FREE Transgendered Resources
d...@urnotalone.com
to the Transgendered Community for many years now.
We are currently expanind our services to include listings of other
useful resources on the internet as well, including sites, alternative
lifestyle medicine, etc.
If you have any recommendations, could you forward them to
ad...@urnotalone.com
Thanks!
Dan
URNotAlone.com
http://www.urnotalone.com
Diane
>As many of you know, URNotAlone.com has provided FREE online resources
>to the Transgendered Community for many years now.
Yet ANOTHER adult porn site masquerading as "support" and trying to
make another buck off the TG community.
d...@urnotalone.com
You obviously have NEVER heard of us before. We've been around since
1995, and all of our services ARE free. The only thing we charge for
is access to adult content, and if you look carefully, we undercharge.
You really should wander over and look around. If after taking a look
you still think we are only porn, then you are welcome to your own
opinion, but most sites support themselves this way now (including
gay.com).
If we were just another porn site, we wouldn't have the membership we
have and we would DEFINATELY be making a LOT more money. Giving stuff
away isn't how you run a porn site.
Diane Arons
>You obviously have NEVER heard of us before.
I've seen your kind *hundreds* of times before.
The only "support" your site offers is the ability to "chat" or view
pics of other transgendered men - for a hefty fee of course.
Call a spade a spade and just outright say that you are attempting to
make a buck from your fellow fetishists...maybe they'll think it's a
good deal - not my call.
But calling your site a "support" site is an outright lie.
We're not stupid.
Sandra Worley
> I've seen your kind *hundreds* of times before.
Unfortunately they are everywhere..
> The only "support" your site offers is the ability to "chat" or view
> pics of other transgendered men - for a hefty fee of course.
I saw what they charge for "G-rated" pic posting adn FREE adult photo
hosting then those who want to see the "G-rated" pix don't have to play, bu
those who want to see the "adult" stuff has to pay.. Nice..
> Call a spade a spade and just outright say that you are attempting to
> make a buck from your fellow fetishists...maybe they'll think it's a
> good deal - not my call.
I have thought of just setting up a truely free resource site, but don't
have the time to invest right now.. Free membership, Free messageboards,
etc..
> But calling your site a "support" site is an outright lie.
That is about the most truthful statement I have seen here in awhile.
d...@urnotalone.com
and that's all that you care about.
> >You obviously have NEVER heard of us before.
>
> I've seen your kind *hundreds* of times before.
Really? Coul you sent me the URLs? I defy you to name ONE single site
with HALF of our FREE features
> The only "support" your site offers is the ability to "chat" or view
> pics of other transgendered men - for a hefty fee of course.
right $5.95 is a HEFTY fee indeed. Oh wait, you ae referring to access
our original content. I guess we should give that way for free.
> Call a spade a spade and just outright say that you are attempting to
> make a buck from your fellow fetishists...maybe they'll think it's a
> good deal - not my call.
We charge enough money to support the site, I would like to see you
run a site that costs this much to support. No one is getting rich
here. trust me.
> > But calling your site a "support" site is an outright lie.
as much as calling you open-minded I suppose. Just because you might
not find our site a useful resource doesn't mean that others might
not.
> We're not stupid.
Really? I've no evidence to to the contrary :)
Dan
Diane Arons
>We charge enough money to support the site, I would like to see you
>run a site that costs this much to support. No one is getting rich
>here. trust me.
Spam and porn. NOT support.
Get over it - people know what you are.
d...@urnotalone.com
> Spam and porn. NOT support.
> Get over it - people know what you are.
wow. bitter much. we do more support with our so-called porn site that
anything you've managed (or will manage)
10% of our site pays for the other 90%. you just seem agitated because
you didn't think of it first.
the adult content on our site is optional. not mandatory. you can't
seem to wrap your tiny little brain around that. all of our free
content is free no matter what
so get of your high horse and get over yourself.
we have over 3,600 registered members on our free site who seem to
think we are doing just fine. you are just some usenet troll who
thinks she is more important than she is. tearing down the good works
of others to hide the fact that she has none of her own
and fyi: your opinion doesn't count as support
Tg friend and supporter
statements would suggest otherwise. You seem to want to strike fast
without thinking. I know several people that have talked about
urnotalone and they have had nothing but good things to say. I'd say
that considering the only thing they really charge for is adult
content and viewing the members own adult galleries, when they offer
free chat, posting of profiles, viewing galleries, contacting members,
and a newly improved resource section that they are from what you
would so hastily call a spam and porn site.
Before you cast stones, perhaps you had better do your homework.
Simply slamming away at a site where the founders really do care about
transgendered people and issues isn't a way to make friends. Although,
from the sounds of your nasty posts, doesn't seem like you have many
of those. Also, I've noticed that no one else has come to your
defense. Instead of making bad assumptions and blanket statements, You
should go find someone else to pick on, because right now all you are
doing is simply making yourself look like an idiot.
Diane <diane...@nottyourr.bizz> wrote in message news:<vjfsmud...@news.supernews.com>...
Diane Arons
wrote:
>
>Ummm.. I think you're missing what's really going on here... Fuckwit (aka
>Diane) isn't about guardianship or even censorship, she's all about destroying
>anything that is or might be helpful to transgendered people.
The actual history of Lyle Blake's Usenet abuse can be found at :
www.trannytrolls.us
It's no surprise that he stands up for a porn spammer in these
newsgroups....
Why?
Turns out that in 1991 he identified as *transsexual* but failed his
Real Life Test as a woman as indicated in these newspaper articles:
http://www.holysmoke.org/fem/fem0346.htm
Diane Arons
and supporter) wrote:
>Diane...One question. Have you ever been to
Of course I've been to it....and your attempt Jon to direct MORE
people to this site through a shill is transparent.
As I stated before the site contains "advertisements" and pay-for
porn rather then any kind of "support".
Just another person trying to make a buck off the transgendered.
HEre are two links for *actual* support sites - no porn, no pay and NO
BS:
d...@urnotalone.com
lol - that actually wasn't Jon. Jon stays away from UseNet these days.
so what you are saying is that because we figured out how to manke the
site cover it's own costs, we aren't valid
fair enough.
it's a big internet and if we completely accidentally happen to help
someone before you get a chance to make fun of them, then I will
consider it a job well done.
:)
thank god I don't sit and argue ALL day. I can't imagine how angry and
bitter I would be.
:)
Diane Arons
>> HEre are two links for *actual* support sites - no porn, no pay and NO
>> BS:
>>
>> www.tsroadmap.com
>>
>> http://www.annelawrence.com/twr/
>>
>>
>> http://www.transgender.org
>
>lol - that actually wasn't Jon. Jon stays away from UseNet these days.
>
>so what you are saying is that because we figured out how to manke the
>site cover it's own costs, we aren't valid
Mo, I'm saying the reason that you aren't valid John Fishman aka Dan
aka 'scarlett" aka: fnjadedlilbunny is because you are purveyers of
PORN and attempt to SPAM the newsgroups with stupidly fake sock
puppetts promoting your rip-off site.
Scarlett_Vaughn
all sorts of nasty little accusations, DOn't you? Sad, yOu seem to
have all the time in the world to post angry irate messages to people
who are trying to help the transgender community. Why not instead, get
off your ass and do something to help them yourself? oh wait..that
would require you to not be a bitter angry narrowminded hag.
OH. and if you click the profile you'll clearly see that it's a
female...who lives in columbus ohio..just like scarlett..one and the
same..GROW UP>
Diane Arons <dianearons@yahoo___nosopam__com> wrote in message news:<vjkt3j3...@news.supernews.com>...
Diane Arons
(Scarlett_Vaughn) wrote:
>Sigh. Diane, that wasn't Jon. That was me scarlett.
I already proved that you and "dan" are the same person stupid troll
- same IP addresses.
Here's the face of PORN SPAMMER John FIshman aka "Scarlett
Vaugn" aka "dan"...ain't "she" cute?
http://www.urnotalone.com/posts/user_account/2.jpg
d...@urnotalone.com
> - same IP addresses.
>
> Here's the face of PORN SPAMMER John FIshman aka "Scarlett
> Vaugn" aka "dan"...ain't "she" cute?
>
> http://www.urnotalone.com/posts/user_account/2.jpg
you are an idiot Dianne. something I've ascertained from the way
people in her IGNORE you
Scarlett and I have the same IP address because we LIVE together. she
is my girl friend. something we mention in BOTH of our profiles
Jon is in boston. I'm in Columbus. something you could figure out with
a simple NS Lookup
my profile AND scarletts are both real
Daniel K Frederick
1429 West 6th Avenue
Columbus OH 43212
something you could have figured out had you actually looked up
RetroKitten.com
Jon, Dan and Scarlett are all real people. unlike you.
I'm going to join the rest of the room in ignoring all of your idle
rants now. :
Dan
http://www.urnotalone.com
no support but lots of PORN! :)
d...@urnotalone.com
scarlett is actually a genetic girl
dan.fr...@mac.com
http://homepage.mac.com/dan.frederick
http://www.urnotalone.com/profiles.php?id=4
http://www.outincolumbus.com/membership/Search3.asp?UserID=321823
ooh, look at the porn spammer hiding! I have SO much to hide
:)
I will now join the rest of the human in ignoring your spiteful little rants
Diane Arons
>Scarlett and I have the same IP address because we LIVE together. she
>is my girl friend. something we mention in BOTH of our profiles
Gee Dan...jon or whatever you're calling yourself now...no spammer has
ever used the "it's someone living with me in my house" excuse before
for a sockpuppett.
Try again.
Diane Arons
>ooh, look at the porn spammer hiding! I have SO much to hide
You do porn and you spam newsgroups...why hide what's obvious?
>I will now join the rest of the human in ignoring your spiteful little rants
Yah...yo said that in your last post "scarlett"
Jon
I, Jon, who was just pointed to this thread, take personal offense to
this. Jon is Jon. Dan is Dan. Scarlett is Scarlett. Vicky is Vicky. We
are not one and the same.
All of us work very hard on URNotAlone. All of us are deeply involved
in the Transgendered Community and all of us put our heart and sole
into URNotAlone.
It just so happens that I also enjoy Adult Content and I ran a
seperate site, ModelTS, for years. Maintaining 2 dedicated servers at
2 seperate hosting companies on 2 different operating systems was what
finally prompted us to merge ModelTS into URNotAlone.
Basically you're saying that one can't support the Transgendered
Community and do Adult Content at the same time? Are you out of your
mind? I know the vast majority of the Models I shoot personally, they
are also my friends. Vicky is my Girlfriend of over 12 years now and
she is a main feature of ModelTS.
As for advertising. Do you have any idea of what it takes to run a
site that gets upwards of 50,000 hits per day and eats bandwidth like
I breathe air? Maybe you are independently wealthy, I'm not, our
Advertising pays for a small part of our hosting fees, Adult Content
Subscriptions pay for the rest and they fund the development of the
Free Areas of URNotAlone and the vast majority of URNotAlone is FREE.
Basically Diane, you're an asshole.
Jon
Diane Arons
>Basically you're saying that one can't support the Transgendered
>Community and do Adult Content at the same time?
What I'm saying <again> Spam Man is that it's all too obviously
disingenuous (that mean's a lie, brain boy) when you are providing a
pay-for-porn site, spamming your adverts about it over numerous
newsgroups with numerous shills and then trying to pass it off as
"support" and even *charity* no less!
Porn purveyors are generally scum, scum trying to make a buck from the
sexual fetishes of others and scum who take advantage of women -
you've shown yourself to be all too true to the stereotype.
Diane Arons
>Are you out of your
>mind? I know the vast majority of the Models I shoot personally, they
>are also my friends. Vicky is my Girlfriend of over 12 years now and
>she is a main feature of ModelTS.
So you're not only freaking porn spamming scum but you're pimping
your "girlfriend" all over the internet as a "main feature" of your
pay-for-porn site.
And you don't even see what's wrong with this do you? How much of
that 'Vette of yours was bought by selling her ass scumbag?
Ohhh...geez....low life...
Sandra Worley
> As for advertising. Do you have any idea of what it takes to run a
> site that gets upwards of 50,000 hits per day and eats bandwidth like
> I breathe air? Maybe you are independently wealthy, I'm not, our
> Advertising pays for a small part of our hosting fees, Adult Content
> Subscriptions pay for the rest and they fund the development of the
> Free Areas of URNotAlone and the vast majority of URNotAlone is FREE.
As to your question: I do.. 2-3 Gig tranfer rate bit time.. Have you ever
though of hosting it yourself?? I currently use a system in the house to
host my hubby's and my own domains locally..
One reason I have never uploaded anything to your site is due to the
"perception" of using a "fetish for dollars" site it has to me.. I
am not bashing you, just don't call it a "FREE" site since there are
things you have to "pay" to do.. There is a difference..
About those who are "flaming" you: just put them on ignore.. But remeber
that some people are not interested in your site and posting saying it is
a "FREE" site can be considered spamming by most..
Sandra
Scarlett_Vaughn
I'm sorry you feel that way. The reason we call it a free site is
that %90 of our services are free. Posting a profile, requesting
public galleries, contacting other members, browsing profiles,
browsing our huge resource listing, chat..all of this is freee. The
only thing you have to pay for is if YOU want to view adult content
that is provided by the very members on our site.
"Sandra Worley" <twos...@IDONTLIKESPAManp-inc.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.08.14....@IDONTLIKESPAManp-inc.net>...
Diane Arons
(Scarlett_Vaughn) wrote:
>Sandra.
> I'm sorry you feel that way. The reason we call it a free site is
>that %90 of our services are free. Posting a profile, requesting
>public galleries, contacting other members, browsing profiles,
>browsing our huge resource listing, chat..all of this is freee.
#1 Your "huge resource listing" is simply a yellow pages collection od
paid for advertisements. Plus a few search engine results as well.
#2 90% of what is on your site IS NOT FREE you stupid porn spammer.
Of course you can *post* a listing but to respond back you have to
pay.
#3 For people looking for REAL support and not something that gets
some Slimey looking sleezeball his next new 'Vette here are
*legitimate* resources to use:
Sorry "scarlett" or dan or Jon or whatever you are calling yourself
these days but others seem to understand the nature of your SPAM Scam
too <g>
Amanda Angelika
news:vjo3sbj...@news.supernews.com
and didst say:
Yes and even if it was free, posting a link to any website out of self interest or
promotion, since it may not be relevent to everyone in a Newsgroup may be considered
Spam by some, Whether it is free or not is not really the issue.
Which is why I keep anything that might otherwise be considered Spam in my sig :) The
links promote my Web design skills and the sites that I run, but are not the primary
reason why I post here. Also if a lot of people objected to my sig I would change it.
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Sandra Worley
> I'm sorry you feel that way. The reason we call it a free site is
<snip>
> that is provided by the very members on our site.
Well if I don't want to have "adult" photos on your site - I have to PAY..
I am better at web design then that.. I am one of those "old time"
internet users (when free meant free)..
Sandra
Jon
>
> > As for advertising. Do you have any idea of what it takes to run a
> > site that gets upwards of 50,000 hits per day and eats bandwidth like
> > I breathe air? Maybe you are independently wealthy, I'm not, our
> > Advertising pays for a small part of our hosting fees, Adult Content
> > Subscriptions pay for the rest and they fund the development of the
> > Free Areas of URNotAlone and the vast majority of URNotAlone is FREE.
>
> As to your question: I do.. 2-3 Gig tranfer rate bit time.. Have you ever
> though of hosting it yourself?? I currently use a system in the house to
> host my hubby's and my own domains locally..
I've thought about this, but with Linux and Apache and Volano Chat and
MySQL and all the other software along with the hardware, thought it
better to leave that to people who manage servers for a living, hence
Cavecreek is our Hosting Company and they do a great job and have
great tech support when things do go wrong, not to mention being able
to quickly swap out a failed component when necessary... plus they
have the bandwidth to host spikes in demand.
>
> One reason I have never uploaded anything to your site is due to the
> "perception" of using a "fetish for dollars" site it has to me.. I
> am not bashing you, just don't call it a "FREE" site since there are
> things you have to "pay" to do.. There is a difference..
>
I understand you're not bashing us. I guess we should call it a
"mostly free" site. The only areas we do charge for are the URNA Adult
Galleries... to validate age (the billing company does that for us)
and offset bandwidth and the ModelTS Adult Content... to pay the
models, pay the bandwidth, fund development of all areas of the
site... and yes, hopefully to eventually make a profit even.
> About those who are "flaming" you: just put them on ignore.. But remeber
> that some people are not interested in your site and posting saying it is
> a "FREE" site can be considered spamming by most..
>
Yeah, I know... but I think we all felt (Dan, Scarlett, Vicky and I)
that people should hear our side, rather than let some twit (read
Diane) just bash us.
> Sandra
Diane Arons
>I understand you're not bashing us. I guess we should call it a
>"mostly free" site. The only areas we do charge for are the URNA Adult
>Galleries... to validate age (the billing company does that for us)
>and offset bandwidth and the ModelTS Adult Content... to pay the
>models, pay the bandwidth, fund development of all areas of the
>site... and yes, hopefully to eventually make a profit even.
No, you should call it what it is.... a pay-for-porn TG site made by
people who aren't TG themselves but hope to make a buck the baser
instincts of some of the baser members of the TG community.
You're a Pornographer, Jon.
You're a spammer as well.
Jon
And what are you Diane? I'm out in the open. My profile is available
for everybody to see. You on the other hand appear to be in hiding...
I wonder why? Embarrased or Ashamed of what you are perhaps or maybe
it's something a little more insidious than that?
Diane
>
>> No, you should call it what it is.... a pay-for-porn TG site made by
>> people who aren't TG themselves but hope to make a buck the baser
>> instincts of some of the baser members of the TG community.
>>
>> You're a Pornographer, Jon.
>> You're a spammer as well.
>
>And what are you Diane? I'm out in the open.
Ohhhh... an "out" pornographer - well that's *much* better then....
<lol!>
You're still a bottom feeder Jon - a pornographer. Nothing that
*anyone* would be proud of. That's who you are and you're proud of
that?
Figures.
Here are some links to ACTUAL: SUPPORT SITES fro TG people:
d...@urnotalone.com
true, or you can just link to your own site from your profile. we
offer the option of public photos for people aren't savy in the ways
of html.
considering it's only ten dollars for an entire year, it's really not
a bad deal for people who don't have their own webspace.
considering you get chat, profiles, links, and soon, event calendars
and discussion forums for free, most of the time, you can just ignore
the rest of it.
:)
Dan
Diane Arons
>true, or you can just link to your own site from your profile. we
>offer the option of public photos for people aren't savy in the ways
>of html.
Hey Fishbreath,
Perhaps if you actually had stayed in school you would know how to
write a decent paragraph (capitals Jon, remember them?) instead of
having become a cheap internet pornographer?
Diane Arons
>and discussion forums for free, most of the time, you can just ignore
>the rest of it.
Considering that once you pay you find out that the "personals" on
there aren't of TG people at all but are just either made up or are
Jon's non-TG friends then the deal SUCKS.
Congratulations, you've just been scammed by Jon Fishman - internet
pornographer, spammer and scam artist.
Beckiaine
First, it *is* a support site. Surely there are very very good
informational sites out on the web, and Diane has rightly noted some
of the more excellent ones. And there are excellent bulletin boards
and e-mail groups too for support. But let's not forget the point of
URNOTALONE - real time community support.
It's trans-women (and trans-men I hope!) CONNECTING with each other as
people. AND in that human connection the support happens. If this
community weren't here I know at least one trans-woman who might have
committed suicide. That is the plain truth. I'd bet my paycheck
there are others. I pesonally have met other sisters who've reached
out to me and made a significant positive impact on my life.
So I don't sound like some morose head case (which many of my sister's
at URNOTALONE already know I am anyway ;-) ) ... the community is fun
too. And it's just plain nice to go someplace - even if it is virtual
- where you are openly accepted. As trans-folk, men and women, we
know first hand the non-accepting side of life all too well.
The team at URNOTALONE need to at least meet expenses for the
outstanding work they do. No one can or should begrudge them that.
They are doing a very, very good job.
Diane <diane...@nottyourr.bizz> wrote in message news:<vjfsmud...@news.supernews.com>...
> On 11 Aug 2003 10:32:15 -0700, d...@urnotalone.com wrote:
>
> >As many of you know, URNotAlone.com has provided FREE online resources
> >to the Transgendered Community for many years now.
>
> Yet ANOTHER adult porn site masquerading as "support" and trying to
> make another buck off the TG community.
Diane Arons
wrote:
>Just an open note about IAMASCAM that I think is very important.
>First, it *is* a support site.
Ohhh! Another sockpuppet by Jon ("Fishbreath") Fishman - this time
coming right out of his home town of Boston MA , his own ISPand very
likely his own cable connection !
( 65-78-22-147.c3-0.frm-ubr2.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com )
Google shows that Jon Fishbreath has a history since '97 of trying to
promote his rip-off website by posting on as various "women" in
different newsgroups who claim to have wonderful profiles on his site
- hehehehe .
Well Jon - No one'e *ever* done that before <g>.
It's obvious that Fishman's UHAVEBEENSCAMMED site prono is down in
the dumps as he tries to scam more clients into paying up for a bunch
of phoney profiles that he created.
Well you *knew* porno-spammers were scum - so you shouldn't have been
surprised :) .
Sandra Worley
> true, or you can just link to your own site from your profile. we
> offer the option of public photos for people aren't savy in the ways
> of html.
Well being someone who has dealt with HTML since 1996 (though I am no
expert) - I am too busy trying to get some PHP working properly..
> considering it's only ten dollars for an entire year, it's really not
> a bad deal for people who don't have their own webspace.
ten dollars is alot when you don't have any income..
> considering you get chat, profiles, links, and soon, event calendars
> and discussion forums for free, most of the time, you can just ignore
> the rest of it.
Of course i have it with my yahoo login, or even working with some other
PHP scripting (including PostNuke)..
Sandra
Diane
wrote:
>DON'T LET FUCKWITS RENT SPACE IN YOUR HEAD!
Oh face it Lyle...your head went Condo years ago.
Jon
Yet another intelligent, articulate response from Diane...
Jon
> On 16 Aug 2003 17:55:29 -0700, rebecc...@fastmail.fm (Beckiaine)
> wrote:
>
> >Just an open note about IAMASCAM that I think is very important.
> >First, it *is* a support site.
>
>
> Ohhh! Another sockpuppet by Jon ("Fishbreath") Fishman - this time
> coming right out of his home town of Boston MA , his own ISPand very
> likely his own cable connection !
> ( 65-78-22-147.c3-0.frm-ubr2.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com )
Don't know where you got that one from since I don't use rcn.
>
> Google shows that Jon Fishbreath has a history since '97 of trying to
> promote his rip-off website by posting on as various "women" in
> different newsgroups who claim to have wonderful profiles on his site
> - hehehehe .
Simply not true. I've never posted under any name other than Jon.
Let's see one of my alleged posts under a name other than my own...
>
> Well Jon - No one'e *ever* done that before <g>.
>
> It's obvious that Fishman's UHAVEBEENSCAMMED site prono is down in
> the dumps as he tries to scam more clients into paying up for a bunch
> of phoney profiles that he created.
Again, point me to a phony profile that I created. The only profiles
that are entered by me are for Featured Models who prefer that I put
up a profile for them. Obviously you don't understand the format of
the site... The profiles are the way the Galleries are accessed and
when I put in a Models description, you'll notice that it's worded in
the 3rd person telling someone a little something about the model or
about the shoot and, most importantly, profiles that I enter are
signed Jon... believe it or not, I'm a very honest person so I'd
appreciate it if you would stop presenting traits of your personality
as if they were traits of mine.
Jon
Sorry, can't answer this one, since it wasn't posted or signed by
me... looks like one of Dan's responses and I assume he was busy but
wanted to answer a question for someone.
Cazador
I've known Jon for almost 20 years. He is an extremely generous and
decent person. He is extremely accomplished. I've never met Dan but he
came in and brought URNA from the brink of closure when Jon thought he
might have to abandon it because of time demands. His technical
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Diane
wrote:
>
>I've known Jon for almost 20 years. He is an extremely generous and
>decent person. He is extremely accomplished.
He's a pornographer. Pornographers are *not* nice and decent people.
They are bottom-feeders who pry off of some of the basest desires of
some of the most simple people. They take advantage of women .
And *you* are just another sockpuppett with a hotmail account.
Diane Arons
>
>Simply not true. I've never posted under any name other than Jon.
>Let's see one of my alleged posts under a name other than my own...
Rule #1 Spammers always lie.
Rule #2 When in doubt, see rule #1.
Jon
Once again... Diane, I asked you a Direct Question and once again
Diane, as with every single question I've asked in response to your
outright lies, with absolutely no exceptions, you've avoided answering
the question. Point me to one of these alleged posts... since you
claim they are numerous, you should be able to come up with at least
one.
Jon
Diane
> Point me to one of these alleged posts... since you
>claim they are numerous, you should be able to come up with at least
>one.
Jon
Just as I thought... more hot air.
Diane Arons
d...@urnotalone.com
Nefer Frost
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and didst say:
| hey "diane"! are u a freak or a REAL woman? freakdom isn't a
| community! a true community is a neighbourhood or something similar.
an institution
| not a bunch of freaks separated by many miles to 100's of miles.
|
| ~Nefer and Freeza
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doesn't she
Jon
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 12:45:42 -0400, Cazador <cazad...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >I've known Jon for almost 20 years. He is an extremely generous and
> >decent person. He is extremely accomplished.
>
> He's a pornographer. Pornographers are *not* nice and decent people.
> They are bottom-feeders who pry off of some of the basest desires of
> some of the most simple people. They take advantage of women .
So, let me get this straight. If I receive and eMail from a girl
asking if she could model for our Adult Content Area and I ask her to
send a few pics and she sends them and I like what I see... if we then
setup a shoot... if the modeling fee makes her happy and the I'm happy
with the model... how am I taking advantage of anyone... just
wondering... seems a bit curious to me that you'd consider that taking
advantage of someone.
Scarlett_Vaughn
help the transgender community...
tw...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote in message news:<cbf70cb6.03082...@posting.google.com>...
Joanne Smith
Shame! (please get help - you'll feel better)
Love Joanne.
"Nefer Frost" <Jerem...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:11620-3F...@storefull-2231.public.lawson.webtv.net...
Jon
> On 13 Aug 2003 19:44:23 -0700, tw...@yahoo.com (Jon) wrote:
>
> >Are you out of your
> >mind? I know the vast majority of the Models I shoot personally, they
> >are also my friends. Vicky is my Girlfriend of over 12 years now and
> >she is a main feature of ModelTS.
>
> So you're not only freaking porn spamming scum but you're pimping
> your "girlfriend" all over the internet as a "main feature" of your
> pay-for-porn site.
Have you spoken with Vicky Diane? Don't answer... you wouldn't have
bothered... because you'd just find out that it was her request to be
the Hostess on ModelTS... not my idea... totally hers.
>
> And you don't even see what's wrong with this do you? How much of
> that 'Vette of yours was bought by selling her ass scumbag?
As I mentioned in my other note... if I were to buy any car from the
money made on URNotAlone/ModelTS it would have to be a 20 year old,
used, Yugo... even then I'd only be able to afford the down payment.
As I mentioned in another post... URNotAlone is a Labor of Love and
the ModelTS Adult Content is a Hobby... neither one of them pays the
bills... more often than not, I'm paying the bills to keep them
afloat.
I happen to earn a decent living and I work hard for the things I own.
>
> Ohhh...geez....low life...
What exactly do you do for a living Diane... just out of curiousity?
BTW, I've missed your rants... unlike you, some of us actually are
busy on occasion.
Jon