Who's the Best QB in the AFC East?
GalaxyMerchandise.com
We all heard the opinions on "What team in the AFC East do your fans hate
the most?"
Seems the Dolphins were overwhelming picks by the majority of fans from all
other teams in the AFC East. (hmmm..wonder why?) I just love the fact that
they couldn't even sell out their last playoff game! Must have been the
weather!!
How about your pick for the BEST QB in the AFC East?
Drew? (3 time Pro Bowler, most yards in Patriot History)
Vinny? (A man who defies age and can still deliver the ball)
A man named Brady?...(yes, he took his team to SB glory..with a lotta help
from his friends including Drew in Pittsburgh..also possibly a 1 HIT Wonder)
or Fiedler? (mmmmerrrrr...BAHAHAHA...ohh, sorry 'bout that)
Who's The BEST???
Jeff
The preface to your question caused me to pause. How can I vote for
a. a 38 year old man
b. a one-hit wonder
c. a guy who lost his job to a one-hit wonder
d. fiedler
Don't get me wrong, I think the AFC East is the best division in
football, but they haven't achieve that status due to the quarterback
position. Why don't you ask us about running backs? THAT'S a better
topic for debate...
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WWPPD?
eÜphemism
> OK,
> We all heard the opinions on "What team in the AFC East do your fans hate
> the most?"
> Seems the Dolphins were overwhelming picks by the majority of fans from all
> other teams in the AFC East. (hmmm..wonder why?) I just love the fact that
> they couldn't even sell out their last playoff game! Must have been the
> weather!!
Sorry pal, but they did sell out the game. The problem with facts is they just
never seem to support the story that liars wish them to... bummer.
> How about your pick for the BEST QB in the AFC East?
> Drew? (3 time Pro Bowler, most yards in Patriot History)
> Vinny? (A man who defies age and can still deliver the ball)
> A man named Brady?...(yes, he took his team to SB glory..with a lotta help
> from his friends including Drew in Pittsburgh..also possibly a 1 HIT Wonder)
> or Fiedler? (mmmmerrrrr...BAHAHAHA...ohh, sorry 'bout that)
>
> Who's The BEST???
I am not sure who the 7% were that had voted for Fiedler as the best QB in the
AFC East. I guess they MUST have been Dolphin fans, but no one I know. They may
have just been some pre-schoolers who got a hold of daddy's computer.
You won't find many Dolphin fans touting Fiedler as the best QB of any
significant group. Still, they will admit that he's been very effective at times
- especially when he isn't tossing INT's. Most Dolphin fans are pretty objective
about these things. This may due to the fact that we know what a great QB looks
like and we don't see one anywhere in the AFC East right now.
Why do I think that Galaxy-girl is one bar-bet away from doing county time on an
indecency with animals rap?
Ü
eÜphemism
> Don't get me wrong, I think the AFC East is the best division in
> football, but they haven't achieve that status due to the quarterback
> position. Why don't you ask us about running backs? THAT'S a better
> topic for debate...
That's easy. Curtis Martin is the best based upon his past accomplishments. James
ain't around anymore and Antowain Smith has had one good year.
#1 CM
#2 RW
#3 AS
Ü
Jeff
>
> "GalaxyMerchandise.com" wrote:
>
> > OK,
> > We all heard the opinions on "What team in the AFC East do your fans hate
> > the most?"
> > Seems the Dolphins were overwhelming picks by the majority of fans from all
> > other teams in the AFC East. (hmmm..wonder why?) I just love the fact that
> > they couldn't even sell out their last playoff game! Must have been the
> > weather!!
>
> Sorry pal, but they did sell out the game. The problem with facts is they just
> never seem to support the story that liars wish them to... bummer.
>
avoid a black out." When you view it through that lens the fish fans
aren't lame at all...
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WWPPD?
GalaxyMerchandise.com
"eÜphemism" <euph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "GalaxyMerchandise.com" wrote:
>
> > OK,
> > We all heard the opinions on "What team in the AFC East do your fans
hate
> > the most?"
> > Seems the Dolphins were overwhelming picks by the majority of fans from
all
> > other teams in the AFC East. (hmmm..wonder why?) I just love the fact
that
> > they couldn't even sell out their last playoff game! Must have been the
> > weather!!
>
> Sorry pal, but they did sell out the game. The problem with facts is they
just
> never seem to support the story that liars wish them to... bummer.
Sorry "Bud", but attendance was 72,251..total Football Capacity: 74,916.
Those ARE the FACTS. And if I remember correctly, (was in South Fla. at the
time, it was blacked out..but again, not sure 'bout that one) A Playoff game
in Buffalo, NE or NY (Jersey if you want to be technicial) is standing room
only for a playoff game! Do your homework next time kiddo.
Ooooo..gosh, now that really hurt...indecency with animals eh? Sounds like
you have previous experience in these matters! Please let me know your
favorite farm friend!
> Ü
=P
http://www.galaxymerchandise.com/sports.htm
>
>
>
Robertjr
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The Philster
"Jeff" <je...@haha.com> wrote in message news:3CE9BC94...@haha.com...
> "GalaxyMerchandise.com" wrote:,
> > We all heard the opinions on "What team in the AFC East do your fans
hate
> > the most?"
> > Seems the Dolphins were overwhelming picks by the majority of fans from
all
> > other teams in the AFC East. (hmmm..wonder why?) I just love the fact
that
> > they couldn't even sell out their last playoff game! Must have been the
> > weather!!
> >
> > How about your pick for the BEST QB in the AFC East?
> > Drew? (3 time Pro Bowler, most yards in Patriot History)
> > Vinny? (A man who defies age and can still deliver the ball)
> > A man named Brady?...(yes, he took his team to SB glory..with a lotta
help
> > from his friends including Drew in Pittsburgh..also possibly a 1 HIT
Wonder)
> > or Fiedler? (mmmmerrrrr...BAHAHAHA...ohh, sorry 'bout that)
> >
> > Who's The BEST???
>
> The preface to your question caused me to pause. How can I vote for
> a. a 38 year old man
> b. a one-hit wonder
Glenn Greenstein
Glenn Greenstein
making it would be Brady.
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SuperPatsFan
"Glenn Greenstein" <glen.j...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I'd have to say on pure physical ability it would be Drew, and on decision
> making it would be Brady.
Personally I think Brady's decision making is overrated, which doesn't mean
it's not better than Bledsoe's.
I think he prefers the shorter passes, thus what appears to be a quick/smart
decision is basically a pre built preference before the play.
SPF
rt
Congratulations on your support of an ignorant posting with one even more
inane. You have talent, boy- don't give up!
rt
"Jeff" <je...@haha.com> wrote in message news:3CE9C3C9...@haha.com...
rt
> Those ARE the FACTS. And if I remember correctly, (was in South Fla. at
the
> time, it was blacked out..but again, not sure 'bout that one) A Playoff
game
> in Buffalo, NE or NY (Jersey if you want to be technicial) is standing
room
> only for a playoff game! Do your homework next time kiddo.
Sorry, GalaxyGirl, but you continue to revel in your ignorance, don't you.
The game was a sell out. Every sold out game always has no-shows. Get your
facts correct and your logic consistent before suggesting homework next
time.
I am starting to understand your strategy:
1. Start a weak-ass argument, based on your own made up "facts".
2. After ass is spanked and your stupidty revealed,, change subject is
pitiful attempt to save face.
Two points: GalaxyGirl, then I am out of here. The sell out against
Baltimore has been discussed ad naueseam last winter. Read, learn, then
post.
Secondly, answer me this- are you a season ticket holder? I certainly am.
If you aren't, then you are a hypocrite as well as an ignoramus. Quite a
dangerous combo. (and please, if you are a Jets fan living in the tristate
area, don't give me the whine about waiting lists for tickets. When working
in NJ, I NEVER had problems buying tix at reasonable rates). I bet I know
the answer to this question.
Finally, in the spirit of this thread, I vote for Damon Huard.
rt
rt
I was at the game, being a season ticket holder, and two buddys I brought
had to scalp as the tickets sold out at ticketmaster the previous night.
The only lines at the ticket booths were for "will call".
I hope you are just mired in a offseason malaise. ;)
rt
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rt
> football, but they haven't achieve that status due to the quarterback
> position. Why don't you ask us about running backs? THAT'S a better
> topic for debate...
>
You are kidding, right? Curtis wins hands down. It ain't even close. It
may be a question if Ricky gains a billion yards next year but that remains
to be seen.
rt
>
>
>
>
> --
> WWPPD?
>
slats
i saw ray lucas perform at the same level as tom brady in the same
exact scaled back attack under the same coordinator. as far as
decision making goes, ray had a significantly better td/int ratio than
the superbowl champ. his only problem was that he didn't get started
until later in the season than tom, and could only boast qb'ing the
most dangerous team not in the playoffs that year.
i agree with those who want to label the debate about best starting qb
in the afce as a bunch of BS. gee, who's closest to above-average?
someday i hope to see the jets' current backup play, but right now i'd
say that ray lucas might be the best qb in the division.š just to give
you an idea of what i think of the level of competition....
(š shhhh! don't tell wanny!)
-slats
*sit on a potato pan, otis.* :Ţ
Glenn Greenstein
Lauderdale relatives. I hope your friends made the scalper eat some of his
investment
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Glenn Greenstein
the one that plays for Weiss
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rt
By law, they have to stay off the stadium grounds, and they each have their
own areas of "turf". Disgusting creatures, for sure.
rt
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Sullman
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It's not bad being a one hit wonder when you've only had one turn at the bat
now is it?
Football God
eÜphemism
> You're right, he should have said, "they didn't sell out in time to
> avoid a black out." When you view it through that lens the fish fans
> aren't lame at all...
> --
> WWPPD?
It is a critical distinction for several reasons. If you're not too stupid to care,
here are the big hitters:
(1)
People who post shit like that are the same ones who attack others as "not getting
their facts right."
(2)
Jet's fans think they get bonus miles by insisting that their team sells out every
game. This is despite the fact that actual announced attendance for their games
falls an average of about 15, 000 ass-wipes short of capacity. Yes, technically they
DO sell out every game so, technically, the Dolphins sold out the game.
BTW... Don't let me catch you pettifogging about some minor factual mistake in some
other poster's messages... you wouldn't want to earn the "hypocrite" label.
Ü
eÜphemism
> Tickets were still being sold on game day. I doubt it was a total sell out
It was officially announced as a sell out. I'm sorry you doubt it.
Since you are not a Dolphin's fan, be sure that you would be quick to point out
that the Dolphin's haven't acquitted themselves really well in the playoffs. You
would toot that horn and then immediately chastise Dolphin fans for "not
supporting their team."
Ü
FlyingElvis
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Ray Lucas has the best record as a starter of any quarterback in the AFC
> East. If he were black, he'd get the recognition he deserves.
Better than the very white Damon Huard (5-1)?
eÜphemism
> > You won't find many Dolphin fans touting Fiedler as the best QB of any
> > significant group. Still, they will admit that he's been very effective at
> times
> > - especially when he isn't tossing INT's. Most Dolphin fans are pretty
> objective
> > about these things. This may due to the fact that we know what a great QB
> looks
> > like and we don't see one anywhere in the AFC East right now.
> >
> > Why do I think that Galaxy-girl is one bar-bet away from doing county time
> on an
> > indecency with animals rap?
>
> Ooooo..gosh, now that really hurt...indecency with animals eh? Sounds like
> you have previous experience in these matters! Please let me know your
> favorite farm friend!
Come back when you're completely dried out and I'll see if Jensen can help you
out.
Ü
eÜphemism
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Ray Lucas has the best record as a starter of any quarterback in the AFC
> East. If he were black, he'd get the recognition he deserves.
>
> SAR I
If he was black you'd probably post some kind of racial slur.
Ü
GalaxyMerchandise.com
The playoff Game vs Balt. was blacked out. I suggest you contact your local
CBS station in South Fla.
I will not condisend into a pissy little insult bout with you. Your little
barbs are an illustration of your class, (or lack there of) Fish fans like
you get so excited and upset, dont you? LOLnews:ZvrG8.3106$J%2.3...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
eÜphemism
> Oh Gosh Golly..listen to the Fishy Fans! Waaaahhhhhh!!
What do you think? I say maybe 7th grade, 8th at most...
> The playoff Game vs Balt. was blacked out. I suggest you contact your local
> CBS station in South Fla.
Son, you do KNOW about the black out deadline, don't you?
> I will not condisend into a pissy little insult bout with you. Your little
> barbs are an illustration of your class, (or lack there of) Fish fans like
> you get so excited and upset, dont you? LOL
If you wipe the spit off your monitor you'll see the embarrassing tantrum that
you just threw in that opening line. You need a time out. Go to bed.
Ü
eÜphemism
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Hey. My mom's a nigger.
>
> SAR I
You are such a talent.
Ü
GalaxyMerchandise.com
called "satire".
To again show how upsetty wetty itty bitty Fishy wishies like you (not ALL
fish Fans..just those of your stature) can be.
LOL
>
> Ü
>
>
rt
GalGirl, there is a guy named "Boob" in the Jets group you MUST go talk to!
Unlike you, he probably can't spell "satire", but like you, he probably has
no idea what it means.
Back to the crib, come back in a couple years and we will re-evaluate you.
rt "I can't speak for Euph, but I KNOW GalGirl ain't NEVER seen me excited
or upset"
rt
I just snorted my scotch!
rt
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>
> Hey. My mom's a nigger.
>
> SAR I
>
> "eÜphemism" <euph...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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eÜphemism
> The so called "embarrassing tantrum" in that "opening line" was something
> called "satire". To again show how upsetty wetty itty bitty Fishy wishies
> like you (not ALL
> fish Fans..just those of your stature) can be.
> LOL
It's appears that you're pretty new at this game... canning your own laugh
track (LOL) is really considered pretty lame and that baby talk stuff is
possibly even worse.
Right now we seem to be caught between the pompous and the asinine. This guy
Steve adopts his professorial bluenose tone and you... You chatter like a
stoned high school cheerleader.
Obviously it's true that they let anybody with twenty bucks on the internet.
I'm guessing that, in your case, the hooker demanded forty so you just settled
for a cyberstreet account.
Ü - Oh look petei... I think you're getting another zit
GalaxyMerchandise.com
satire is, perhaps she can assist.
>
> Back to the crib, come back in a couple years and we will re-evaluate you.
>
> rt "I can't speak for Euph, but I KNOW GalGirl ain't NEVER seen me excited
> or upset"
way as I've never seen?
Do you turn into the Incredible Mr. Limpet and rescue Jay Fiedler from Walt
Disney Studios because they want him to be a stand in for the next Dumbo
sequel?
Fishy Wishy was a Fish..in the playoffs Fishy Wishy went Squish Squish
Squish!
>
>
>
GalaxyMerchandise.com
> "GalaxyMerchandise.com" wrote:
>
> > The so called "embarrassing tantrum" in that "opening line" was
something
> > called "satire". To again show how upsetty wetty itty bitty Fishy
wishies
> > like you (not ALL
> > fish Fans..just those of your stature) can be.
> > LOL
>
> It's appears that you're pretty new at this game... canning your own laugh
> track (LOL) is really considered pretty lame and that baby talk stuff is
> possibly even worse.
Wishy's like you!
Gosh! LOL! opps..it slipped! I hate when that happens..that dreaded canned
laughter.
>
> Right now we seem to be caught between the pompous and the asinine. This
guy
> Steve adopts his professorial bluenose tone and you... You chatter like a
> stoned high school cheerleader.
enormous talent that is Jay Fiedler! Makes me want to CHEER "Miami
Dolphins..Miami Dolphins...Houston Oilers number #1
OPPS! Did I CHEER Houston Oilers? Wait..was that their CHEER that FISH FANS
ripped off from the old Oiler Fans? Nah..no matter, that team is gone..it
belongs to us Fishy Fans now!
> Obviously it's true that they let anybody with twenty bucks on the
internet.
> I'm guessing that, in your case, the hooker demanded forty so you just
settled
> for a cyberstreet account.
of the 90's.
It makes her get all wet and smell like Salmon! The cost of that is beyond
40 bucks, but I'm sure my ISP appreciates the plug in any case!
>
> Ü - Oh look petei... I think you're getting another zit
>
>
>
>
>
rt
> way as I've never seen?
> Do you turn into the Incredible Mr. Limpet and rescue Jay Fiedler from
Walt
> Disney Studios because they want him to be a stand in for the next Dumbo
> sequel?
> Fishy Wishy was a Fish..in the playoffs Fishy Wishy went Squish Squish
> Squish!
I love it... Dude has nothing of substance to add to the thread, gets
waxed, and now this.
GalaxyGirl, get back to your multi-level marketing plans- your web page,
errr referer/whatever, ain't gonna get you squat.
I do hear there is excellent profit potential in toliet paper.
rt
Rich R.
last name is Jensen.
GalaxyMerchandise.com
> > Oh? What is supposed to happen when you get "Excited" or "Upset" in such
a
> > way as I've never seen?
> > Do you turn into the Incredible Mr. Limpet and rescue Jay Fiedler from
> Walt
> > Disney Studios because they want him to be a stand in for the next Dumbo
> > sequel?
> > Fishy Wishy was a Fish..in the playoffs Fishy Wishy went Squish Squish
> > Squish!
>
> I love it... Dude has nothing of substance to add to the thread, gets
> waxed, and now this.
YOUR team got blacked out because YOU couldnt sell out a PLAYOFF game! How
Lame is that? This would NEVER happen in any of the other AFC East
Cities...only YOURS. LOL..opps..that canned laughter yet again.
Perhaps the majority of the FISH fans saw the futility in going yet another
Fish playoff Fiasco and chose to "WAX" their surf boards instead! (actually
can I see the prefered desire there!)
> GalaxyGirl, get back to your multi-level marketing plans- your web page,
> errr referer/whatever, ain't gonna get you squat.
>I do hear there is excellent profit potential in toliet paper.
Tune in...I'll offer those Next...their ultra absorbant!
> rt
Melquiades
>Who's The BEST???
1. Drew Bledsoe
2. Jay Fiedler
3. Tom brady (jury is still out)
4. Vinny Testaverde
Jeff
>
> Jeff wrote:
>
> > You're right, he should have said, "they didn't sell out in time to
> > avoid a black out." When you view it through that lens the fish fans
> > aren't lame at all...
> > --
> > WWPPD?
>
> It is a critical distinction for several reasons. If you're not too stupid to care,
> here are the big hitters:
If you want to pick straws, explain the correllation between stupitidy
and caring...
> (1)
> People who post shit like that are the same ones who attack others as "not getting
> their facts right."
This is a generalization based on your perception and I don't trust your
perception.
> (2)
> Jet's fans think they get bonus miles by insisting that their team sells out every
> game. This is despite the fact that actual announced attendance for their games
> falls an average of about 15, 000 ass-wipes short of capacity. Yes, technically they
> DO sell out every game so, technically, the Dolphins sold out the game.
I have NO idea what you're talking about.... What Jets fans? I go to
every game and I'd be surprised if there were many times since Kotite
where the Jets were 15,000 dolphin fans [asswipes, I had to spell out
the joke for the mentally impaired] shy of capacity. Conversely, I'd bet
the farm that you RARELY if EVER attend a dolphin game.
> BTW... Don't let me catch you pettifogging about some minor factual mistake in some
> other poster's messages... you wouldn't want to earn the "hypocrite" label.
As opposed to you basing whole arguements on your [flawed] perception?
You're one of the people who think the country's going to hell because
things aren't like you remember them in the 1950s....
--
WWPPD?
Jeff
I think the point, no matter how you want to spin it, is that Southern
Florida didn't watch the fish get stomped by the Ravens because dolphins
fans only bought tickets when it was announced that was the only way
they'd get to see the game. Frankly, I think Glenn is attacking this
from the wrong angle. Ravens fans were the lame ones, not fish fans. If
the fish were playing the Jets, I'd bet the island that the game would
have been sold out.
--
WWPPD?
Jeff
--
WWPPD?
slats
<euph...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> Oh Gosh Golly..listen to the Fishy Fans! Waaaahhhhhh!!
>
>What do you think? I say maybe 7th grade, 8th at most...
this is what i used to think. imagine my surprise when i found out you
were 48 years old.
>> The playoff Game vs Balt. was blacked out. I suggest you contact your local
>> CBS station in South Fla.
>
>Son, you do KNOW about the black out deadline, don't you?
this is obviously a rule that a fan of the fish might need to know
backwards and forwards, but is of little consequence to the fans of
other teams in the division.
-slats
*sit on a potato pan, otis.* :Ž
GalaxyMerchandise.com
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The real point here is that a Team that is hosting a PLAYOFF game should not
rely on the other teams fans to sell out THEIR playoff game! Sad indeed.
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WWPPD?
Jeff
I was relying on irony to make my point....
(and when I said "sold out" I meant in time for the black out. I don't
know how many tickets were sold at game time. That has no bearing on
this discussion. It does to Euphemism, but the point is hovering 50,000
ft over his head.)
--
WWPPD?
eÜphemism
> > It is a critical distinction for several reasons. If you're not too stupid to care,
> > here are the big hitters:
>
> If you want to pick straws, explain the correllation between stupitidy
> and caring...
You asked the question but you probably don't really want to consider the answer. The
proof of this was in your reply.
> > (1)
> > People who post shit like that are the same ones who attack others as "not getting
> > their facts right."
>
> This is a generalization based on your perception and I don't trust your
> perception.
Tough.
> > (2)
> > Jet's fans think they get bonus miles by insisting that their team sells out every
> > game. This is despite the fact that actual announced attendance for their games
> > falls an average of about 15, 000 ass-wipes short of capacity. Yes, technically they
> > DO sell out every game so, technically, the Dolphins sold out the game.
>
> I have NO idea what you're talking about.... What Jets fans? I go to
> every game and I'd be surprised if there were many times since Kotite
> where the Jets were 15,000 dolphin fans [asswipes, I had to spell out
> the joke for the mentally impaired] shy of capacity. Conversely, I'd bet
> the farm that you RARELY if EVER attend a dolphin game.
Since I live 1300 miles from the stadium, I do not often attend.
The stadium attendance figures are published and I posted them last year. You can find the
information if you care to - the bottom line is that there have been an average of 15,000
empty seats for Jets' "home games" for many years. When Parcells came to town, that figure
dropped. It crept back up under Groh. I'd bet the farm you won't bother to check because
you know I'm right.
> > BTW... Don't let me catch you pettifogging about some minor factual mistake in some
> > other poster's messages... you wouldn't want to earn the "hypocrite" label.
>
> As opposed to you basing whole arguements on your [flawed] perception?
> You're one of the people who think the country's going to hell because
> things aren't like you remember them in the 1950s....
>
> --
> WWPPD?
The '50s were cool, but I was only seven when they ended and I found the '60s to be even
better. Now where the hell did you come up with that bit of flawed "perception?"
Ü
rt
And believe me, I NEVER thought I would write that!
rt
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Hal Horn
>
>
> How about your pick for the BEST QB in the AFC East?
> Drew? (3 time Pro Bowler, most yards in Patriot History)
> Vinny? (A man who defies age and can still deliver the ball)
> A man named Brady?...(yes, he took his team to SB glory..with a lotta help
> from his friends including Drew in Pittsburgh..also possibly a 1 HIT
Wonder)
> or Fiedler? (mmmmerrrrr...BAHAHAHA...ohh, sorry 'bout that)
>
> Who's The BEST???
Hard to tell at this point. We have to see A) what Bledsoe will be like as
an everyday starter after all the injuries the
past two years; B) whether or not Brady was a one-year wonder; C) whether
Testeverde still has it at age 39 this
fall (he was inconsistent the past two years, regardless of your "can still
deliver the ball" statement).
Fiedler could be the best or the fourth-best.
HCH
rt
> YOUR team got blacked out because YOU couldnt sell out a PLAYOFF game! How
> Lame is that?
How lame is it that you STILL don't understand what you are trying to quack
about and STILL are spewing erroneous "facts".. Mondo lame, that's how
lame!
>This would NEVER happen in any of the other AFC East
> Cities...only YOURS. LOL..opps..that canned laughter yet again.
> Perhaps the majority of the FISH fans saw the futility in going yet
another
> Fish playoff Fiasco and chose to "WAX" their surf boards instead!
(actually
> can I see the prefered desire there!)
Yup, you got me there. Although I did not see an empty seat all day I am
certain you couldn't be making this up, now could you?
> > GalaxyGirl, get back to your multi-level marketing plans- your web page,
> > errr referer/whatever, ain't gonna get you squat.
> hmmm...if you say so! heh
> >I do hear there is excellent profit potential in toliet paper.
> Hmmmm...like a FISH PLAYOFF ticket!
> Tune in...I'll offer those Next...their ultra absorbant!
GalaxyGirl, fix that lameass webpage and get back to us. I wonder, do you
have a business license for that ridiculous portal? Do you remit local
source sales tax?? Wait- you gotta' make $ to pay taxes- sorry, I forgot.
I think you were making more sense when you were baby-talking. Plus- it was
really cute!
LOL
ROTFLMO
HAHAHA
jeez, how pathetic....
rt
rt
"slats" <sl...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Yup, especially the dipshits who make it up as they go!
rt
rt
"Jeff" <je...@haha.com> wrote in message news:3CEB15F8...@haha.com...
Jeff, make up your mind what your argument is. Assuming you have one.
There were no fucking tickets for sale on gameday, capice? You and the
other dumbass are the ones nitpicking this thing to death- Euph and I merely
tried to stop you from continuing to embarass yourselves by helping you
understand the facts. I guess it didn't work.
More facts for you:
The prior home playoff game (2000 season), a OT victory over Indy, was a
sellout, no blackout that time.
The prior home playoff game (1998 season- our 99 Wildcard victory was in
Seattle) against Buffalo was, yepper, a sell out, and also no blackout. As
were the multitude of other postseason games we have enjoyed in Florida.
It is not our fault you are bitter because your team generally does not play
past December. Get over it.
rt
The Philster
--
The Philsternews:qlFG8.755$AJ5.2...@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Speaking of talent, this is Marino's year!
>
> SAR I> news:3CEAE9E7...@mindspring.com...
Glenn Greenstein
seating at the meadowlands. That would be pretty noticeable and I have to
say that every game unless it was raining or a snow storm was pretty full.
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StuGotts
"The Philster" <theph...@thephilster.com> wrote in message
> This is Marino's year to get beaten. July 21st.
Don't count on it... I hear Phil Luckett may head-up the officiating crew.
<bfg>
Stu
Glenn Greenstein
> Glenn Greenstein wrote:
>
> > Tickets were still being sold on game day. I doubt it was a total sell
out
>
> It was officially announced as a sell out. I'm sorry you doubt it.
>
> Since you are not a Dolphin's fan, be sure that you would be quick to
point out
> that the Dolphin's haven't acquitted themselves really well in the
playoffs. You
> would toot that horn and then immediately chastise Dolphin fans for "not
> supporting their team."
>
>
The Philster
Terry McCauley away from UB that day. They're the ones who screwed up in
1998 in the Bills-Pats game.
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The Philster
"StuGotts" <ishkab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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eÜphemism
> Looks like someone is babbling
How so Glenn? The words were a concise reply to your completely un-original
grind on the Dolphins failing to sell out their playoff game against the
Ravens. There are a handful of "Old Standards" used by trolls like you in
attacking the Dolphins. One is the attendance whine. Another is the "Dolphins
lose early and big in the playoffs." See how I tied your hands together? So...
you dump and run because you haven't got an answer.
Do we have another contestant?
Ü
eÜphemism
> I go to a lot of games and 15000 seats is a little less than 25% of the
> seating at the meadowlands. That would be pretty noticeable and I have to
> say that every game unless it was raining or a snow storm was pretty full.
> I'd say what ever numbers your referring to are skewed or just plain wrong
I was hoping you or your associate idiots would say that...
Here are the official figures just as I posted them back in December.... This
came as a result of another Jets Troll (SAR) who was singing the same old song.
The FACT is that Jet's fans stay away in droves when their team is losing.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
You, and all your fellow Jets' trolls...
You have made much hay about Miami fans and the trouble they have selling out
for home games. You cite the waiting list and unavailability of tickets for Jets
games as proof of the fan support for the Jets. I contended that NY fans buy the
season tickets the way they buy parking space... just in case. The bigger issue
is attendance. The proof of fan "loyalty" to the Jets is in the actual
attendance figures - so tell me where I'm wrong
Giants Stadium - Capacity 80, 242 (641,936 seats for an 8
home game schedule)
Since 1984, here are the actual attendance figures for the
Jets.
Year - W/L Rec - Attendance
1984 - (7 - 9) - 514591 Empty Seats: 127345
1985 - (11 - 5) - 541832 Empty Seats: 100104
1986 - (10 - 6) - 542669 Empty Seats: 99267
1987 - (6 - 9) - 352895 Empty Seats: 289041
1988 - (8 - 7) - 483037 Empty Seats: 158899
1989 - (4 - 12) - 429465 Empty Seats: 212471
1990 - (6 - 10) - 482910 Empty Seats: 159026
1991 - (8 - 8) - 495562 Empty Seats: 146374
1992 - (4 - 12) - 465563 Empty Seats: 176373
1993 - (8 - 8) - 531702 Empty Seats: 110234
1994 - (6 - 10) - 527147 Empty Seats: 114789
1995 - (3 - 13) - 488079 Empty Seats: 153857
1996 - (1 - 15) - 395154 Empty Seats: 246782
1997 - (9 - 7) - 543181 Empty Seats: 98755
1998 - (12 - 4) - 589768 Empty Seats: 52168
1999 - (8 - 8) - 626258 Empty Seats: 15678
2000 - (9 - 7) - 623711 Empty Seats: 18225
Let's hear your er, uh, um, well explanation for these figures Scotty... Those
big drops correlate nicely with the final records, don't they?
Ü
GalaxyMerchandise.com
> > Gee...Did I "Get Waxed?" again...you Two Fishy's cant handle the fact
that
> > YOUR team got blacked out because YOU couldnt sell out a PLAYOFF game!
How
> > Lame is that?
>
> How lame is it that you STILL don't understand what you are trying to
quack
> about and STILL are spewing erroneous "facts".. Mondo lame, that's how
> lame!
>
> >This would NEVER happen in any of the other AFC East
> > Cities...only YOURS. LOL..opps..that canned laughter yet again.
> > Perhaps the majority of the FISH fans saw the futility in going yet
> another
> > Fish playoff Fiasco and chose to "WAX" their surf boards instead!
> (actually
> > can I see the prefered desire there!)
>
> Yup, you got me there. Although I did not see an empty seat all day I am
> certain you couldn't be making this up, now could you?
Hmmmmm..i see that the smell from last nights "Fish Fry" still permiates the
air.
The Fact of the matter, (one that you continue to dispute..further
illustrating your Frustrated Fish Fan mentality) is that YOUR Fishies were
BLACKED OUT due to the fact they could not sell enough tickets for a PLAYOFF
game. Golly..you just cant deal with the FACTS now can you?
> > > GalaxyGirl, get back to your multi-level marketing plans- your web
page,
> > > errr referer/whatever, ain't gonna get you squat.
> > hmmm...if you say so! heh
> > >I do hear there is excellent profit potential in toliet paper.
> > Hmmmm...like a FISH PLAYOFF ticket!
> > Tune in...I'll offer those Next...their ultra absorbant!
>
> GalaxyGirl, fix that lameass webpage and get back to us. I wonder, do you
> have a business license for that ridiculous portal? Do you remit local
> source sales tax?? Wait- you gotta' make $ to pay taxes- sorry, I forgot.
>
> I think you were making more sense when you were baby-talking. Plus- it
was
> really cute!
> LOL
> ROTFLMO
> HAHAHA
>
> jeez, how pathetic....
>
Gee Wizz Golly Gumdrops..howz that? Oh how Fishy Wishy Fans like you get
soooo upset!
I'm so glad you like my website! Visit often! We will soon offer Hankies
that Fish Fans like YOU
can cry into after your yearly playoff pounding! (notice that you are of a
minority..most Fish Fans got a clue..which is why you didn't SELL OUT..LOL)
Jimmy Johnson was the first to get a clue..this is why after he took part in
that 52-0 (or some ridiculous score..cant remember the total sum, but that
it was ENORMOUS) he bailed and is currently floating off the Keys, pretty
smart man I would say! All I can add is...Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins,
Houston Oilers #1..oh darn, that ripped off cheer slipped out yet again!
Golly Gosh!
>
>
>
>
>
GalaxyMerchandise.com
> Glenn Greenstein wrote:
>
> > I go to a lot of games and 15000 seats is a little less than 25% of the
> > seating at the meadowlands. That would be pretty noticeable and I have
to
> > say that every game unless it was raining or a snow storm was pretty
full.
> > I'd say what ever numbers your referring to are skewed or just plain
wrong
>
> I was hoping you or your associate idiots would say that...
>
> Here are the official figures just as I posted them back in December....
This
> came as a result of another Jets Troll (SAR) who was singing the same old
song.
> The FACT is that Jet's fans stay away in droves when their team is losing.
(then) defending SB Champions in time for it to be televised in South
Florida. This can be attributed to several possible scenarios..
1. Wanting to go to the local Hooters instead of seeing those tired routines
from the Fishettes
2. Too lazy to go out to the stadium to support their "team", preferring to
stay home to watch on the tube so the channel can be changed to the Playboy
Channel when the Fish start getting stomped
3. Most of them are out enjoying the beaches and acknowledge the futility
that is the FISH.
Jeff
sold-out. The fans are doing their job, we HAVE to buy tickets because
the waiting list is 15 years. As you said, there IS a correllation
between the team's performance on the field and the attendance in the
stands. In 1996, there were 246782 protest votes. (Personally, I
attended 12 games that year, but I'm insane.) But you'll also note that
when the team is good, there are butts in the seats. Again, the fans are
doing their job. Yet somehow, you want to compare a playoff game to the
Rich Kotite era. (That may be the first time in history that playoff and
Kotite were mentioned in the same sentence.)
The point: (as you missed it many times) WE THINK YOU ARE LAME FOR
FAILING TO SELL OUT A PLAYOFF GAME PRIOR TO THE BLACKOUT. If you want to
equate that to not showing up in the Kotite Era, knock yourself out. The
goal of the entire regular season is to make the playoffs. From a fan's
perspective, to GO to the playoffs. You did that. Then you stayed home.
Nobody bought tickets until the blackout was announced. THAT'S why we
think you're lame.
--
WWPPD?
rt
Perhaps your team may have a home playoff game by then.
rt
ps- your website sucks ass. back to Costco.
eÜphemism
> And the FACT is also that the FISH cannot sell out a game when hosting the
> (then) defending SB Champions in time for it to be televised in South
> Florida. This can be attributed to several possible scenarios..
> 1. Wanting to go to the local Hooters instead of seeing those tired routines
> from the Fishettes
> 2. Too lazy to go out to the stadium to support their "team", preferring to
> stay home to watch on the tube so the channel can be changed to the Playboy
> Channel when the Fish start getting stomped
> 3. Most of them are out enjoying the beaches and acknowledge the futility
> that is the FISH.
Uh... Glenn?
That post you referred to as babble? Well, the above is a precise rendition from
one of the dumber Jet fans. If you are mature individual, I invite you to read
what the idiot "GalaxyMerchandise" has written and then refer to the reply you
earlier dismissed as nonsense. You will see that I accurately predicted just
exactly what this moron just wrote.
If you're contrite, I will accept your apology.
Ü - and the average number of empty seats is 15,000 per game...
GalaxyMerchandise.com
requests an "apology".
What you should apologize for is STILL not acknowledging the fact YOUR teamy
weemy..the Fishy Wishys (I luv it) could NOT sell out in time to prevent a
PLAYOFF blackout..which was the advent of all your futile attempts, (through
name calling and insult) to deflect from the embarrassing truth. I have not
called you a derogatory name once. I don't have to..your diarrhea of the
mouth does it all. I'm simply having fun with your "excitable" little
ramblings...so do carry on!
GalaxyMerchandise.com
we will auction off Q-tips with Jay Fiedlers ear Wax on it! Yes Fish Fans!!
And rt, we will make sure you get first bids!
Miami Dolphins, Miami Dolphins, Houston Oilers #1...opps theres that ripped
off cheer again!news:apYG8.17035$J%2.33...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
eÜphemism
> I think you made our case nicely, thank you. All those games were
> sold-out. The fans are doing their job, we HAVE to buy tickets because
> the waiting list is 15 years. As you said, there IS a correllation
> between the team's performance on the field and the attendance in the
> stands. In 1996, there were 246782 protest votes. (Personally, I
> attended 12 games that year, but I'm insane.) But you'll also note that
> when the team is good, there are butts in the seats.
Actually, you must have missed 1985 when the Jets were 11-5 and 100,000 people failed
to show up. Still, I am glad to see you admit you are insane - evidently it's a common
problem among Jet's fans... their average winning percentage during the leaner years
cited (1984 - 1996) was just below 40%. The most obvious fact - which is completely
ignored by Jet's fans - is that according to your own experts all these empty seats
were evidently sold. This proves that the fans were more interested in owning the
seats than they were in actually attending the games. They did it year-after-year...
Why? Because that's what people in New York do... They will park their car in any open
space simply because it's there. I believe you know exactly what I am talking about.
> Again, the fans are
> doing their job. Yet somehow, you want to compare a playoff game to the
> Rich Kotite era. (That may be the first time in history that playoff and
> Kotite were mentioned in the same sentence.)
I am not the one doing the comparing Jeff. I freely admit that it shows a lack of
football interest in the So-Fla area when a playoff game is blacked out. Jet fans -
and it is always you guys who raise this issue - feel some sort of superiority is
given to their team when people buy seats and then don't sit in them to watch their
team lose. "BUT WE SELL OUT EVERY GAME!! I think it's hysterically funny. You guys
blithely ignore this fact and continue to rag on the attendance thing. Hence you get
what you give.
Suggestion: Stick to "Eight Straight." We don't have an answer for that.
> The point: (as you missed it many times) WE THINK YOU ARE LAME FOR
> FAILING TO SELL OUT A PLAYOFF GAME PRIOR TO THE BLACKOUT. If you want to
> equate that to not showing up in the Kotite Era, knock yourself out. The
> goal of the entire regular season is to make the playoffs. From a fan's
> perspective, to GO to the playoffs. You did that. Then you stayed home.
> Nobody bought tickets until the blackout was announced. THAT'S why we
> think you're lame.
And I think your lame for thinking that I'm lame. I live 1300 miles from the stadium.
No, I did not buy a ticket for the game. I watched it on TV... Mores the pity.
I'll leave the numbers below so you can see that rare 1985 (11-5) season.
One final note: Playoff tickets are not part of the season ticket package. They don't
influence whether you can renew your season tickets the following year. The Jets have
so little actual history with home playoff games that it's hardly within a Jet's fans
experience to speak about such things. The Jets are one of the all-time worst
franchises - rivaling the Bengal's record of failure. The thing you hate about the
Dolphins is that they are not the Jets.
Ü
eÜphemism
> Awww..The Fishy Wishy fan continues to hurl insults and little barbs..then
> requests an "apology".
> What you should apologize for is STILL not acknowledging the fact YOUR teamy
> weemy..the Fishy Wishys (I luv it) could NOT sell out in time to prevent a
> PLAYOFF blackout..which was the advent of all your futile attempts, (through
> name calling and insult) to deflect from the embarrassing truth. I have not
> called you a derogatory name once. I don't have to..your diarrhea of the
> mouth does it all. I'm simply having fun with your "excitable" little
> ramblings...so do carry on!
Do you wear a little sock puppet on your hand while you sit at the keyboard?
Ü
Jeff
>
> Jeff wrote:
>
> > I think you made our case nicely, thank you. All those games were
> > sold-out. The fans are doing their job, we HAVE to buy tickets because
> > the waiting list is 15 years. As you said, there IS a correllation
> > between the team's performance on the field and the attendance in the
> > stands. In 1996, there were 246782 protest votes. (Personally, I
> > attended 12 games that year, but I'm insane.) But you'll also note that
> > when the team is good, there are butts in the seats.
>
> Actually, you must have missed 1985 when the Jets were 11-5 and 100,000 people failed
> to show up. Still, I am glad to see you admit you are insane - evidently it's a common
> problem among Jet's fans... their average winning percentage during the leaner years
> cited (1984 - 1996) was just below 40%. The most obvious fact - which is completely
> ignored by Jet's fans - is that according to your own experts all these empty seats
> were evidently sold. This proves that the fans were more interested in owning the
> seats than they were in actually attending the games. They did it year-after-year...
> Why? Because that's what people in New York do... They will park their car in any open
> space simply because it's there. I believe you know exactly what I am talking about.
I supposed I'll forgive you your ignorance of New York City and Jets
history. As the crow flies, Giants stadium is not that far from Shea,
but it's worlds away. The shift in fan base took a little longer than
for Leon Hess to sign a new lease. Attendance suffered for a few years
after their Long Island departure. I'm not complaining. I'm a
beneficiary of the move. I was able to get tickets as the fan base
shifted and many Queens denizens decided to ditch their tickets. So I
didn't over look 1985. It didn't occur to me to blame Jet fans for their
disgust with off field circumstances. It was warranted.
> Suggestion: Stick to "Eight Straight." We don't have an answer for that.
I don't care about 8-straight anymore. My LONG STANDING hatred for
Oakland has resurfaced in recent years. (Four straight games in Oakland?
Who schedules this stuff?) Anyway, the streak has greatly diluted my
hatred for Miami. And its kind of like beating a dead mule.
> > The point: (as you missed it many times) WE THINK YOU ARE LAME FOR
> > FAILING TO SELL OUT A PLAYOFF GAME PRIOR TO THE BLACKOUT. If you want to
> > equate that to not showing up in the Kotite Era, knock yourself out. The
> > goal of the entire regular season is to make the playoffs. From a fan's
> > perspective, to GO to the playoffs. You did that. Then you stayed home.
> > Nobody bought tickets until the blackout was announced. THAT'S why we
> > think you're lame.
>
> And I think your lame for thinking that I'm lame. I live 1300 miles from the stadium.
> No, I did not buy a ticket for the game. I watched it on TV... Mores the pity.
You couldn't find a team closer to your house? Maybe you just think you
look good in those dolphin colors...
--
WWPPD?
GalaxyMerchandise.com
talented QB for the Miami Fishies, He Fights for Truth, Justice, and The
Fishies Playoff Losing Way!
Stv-Doe
"Jeff" <je...@haha.com> wrote in message news:3CEC357F...@haha.com...
Terry Gowan
> The Jets are one of the all-time worst
> franchises - rivaling the Bengal's record of failure.
Actually, Euph, to go along with their many off season championships, the
Jets win hands down in the "who sucks worse, NYJ or the Bungles?" contest.
Since the merger in 1970, the Jets have won 210 regular season games. The
lowly Bungles won 217. Here's how the Jets stack up against the rest of the
East:
1. Miami--315 wins.
2. Buffalo--234 wins.
3. New England--228 wins.
4. New York Jets--210 wins.
All those losses for the Jets means consistently higher draft selections,
hence the off season championships.
Terry Gowan
Jeff
1. Miami -- 2 wins
2. Pity Pats - 1 win
2. [tie] Jets - 1 win
4. Buff Boys - 0 wins
and BTW: Bungles - 0 wins
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Glenn Greenstein
things like an over rated Jason Taylor or the laughable fact that you re
signed Big Ears to a new contract but I'll settle for the two you brought upnews:3CEC1B10...@mindspring.com...
rt
"Stv-Doe" <Stv...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:oJZG8.45965$6c7.11...@typhoon.nyc.rr.com...
Steve, get a grip. Then again, when you saw Oliver Stone's "JFK" did you
say- "Wow, well put, Oliver, and highly accurate as well".
Headache says "Nobody bought tickets until the blackout was announced". The
Stadium seats approximately 75,000 and there were 6,000 tickets on sale
Thursday eve., at the blackout announcement. This is the third or so
iteration of whatever the hell he is trying to say.
Don't you guys care the least bit about accuracy?
I agree with Euph- stick with the "eight straight"... We can't deny that,
plus, the streak will be over soon and will be, just like a Jets playoff
win, a distant memory. These other arguments just reek of "porpoise
envy"...
Please post pics of girlfriend.
rt
Roger Christie
> Jeff wrote:
>
> > Don't get me wrong, I think the AFC East is the best division in
> > football, but they haven't achieve that status due to the quarterback
> > position. Why don't you ask us about running backs? THAT'S a better
> > topic for debate...
>
> That's easy. Curtis Martin is the best based upon his past accomplishments. James
> ain't around anymore and Antowain Smith has had one good year.
>
> #1 CM
> #2 RW
> #3 AS
>
> Ü
Correction: ANtowain has had two good years. He rushed for over 1000 yds
his first year with the Bills.
Glenn Greenstein
yard average is pretty weak IMO
"Roger Christie" <c...@mux.net> wrote in message
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Bobby Galvez
> The 1000 yard benchmark really should be something like 1200 now. a 62.5
> yard average is pretty weak IMO
Wow.
Something Glenn wrote that I can agree with.
Yes, that 1,000 yard benchmark started with the long-gone 12 game seasons. At
that time it was 83.3 yards per game. Carried over to the 14 game season it
becomes 71.4 yards, or 1142 yards over a 16 game season. The old 83.3 average
would yield 1332 yards in a season. That's stout.
With longer seasons causing more wear and tear on players, and with defensive
players having become faster and stronger I guess the 1140 yard season becomes
a fair standard.
Cheers!!!
BobbyG
Stv-Doe
"Glenn Greenstein" <glen.j...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:pX6H8.173$UT.1...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> The 1000 yard benchmark really should be something like 1200 now. a 62.5
> yard average is pretty weak IMO
Well, I don't think I'd call the 1,000 yard benchmark weak, but it's
certainly not what it was in a 14 game season.
Last year 15 RBs had 1,000+ yards. In '00 a whopping 23 had 1,000 or more.
(Ricky Williams was 23rd with 1,000 even!) In '99, it was 14, in '98 20,
and in '97 15 again.
That's an average of 17.4 over the last 5 years. More than half of the
league's starters.
Nonetheless, most teams are content I think, to have a RB that can amass
1,000 yards.
While it's nice to have a top tier RB that can win a game in his own (so to
speak), what you really need is a RB good enough to keep the defense honest.
As long as he can keep the D from cheating their LBs farther back into
coverage, and get enough positive yardage to minimize your 3rd and longs,
your RB is doing what's mandatory, if not what's spectacular.
Steve
Heynony
> Well, I don't think I'd call the 1,000 yard benchmark weak, but it's
> certainly not what it was in a 14 game season.
Certainly not compared to, say, Jim Brown's 5000 yards in his first 4
seasons, when they played only 12 games!
Stv-Doe
"Bobby Galvez" <cnel...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3CED0C72...@austin.rr.com...
Well, if we make 1,120 the benchmark, you've got an average of 13 qualifying
RBs a season from '01 back to '97 (12, 19, 11, 14, and 9 respectively).
A difference of 4.4 RBs a year from the 1,000 benchmark.
Yeah, that'll do it.
Steve
BTW, Curtis is 7 for 7 at the 1,120 benchmark. That's what is truly
impressive about him, not just his single season totals, but year after year
of consistent acheivement.
Additional BTW: Curtis currently ranks 17th ALL TIME in rushing yards.
Should he have a 1,006 yard season, he moves up to 15th passing Earl
Campbell and Otis Anderson. Marshall Faulk (who's played one more season
than Curtis) is currently 175 yards ahead of Curtis, and the yet unsigned
Watters (three more years than Curtis) is 1,376 ahead.
Terry Gowan
>I count 'em this way:
>1. Miami -- 2 wins
>2. Pity Pats - 1 win
>2. [tie] Jets - 1 win
>4. Buff Boys - 0 wins
>and BTW: Bungles - 0 wins
I can see where a Jets fan would try to get as much credit as possible for
the lone SB trip/victory. However, since the quest is to get to the show,
we could amend your version to look like this:
1.Miami--5 SB appearances.
2.Buffalo--4 SB appearances.
3.New England--3 SB appearances.
4.Cincinnati--2 SB appearances.
5.New York Jets--1 SB appearance.
This correlates with total regular season performance PERFECTLY.
1.Miami-315 wins.
2.Buffalo-234 wins.
3.New England-228 wins.
4.Cincinnati-217 wins.
5.NYJ-210 wins.
Realize, too, that the win totals are since the merger in 1970. Since the
Jets' lone SB appearance came the year before, I'm giving you credit for it
out of the goodness of my heart. Since the merger the New York Jets
football franchise has been a non-factor.
You lose, Mr. Bond.
Terry Gowan
The Philster
Actually, that was 1998, his second year with the Bills.
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The Philster
Jeff
agree with Glenn, somewhere between 1200 and 1300 yards a back becomes
special. For example, Ardian Murrell: 1000 yd rusher. Curtis Martin:
1500.
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WWPPD?
Jeff
This is a new level in low, even for a fish fan. Do you want to pick any
other arbitrary year? How about 1975?
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WWPPD?
eÜphemism
> No but it's nice to know you realize your short comings. We could talk about
> things like an over rated Jason Taylor or the laughable fact that you re
> signed Big Ears to a new contract but I'll settle for the two you brought up
When all else fails, try changing the subject?
Ü
eÜphemism
> The point: (as you missed it many times) WE THINK YOU ARE LAME FOR
> FAILING TO SELL OUT A PLAYOFF GAME PRIOR TO THE BLACKOUT. If you want to
> equate that to not showing up in the Kotite Era, knock yourself out. The
> goal of the entire regular season is to make the playoffs. From a fan's
> perspective, to GO to the playoffs. You did that. Then you stayed home.
> Nobody bought tickets until the blackout was announced. THAT'S why we
> think you're lame.
First: What happened to your Mr. French affectation?
Second: What about that 11-5 season (1985) with 100,000 no-shows?
Third: How many home playoff games have the Jets sold-out... ever?
Ultimately, when Jet's fans lose this sorry, old argument, they suddenly
decide that "This has nothing to do with football."
Ü
eÜphemism
Correction: Antowain was a bust with the Bills - his numbers went south and so did he. You have to
consider what is relevant...
Ü
Jeff
>
> Stv-Doe wrote:
>
> > The point: (as you missed it many times) WE THINK YOU ARE LAME FOR
> > FAILING TO SELL OUT A PLAYOFF GAME PRIOR TO THE BLACKOUT. If you want to
> > equate that to not showing up in the Kotite Era, knock yourself out. The
> > goal of the entire regular season is to make the playoffs. From a fan's
> > perspective, to GO to the playoffs. You did that. Then you stayed home.
> > Nobody bought tickets until the blackout was announced. THAT'S why we
> > think you're lame.
>
> First: What happened to your Mr. French affectation?
I'm not a fan the Gaul. I don't know what you're talking about. Then
again, neither do you.
>
> Second: What about that 11-5 season (1985) with 100,000 no-shows?
Now you're just a dick. I explained this to you, but you can't see
through those pastelle orange and turquoise lenses. It's no wonder that
ever conversation with you ends in "nyah, nyah, n-nyah nah."
> Third: How many home playoff games have the Jets sold-out... ever?
All of them.
> Ultimately, when Jet's fans lose this sorry, old argument, they suddenly
> decide that "This has nothing to do with football."
You couldn't follow a thread if I tied it to your face. See above for my
summation. (You'll note that I NEVER said it had anything to do with
football.)
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The Philster
Actually, Antowain had two problems in Buffalo......Joe Pendry and Bishop
Harris. Pendry because of that stupid running back-by-committee and Harris
because he was having Antowain lower his head when he got the ball as to
present a smaller target.
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The Philster
Terry Gowan
> This is a new level in low, even for a fish fan. Do you want to pick any
> other arbitrary year? How about 1975?
1970 is not arbitrary. It's the year that the two leagues merged, which
means they played inter-conference games from 1970-on. Nice dodge, though.
By claiming me to have sunk to a new low certainly deflects attention from
the fact that you don't really have anything to say about it. It's probably
for the best.
Terry Gowan
Jeff
The criteria I chose was Super Bowl victories. I claim this is the best
measure of franchise success as it's the goal of every franchise every
year. You can argue that Super Bowl victories are irrelevent and
franchise success should be based another measure of success. But you
can't quantify Super Bowl victories and start with number four.
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eÜphemism
> > And I think your lame for thinking that I'm lame. I live 1300 miles from the stadium.
> > No, I did not buy a ticket for the game. I watched it on TV... Mores the pity.
>
> You couldn't find a team closer to your house? Maybe you just think you
> look good in those dolphin colors...
>
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> WWPPD?
I was a Dolphin fan before I moved to Florida a Dolphin fan while I lived in Florida and I
remain a Dolphin fan now that I live in Texas. Forgive me if I don't root for the Cowboys? I
am considering following the Texans. We'll see if they can win me over.
Ü
eÜphemism
He is reborn (so far) in N.E.. I have no opinion as to how things will play out
for him. Yes, I am sure that he could be better than what was shown in Buffalo,
just as we hope that Ricky flourishes in Miami. Antowain is off to a good start.
Ü
eÜphemism
> > First: What happened to your Mr. French affectation?
>
> I'm not a fan the Gaul. I don't know what you're talking about. Then
> again, neither do you.
Evidently you don't... I wasn't talking to you Jeff. (See below)
> Second: What about that 11-5 season (1985) with 100,000 no-shows?
>
> Now you're just a dick. I explained this to you, but you can't see
> through those pastelle orange and turquoise lenses. It's no wonder that
> ever conversation with you ends in "nyah, nyah, n-nyah nah."
Not in this thread, if ever.
> > Third: How many home playoff games have the Jets sold-out... ever?
>
> All of them.
Both? All three? What's the number?
> > Ultimately, when Jet's fans lose this sorry, old argument, they suddenly
> > decide that "This has nothing to do with football."
>
> You couldn't follow a thread if I tied it to your face. See above for my
> summation. (You'll note that I NEVER said it had anything to do with
> football.)
You must be baiting me here... You responded to comments not made to you. That
is YOUR problem.
Ü
The Philster
While I hate that it's with another team, I'm glad that Antowain is doing
well and I hope it continues.....except twice a year of course.
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The Philster
Jeff
>
> Jeff wrote:
>
> > > First: What happened to your Mr. French affectation?
> >
> > I'm not a fan the Gaul. I don't know what you're talking about. Then
> > again, neither do you.
>
> Evidently you don't... I wasn't talking to you Jeff. (See below)
In the previous message you snipped everything but MY quote. So who are
you addressing--Carl Dinkelacker?
In the message in question, the ONLY thing you didn't snip was this:
> > The point: (as you missed it many times) WE THINK YOU ARE LAME FOR
> > FAILING TO SELL OUT A PLAYOFF GAME PRIOR TO THE BLACKOUT. If you want to
> > equate that to not showing up in the Kotite Era, knock yourself out. The
> > goal of the entire regular season is to make the playoffs. From a fan's
> > perspective, to GO to the playoffs. You did that. Then you stayed home.
> > Nobody bought tickets until the blackout was announced. THAT'S why we
> > think you're lame.
Which--get this--was MY quote.
>
> > Second: What about that 11-5 season (1985) with 100,000 no-shows?
> >
> > Now you're just a dick. I explained this to you, but you can't see
> > through those pastelle orange and turquoise lenses. It's no wonder that
> > ever conversation with you ends in "nyah, nyah, n-nyah nah."
>
> Not in this thread, if ever.
Yes I DID. From the thread "Re: Who's the Best QB in the AFC East?"
Quoth myself:
"I supposed I'll forgive you your ignorance of New York City and Jets
history. As the crow flies, Giants stadium is not that far from Shea,
but it's worlds away. The shift in fan base took a little longer than
for Leon Hess to sign a new lease. Attendance suffered for a few years
after their Long Island departure. I'm not complaining. I'm a
beneficiary of the move. I was able to get tickets as the fan base
shifted and many Queens denizens decided to ditch their tickets. So I
didn't over look 1985. It didn't occur to me to blame Jet fans for their
disgust with off field circumstances. It was warranted."
You're REALLY sucking now.
>
> You must be baiting me here... You responded to comments not made to you. That
> is YOUR problem.
I think you drink too much. You responded DIRECTLY to my quote, the
ONLY remnant of the thread that you left in tact and now your calling me
for baiting?
I appologise to Terry Gowan. YOU have set the bar for low behavior in
fishdom.
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WWPPD?
rt
to say "when"...
It is only getting worse for you. Seriously.
Wake with a fresh mind, read objectively, and learn something from this
massacre. Or, be like Boob. It is your call...
rt
"Jeff" <je...@haha.com> wrote in message news:3CEDA865...@haha.com...
Terry Gowan
> The criteria I chose was Super Bowl victories. I claim this is the best
> measure of franchise success as it's the goal of every franchise every
> year.
Don't tell me you're one of those guys who figures that each year there is
one SB winner, and 31 also-rans. I've heard this argument enough from Jets
fans who insist that a certain NY team that goes 1-15 is equivalent to a
certain S. Fla. team who wins the division at 12-4, but loses in the
playoffs. Please tell me you're not one of those guys.
>You can argue that Super Bowl victories are irrelevent and
> franchise success should be based another measure of success.
I believe that SB victories is relevant, but it's not the only criteria.
You certainly have to give more points to a team who makes the SB and loses
than to a team who doesn't even make the post season.
SB wins, SB appearances and overall regular and post season wins are all
important in determining whether a team is better than another over the
course of time. Here's a link to a website that does this to determine the
most successful teams since the merger:
www.tarik.com.au/nflteams/alltimerankings.shtml
Not surprising that Dallas and San Fran are #1 and #2, given their success
just before the salary cap. Guess who #3 is.
Terry Gowan
Terry Gowan
>In the previous message you snipped everything but MY quote. So who are
>you addressing--Carl Dinkelacker?
>In the message in question, the ONLY thing you didn't snip was this:
> > The point: (as you missed it many times) WE THINK YOU ARE LAME FOR
> > FAILING TO SELL OUT A PLAYOFF GAME PRIOR TO THE BLACKOUT. If you want to
> > equate that to not showing up in the Kotite Era, knock yourself out. The
> > goal of the entire regular season is to make the playoffs. From a fan's
> > perspective, to GO to the playoffs. You did that. Then you stayed home.
> > Nobody bought tickets until the blackout was announced. THAT'S why we
> > think you're lame.
>Which--get this--was MY quote.
There is one other thing that Euph didn't snip prior to responding. Here it
is.
eÜphemism wrote:
>
> Stv-Doe wrote:
He was clearly responding to Steve. Steve said he agreed wholeheartedly
with what you had written, so it made sense for Euph to base his rebuttal
off what you had written. To use your phrase..............
"You're REALLY sucking now."
Terry Gowan----finds Jeff's behavior to be aggressively stupid. I just hope
he's having a bad day rather than displaying his best.