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Nima Hazini

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Sep 15, 2001, 1:55:14 AM9/15/01
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The National Spiritual Assembly
of the Bahá'ís of the United States


September 11, 2001

To the American Bahá'í Community

Dear Bahá'í Friends,

Our hearts are shocked and grief-stricken by the shameless acts of terrorist
violence against innocent victims in New York, Pennsylvania, and Washington.
Fervently, we are praying for those who died and beseeching God to comfort
the hearts of those who have lost loved ones, and to strengthen our nation
and its people to meet this challenge with faith, courage, and unity.

As you know, the Bahá'í Scriptures proclaim that God has given the United
States a spiritual mission to help reshape the world. The Bahá'í Writings
state that America will evolve, through purifying tests and trials to become
a land of spiritual distinction and leadership, a champion of justice and
unity among all peoples and nations, and powerful servant of the Cause of
everlasting peace. The Bahá'í Writings promise that this "signally blest"
nation will never be defeated and will triumphantly fulfill its God-ordained
mission.

The Baha'i Faith has known crisis since its inception and many Baha'is,
especially in the cradle of the Faith, have faced brutal attacks with
faithfulness and noble resolve. Their model must be our standard. At this
moment of unprecedented disaster, we call on all of the followers of
Bahá'u'lláh in the United States to come to the aid of your nation in the
name of your Faith. The vision of Bahá'u'lláh's Healing Message and the Bahá
'í spirit of universal love and assistance are more urgently needed now than
ever before. As you proceed to serve and assist your neighbors and
communities, we ask you to bear in mind these words of assurance and
guidance from the Bahá'í Writings. "Let each one of God's loved ones center
his attention on this, to be the Lord's mercy to man; to be the Lord's
grace. Let him do some good to every person whose path he crosseth, and be
of some benefit to him. Let him improve the character of each and all, and
reorient the minds of men. In this way, the light of divine guidance will
shine forth, and the blessings of God will cradle all mankind: for love is
light no matter in what abode it dwelleth; and hate is darkness, no matter
where it may make its nest. O friends of God! That the hidden Mystery may
stand revealed, and the secret essence of all things may be disclosed,
strive ye to banish that darkness for ever and ever."

Our prayers and love are with you always,

NATIONAL SPIRITUAL ASSEMBLY OF
THE BAHÁ'ÍS OF THE UNITED STATES

Robert C. Henderson, Secretary-General


NightShadow

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Sep 15, 2001, 5:43:16 AM9/15/01
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There was someone named "Nima Hazini" <lotu...@wxc.com.au> who once
said...:

>The National Spiritual Assembly
>of the Bahá'ís of the United States

>SNIP<

Nima... thanks for posting this. I had not seen it yet and was
wondering when/if a statement would be made. Thanks again!

BIGS - Bahai in *Perfectly* Good Standing

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Sep 15, 2001, 9:19:34 AM9/15/01
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The latest victim is Deborah Buckhorn. Her story may be read at
New Mexico LAWSUIT against bahai institutions for FRAUD & LIBEL 3/2/2001
http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/bahai/NMLawsuit.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/bahai/NMLawsuitResponse.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/bahai/NMLawsuitAttorney.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/bahai/AmicusC.htm


The many other victims of bahai fundamentalists include Indiana University
Professors Linda and John Walbridge, editor Stephen Scholl, other editors of
Dialogue magazine, the Bahai Encyclopedia editors who resigned in protest,
David Langness, Professor Juan Cole of the History Department of the
University of Michigan, writer Michael McKenny, Nima Hazini, former
Assistant to the Auxiliary Board Paul Dodenhoff, Alison Marshall for writing
a critique of bahai publishing and censorship, and most recently Australian
Olympic champion Cathy Freeman....

David Horowitz's observations in his book Radical Son apply equally well to
bahai fundamentalism: "I, too, had to face the savage personal attacks by my
former comrades that were designed to warn others to remain within the
fold" (2).

I urge the perceptive reader seeking to understand the bahai faith to
consider the experience and views of the bahais and ex-bahais mentioned
above. Many of their testimonies may be found on my bahai webpage below.

Since bahai fundamentalists have always relied on their ability to operate
one way in one country and another elsewhere and the Internet now no
longer makes it possible, they have mounted a concerted campaign on
Usenet to discredit and malign diverse voices.

Their slandering me for "spamming" won't prevent perceptive people who
even glance at the record from realizing what's really going on in their
desperate attempt to prevent people in Israel, Iran, and elsewhere from
knowing what is actually taking place in bahai cirlces around the world.

--
Frederick Glaysher
The Bahai Faith & Religious Freedom of Conscience
http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/bahai/


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NightShadow

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Sep 15, 2001, 9:01:23 AM9/15/01
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There was someone named "BIGS - Bahai in *Perfectly* Good Standing"
<patric...@liberty.com> who once said...:

>The latest victim......

>SNIPPED derisive commentary<

I fail to see what your claptrap has to do with a praiseworthy letter
of support from the NSA to the Faith's believers. Care to elucidate-
play connect the dots for us here?

J.K.A. Singh-Rathore

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Sep 15, 2001, 7:16:21 PM9/15/01
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"Nima Hazini" <lotu...@wxc.com.au> wrote in message
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> The National Spiritual Assembly
> of the Bahá'ís of the United States
>
<SNIP>

> As you know, the Bahá'í Scriptures proclaim that God has given the United
> States a spiritual mission to help reshape the world. The Bahá'í Writings
> state that America will evolve, through purifying tests and trials to
become
> a land of spiritual distinction and leadership, a champion of justice and
> unity among all peoples and nations, and powerful servant of the Cause of
> everlasting peace. The Bahá'í Writings promise that this "signally blest"
> nation will never be defeated and will triumphantly fulfill its
God-ordained
> mission.
<SNIP>


I have read the above claims on various bandwidths on the internet.
However, my search for a supporting legitimate prophecy in the authentic
writings have so far yielded no results.


Robert Little

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Sep 16, 2001, 1:48:31 AM9/16/01
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Try Citadel of Faith, which is a compilation of messages to America, written
by Shoghi Effendi. The relevant one is entitled, interestingly enough,
America In Time of Peril. It was written in July, 1954, as I recall. In this
letter, he discusses the race riots which were still over the horizon, the
turning away from America of many of her former admirers, and the collapse
of her skyscrapers, at the hands of her "inveterate enemy." Pretty heady
stuff.

Although his letters do not have the same weight of authority as do the
revealed words of Baha'u'llah or His predecessor, the Bab, they can be
considered as authentic interpretations of those Words.

Robert A. Little

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Roger Reini

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Sep 16, 2001, 6:58:07 AM9/16/01
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:01:23 GMT, seal...@hotmail.com (NightShadow)
wrote:

IMHO, he won't because he can't. It has absolutely nothing to do with
the letter. It is the mark of someone who is acting as though he
hates the Light. May God have mercy on him if he truly does...

I can no longer bear to read what he writes, so I've put him in my
killfile again.

Roger (ro...@rreini.com)
http://www.rreini.com/

J.K.A. Singh-Rathore

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Sep 17, 2001, 11:19:03 AM9/17/01
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Yes. I am familiar with the text you have cited. However, I seem to have
some difficulties understanding the link between the text and the claims
maintained by the Baha'i friends in the USA. Could you please help me (and
probably others) by producing the text in question.

Thank you.

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Mr Clean

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Sep 17, 2001, 1:46:42 PM9/17/01
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:19:03 +0200, "J.K.A. Singh-Rathore"
<J.K.A.Sin...@skynet.be> wrote:

>
>Yes. I am familiar with the text you have cited. However, I seem to have
>some difficulties understanding the link between the text and the claims
>maintained by the Baha'i friends in the USA. Could you please help me (and
>probably others) by producing the text in question.
>
>Thank you.
>

I'm not sure what claims you question ... but here is some text on
topic none the less. :)


http://www.bahai.com/writings4/ShoghiEffendi/citadel/26-30.htm#CONTRIBUTION


Mr Clean

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Sep 17, 2001, 1:57:17 PM9/17/01
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This is also interesting ...

http://www.bahai.com/writings4/ShoghiEffendi/citadel/126-130.htm

I believe this was written July 23, 1954 ... not 100% sure.

*quote*

The American nation, of which the community of the Most Great Name
forms as yet a negligible and infinitesimal part, stands, indeed, from
whichever angle one observes its immediate fortunes, in grave peril.
The woes and tribulations which threaten it are partly avoidable, but
mostly inevitable and God-sent, for by reason of them a government and
people clinging tenaciously to the obsolescent doctrine of absolute
sovereignty and upholding a political system, manifestly at variance
with the needs of a world already contracted into a neighborhood and
crying out for unity, will find itself purged of its anachronistic
conceptions, and prepared to play a preponderating role, as foretold
by `Abdu'l-Bahá, in the hoisting of the standard of the Lesser Peace,
in the unification of mankind, and in the establishment of a world
federal government on this planet. These same fiery tribulations will
not only firmly weld the American nation to its sister nations in both
hemispheres, but will through their cleansing effect, purge it
thoroughly of the accumulated dross which ingrained racial prejudice,
rampant materialism, widespread ungodliness and moral laxity have
combined, in the course of successive generations, to produce, and
which have prevented her thus far from assuming the role of world
spiritual leadership forecast by `Abdu'l-Bahá's unerring pen--a role
which she is bound to fulfill through travail and sorrow.

*/quote*

J.K.A. Singh-Rathore

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Sep 17, 2001, 8:05:07 PM9/17/01
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"Mr Clean" <mrcle...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> This is also interesting ...
>
> http://www.bahai.com/writings4/ShoghiEffendi/citadel/126-130.htm
>
> I believe this was written July 23, 1954 ... not 100% sure.
>
> *quote*
>
> The American nation, of which the community of the Most Great Name
> forms as yet a negligible and infinitesimal part, stands, indeed, from
> whichever angle one observes its immediate fortunes, in grave peril.
<SNIP>


I have read all this before. But I am looking for the original references
either by Baha'U'llah, or Abdul Baha.


<SNIP>

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