FOXTROX ALPHA ECHO WHISKY, ZULU"
> withintermittant jamming / teletype in the background..
> JUST enough to screw up a opne time pad decoding
>
> ( Someone in the middle east, no doubt ?? any ideas )
>
Yes, 5435 is a YL/EE Mossad E10 station. The teletype you refer to is a
unid high-speed data signal that I've heard on this freq and others for
years.
Tom
Banjo Power
Has anyone found what they think might be "HAARP" yet?
What freq?
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RolloŽ
>
>
>Has anyone found what they think might be "HAARP" yet?
>What freq?
>
download page
http://home.luna.nl/~ary/download.htm
I never got into the HAARP hysteria, but I don't think HAARP just parks on a
frequency. I believe it sweeps up the HF bands looking for the MUF. Of course
if you're gonna use it to engrave crop circles, cause tidal waves, or make snow
for the Salt Lake Olympics, it'd probably need to use JUST the right frequency.
<sigh> another aspect of SWL I need to learn about.
Radioman390
>> >often for good measure.
ok
Navy subs might be recording whale talk and transmitting i tto land stations
for identification,,
or this might be messages to those US Navy-trained dolphins and whales. Could
be instructions to sink a ship or follow a sub.
Who knows how far this talking to dolphins and other sea mammals has gone.
John_in_NJ
>stations for identification,,
>
>or this might be messages to those US Navy-trained dolphins and whales.
>Could be instructions to sink a ship or follow a sub.
>
>Who knows how far this talking to dolphins and other sea mammals has
>gone.
Yeah, it's very interesting to me :) I dont think anyone would be
transmitting whale sounds just for kicks. No question that special forces
has trained dolphins. Who knows what they may be doing.
Tom Sevart
"Radioman390" <radio...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> or this might be messages to those US Navy-trained dolphins and whales.
Could
> be instructions to sink a ship or follow a sub.
>
> Who knows how far this talking to dolphins and other sea mammals has gone.
What kind of receivers do dolphins & whales use? The whales would probably
find the large Sat. 800 a good match.
Tom
John_in_NJ
>probably find the large Sat. 800 a good match.
>
They have far superior receivers than us humans can create with electronic
circuits. :) If the theory on whales is correct, that they can communicate
across oceans, it's amazing :)
GrtPmpkin32
>across oceans, it's amazing :)
>
Yep, just like subs, though far more efficient. Also, don't whales 'speak'
across the depths at very low frequency? Or is it very high? Theory or not, I
suddenly can't recall which 'range' of the spectrum they'd have to use to do
it. ELF or somewhere in there would be my guess.
Linus
John_in_NJ
>'speak' across the depths at very low frequency? Or is it very high?
>Theory or not, I suddenly can't recall which 'range' of the spectrum
>they'd have to use to do it. ELF or somewhere in there would be my
>guess. Linus
Yup, whales are amazing. I think I'd prefer to be a whale swimming around in
the south pacific :)
GrtPmpkin32
>Yup, whales are amazing. I think I'd prefer to be a whale swimming around in
>the south pacific :)
>
That'd be nice, though I'd tend to stay away from commercial fishing waters...
but then again, I could really go to town on those Greenpeace rafts!
Linus
John_in_NJ
>waters... but then again, I could really go to town on those Greenpeace
>rafts! Linus
>
:o) Yeah but stay away from the Japanese fishing boats :-(
James Arnold
>:>Navy subs might be recording whale talk and transmitting i tto land
>:
There was a story that they had trained chickens to sit in the front
of missiles and guide them in. They had done some behavioral
conditioning so that they would peck at different parts of a circle to
guide the thing in. Sort of a joy stick for chickens thing.
-J. Arnold
John_in_NJ
>of missiles and guide them in. They had done some behavioral
>conditioning so that they would peck at different parts of a circle to
>guide the thing in. Sort of a joy stick for chickens thing.
Ummmmm, somehow I doubt that :)
Banjo Power
says...
There was a history of missiles on the History Channel a few weeks back.
Apparently, some Japanese missiles during WWII were guided by two men,
who of course sacrificed their lives in the process.
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Ross Archer
Doubt that there was ever this story, or that there were
actually "missle-pilot joystick" chickens? ;)
John_in_NJ
>actually "missle-pilot joystick" chickens? ;)
>
Sorta doubt a chicken could even survive riding a missile :)
GrtPmpkin32
>
Didn't a chicken ride a missile in Dr. Strangelove?
No wait, that was a Pickens...
Linus
Tom Sevart
"Earl E. Byrd" <earl...@sun.up> wrote in message
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> >Didn't a chicken ride a missile in Dr. Strangelove?
> >No wait, that was a Pickens...
>
>
Interesting bit of useless trivia: Just after the movie was made, one line
was redubbed. The line was in the scene where the crew was looking through
their survival kit, and Chill Will's character says, "Shoot, a fella could
have a real fun weekend in Vegas with that." The original line was, "Shoot,
a fella could have a real weekend night in Dallas with that" but was
changed. The reason for the line change? JFK's assasination in Dallas just
after the movie was made.
And now you know... the rest of the story. Good day.
Tom
Gray Shockley
(in message <au6v7ug7sjao7cdkh...@4ax.com>):
>> Didn't a chicken ride a missile in Dr. Strangelove?
>> No wait, that was a Pickens...
>
> Slim chance of that ever happening.
>
That wasn't a missile, that was a bum.
GrtPmpkin32
>>> No wait, that was a Pickens...
>>
>> Slim chance of that ever happening.
>>
>
>That wasn't a missile, that was a bum.
<am... and I thought MY pun was terrible! :-)
Linus