Did FZ loose 500 tunes ?
DrSardonic
says longtime Synclavier owner Frank Zappa, "in that they bought software
service contracts from NED, and are entitled to repairs and software
updates, which recently have become semi-annual bug fixes. But now these
bugs can't be fixed, which means that even though I've got a humongous
amount of money invested in my machine, I've got about 500 compositions in
it that I can't deliver. All my future output lives in this Synclavier."
http://home.earthlink.net/~yaking/html/wsnARTS.html
John Henley
<drsar...@NoSpomyahoo.com> wrote:
> "..... I've got about 500 compositions in it.....
This became conventional wisdom as soon as he said it,
but I think someone from the staff, though I can't remember who,
indicated that some of those were probably alternate versions
of the same thing, and some were just the beginnings of new
pieces that he hadn't done anything else with. 500 finished
compositions ain't very likely, though there may well be a bunch.
As to whether they're loost, others should have more up-to-date
info on retrieval attempts - so.......?
John H.
JYOB
Dave Wilcher
> "Lose".....
No, he mean "loose" - the second hard disc was loose.
dave
--
The best cure for the ills of democracy is more democracy. - Ed Abbey
Lewis Saul
> but I think someone from the staff, though I can't remember who,
> indicated that some of those were probably alternate versions
> of the same thing, and some were just the beginnings of new
> pieces that he hadn't done anything else with. 500 finished
> compositions ain't very likely, though there may well be a bunch.
>
That's pretty much my understanding, too.
I repeat what I learned from a conversation with Todd Yvega:
Zappa would work on a piece and then morning would dawn and he'd say to Todd
(or whoever) -- "close that file and save it..." and Todd (or whoever) would
label the file something (say: "poodle3a") and the next day FZ would work on
it some mo' and perhaps then close it himself, RELABELING it with some new
groovy title like "tithair7e" and then work on something else, etc. etc.
You can see how there very well could be 500 *files* in the computer bank --
but how many are "save as" files that have identical twins (or triplets),
not to mention "compositions" which consist of as many as 30 or 50 "thread"
files which NO ONE (probably not even Todd) could put together with any
reasonable hope of understanding what FZ had in mind
etc. etc.
As we all agreed last time we spoke about this
A scholarly approach would be to release *everything* in snippet form and
let us imagine what might have been. You can be 1000% certain this will
never happen, tho...
LS
Joachim Ott
> "Lose".....
Lsd
Dave Wilcher
Remember, only users lose drugs.
Lars Olsson
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Hoodude
wrote:
>>> "Lose".....
>> Lsd
>Remember, only users lose drugs.
But a friend in weed is a friend indeed.
*******PAPA WILL FUCK AFFZ********
500 MIDIS UP INSMOKE = OH THE HUMANITY
Human
John Henley wrote:
This is something I seized upon immediately when I read that interview,
what a loss!
I have an idea however, that may be hair brained but maybe not.
Hopefully these compositions can be converted to standard MIDI files. If
not, forget it.
As I can not think of any other way to present this, here it is to the
group mind;
I envision a contest held by the ZFT. About 30 to 50 of the complete
compositions as MIDI files on a CD. To prevent the obvious easy
distribution of such small files over the internet, Contest entry would
require purchase of the CD registered with the ZFT, a trivial amount
say even $5, $10 an entry.
The contest would then be, who can create an album full of these
completed compositions as red book audio. Winner of course, the best
work, would actually be released to the public, perhaps mail-order only,
or downloaded, and the winner to receive a couple of points or whatever,
one of Frank's old socks, a parka, or a set of Lps.
With today's computer technology specifically Gigastudio, and VST
instruments, they should be rather awesome I think. The ZFT gets another
album, we freaks get more of the great man's music. As long as there are
compositions, each year the contest will be held, Halloween of course.
I'd buy them.
What do you think?
hu...@digcomputers.com
Santa Barbara, CA
a...@dinges.nl
Ever heard Frank's (or anybody else's) music on midi?
Probably beter off being unkown in the synclavier, than on midi is
what I think
Michael Gula
One cannot "hear" a MIDI, since MIDI is a computer language used
to allow various electronic musical instruments to interface.
idirect news
the MIDI files into what the experts think FZ was heading for with these
rough "notes"
In the mean time, where are the complete, unreleased albums, when will we
get to hear them?
"Michael Gula" <mike...@erols.com> wrote in message
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Gary
> Ever heard Frank's (or anybody else's) music on midi?
Well I've heard Jazz from Hell! Although MIDI wasn't necessarily
involved I don't see how it would make a difference. JFH sure sounds
computerized and sequenced to me and most of the timbres are fairly
plastic sounding. It's not my fave FZ but I do like a lot of it.
I think a modern PC based sequencer and some modern day
synths/samplers could easily achieve what was done on JFH 20 years
ago. The only question I might have is time smearing due to serial
nature of MIDI. With virtual instruments starting to take hold that
too may be an artifact of the past.