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openstep 4.2 in athalon thunderbird 850MHz (ASUS K7V133 mobo)?

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Thas

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Nov 26, 2001, 4:50:28 PM11/26/01
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Hi all,

I would like to install Openstep 4.2 in a system with following specs:
CPU: AMD Thunderbird 850MHz
Mobo: ASUS K7V133
Harddisk controller: I'm connecting my 40G drive to onboard ATA100
controller.
HD: connected to primary controller (master)
CDROM: also connected to primary controller (slave)
Video: ATI Rage IIc (I this works because this is what we use at work)

I realize that the onboard ATA100 controller (promise chipset)
definitely does not work with OpenStep. But neigher the CDROM nor the
harddisk is being detected EVEN when I connect them to the primary
ATA66 connectors on the mobo!
I also realize that openstep will not "see" the whole 40G. I only want
it to reside in the first 2G. I hope to put Linux/Win9x in the
remaining space.

Anyone had any success/failure with this particular hardware
configuration. At work, openstep works fine even on P4 systems (HP
Vectras).

Thanks.
-Thas

Moderato

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Nov 28, 2001, 1:35:07 PM11/28/01
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I think it'd be easier if you install OS4.2 on a Virtual Computer,
instead of a real computer.. I really doubt there would be a OS42
driver for Promise chipsets ever ...
Anyways, I suggest you take a look at Connectix's offer :
VirtualPC for Windows ...
( I got everytying working under VPC , IDE support, Color display,
networking ..etc , plus Connectix seems to to care more about NS/OS
then Vmware )
have a look at http://www.connectix.com

Have fun.


Tim.


tha...@hotmail.com (Thas) wrote in message news:<bdac63f7.01112...@posting.google.com>...


> Hi all,
>
> I would like to install Openstep 4.2 in a system with following specs:

arddisk controller: I'm connecting my 40G drive to onboard ATA100

Thas

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Dec 7, 2001, 9:52:34 AM12/7/01
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mode...@runbox.com (Moderato) wrote in message news:<bbff6706.01112...@posting.google.com>...

> I think it'd be easier if you install OS4.2 on a Virtual Computer,
> instead of a real computer.. I really doubt there would be a OS42
> driver for Promise chipsets ever ...
> Anyways, I suggest you take a look at Connectix's offer :
> VirtualPC for Windows ...
> ( I got everytying working under VPC , IDE support, Color display,
> networking ..etc , plus Connectix seems to to care more about NS/OS
> then Vmware )
> have a look at http://www.connectix.com

Well... That would require me to install windoz I guess...
But it is perhaps a better solution since it would require no
rebooting.
I found the (free) solution my problem and have it detailed below:

> tha...@hotmail.com (Thas) wrote in message news:<bdac63f7.01112...@posting.google.com>...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would like to install Openstep 4.2 in a system with following specs:
> arddisk controller: I'm connecting my 40G drive to onboard ATA100
> > Anyone had any success/failure with this particular hardware
> > configuration. At work, openstep works fine even on P4 systems (HP
> > Vectras).

SOLUTION: (Sorry for the excessive use of the words
'primary'/'secondary')
- First of all OS4.2 does not talk to ATA100 promise controller
- So dig out that old 3G drive (or remove that extra drive from your
wife's machine -- as I did!) and connect it to the normal IDE primary
controller as the master drive. ASUS (I don't know for how long this
would remain true) has both IDE controller and the fast promise
controller -- both with separate connectors.
- Connect any ATAPI CDROM as the slave drive TO THE SAME primary IDE
controller.
- You can keep your 30/40G 7200RPM drives connected (as the master) to
the ATA100 controller.
- Now you can boot using the OS4.2 install floppy and select
EIDE/ATAPI driver and you would be able to see both the harddisk and
the cdrom.

So how do you choose which drive to boot from?

- ASUS BIOS allows you to select the boot sequence. Leave Floppy and
CDROM as the first and second options. For your third choice you can
either select the PROMISE controller or the IDE drive connected to the
normal IDE controller.

Caveats:
- you cannot see the CDROM connected to the normal primary IDE
controller when you are booting from the ATA100 controller. So you
would have to either stick another cdrom drive in 1) secondary
connector of the normal IDE controller OR 2) move the CDROM after
installation of OS4.2 to the secondary connector of the ATA100
controller.

The strange thing is that I can see the OpenStep drive from within
Linux (which resides in ATA100 drive)! Anyone knows why I can't see
the CDROM when it is connected to the primary connector?

Hope this helps anyone (still) looking to ways of installing this nice
OS in newer platforms.

PS: When you dual boot you need an app called timeshift to prevent
mangling of the hardware clock. My sys.admin gave me this tip.

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