Derek's own toadies backstabbing him! FFAS
Joe
Starts of as an ass-kissing session then someone mentions what an ass Derek is
and they all chime in! Heres the best post, someone whines that the community
has died then Chavik says:
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Chavik
Tacops Commander
USA
152 Posts Posted - 05/09/2002 : 01:18:11
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I reckon it is because the game has matured.
Hopefully multiplay will spur new enthusiasm.
Chavik
ICV Phoenix, Sygan Starstation (Sygan)
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The game has matured? It came out in December didn't it? LMAO!
Read both pages, great and sickening stuff there. ;)
Bruce
I think the slow witted toadies are slowly beginning to realise that
BCM is a failure, Multiplayer will probably never happen and Derek is
a loon.
LostSole
bridge too.
"Bruce" <Br...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Bill Huffman
whimper? My prediction is that the end will be even less than a whimper. I
believe that we're now witnessing the silent death twitches of a career wrought
from fraud lies and hype. I don't think that his forum will exist much longer as
more and more realize that MP is never happening and neither are the XP add-ons.
I really have to hand to the man though. For a game designer with an admittedly
great game concept but absolutely no talent for game designing and only mediocre
programming skills, he has essentially used hype and lies to take him much
further than I would have ever believed was possible.
aggies
Dick Garage
Well said!
--
" I can't help it if I possess a vastly superior intellect
and skillset than most. Its in my nature."" In case you were
wondering, yes, I'm a fucking genius.""I MADE ME."
"Know your place and BOW YOUR HEAD damnit!""..
remember, my comments are NOT designed to win
anyone over. I am me.
-Derek Smart, VE3D comment board, December 2001.
Bill Huffman
"Dick Garage" <di...@garage.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 May 2002 06:17:15 GMT, "Bill Huffman"
> <bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >How will the the tumultuos career of the exposed fraud end, with a bang or a
> >whimper? My prediction is that the end will be even less than a whimper. I
> >believe that we're now witnessing the silent death twitches of a career
wrought
> >from fraud lies and hype. I don't think that his forum will exist much longer
as
> >more and more realize that MP is never happening and neither are the XP
add-ons.
> >
> >I really have to hand to the man though. For a game designer with an
admittedly
> >great game concept but absolutely no talent for game designing and only
mediocre
> >programming skills, he has essentially used hype and lies to take him much
> >further than I would have ever believed was possible.
>
> Well said!
Oops, Derek has announced that XP is canceled. I forgot the new hype was
Generations, BCG, not XP. Oh yea and MP is going to be out in another week or
so. Sorry for the screw up.
Allan Parent
have had a larger following. BCM itself was not that bad. It is no award
winner but it was a decent game. It was the antics of DS that soured the
series. Good customer support combined with a mediocre game would have taken
him a lot further than his venom spewing rants, threats and forum lock
downs. People just get tired of that stuff. His paying fans are finally
realizing what a jerk he is.
I think back several years ago when Derek and his Battlecruiser were
splashed all over the covers of CGW magazine. He was a rising star in the
gaming industry. The gaming world was his to take. Then the Take 2 debacle
hit followed by the myriad of lies and smokescreens from Derek. The "what
ifs" are endless. What if he handled the Take 2 stuff differently? What if
he had actually fixed the game and manual in a timely manner? He would have
come across as an indie that was screwed by the big boys. He would have been
a cult hero. However, his lies compounded by threats, rants, insults and
more lies only served to tarnish his reputation and credibility to the point
he is now looked upon as a fool and a loon. It is not his game that now
draws attention from gamers but his foolish antics. His behavior has
upstaged his own game and has cost him sales and fans. Perhaps, if he had
taken the high road we would have looked upon him in the same light as Sid
Meier or other gaming pioneers. As it stands now, he is nothing more than a
pathetic buffoon that gives us a chuckle now and then and leaves us shaking
our heads.
Allan
"Bruce" <Br...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Brad Martin
This is dead right. The great shame of it all for me is that Derek
just cannot take advice, let alone criticism, the man has bundles of
tenacity and energy but he channels it negatively. It is so much
easier to tell someone 'You don't know what you're talking about' than
it is to give consideration to their opinion.
It's just a good job that the likes of me and you are perfect Allan!
brad
Allan Parent
Allan
"Brad Martin" <br...@zakalwe.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Bruce
Very true, which is one reason BCM is so buggy and unstable. Remember
how the "Gold" CD that poor Derek sent off to EB did not actually
work, even though Derek had been told about a problem with it!!
Derek apparently does not even listen to his own beta testers, or the
testers were unable to find any bugs in BCM which was released
extremely buggy.
There is also the problem that anyone who posts a bug to the Taco
Palace is likely to get their post deleted and then find themselves
banned!!
A total loser is Derek.
Bruce
This has been followed by Derek chucking yet another hissy fit at the
Taco Palace and banning even more people.
http://www.3000ad.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=001677;p=2
He has even removed the "Commanders Forum" link from the Taco Palace!
And this remark over at alt.fan.elite is a classic:
"and the BC community (if you totally excluded Derek, ) is filled with
alot of kewl, helpful people... it was fun while it lasted, but I
ain't gonna brown-nose the sucker just so I can post on his freakin'
site..."
Bill Huffman
We are very fortunate that we have two perfect gentlemen in our newsgroup
community. I'm honored just to bask in your glow.
Dick Garage
>This has been followed by Derek chucking yet another hissy fit at the
>Taco Palace and banning even more people.
>http://www.3000ad.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=001677;p=2
>
>He has even removed the "Commanders Forum" link from the Taco Palace!
Lol!
I posted the initial post in this thread because I knew Derek would see it
because I used an un-killphiltered usenet nick. He claimed he was sent an email.
Fucking liar. I knew he would go and read that thread where the toadies tell
their true feeling about the Supreme asshole. :)
FFAS. He's so predictable.
Dick Garage
More hilarity in the making!
http://www.forum.orionfleet.com/topic.asp?whichpage=3&ARCHIVEVIEW=&TOPIC_ID=217
Allan Parent
killing doing online security consulting. Right...this is from a guy that
can't even do MP in his game.
Allan
"Bruce" <Br...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Lance Art
>This has been followed by Derek chucking yet another hissy fit at the
>Taco Palace and banning even more people.
>http://www.3000ad.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=001677;p=2
It's simply more proof that Derek is unable to take criticism.
Basically, a fan of that game cannot stand the kow-towing and
headscraping bows needed to be allowed to post on Derek's forums.
Lance Art
<all...@nospam.charter.net> wrote:
>I particularly like the comment from one of the fans that Derek could make a
>killing doing online security consulting. Right...this is from a guy that
>can't even do MP in his game.
Wasn't his site previously hacked? I recall somebody posting that
they had managed to gain admin privs but was too ethical to do
anything nasty and just told Derek about his security breach.
Bill Huffman
>
> >http://www.forum.orionfleet.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=217
> >
> >Starts of as an ass-kissing session then someone mentions what an ass Derek
is
> >and they all chime in! Heres the best post, someone whines that the community
> >has died then Chavik says:
> >
> >*************************************************************
> >Chavik
> >Tacops Commander
> >
> >USA
> >152 Posts Posted - 05/09/2002 : 01:18:11
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >I reckon it is because the game has matured.
> >
> >Hopefully multiplay will spur new enthusiasm.
> >
> >Chavik
> >ICV Phoenix, Sygan Starstation (Sygan)
> >*************************************************************
> >
> >The game has matured? It came out in December didn't it? LMAO!
> >Read both pages, great and sickening stuff there. ;)
>
> This has been followed by Derek chucking yet another hissy fit at the
> Taco Palace and banning even more people.
> http://www.3000ad.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=001677;p=2
>
> He has even removed the "Commanders Forum" link from the Taco Palace!
Thanks for the link, it was most amusing to see Derek cutting off his nose to
spit his face (again!).
Question: The "Commanders Forum" link that you speak of, is it the alternative
to the Taco Palace that was setup by Peewee Commanders to allow a place to post
that had a little more freedom of speech? A place where people don't have to
express worship of the Fraud but can instead just worship his game?
Bill Huffman
> On Sun, 19 May 2002 20:23:42 +1000, Bruce <Br...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >This has been followed by Derek chucking yet another hissy fit at the
> >Taco Palace and banning even more people.
> >http://www.3000ad.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=001677;p=2
> >
> >He has even removed the "Commanders Forum" link from the Taco Palace!
>
> Lol!
>
> I posted the initial post in this thread because I knew Derek would see it
> because I used an un-killphiltered usenet nick. He claimed he was sent an
email.
> Fucking liar. I knew he would go and read that thread where the toadies tell
> their true feeling about the Supreme asshole. :)
>
> FFAS. He's so predictable.
So you admit that you're the one that showed Derek where his foot was, in this
case, so he could shoot it, again? The poor Fraud has shoot his foot so many
times, I should call him Stubby.
Hey Stubby, let's see another rant where you claim that you're in control of the
whole world. We know the truth, you're really just a puppet dancing at the end
of strings that others control. Now it is true that when your strings are
pulled, you will jerk in sometimes strange directions but you're still a puppet,
jerking in reaction to others.
Brad Martin
So that's your basking that's been clogging up my glow. I haven't been
able to sit down for a week.
brad
Bill Huffman
"Lance Art" <l_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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This is true. He guessed Derek's password. He said that it was actually a very
obvious password and that Derek had used the same password everywhere that he
had checked. He told Derek about it and IIRC Derek didn't even say so much as a
thanks, instead he flamed and attacked the guy.
Brad Martin
>Basically, a fan of that game cannot stand the kow-towing and
>headscraping bows needed to be allowed to post on Derek's forums.
I've said it before, the thing that really weirds me out is the
pecking order of bullying and threats that has developed there.
Those that get regularly slapped down by the SC, start slapping around
any unfortunate newb who strays in. It seems to be a defensive
mechanism of some kind, 'Oh yeah, you can talk to me like I'm shit,
but I can talk to him like he's shit, and that re-affirms my self
esteem'
There are many questions I have wanted to ask those who frequent the
forums, but the denial of any self worth involved in the process is
simply out of the question.
All I can say is that it's a good job people like Allan and I are so
utterly full of our own self worth as to cast an ample glow for others
less fortunate to bask in.
brad
Brad Martin
Wasn't that Ed?
What do we have for guesses about the password?
I'm going for 'Supreme'
brad
Lemming
Oh, so you are still seeing HenDick, then.
--
Lemming
Curiosity *may* have killed Schrödinger's cat.
Lemming
>What do we have for guesses about the password?
>I'm going for 'Supreme'
seekrit
Brad Martin
<l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Brad Martin <br...@zakalwe.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 19 May 2002 12:11:49 GMT, "Bill Huffman"
>><bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>We are very fortunate that we have two perfect gentlemen in our newsgroup
>>>community. I'm honored just to bask in your glow.
>>
>>So that's your basking that's been clogging up my glow. I haven't been
>>able to sit down for a week.
>
>Oh, so you are still seeing HenDick, then.
He holds a certain scandian attraction, it's not something I'd expect
the slow witted to understand.
brad
Lemming
>On Sun, 19 May 2002 19:54:22 +0100, Lemming
><l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Brad Martin <br...@zakalwe.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 19 May 2002 12:11:49 GMT, "Bill Huffman"
>>><bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>We are very fortunate that we have two perfect gentlemen in our newsgroup
>>>>community. I'm honored just to bask in your glow.
>>>
>>>So that's your basking that's been clogging up my glow. I haven't been
>>>able to sit down for a week.
>>
>>Oh, so you are still seeing HenDick, then.
>
>He holds a certain scandian attraction,
I didn't know he was a lorry driver.
> it's not something I'd expect
>the slow witted to understand.
But if you'd said in the first place he was a lorry driver, I'd have
understood about your sore bottom immediately.
Brad Martin
<l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Brad Martin <br...@zakalwe.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 19 May 2002 19:54:22 +0100, Lemming
>><l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Brad Martin <br...@zakalwe.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 19 May 2002 12:11:49 GMT, "Bill Huffman"
>>>><bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>We are very fortunate that we have two perfect gentlemen in our newsgroup
>>>>>community. I'm honored just to bask in your glow.
>>>>
>>>>So that's your basking that's been clogging up my glow. I haven't been
>>>>able to sit down for a week.
>>>
>>>Oh, so you are still seeing HenDick, then.
>>
>>He holds a certain scandian attraction,
>
>I didn't know he was a lorry driver.
Oh yes. He picked me up at junction 14, at junction 15 I was
impressed, junction 16 I was foolish, and junction 17 I was
de-flowered. It's the old story. 4 Junctions and I'm anybodies.
>> it's not something I'd expect
>>the slow witted to understand.
>
>But if you'd said in the first place he was a lorry driver, I'd have
>understood about your sore bottom immediately.
If only all of society were as tolerant as you, you dear, sweet man.
brad
Dick Garage
<bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>Question: The "Commanders Forum" link that you speak of, is it the alternative
>to the Taco Palace that was setup by Peewee Commanders to allow a place to post
>that had a little more freedom of speech? A place where people don't have to
>express worship of the Fraud but can instead just worship his game?
Yup, sure is. He threw a temper tantrum and threatened that board back in
January of February IIRC.
Dick Garage
>January of February IIRC.
of = or
doh!
Dick Garage
>The game has matured? It came out in December didn't it? LMAO!
>Read both pages, great and sickening stuff there. ;)
The Supreme idiot finally responds in his usual manner on the midget
commander's bbs:
http://www.forum.orionfleet.com/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&whichpage=3&TOPIC_ID=217
=========================================================
>Supreme Cmdr
>Lead Developer
>
>
>USA
>8 Posts Posted - 05/19/2002 : 23:13:46
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>quote:
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>Bottom line is this :-
>
>We set up this community to give people greater freedom to discuss BC
>- we didnt set it up to become a haven for antagonists, trolls and
>crybabies. We have rules here, just the same as on the main forum. Our
>rules are more lax, and we dont snap react to a dodgy post. However,
>if you post somthing here and Derek takes exception to it, theres not
>a lot we can do. Sure, we may not agree with whatever happens to you
>back at the barn, but it's his forum, his rules and his perogotive.
>
>Play nice and you'll play happy. If you throw a wobbler, dont cry foul
>if you get spanked.
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>Well, that just about settles it then.
>
>FWIW, while I'm not going to respond to every post in this thread, all
>I have to say is that I agree with most of the perspectives that
>Blades, Menchise and a few others, have given. I don't care about the
>other comments enough to comment on them.
>
>The post on my board related to this, was in order to - again - impose
>the premise that most seem to have forgotten: I don't give a toss how
>you feel about me, my methods or anything else you don't like. It
>really, truly, is that simple.
>
>While I do have concerns about the fear based premise that Menchise
>mentions, there is nothing that I can do about it. Rules and regs are
>made for a reason. If you're certain that you are doing the right
>thing, you have nothing to fear. Its like doing 90 in a 55 zone. You
>know you're over the speed limit, so, if you get a ticket, it should
>come as no surprise. But if you are doing 55-60, you have nothing to
>be concerned about.
>
>Here is a quote on p281-282 from Gavin De Becker's book The Gift Of
>Fear
>
>
>The very fact that you fear something is solid evidence that it is not
>happening. Fear summons powerful predictive resources that tell us
>what might come next. It is that which might come next that we fear -
>what might happen, not what is happening now.
>
>What you fear is rarely what you think you fear - it is what you link
>to fear.
>
>So, the idea that one has to fear posting, in order to not be roasted,
>or worse, banned, is a nonsensical and laughable cop-out. I have
>always welcomed differing opinions. I have gone overboard at times and
>then recanted decisions based on feedback. I am not perfect and while
>I do make mistakes, I am twice removed from not acknowledging same.
>
>I run my board as I see fit. If you know the rules and wish to abide
>by them; post. If you're not sure, ask or, play it safe, don't
>frigging post!! You don't have to post. At all. My board is primarily
>for tech support, not a f*cking social gathering for discussion
>politics, same sex marriages, transvestites who love their priests or
>such nonsense. Who the f*ck pays the goddamn bandwidth for that? If I
>removed the General Discussions forum, then you'd have a true tech
>support oriented forum. THATS WHAT IT IS!!!. The community aspects are
>fleet and n00b related; the former which is not widely popular due to
>the absence of mp - but who didn't know that more than a year or so
>ago?
>
>If you have stopped having fun with the game, stopped caring about the
>fan base, the site, the community etc - then, simply, well, leave. Why
>stay here and post needless diatribes about it? I know why. Because
>you can't do it on my board. Thing of it as being a bad actor. When
>you up and leave the business, nobody (except those who breathe a sigh
>of relief) will notice. Sure, there are probably a few people I'd miss
>if they left - but since I have no personal investment in their lives
>(nor theirs in mine), the feeling, in time, will pass.
>
>Anyone who even remotely thinks that I'm going to address their
>incessant nitpicking, obviously doesn't know enough about me.
>
>And if I really get pissed, I'll just switch to consoles and call it a
>day. Your loss. I'd still be making money and developing games. I
>dunno who made this a goddamn personal investment. Games are supposed
>to be about having FUN. If you're not having fun, then, well, leave.
>You can have fun with a game without posting on my board. Thats why it
>is open for viewing and you don't have to post.
>
>And while we are on the subject of posting. The General Discussions
>threads is the busiest. Always has been. I have read things on there
>that I normally wouldn't even tolerate. But I leave them up. The other
>parts of the boards are product related and have my attention.
>
>The game is almost six months old (05/19/02) and why do people expect
>there to be a lot of traffic? I know why. It is because most if not
>all game related forums, are usually littered with nonsense, repetive
>garbage and trollish diatribes. Even when the games have long been
>released. As someone pointed out, BCM has matured and in fact,
>development into the next three products have been well under way for
>over five months now. What does anyone expect? Needless posting?
>
>There IS a specific reason why I have not yet released the 1.0.08
>patch. I have stated those reasons. If there was anything in that
>patch than was a game killer - as I have done in the past - I would
>have released a Beta version of it. I saw no need and so I haven't.
>
>The multiplayer patch will provide its own plethora of bugs, game
>balancing issues, required tweaks etc etc - as such, I for one, am
>happy that things have quietened down; leaving me free to focus on
>those important development aspects, instead of babysitting a bunch of
>retards and trolls. BCM mp is like a whole new game....assuming you
>find a bunch of people who would rather play than cry about having
>their feelings hurt.
>
>ps; Blades, this is your board. Feel free to delete my post as you see
>fit; in the event that it is not in line with the board rules.
>
>President, 3000AD
>Designer/Lead Developer
>The Battlecruiser Series
Bill Huffman
No I'm pretty sure it wasn't Ed. IIRC, it was Xan.
> What do we have for guesses about the password?
> I'm going for 'Supreme'
Derek apparently changed his password but whoever it was that discovered it
still wasn't willing to play the guessing game. I remember being amused by the
thing and tested a few of my guesses something like battlecruiser, bc3k, bc3000,
bc3000ad, supreme, greatest, and genius but, at that point either I guessed
wrong or Derek had already changed his password.
Bill Huffman
...
> All I can say is that it's a good job people like Allan and I are so
> utterly full of our own self worth as to cast an ample glow for others
> less fortunate to bask in.
Amen to that!
Bill Huffman
"Dick Garage" <di...@garage.invalid> wrote in message
> On Sun, 19 May 2002 19:21:42 GMT, Dick Garage <di...@garage.invalid> wrote:
>
> >January of February IIRC.
>
> of = or
>
> doh!
Don't worry about it. Only Brad and Allan are perfect. They're so perfect that
they sometimes make typos themselves on purpose just so others won't be so
intimidated by their perfection. It just shows how thoughtful perfect people
have to be.
Lance Art
>FWIW, while I'm not going to respond to every post in this thread, all
Promises, promises.
>I have to say is that I agree with most of the perspectives that
>Blades, Menchise and a few others, have given. I don't care about the
>other comments enough to comment on them.
In other words, the those comments are too incisive and accurate.
>The post on my board related to this, was in order to - again - impose
>the premise that most seem to have forgotten: I don't give a toss how
>you feel about me, my methods or anything else you don't like. It
>really, truly, is that simple.
Yep, Derek certainly cares about is fan base. What's this I keep
reading from the BC Fanbois about Derek being an idie who really cares
about his fan base? And what's this that Derek likes to claim about
BCM being targeted to a niche market AKA his fan base?
>While I do have concerns about the fear based premise that Menchise
>mentions, there is nothing that I can do about it. Rules and regs are
>made for a reason. If you're certain that you are doing the right
>thing, you have nothing to fear. Its like doing 90 in a 55 zone. You
>know you're over the speed limit, so, if you get a ticket, it should
>come as no surprise. But if you are doing 55-60, you have nothing to
>be concerned about.
Such BS. Posting a bug will get you a response of "rubbish" and any
gainsaying of that response will get you banned. I think the analogy
is more like, you don't have to worry about doing 60 until you hit
Sheriff Derek's neck of the woods where you'll get yanked for 5 over
and he'll smash your tail lights as a bonus.
>So, the idea that one has to fear posting, in order to not be roasted,
>or worse, banned, is a nonsensical and laughable cop-out. I have
But the fear persists and is very palpable. It is in't a cop-out.
It's the reality of the police state that has been implemented by
Derek.
>always welcomed differing opinions. I have gone overboard at times and
>then recanted decisions based on feedback. I am not perfect and while
>I do make mistakes, I am twice removed from not acknowledging same.
How about acknowledging that you lied about the original release of
BC3K for starters. I won't bother naming them here. They are way too
numerous and already documeted on Bill's site.
>I run my board as I see fit. If you know the rules and wish to abide
>by them; post. If you're not sure, ask or, play it safe, don't
>frigging post!! You don't have to post. At all. My board is primarily
>for tech support, not a f*cking social gathering for discussion
>politics, same sex marriages, transvestites who love their priests or
Really? Tech support questions are treated with the utmost disdain
whilst the rest of the posts all end with "Good one, SC. *LOL*". I
guess it's time to kill all those off-topic butt-licking posts
praising your worthiness.
>such nonsense. Who the f*ck pays the goddamn bandwidth for that? If I
BC300AD does of course. All game comapnies pay for the bandwidth they
consume for the site that they run. If they can't generate enough
revenue to cover their operating costs, then they go bankrupt. You
are familiar with the term "bankrupt" I presume?
>removed the General Discussions forum, then you'd have a true tech
>support oriented forum. THATS WHAT IT IS!!!. The community aspects are
A true tech support fourm does not isnult the customer. It does not
dismiss problem reports as rubbish.
>fleet and n00b related; the former which is not widely popular due to
>the absence of mp - but who didn't know that more than a year or so
>ago?
Well, they all signed aboard with big wide eyes expecting that the
forum would be awash in fleet role-playing with the MP patch being
released "shortly". You know, the multi-player patch that should be
easy to do for anybody that knows what they're doing (paraphrasing
your words).
>If you have stopped having fun with the game, stopped caring about the
Did they ever really have fun with the game, or was it access to a
"real developer". As they find out that they don't really have access
and to a real developer, perhaps the "game" isn't so fun. It's odd
that the really good open-ended games hold fans for a long time.
>fan base, the site, the community etc - then, simply, well, leave. Why
>stay here and post needless diatribes about it? I know why. Because
>you can't do it on my board. Thing of it as being a bad actor. When
No they can't do it on your board, and you then try to reach out and
do it elsewhere too.
>Anyone who even remotely thinks that I'm going to address their
>incessant nitpicking, obviously doesn't know enough about me.
Addressing anything would be a big surprise.
>And if I really get pissed, I'll just switch to consoles and call it a
>day. Your loss. I'd still be making money and developing games. I
Earth to Derek. Earth to Derek. You got to be a lot tighter on your
console code. A patch of the week attitude doesn't cut it in that
environment.
>dunno who made this a goddamn personal investment. Games are supposed
>to be about having FUN. If you're not having fun, then, well, leave.
>You can have fun with a game without posting on my board. Thats why it
>is open for viewing and you don't have to post.
I agree, games are about having FUN. Why is the BC series un-FUN?
Open for viewing now. Do you have it scheduled to block viewing
anytime in the future like you've done in the past?
>The game is almost six months old (05/19/02) and why do people expect
>there to be a lot of traffic? I know why. It is because most if not
>all game related forums, are usually littered with nonsense, repetive
>garbage and trollish diatribes. Even when the games have long been
>released. As someone pointed out, BCM has matured and in fact,
>development into the next three products have been well under way for
>over five months now. What does anyone expect? Needless posting?
Really? BCM has matured? In six months? I guess that's what comes
through on the rose-tinted monitor when you're mindset is "Failure is
not an option". <insert punch line here>
>The multiplayer patch will provide its own plethora of bugs, game
>balancing issues, required tweaks etc etc - as such, I for one, am
>happy that things have quietened down; leaving me free to focus on
>those important development aspects, instead of babysitting a bunch of
>retards and trolls. BCM mp is like a whole new game....assuming you
>find a bunch of people who would rather play than cry about having
>their feelings hurt.
I though MP was done, and included in BCM but turned off. With all
the announcements of BC:XPn {for all n, where n is a non-zero positive
integer}, one would think MP was done.
Bet's on when MP shows up?
Bill Huffman
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>
> > I though MP was done, and included in BCM but turned off. With all
> > the announcements of BC:XPn {for all n, where n is a non-zero positive
> > integer}, one would think MP was done.
> > Bet's on when MP shows up?
>
I believe that here's the current hype (read state of lies regarding products).
The eXpansion Packs (XP) are out, Battlecruiser Generations (BCG) is the wave of
the future. Release 1.00.08 is last patch to be released any day. The next patch
will be MP very soon.
Bill Huffman
> Bet's on when MP shows up?
Derek says weeks. I translate that into never. Now he may release something that
allows multiple people to log onto a server but I don't think it will ever be a
MP game that won't have game killer bugs and game killer balance problems. First
insurmountable problem is the basic programming. MP is very tricky and Derek has
no experience with it. Second insumountable problem is game balancing. A game
has to be designed for MP from the beginning, contrary to Derek's claims,
Battlecruiser was not. Third insurmountable problem is that tricky bugs must be
fixed for a MP game to be playable. Derek calls reports of tricky bugs "RUBBISH"
and never fixes them. The fraud admits that he doesn't play his game so he won't
ever find problems! Any problems that he can't immediately reproduce are never
fixed. It's impossible for a sophisticated MP game to ever be produced in that
kind of environment.
fabio
And also going by the problems Derek had with beta testing BCM, why
would beta testing multiplayer be any better?
The other very major problem Derek will have is who is actually going
to play multiplayer, and who will host it? But I suppose BCM will only
need one server, with 32 player max as it has sold very poorly and
played even less!!!
Bill Huffman
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he-he You speak the truth.
Here's the official MP plan as stated by the Taco Supreme, only the BC3000ad
official server will be able to save games. This didn't bother me in the least
since I don't play the game. However, other people have stated that the game
isn't fun until you improve the AI of your crew above 75. This takes along time.
Now I don't understand why Derek doesn't just have the crew AI start off at 75.
But obviously his goal is something other than making the game fun. It takes
hours to get the crew AI up to that level.
Lance Art
<bhuf...@REMOVE-THISsan.rr.com> wrote:
>Now I don't understand why Derek doesn't just have the crew AI start off at 75.
>But obviously his goal is something other than making the game fun. It takes
>hours to get the crew AI up to that level.
There wouldn't be any "depth" to the gameplay if you didn't have to
teach your rocks how to orbit.
Lemming
>Hey, maybe we can cut your electricity bill.
Knowing you two, you'd probably charge for gas.
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Allan Parent
Allan
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Lemming
>Well, it would be a buyer's market since we seem to have an excess.
That's about how I see it.
Bill Huffman
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> Didn't he plan at one time to make a MMOG with his "franchise"?
Good point, that too is part of the hype. Almost a year ago, he even managed to
get his pure hype MMOG included in PC Gamer's look at future MMOG that are in
the queue. (Perhaps it was CGW instead of PCG?) His plans were hilarious! It
included stuff like charging by the month plus selling special bases and even
planets to the highest bidder. PCG made great fun of Derek but, Derek was so
overwhelmed by the ego rush he didn't have a clue.
aggies
http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=postmessage&boardid=1&id=0&
threadid=11939
BC3K Goes Online [7:22 PM EDT (Frans) April 05, 2000] - Viewing Comments
3000AD, the makers of the Battlecruiser space sim series, have announced
their plans for a massively multiplayer online version, dubbed GalCom Online
(preliminary site). The game will be based on the Battlecruiser Millennium
engine, and aims to bring a persistent Battlecruiser universe to
pay-for-play Internet servers. More information is available on this product
info page. They have also added several new Battlecruiser Millennium images
to this screenshots page.
AHAHAHAH click on the Galcom Online link. LOL Kevin you're such a godamn
fraud!!!
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aggies
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Bill Huffman
> ROFL here's the announcement from Blues News archives.
> http://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/board.pl?action=postmessage&boardid=1&id=0&
> threadid=11939
>
> BC3K Goes Online [7:22 PM EDT (Frans) April 05, 2000] - Viewing Comments
> 3000AD, the makers of the Battlecruiser space sim series, have announced
> their plans for a massively multiplayer online version, dubbed GalCom Online
> (preliminary site). The game will be based on the Battlecruiser Millennium
> engine, and aims to bring a persistent Battlecruiser universe to
> pay-for-play Internet servers. More information is available on this product
> info page. They have also added several new Battlecruiser Millennium images
> to this screenshots page.
>
> AHAHAHAH click on the Galcom Online link. LOL Kevin you're such a godamn
> fraud!!!
That's hilarious! Click on all the links, they're all bogus. The only one that
goes to Derek hype is the screen shoots and that is just screen shots of BCM. It
has been over two years since his MMOG vaporware announcement. This one little
fraud has produced more vaporware than Microsoft.
Xan
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> I particularly like the comment from one of the fans that Derek could make a
> killing doing online security consulting. Right...this is from a guy that
> can't even do MP in his game.
And claimed to use BlackICE Defender, of all products. Bwaha.
// Xan, Ph.D.
// I worship His Shadow.
Xan
> No I'm pretty sure it wasn't Ed. IIRC, it was Xan.
You're giving me too much credit here. =) It was AG who ran the GUESS(tm)
brute force algorithm on www.pobox.com to find Dorky's password.
Xan
> Here's the official MP plan as stated by the Taco Supreme, only the BC3000ad
> official server will be able to save games. This didn't bother me in the
least
> since I don't play the game. However, other people have stated that the game
> isn't fun until you improve the AI of your crew above 75. This takes along
time.
> Now I don't understand why Derek doesn't just have the crew AI start off at
75.
> But obviously his goal is something other than making the game fun. It takes
> hours to get the crew AI up to that level.
Gaycom has only one prerequisite: a **BONA FIDE** Ph.D. They know better than
to believe your rubbish that being listed in Dr. Bear's book, means the
organization in question is a mill. Pah! Anyone who has graduated from
kindergarten, is a fool and therefore not accepted. Its as simple as that,
dark prat
Lemming
>"Allan Parent" <all...@nospam.charter.net> wrote in message
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>> I particularly like the comment from one of the fans that Derek could make a
>> killing doing online security consulting. Right...this is from a guy that
>> can't even do MP in his game.
>
>And claimed to use BlackICE Defender, of all products. Bwaha.
Be fair, it could have been worse. He could have been using Lockdown
2000.
Xan
> Be fair, it could have been worse. He could have been using Lockdown
> 2000.
Bwahaha, I know. That's what you said before. Besides, he could have been
using MS Paint, right?
Lemming
>"Lemming" <l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Be fair, it could have been worse. He could have been using Lockdown
>> 2000.
>
>Bwahaha, I know. That's what you said before.
Are you saying I repeat myself?
>Besides, he could have been using MS Paint, right?
MS Paint is probably more effective.
MS Paint is probably more effective.
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Lemming
Our Ph.D is not in the base.
Xan
> Are you saying I repeat myself?
Ah, good. I see you're catching on. I'm proud of you, son.
> MS Paint is probably more effective.
What?
> MS Paint is probably more effective.
No need to repeat yourself! You're right though. Painting an ugly flame,
printing it, and taping it to the line would likely prove to be a phormidable
phirewall. I think I'll try it tonight.
> Our Ph.D is not in the base.
// Xan, Ph.D.
// Anyone else want some?
Lemming
>No need to repeat yourself! You're right though. Painting an ugly flame,
>printing it, and taping it to the line would likely prove to be a phormidable
>phirewall. I think I'll try it tonight.
It's be better than Lockdown 2000, anyway.
>> Our Ph.D is not in the base.
>
>// Xan, Ph.D.
>// Anyone else want some?
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Lemming
Somebody get our Ph.D back!
Xan
> It's be better than Lockdown 2000, anyway.
Watch those keystrokes, Lemming. More typos like that and I'll have to
reinstate my KillPhilter again. [If I only knew how the hell you breached it
in the first place and used it to backfire on me for an entire month...]
> Somebody get our Ph.D back!
// Xan, Ph.D.
// You die too easily.
Lemming
>"Lemming" <l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> It's be better than Lockdown 2000, anyway.
>
>Watch those keystrokes, Lemming.
Damn, you're right.
>More typos like that and I'll have to
>reinstate my KillPhilter again. [If I only knew how the hell you breached it
>in the first place and used it to backfire on me for an entire month...]
Phear my breach.
>// You die too easily.
It's be better than Lockdown 2000, anyway.
--
Lemming
The enemy Ph.D carrier is here.
Xan
> Damn, you're right.
Of course I'm right. I'm always right. I am Supreme Commander!!~!
> Phear my breach.
Frankly, it scares the hell out of me.
(shivers)
> It's be better than Lockdown 2000, anyway.
You lucky bastard. My new KillPhilter's not ready yet, but it should be this
weekend... or next week... or in the coming months. It's ready when it's
ready. You'll have to settle for the next best thing...
*BING*
> The enemy Ph.D carrier is here.
// Xan, Ph.D.
// Got it
Lemming
>"Lemming" <l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Damn, you're right.
>
>Of course I'm right. I'm always right. I am Supreme Commander!!~!
Yes, SF.
>> Phear my breach.
>
>Frankly, it scares the hell out of me.
>(shivers)
Don't get too excited - it's already spoken for.
>> It's be better than Lockdown 2000, anyway.
>
>You lucky bastard. My new KillPhilter's not ready yet, but it should be this
>weekend... or next week... or in the coming months.
Just wait. It's be better than Lockdown 2000, anyway.
>It's ready when it's
>ready. You'll have to settle for the next best thing...
Promises, promises.
>// Got it
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Lemming
I've got our Ph.D.
Chris Mc
>http://www.forum.orionfleet.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=217
>
>Starts of as an ass-kissing session then someone mentions what an ass Derek is
>and they all chime in! Heres the best post, someone whines that the community
>
Backstabbing? Coming to their senses, shurely?
Daniel Blakemore
> Backstabbing? Coming to their senses, shurely?
Shirley? Where?
;)
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Daniel Blakemore
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from
oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that
will reach to himself" - Tom Paine