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TheMan

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Oct 5, 2003, 2:32:28 PM10/5/03
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The Israeli's have just attacked Syria, a sovereign nation. That is an act
of war, and I hope the Arab world pulls together and retaliates against the
Zionazi's.

I hope the Syrians and Iranians get their act together to build weapons of
mass destruction to defend themselves from these Zionazi aggressors.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/05/1065292475370.html

Israel took its battle against Palestinian militants to Syria yesterday,
striking deep inside Syrian territory for the first time in decades, after a
suicide bomber killed 19 people in an Israeli restaurant.

Israeli security sources and Palestinian sources in Beirut said Israeli
warplanes carried out the attack near the capital, Damascus.

"The Israel Defence Forces operated last night deep inside Syrian territory
and hit a training base used by terror groups, including Islamic Jihad," the
army said, without giving details of the forces used in the operation.

Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing on Saturday
that killed 19 people in a beach restaurant in the northern Israeli city of
Haifa.

The raid hit "an abandoned training camp" that belonged to the Popular Front
for the Liberation of Palestine in the Ain Saheb area, about 20 kilometres
north-west of Damascus, a Palestinian source said.

Syrian officials were not immediately available for comment on the surprise
Israeli move, made against the backdrop of speculation that Israel would
target the Palestinian President, Yasser Arafat, whom it has threatened to
exile.


"The Islamic Jihad, like other terror organisations . . . enjoys the support
and backing of countries in the region - foremost Iran and Syria," the
Israeli Army said.

"Syria is a country that sponsors terror and constantly tries to sabotage
any attempt to achieve quiet and stability in the region."

An Islamic Jihad official in Beirut told the Al-Jazeera television network
there were no training camps in Syria.

But an Israeli security source said Islamic Jihad and Hamas members are
trained in the use of explosives and other ordnance at the Ain Saheb camp
and some return to the West Bank and Gaza Strip to establish "operational
terrorist networks". The source said the camp was sponsored by Iran.

The United States has been pressing Syria to meet a long-standing demand by
Israel, its key regional ally, to close offices of radical Palestinian
groups.

Syria-based Palestinian groups have been keeping a low profile to reduce
pressure on their hosts, who say the offices merely perform media functions.

The Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, said last week that Damascus was
taking precautions "against every negative matter that Israel could think
of" following media reports that Israel might bomb leaders of Palestinian
militant groups in Syria and Lebanon.

Israeli warplanes have hit Syrian military targets in Lebanon in recent
years, but Israeli military commentators said it was the first time since
the 1973 Middle East war that they have struck deep inside Syria.

Hours after the Haifa bombing, Israeli helicopters fired missiles at what
the army said was a weapons depot belonging to the militant group Hamas in
the Gaza Strip. No one was hurt.

Israeli forces also blocked the Gaza Strip's main north-south highway and
its coastal road to Palestinian traffic, a measure it has taken after past
suicide bombings and an edict Palestinians condemn as collective punishment.

The bomber struck on the Jewish Sabbath, detonating her explosives on
Haifa's popular coastal promenade, an area beside the beach crowded with
people. At least five children were among the dead.

The bombing at the Maxim restaurant, frequented by Jews and Arabs, triggered
fresh calls in Israel to exile Mr Arafat. But an Israeli Government source
said that no decision on Mr Arafat was imminent.

In Washington, President George Bush condemned the bombing as "despicable"
and omitted any warning to Israel about constraining its response.

Reuters, The Washington Post

Paul Moore

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Oct 5, 2003, 4:19:37 PM10/5/03
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"TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com> wrote in message
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> The Israeli's have just attacked Syria, a sovereign nation.
That is an act
> of war, and I hope the Arab world pulls together and retaliates
against the
> Zionazi's.

No doubt the Israelis do too. Then they could wipe them out in
wholesale lots intead of small groups.

> I hope the Syrians and Iranians get their act together to build
weapons of
> mass destruction to defend themselves from these Zionazi
aggressors.

Interesting hope. You want the entire middle east to be nuked,
and tens, if not hundreds of millions killed, plus the oil
supplies for most of the world irradiated, leading to a massive
worldwide depression which would kill off tens if not hundreds of
millions more, especially in third world countries. That's to say
nothing of the affect on the environment, with the dust of most
of the middle east blowing across Asia - killing who knows how
many, and then across the Pacific to America and South America.

Because those darned Jewish folk bombed a terrorist training
camp.

Very well thought out there, Sparky.

Nicolas Benicoeur

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Oct 5, 2003, 4:32:24 PM10/5/03
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> Because those darned Jewish folk bombed a terrorist training
> camp.

It was an empty, ex-refugee camp.


nobody

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Oct 5, 2003, 5:09:44 PM10/5/03
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In article <0tZfb.137729$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com> wrote:

> The Israeli's have just attacked Syria, a sovereign nation. That is an act
> of war, and I hope the Arab world pulls together and retaliates against the
> Zionazi's.


So do I. It will be fun watching the ayrab world get its ass kicked yet
again.

nobody

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Oct 5, 2003, 5:10:48 PM10/5/03
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In article
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"Paul Moore" <moorepa#@#rogers.com> wrote:


Yep, "theman" isn't one of the brightest bulbs in the fixture.

Petzl

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Oct 5, 2003, 5:43:25 PM10/5/03
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:32:28 GMT, "TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com>
wrote:

>The Israeli's have just attacked Syria, a sovereign nation. That is an act
>of war, and I hope the Arab world pulls together and retaliates against the
>Zionazi's.
>
>I hope the Syrians and Iranians get their act together to build weapons of
>mass destruction to defend themselves from these Zionazi aggressors.
>
>http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/05/1065292475370.html
>

About time another terrorist threatening country such as Syria was
dealt with. Why did the UN sit by knowingly allowing Syria to export
terrorism from within it's borders?


Petzl
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Protecting our way of life from terrorist threat

Anne

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Oct 5, 2003, 6:04:41 PM10/5/03
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"TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com> wrote in message
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Interesting how you readily leap to the defence of Syria yet fail to condemn
the suicide bombers...seems to me the Isrealis are keeping a tight rein on
retaliation here...god help the middle east if the hawks decide enough is
enough cos then there really well be all hell let loose and it'll be Jewish
hell loosened on dogs of war...and we know what happens to mad dogs.


Anne


Nicolas Benicoeur

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Oct 5, 2003, 6:13:48 PM10/5/03
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> Interesting how you readily leap to the defence of Syria yet fail to
condemn
> the suicide bombers...

What use is it condemning a dead man or woman? Yesterday's suicide bombing
was carried out by a woman whose brother and cousin were shot dead by
ZioNazi storm troopers in the Jenin atrocity. No court in existence would
hear her case, her government have no tanks, F16s, Apaches etc.. with which
to fight back so she used the only weapon she had, herself.


Anne

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"Nicolas Benicoeur" <dontspam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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oh purlease...open your blinkered eyes you moron...if the Arab world hadn't
thrown down the gauntlet and stated they would not rest until every last Jew
was driven into the sea we wouldn't have this mess.
You seriously expect the Jews to sit back and let these "poor" people carry
on killing them without ANY retaliation?
What planet do YOU live on?


dechucka

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Oct 5, 2003, 7:16:51 PM10/5/03
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"Anne" <An...@homenet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Nicolas Benicoeur" <dontspam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:blq52g$enutk$1...@ID-186693.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Interesting how you readily leap to the defence of Syria yet fail to
> > condemn
> > > the suicide bombers...
> >
> > What use is it condemning a dead man or woman? Yesterday's suicide
bombing
> > was carried out by a woman whose brother and cousin were shot dead by
> > ZioNazi storm troopers in the Jenin atrocity. No court in existence
would
> > hear her case, her government have no tanks, F16s, Apaches etc.. with
> which
> > to fight back so she used the only weapon she had, herself.
> >
> >
>
> oh purlease...open your blinkered eyes you moron...if the Arab world
hadn't
> thrown down the gauntlet and stated they would not rest until every last
Jew
> was driven into the sea we wouldn't have this mess.

pulease if the Isreali's would bugger back to the original borders than
peace would have a better chance, it really helps that they are busy
annexing land at a great rate with walls and illegal settlement

> You seriously expect the Jews to sit back and let these "poor" people
carry
> on killing them without ANY retaliation?

and you expect the Palastinians to sit back and have thier land stolen.

> What planet do YOU live on?

probably the same bizzare planet that you are on that sees things only in
black and white
>
>


Anne

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Oct 5, 2003, 7:22:50 PM10/5/03
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"dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well excuse me for seeing black and white


dechucka

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Oct 5, 2003, 7:39:35 PM10/5/03
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"Anne" <An...@homenet.com> wrote in message
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no excuse for it because if you do than you end up in the type of mess that
we have in the middle east, a bit of compromise ON BOTH SIDES may see a
compromise.

Remember that a terrorist is another mans freedom fighter
>
>


Uncle Dave

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Oct 5, 2003, 7:46:11 PM10/5/03
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:32:28 GMT, TheMan <nor...@noreply.com> wrote:

> The Israeli's have just attacked Syria, a sovereign nation. That is an
> act
> of war, and I hope the Arab world pulls together and retaliates against
> the
> Zionazi's.
>
> I hope the Syrians and Iranians get their act together to build weapons
> of
> mass destruction to defend themselves from these Zionazi aggressors.
>
> http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/05/1065292475370.html

Normally I am one of the first people to condemn the Israeli government.
And indeed, dropping bombs on another country, even if it is dropping them
on a terrorist camp, is an act of war. If Syria did fight back, which
would be pretty stupid, then they would be entirely justified.

However, your attitude leaves a lot to be desired. You are fanning anti-
semitic sentiment. While I have no love for people like Ariel Sharon, I
realise that ordinary Israelis are not like that maniac. I know, because
I've met a few of them.

--
Uncle Dave - the Urbane Worrier

Arved Sandstrom

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"Nicolas Benicoeur" <dontspam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Because those darned Jewish folk bombed a terrorist training
> > camp.
>
> It was an empty, ex-refugee camp.

Who said that? Just curious. The Israelis have shown themselves to have
excellent intelligence over the years - I'd be more inclined to believe them
than someone on the Arab side. The Israelis seem to know what building most
Arab terrorists have their bowel movements in, and when - I doubt that they
wouldn't know whether or not that "empty ex-refugee camp" was empty or not.
In any case it would have been so close to Israel that it would have been
under constant surveillance by various means...you think the Israelis would
provoke a shitstorm by attacking an empty camp?

AHS


name

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"Nicolas Benicoeur" <dontspam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Because those darned Jewish folk bombed a terrorist training
> > camp.
>
> It was an empty, ex-refugee camp.

I doubt that Syria will openly admit to having a terrorist camp inside their
border now would they?
>
>


name

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"dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Anne" <An...@homenet.com> wrote in message
> news:usydnQa1UrG...@giganews.com...
> >
> > "Nicolas Benicoeur" <dontspam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:blq52g$enutk$1...@ID-186693.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Interesting how you readily leap to the defence of Syria yet fail to
> > > condemn
> > > > the suicide bombers...
> > >
> > > What use is it condemning a dead man or woman? Yesterday's suicide
> bombing
> > > was carried out by a woman whose brother and cousin were shot dead by
> > > ZioNazi storm troopers in the Jenin atrocity. No court in existence
> would
> > > hear her case, her government have no tanks, F16s, Apaches etc.. with
> > which
> > > to fight back so she used the only weapon she had, herself.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > oh purlease...open your blinkered eyes you moron...if the Arab world
> hadn't
> > thrown down the gauntlet and stated they would not rest until every last
> Jew
> > was driven into the sea we wouldn't have this mess.
>
> pulease if the Isreali's would bugger back to the original borders

Not good enough for Hamas. Nothing short then the complete destruction of
Israel will do.

> than
> peace would have a better chance,

When the choices are retreat and be attacked with suicide bombers, or stay
where you are and be attacked with suicide bombers, then what would you
choose.

It is clear, by the target choosen for the attack, that there are people in
Isreal wanting to get along. A jewish/arab owned resturant was attacked.
Seams to send a message doesn't it? Hamas is not just targeting Jews, but
anyone who gets in their way of a jewish free mid east.

Paul Moore

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Oct 5, 2003, 8:48:00 PM10/5/03
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"Nicolas Benicoeur" <dontspam...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> > Because those darned Jewish folk bombed a terrorist training
> > camp.
>
> It was an empty, ex-refugee camp.
>
Yes, of course it was, being used as a prayer site, no doubt.


Paul Moore

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"Nicolas Benicoeur" <dontspam...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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I guess the lesson the Israelis should take is that next time
they should kill the bitches too.

dechucka

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"name" <na...@name.com> wrote in message
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for Hamas but not the Palistinians in general IMHO, back to the original
would get alot of the palastinians onside and would make lim iting the power
of Hamas easier


>
> > than
> > peace would have a better chance,
>
> When the choices are retreat and be attacked with suicide bombers, or stay
> where you are and be attacked with suicide bombers, then what would you
> choose.

I'd try and find a way of solving the problem


>
> It is clear, by the target choosen for the attack, that there are people
in
> Isreal wanting to get along. A jewish/arab owned resturant was attacked.
> Seams to send a message doesn't it? Hamas is not just targeting Jews, but
> anyone who gets in their way of a jewish free mid east.

there are Isrealis who want to get along just as there are Palastians but
both sides policy is being driven by the extremists


>
> > it really helps that they are busy
> > annexing land at a great rate with walls and illegal settlement
> >
> > > You seriously expect the Jews to sit back and let these "poor" people
> > carry
> > > on killing them without ANY retaliation?

no but do you seriously expect the Palistinians to stop fighting for thier
land


me

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Oct 5, 2003, 9:30:21 PM10/5/03
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jews are gods chosen people so we can do what we like and we will be right!


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Mark K

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"me" <fre...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> jews are gods chosen people so we can
> do what we like and we will be right!

And the US, UK and Australia are your whores.


Mark K

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"me" <fre...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> jews are gods chosen people so we can


> do what we like and we will be right!


One of the few primitive-tribesmen who is honest about
his Nazi-like pride in belonging to the Master Race.


Dan Parker

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"Paul Moore" <moorepa#@#rogers.com> wrote in message
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What an evil, ugly thing to say. Society needs a tough as nails
world police force to keep all people such as you in your places.
By whatever means necessary.

Dan Parker

>
>
>


name

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Where do you think Hamas recruits most of its suicide bombers? No amount of
appeasement and withdrawal by Israel will stop the attacks.

> > > than
> > > peace would have a better chance,
> >
> > When the choices are retreat and be attacked with suicide bombers, or
stay
> > where you are and be attacked with suicide bombers, then what would you
> > choose.
>
> I'd try and find a way of solving the problem

So, the problem is that you have a group intent of bombing you no matter
where you are or what you do. You could either submit and die, or take the
fight to them. While you are trying to come up with an alternative, more
and more people are dying.

> > It is clear, by the target choosen for the attack, that there are people
> in
> > Isreal wanting to get along. A jewish/arab owned resturant was
attacked.
> > Seams to send a message doesn't it? Hamas is not just targeting Jews,
but
> > anyone who gets in their way of a jewish free mid east.
>
> there are Isrealis who want to get along just as there are Palastians but
> both sides policy is being driven by the extremists

And how do you alter the opinion of an extremist?

> > > it really helps that they are busy
> > > annexing land at a great rate with walls and illegal settlement
> > >
> > > > You seriously expect the Jews to sit back and let these "poor"
people
> > > carry
> > > > on killing them without ANY retaliation?
>
> no but do you seriously expect the Palistinians to stop fighting for thier
> land

Unfortunately for them, it is because of the continuous attacks on the
Israelis that their full control of their own homeland is many years off.
Every time the Israelies withdraw, a beefed up suicide attack campaign is
launched.


TheMan

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Oct 6, 2003, 12:00:26 AM10/6/03
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You do realise Israel already has the bomb don't you?

Why shouldn't countries Israel is attacking and aggressive towards also have
protection. Makes sense to me.

-TheMan-


TheMan

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> "Nicolas Benicoeur" <dontspam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:blpv4c$f547o$1...@ID-186693.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Because those darned Jewish folk bombed a terrorist training
> > > camp.
> >
> > It was an empty, ex-refugee camp.
>
> Who said that? Just curious. The Israelis have shown themselves to have
> excellent intelligence over the years

"Saddam has weapons of mass destruction"

"The British are to blame for us blwing them to bits in the King David
Hotel"

"That Palestinian guy with all those bullet holes shot himself"

"That silly American girl with the coucil fluro jacket with reflective
stripes... our IDF bulldozer guy couldn't see her... it's her fault!"


No you fucking idiot, their "intelligence" is to lie and make up stories to
further their cause. I am sick of the spin and lies and distortion of the
truth these Zionazi's have. I would believe Ronald McDonald before I would
believe the Zionazi's.

-TheMan-


Nicolas Benicoeur

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Oct 6, 2003, 12:57:41 AM10/6/03
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> > It was an empty, ex-refugee camp.
> >
> Yes, of course it was, being used as a prayer site, no doubt.

It is curious how Israel always manage to find terrorist training camps and
bomb making factories the very next day after a suicide bombing.


Petzl

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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:48:00 GMT, "Paul Moore" <moorepa#@#rogers.com>
wrote:

Many of the Syrian terrorists captured in Iraq by coalition forces
have been squealing information about them being trained there with
and with Syrian government approval/funding

The UN knows this already

Petzl

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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:00:26 GMT, "TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com>
wrote:

Israel has never admitted to having a nuclear bomb and there have been
no tests ever of a Israeli Nuclear device.

Where is your proof

Saudi Arabia however has nuclear devices bought from the soviet union

Petzl

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That training camp was not really that much of a secret

Why Israel chose to do something about it?

The UN should of early in the year when it was publicly know about.
Syria is on the wrong side of the war on terrorism The UN chooses to
ignor this threat as they always do

Makes me wonder about UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and if he is a
terrorist supporter also

TheMan

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"Petzl" <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message
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Yes they do, weapons inspectors have never been allowed in, but it is widely
known that Israel has nuclear weapons.

-TheMan-


Jacques Guy

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Oct 6, 2003, 6:28:45 PM10/6/03
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Petzl wrote:

> Makes me wonder about UN Secretary General Kofi Annan and if he is a
> terrorist supporter also

Only a supporter of his perks and his pay cheque.

dechucka

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> So, the problem is that you have a group intent of bombing you no matter
> where you are or what you do. You could either submit and die, or take
the
> fight to them. While you are trying to come up with an alternative, more
> and more people are dying.

and will continue to die in your status quo


>
> > > It is clear, by the target choosen for the attack, that there are
people
> > in
> > > Isreal wanting to get along. A jewish/arab owned resturant was
> attacked.
> > > Seams to send a message doesn't it? Hamas is not just targeting Jews,
> but
> > > anyone who gets in their way of a jewish free mid east.
> >
> > there are Isrealis who want to get along just as there are Palastians
but
> > both sides policy is being driven by the extremists
>
> And how do you alter the opinion of an extremist?

I don't know the Isreali extremists seem as intransigent as the palastinian
one, you can't change thier minds but you can isolate them and get the
moderates in control


>
> > > > it really helps that they are busy
> > > > annexing land at a great rate with walls and illegal settlement
> > > >
> > > > > You seriously expect the Jews to sit back and let these "poor"
> people
> > > > carry
> > > > > on killing them without ANY retaliation?
> >
> > no but do you seriously expect the Palistinians to stop fighting for
thier
> > land
>
> Unfortunately for them, it is because of the continuous attacks on the
> Israelis that their full control of their own homeland is many years off.
> Every time the Israelies withdraw, a beefed up suicide attack campaign is
> launched.

They have never withdrawn to where they should be and at the moment they are
annexing more land with their so called security fence


Petzl

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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 05:27:28 GMT, "TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com>
wrote:

>

Rubbish paranoids like you may suspect but you don't know

Mark K

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"Paul Moore" <moorepa#@#rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Because those darned Jewish folk bombed a terrorist training
> camp.

But anti-nonSemitism and genocide are
at the core of their religious teachings, no?


Mark K

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"Jacques Guy" <jg...@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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Are you holy soldier ants at your abuse and slander
game again against anyone who doesn't run to the aid
of your holy ant colony? :-)


Mark K

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"Petzl" <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message
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> Rubbish paranoids like you may suspect but you don't know

But holy deceivers like you know. :-)


Mark K

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"Petzl" <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message
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> Israel has never admitted to having a
> nuclear bomb and there have been
> no tests ever of a Israeli Nuclear device.

Petzl isn't subterfugeing, silence and
denial the holiest of holy traditions?


Mark K

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"me" <fre...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> jews are gods chosen people so we can


> do what we like and we will be right!


Are you implying that *all* Jews are like the
G-d's Chosen slippery, slimey, Nazi a$$hole
of the universe that you appear to be?


yaffaDina1

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> The Israeli's have just attacked Syria, a sovereign nation. That is an act
> of war, and I hope the Arab world pulls together and retaliates against the
> Zionazi's.

What! They've done it before and got beaten, individually and
separately just about every abrab country has gone up against Israel
and got ignominously defeated each and every time. You think the arab
world (whatever *that* is) wants to get shown up AGAIN? Nah! Better
to take the cowards' way and murder babies than unite to go face to
face against Israel and get beaten AGAIN! Hey, I know! Why don't the
Israeli's give any arab soldiers they can find and give them 40
dollars each. LOL
yD

> ... remainder snipped...

name

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"dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > So, the problem is that you have a group intent of bombing you no matter
> > where you are or what you do. You could either submit and die, or take
> the
> > fight to them. While you are trying to come up with an alternative,
more
> > and more people are dying.
>
> and will continue to die in your status quo
> >
> > > > It is clear, by the target choosen for the attack, that there are
> people
> > > in
> > > > Isreal wanting to get along. A jewish/arab owned resturant was
> > attacked.
> > > > Seams to send a message doesn't it? Hamas is not just targeting
Jews,
> > but
> > > > anyone who gets in their way of a jewish free mid east.
> > >
> > > there are Isrealis who want to get along just as there are Palastians
> but
> > > both sides policy is being driven by the extremists
> >
> > And how do you alter the opinion of an extremist?
>
> I don't know the Isreali extremists seem as intransigent as the
palastinian
> one, you can't change thier minds but you can isolate them and get the
> moderates in control

Gets tried each election but the extremists still get in. Why? Because the
continuous bombing won't give the moderates any chance at finding a
solution.

Before any real progress can be made, the bombing has to stop.

> > > > > it really helps that they are busy
> > > > > annexing land at a great rate with walls and illegal settlement
> > > > >
> > > > > > You seriously expect the Jews to sit back and let these "poor"
> > people
> > > > > carry
> > > > > > on killing them without ANY retaliation?
> > >
> > > no but do you seriously expect the Palistinians to stop fighting for
> thier
> > > land
> >
> > Unfortunately for them, it is because of the continuous attacks on the
> > Israelis that their full control of their own homeland is many years
off.
> > Every time the Israelies withdraw, a beefed up suicide attack campaign
is
> > launched.
>
> They have never withdrawn to where they should be and at the moment they
are
> annexing more land with their so called security fence

That is because even a start of a withdrawal triggers renewed bombings.


dechucka

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"name" <na...@name.com> wrote in message
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and why should the Palestinian extremists stop the bombing, illegal
settlements are still being built and Israel is busy annexing more land with
the support of the Israeli extremists


dechucka

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"yaffaDina1" <yaffa...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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and the Isrealis will continue to bury thier dead


Kurt Knoll

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"dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Jews always win they are under American Protection and can do
whatever they want.

Kurt Knoll.
=

dechucka

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"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@uniserve.com> wrote in message
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but they are not winning Israelis are dying on a regular basis in thius war
because the extremists are in control on both sides


Siobhan Medeiros

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"Arved Sandstrom" <asand...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message news:<Xa2gb.88904$PD3.4...@nnrp1.uunet.ca>...
> "Nicolas Benicoeur" <dontspam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:blpv4c$f547o$1...@ID-186693.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > Because those darned Jewish folk bombed a terrorist training
> > > camp.
> >
> > It was an empty, ex-refugee camp.
>
> Who said that? Just curious. The Israelis have shown themselves to have
> excellent intelligence over the years - I'd be more inclined to believe them
> than someone on the Arab side. The Israelis seem to know what building most
> Arab terrorists have their bowel movements in, and when - I doubt that they
> wouldn't know whether or not that "empty ex-refugee camp" was empty or not.
> In any case it would have been so close to Israel that it would have been
> under constant surveillance by various means...you think the Israelis would
> provoke a shitstorm by attacking an empty camp?
>
> AHS

Two words: meaningless publicity stunt to show the gullible voting
Israeli public that they're "doing something" about suicide attacks.
Like this will work.

The Israelis can't stop the bombers. The Palestinians can't stop the
bombers. They'll only stop when they have a reason not to blow
themselves up, that simple. Yet Sharon can't get that simple message
through his head.

Petzl

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On 6 Oct 2003 23:19:17 -0700, s...@netidea.com (Siobhan Medeiros)
wrote:


It is not meaningless. It's also not without justification

However the Palestinian issue is not connected to the justified attack
on Syria and Israel would be justified in amplifying it's attack on
Syria

Palestinians are getting real bad advice continuing their homicide
bombing campaign.

Israel has no case against Palestine and have angered the USa as to
its dealings in and with Palestine.

Palestine would be best gaining the trust of the USa. A possible way
for them to do this is to act as peace troops and law enforcement in
Iraq

dechucka

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snip

> However the Palestinian issue is not connected to the justified attack
> on Syria

so why is Israel attacking Syria


Un Patriote...

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Shouldn't Syria counter-attack by targeting Betar cells around the
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Paul Moore

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"Siobhan Medeiros" <s...@netidea.com> wrote in message
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> The Israelis can't stop the bombers. The Palestinians can't
stop the
> bombers. They'll only stop when they have a reason not to blow
> themselves up, that simple. Yet Sharon can't get that simple
message
> through his head.

Perhaps it's too simple? I have little good to say about Sharon.
However, there are suicidal people in all societies, regardless
of how free and open and successful. There are losers everywhere.
So there will always be people available who are willing to strap
bombs on themselves and go blow themselves up. Hey, if you're
going out, why not go out with a bang? Especially when you're
told you'll become a "martyr" and go immediately to sit next to
God and be given a bunch of virgins to play with. Or in the case
of the female lawyer does she get a bunch of studs? Anyway,
there'll always be there. The trick is to kill the men who supply
the explosives and sweet talk the idiots into going out to commit
murder as their final act.

Paul Moore

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"dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well... someone ought to.

Petzl

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On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:45:31 +1000, "dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Syria has been begging for an attack as a terrorist supporting nation
and most certainly an open threat to not only Israel but many other
nations as well particularly in the region. To zap them again would be
no crime and Israel will have plenty of up front evidence for doing
this

Why Israel has chosen this moment to attack Syria I suspect, is to
take international attention off it's conflict with Palestine?

Petzl

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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 11:00:16 GMT, "Paul Moore" <moorepa#@#rogers.com>
wrote:

>

What I think also and about time another case of UN failure

Mark K

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"Petzl" <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message
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> What I think also and about time another case of UN failure

Yes, Petzl, the enemies of the tribe
are all automatically losers, failures,
stupid and evil.


dechucka

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> What I think also and about time another case of UN failure

I agree they should have given Syria fridge magnets to stop them being
attacked


dechucka

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"Petzl" <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:45:31 +1000, "dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >snip
> >> However the Palestinian issue is not connected to the justified attack
> >> on Syria
> >
> >so why is Israel attacking Syria
> >
> Syria has been begging for an attack as a terrorist supporting nation
> and most certainly an open threat to not only Israel but many other
> nations as well particularly in the region. To zap them again would be
> no crime and Israel will have plenty of up front evidence for doing
> this

apparently they also have WMD which they can launch in 45 minutes and have
been buying nucleor material from Africa. Unfortunately they can not defend
themselves because they don't have J Howards fridge magnets

Tim

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Petzl wrote:

Yes, they should just sit back while the settlers steal their land.

Dez Akin

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"dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<hLkgb.253$Vi3....@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>...

To be sure, the bombings won't stop unless genuine efforts to
understand the Palestinian side are undertaken by the Israeli's; So
probably never.

The problem is quite incurable. You have religeous idelogues on both
sides each claiming to have God's will behind them, and more
importantly, a demographic problem in Palestine.

Much of the occupied territories is heavily slanted towards young men,
who historically have allways been troublemakers, and its even worse
when all these young men have no real future that they can see, no
jobs, no opportunity and constant humiliation by the israeli security
services, so what is left?

The natural inclination is to fight for young men, who don't often see
the bigger strategic picture.

Message has been deleted

Dan Parker

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"Paul Moore" <moorepa#@#rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Siobhan Medeiros" <s...@netidea.com> wrote in message
> news:cffd1965.03100...@posting.google.com...>
> > The Israelis can't stop the bombers. The Palestinians can't
> stop the
> > bombers. They'll only stop when they have a reason not to blow
> > themselves up, that simple. Yet Sharon can't get that simple
> message
> > through his head.
>
> Perhaps it's too simple? I have little good to say about Sharon.
> However, there are suicidal people in all societies, regardless
> of how free and open and successful. There are losers everywhere.

Yeah some lose souls, others less valuable stuff.

dp

Clockmeister

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"dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Petzl" <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message
> news:0k75ov0bi2tg0caig...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:45:31 +1000, "dechucka" <dech...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >snip
> > >> However the Palestinian issue is not connected to the justified
attack
> > >> on Syria
> > >
> > >so why is Israel attacking Syria
> > >
> > Syria has been begging for an attack as a terrorist supporting nation
> > and most certainly an open threat to not only Israel but many other
> > nations as well particularly in the region. To zap them again would be
> > no crime and Israel will have plenty of up front evidence for doing
> > this
>
> apparently they also have WMD which they can launch in 45 minutes and
have
> been buying nucleor material from Africa. Unfortunately they can not
defend
> themselves because they don't have J Howards fridge magnets
> >

Yeah, and the right wing wackos keep believing the same bullshit over and
over again.

Amazing...

Dan Parker

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"Barry OGrady" <godphre...@REMOVEhotmail.THIScom> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:16:50 GMT, "Dan Parker" <mic...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Paul Moore" <moorepa#@#rogers.com> wrote in message
> >news:D0xgb.134453$3r1.1...@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> >>
> >> "Siobhan Medeiros" <s...@netidea.com> wrote in message
> >> news:cffd1965.03100...@posting.google.com...>
> >> > The Israelis can't stop the bombers. The Palestinians can't
> >> stop the
> >> > bombers. They'll only stop when they have a reason not to blow
> >> > themselves up, that simple. Yet Sharon can't get that simple
> >> message
> >> > through his head.
> >>
> >> Perhaps it's too simple? I have little good to say about Sharon.
> >> However, there are suicidal people in all societies, regardless
> >> of how free and open and successful. There are losers everywhere.
> >
> >Yeah some lose souls, others less valuable stuff.
>
> Nothing is less valuable than a soul.

How about a troll?

plonk

dp

>
> >
> >dp
> >
> >> So there will always be people available who are willing to strap
> >> bombs on themselves and go blow themselves up. Hey, if you're
> >> going out, why not go out with a bang? Especially when you're
> >> told you'll become a "martyr" and go immediately to sit next to
> >> God and be given a bunch of virgins to play with. Or in the case
> >> of the female lawyer does she get a bunch of studs? Anyway,
> >> there'll always be there. The trick is to kill the men who supply
> >> the explosives and sweet talk the idiots into going out to commit
> >> murder as their final act.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

> -Barry
> ========
> Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
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> Voicemail/fax number +14136227640


Petzl

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On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 00:41:25 +1000, Barry OGrady
<godphre...@REMOVEhotmail.THIScom> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:16:50 GMT, "Dan Parker" <mic...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>>

>>"Paul Moore" <moorepa#@#rogers.com> wrote in message
>>news:D0xgb.134453$3r1.1...@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
>>>
>>> "Siobhan Medeiros" <s...@netidea.com> wrote in message
>>> news:cffd1965.03100...@posting.google.com...>
>>> > The Israelis can't stop the bombers. The Palestinians can't
>>> stop the
>>> > bombers. They'll only stop when they have a reason not to blow
>>> > themselves up, that simple. Yet Sharon can't get that simple
>>> message
>>> > through his head.
>>>
>>> Perhaps it's too simple? I have little good to say about Sharon.
>>> However, there are suicidal people in all societies, regardless
>>> of how free and open and successful. There are losers everywhere.
>>
>>Yeah some lose souls, others less valuable stuff.
>

>Nothing is less valuable than a soul.

As Muslims apparently do not wish to save themselves in this life

To be saved for the next life it is important Moslems convert to
Christianity

Islam is not a religion that will save a soul (it is a Moon God Cult)

A Moslems best hope is oblivion. Their Prophet Mohammed is waiting in
Purgatory till the end of time, Perhaps they will see him just before
oblivion as evidence of the evil Islam is only about

>>
>>dp
>>
>>> So there will always be people available who are willing to strap
>>> bombs on themselves and go blow themselves up. Hey, if you're
>>> going out, why not go out with a bang? Especially when you're
>>> told you'll become a "martyr" and go immediately to sit next to
>>> God and be given a bunch of virgins to play with. Or in the case
>>> of the female lawyer does she get a bunch of studs? Anyway,
>>> there'll always be there. The trick is to kill the men who supply
>>> the explosives and sweet talk the idiots into going out to commit
>>> murder as their final act.

Mark K

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"Petzl" <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message
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> Islam is not a religion that will
>save a soul (it is a Moon God Cult)

Whereas Judaism is a this-worldly religion
that does not believe in a soul, but focusses
on the supremacy of the tribe.

> A Moslems best hope is oblivion.
> Their Prophet Mohammed is waiting in
> Purgatory till the end of time, Perhaps t
> hey will see him just before
> oblivion as evidence of the evil Islam
> is only about

And because of the tribal focus of Judaism,
Jews judge everybody according to whethe
they are good for the tribe or not.

And those who are not good for the tribe
are evil.

Allen

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Oct 8, 2003, 9:31:32 PM10/8/03
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I don't know who's doing who, but if the US is justified in invading
Iraq ? to stop terrorism, I guess then it is not a big stretch for you
to rationalize the jews trying to stop all the kamikaze attacks.

As a matter of fact if the jews stopper the reprisal attacks, I do not
believe the Palestinians would stop attacking them. So why not keep on
getting an eye for an eye?

All very stupid but then, there you are.

Scotius

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Oct 9, 2003, 10:27:29 PM10/9/03
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You are such a dipshit. Everyone knows the place the Israelis
hit was a terrorist training center. You fucking idiot. Do you think
the Arabs can rail against Israel all the time, train terrorists, and
WHINE to the UN like a little bitch when Israel does something about
it? Of course, you're a neo nazi, so you'd know all about sympathizing
with the "bitch" in the equation, wouldn't you? Ever been in a Texas
prison?


On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 18:32:28 GMT, "TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com>
wrote:

>The Israeli's have just attacked Syria, a sovereign nation. That is an act
>of war, and I hope the Arab world pulls together and retaliates against the
>Zionazi's.
>

>I hope the Syrians and Iranians get their act together to build weapons of
>mass destruction to defend themselves from these Zionazi aggressors.
>
>http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/05/1065292475370.html
>
>Israel took its battle against Palestinian militants to Syria yesterday,
>striking deep inside Syrian territory for the first time in decades, after a
>suicide bomber killed 19 people in an Israeli restaurant.
>
>Israeli security sources and Palestinian sources in Beirut said Israeli
>warplanes carried out the attack near the capital, Damascus.
>
>"The Israel Defence Forces operated last night deep inside Syrian territory
>and hit a training base used by terror groups, including Islamic Jihad," the
>army said, without giving details of the forces used in the operation.
>
>Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing on Saturday
>that killed 19 people in a beach restaurant in the northern Israeli city of
>Haifa.
>
>The raid hit "an abandoned training camp" that belonged to the Popular Front
>for the Liberation of Palestine in the Ain Saheb area, about 20 kilometres
>north-west of Damascus, a Palestinian source said.
>
>Syrian officials were not immediately available for comment on the surprise
>Israeli move, made against the backdrop of speculation that Israel would
>target the Palestinian President, Yasser Arafat, whom it has threatened to
>exile.
>
>
>
>
>"The Islamic Jihad, like other terror organisations . . . enjoys the support
>and backing of countries in the region - foremost Iran and Syria," the
>Israeli Army said.
>
>"Syria is a country that sponsors terror and constantly tries to sabotage
>any attempt to achieve quiet and stability in the region."
>
>An Islamic Jihad official in Beirut told the Al-Jazeera television network
>there were no training camps in Syria.
>
>But an Israeli security source said Islamic Jihad and Hamas members are
>trained in the use of explosives and other ordnance at the Ain Saheb camp
>and some return to the West Bank and Gaza Strip to establish "operational
>terrorist networks". The source said the camp was sponsored by Iran.
>
>The United States has been pressing Syria to meet a long-standing demand by
>Israel, its key regional ally, to close offices of radical Palestinian
>groups.
>
>Syria-based Palestinian groups have been keeping a low profile to reduce
>pressure on their hosts, who say the offices merely perform media functions.
>
>The Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, said last week that Damascus was
>taking precautions "against every negative matter that Israel could think
>of" following media reports that Israel might bomb leaders of Palestinian
>militant groups in Syria and Lebanon.
>
>Israeli warplanes have hit Syrian military targets in Lebanon in recent
>years, but Israeli military commentators said it was the first time since
>the 1973 Middle East war that they have struck deep inside Syria.
>
>Hours after the Haifa bombing, Israeli helicopters fired missiles at what
>the army said was a weapons depot belonging to the militant group Hamas in
>the Gaza Strip. No one was hurt.
>
>Israeli forces also blocked the Gaza Strip's main north-south highway and
>its coastal road to Palestinian traffic, a measure it has taken after past
>suicide bombings and an edict Palestinians condemn as collective punishment.
>
>The bomber struck on the Jewish Sabbath, detonating her explosives on
>Haifa's popular coastal promenade, an area beside the beach crowded with
>people. At least five children were among the dead.
>
>The bombing at the Maxim restaurant, frequented by Jews and Arabs, triggered
>fresh calls in Israel to exile Mr Arafat. But an Israeli Government source
>said that no decision on Mr Arafat was imminent.
>
>In Washington, President George Bush condemned the bombing as "despicable"
>and omitted any warning to Israel about constraining its response.
>
>Reuters, The Washington Post
>
>

Mark K

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"Scotius" <yode...@mnsi.net> wrote in message
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> You are such a dipshit. Everyone
> knows the place the Israelis
> hit was a terrorist training center.
> You fucking idiot. Do you think
> the Arabs can rail against Israel
> all the time, train terrorists, and
> WHINE to the UN like a little
> bitch when Israel does something about
> it? Of course, you're a neo nazi,
> so you'd know all about sympathizing
> with the "bitch" in the equation,
> wouldn't you? Ever been in a Texas prison?


Jeez and Moshe, Scotius, you are really
allowing you primitive-tribal emotions to run amok!

Or is the above a sample of the fabled
tribal intellect?

Or the ramblings of still another holy,
hypocritical zionazi?


Siobhan Medeiros

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Petzl <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message news:<a4u4ovg7j5imc441s...@4ax.com>...

If that had really been a "Palestinian terrorist training camp", don't
you think there would have been a few casualities when they bombed it?
But there wasn't. Therefore, it was just a bunch of empty, unused
buildings and the whole raid was only good for a political show.

> However the Palestinian issue is not connected to the justified attack
> on Syria and Israel would be justified in amplifying it's attack on
> Syria

Not without actual proof. I'm not talking about Bush's idea of
"proof" either.

>
> Palestinians are getting real bad advice continuing their homicide
> bombing campaign.

And what do you call firing missiles into crowded streets? Or
dropping bombs on apartment complexes jam-packed with innocent people?
Or punishing people for being related to or living next to a suicide
bomber?

>
> Israel has no case against Palestine and have angered the USa as to
> its dealings in and with Palestine.
>
> Palestine would be best gaining the trust of the USa. A possible way
> for them to do this is to act as peace troops and law enforcement in
> Iraq
>

You have got to be kidding. So you're basically saying they have to
sell out to get any respectability? That's almost as stupid as saying
they have to start a civil war.


>
> Petzl

Siobhan Medeiros

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ANd these two idiots are the primary reason why the "let's wall them
up and let the bastards kill each other off" solution is increasingly
appealling.

Mark K

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"Siobhan Medeiros" <s...@netidea.com> wrote in message
news:cffd1965.03100...@posting.google.com...

> > > Islam is not a religion that will


> > >save a soul (it is a Moon God Cult)

> > Whereas Judaism is a this-worldly religion
> > that does not believe in a soul, but focusses
> > on the supremacy of the tribe.

> > > A Moslems best hope is oblivion.
> > > Their Prophet Mohammed is waiting in
> > > Purgatory till the end of time, Perhaps t
> > > hey will see him just before
> > > oblivion as evidence of the evil Islam
> > > is only about

> > And because of the tribal focus of Judaism,

> > Jews judge everybody according to whether


> > they are good for the tribe or not.
> > And those who are not good for the tribe
> > are evil.

> ANd these two idiots are the primary reason
> why the "let's wall them up and let the bastards
> kill each other off" solution is increasingly
> appealling.

But you don't have that choice.
Because one of these groups has
you, your political systems,
and your media by the gonads.


Kurt Knoll

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Oct 10, 2003, 10:49:31 AM10/10/03
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"Scotius" <yode...@mnsi.net> wrote in message
news:o56covomj5ptd95cp...@4ax.com...

How do you know it is true or do believe the Jews and Americans are
always telling as the Truth.

Kurt Knoll.
=

AD C

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Oct 11, 2003, 12:49:18 PM10/11/03
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nobody wrote:

> In article <0tZfb.137729$bo1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,


> "TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com> wrote:
>
>
>>The Israeli's have just attacked Syria, a sovereign nation. That is an act
>>of war, and I hope the Arab world pulls together and retaliates against the
>>Zionazi's.
>
>
>

> So do I. It will be fun watching the ayrab world get its ass kicked yet
> again.

Notice how Israel only attacks countries it knows it can. I would love
it to try and attack the u.K.


nobody

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Oct 11, 2003, 3:24:09 PM10/11/03
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In article <bm9cae$847$2...@hercules.btinternet.com>,
AD C <graph...@y.a.h.o.o.co.uk> wrote:


Why would it want to? Boy, are you stupid!

AD C

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nobody wrote:


>>>
>>>So do I. It will be fun watching the ayrab world get its ass kicked yet
>>>again.
>>
>>Notice how Israel only attacks countries it knows it can. I would love
>>it to try and attack the u.K.
>
>
>
> Why would it want to? Boy, are you stupid!

Why not? I expect we got terrorists that want to attack Israel here.
As I said, Israel picks on the weak.

nobody

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Oct 11, 2003, 9:38:55 PM10/11/03
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In article <bm9so4$568$3...@hercules.btinternet.com>,
AD C <graph...@y.a.h.o.o.co.uk> wrote:


I expect you're as stupid as they come. Let us know when terrorists
from England start blowing themselves up in Israel. On the other hand
lots of Irish are kicking your butt in occupied Ireland. Don't you
think you should spend more time worrying about your illegal occupation
of Ireland than whining about the middle east, which you once controlled
but also royally fucked up, just like you did with every other part of
your lost "empire"? Hahahahahahaha.

Petzl

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Oct 11, 2003, 11:00:49 PM10/11/03
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On 10 Oct 2003 18:38:46 GMT, ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
wrote:

>Petzl (petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT) writes:
>>>> Israel has never admitted to having a nuclear bomb and there have been
>>>> no tests ever of a Israeli Nuclear device.
>
>>>Yes they do, weapons inspectors have never been allowed in, but it is widely
>>> known that Israel has nuclear weapons.
>>>-TheMan-
>
>Petzl (petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT) writes:
>> Rubbish paranoids like you may suspect but you don't know
>
>(K): You don't have to be 'paranoid' to know that Israel has one of the
>largest - if not THE largest - number of nuclear weapons on the face of
>this planet. The fact that "they haven't admitted to it" seems just about
>right - for Israel - the 'other U.S. country'.
>_______________________________
>
[snip}
>
> http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/farr.htm

Still no mention of any Israeli nuclear weapons test?
And still no proof other than anti-Israel speculation

Any countries missing

Siobhan Medeiros

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Oct 12, 2003, 2:58:10 AM10/12/03
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Petzl <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message news:<0hghov4hijgjds613...@4ax.com>...

> On 10 Oct 2003 18:38:46 GMT, ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
> wrote:
>
> >Petzl (petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT) writes:
> >>>> Israel has never admitted to having a nuclear bomb and there have been
> >>>> no tests ever of a Israeli Nuclear device.
>
> >>>Yes they do, weapons inspectors have never been allowed in, but it is widely
> >>> known that Israel has nuclear weapons.
> >>>-TheMan-
> >
> >Petzl (petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT) writes:
> >> Rubbish paranoids like you may suspect but you don't know
> >
> >(K): You don't have to be 'paranoid' to know that Israel has one of the
> >largest - if not THE largest - number of nuclear weapons on the face of
> >this planet. The fact that "they haven't admitted to it" seems just about
> >right - for Israel - the 'other U.S. country'.
> >_______________________________
> >
> [snip}
> >
> > http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/farr.htm
>
> Still no mention of any Israeli nuclear weapons test?
> And still no proof other than anti-Israel speculation
>
> Any countries missing
>
>
> Petzl


Idiot. Israel's nuclear weapons are common knowledge. They were even
caught supplying nuclear technology to apartheid South Africa.

Petzl

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Oct 12, 2003, 3:27:33 AM10/12/03
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On 11 Oct 2003 23:58:10 -0700, s...@netidea.com (Siobhan Medeiros)
wrote:

>Petzl <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message news:<0hghov4hijgjds613...@4ax.com>...

Help if you provided PROOF.

Nelson Mandela for instance has not mentioned South Africa's alleged
Israeli Nuclear military technology

AD C

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Oct 12, 2003, 5:17:23 AM10/12/03
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nobody wrote:


>>Why not? I expect we got terrorists that want to attack Israel here.
>
>
>
> I expect you're as stupid as they come. Let us know when terrorists
> from England start blowing themselves up in Israel. On the other hand

did we not have people from this country go over and fought against our
country with the Talaban?

> lots of Irish are kicking your butt in occupied Ireland. Don't you
> think you should spend more time worrying about your illegal occupation
> of Ireland than whining about the middle east, which you once controlled

I agree, it is about time we got out of Ireland, it is costing us millions.


> but also royally fucked up, just like you did with every other part of
> your lost "empire"? Hahahahahahaha.

Who is worried about an Empire, apart from Germany who wants to control
the whole of Europe and the U.s who wants to control the rest of the world.


BTov

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Oct 12, 2003, 7:22:22 AM10/12/03
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"Mark K" <se...@server.net> wrote in message news:<7byhb.443633$2x.1...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>...

> "Siobhan Medeiros" <s...@netidea.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > Islam is not a religion that will
> > > >save a soul (it is a Moon God Cult)
>
> > > Whereas Judaism is a this-worldly religion
> > > that does not believe in a soul, but focusses
> > > on the supremacy of the tribe.

ahh! bullshit..

> > > > A Moslems best hope is oblivion.
> > > > Their Prophet Mohammed is waiting in
> > > > Purgatory till the end of time, Perhaps t
> > > > hey will see him just before
> > > > oblivion as evidence of the evil Islam
> > > > is only about
>
> > > And because of the tribal focus of Judaism,
> > > Jews judge everybody according to whether
> > > they are good for the tribe or not.
> > > And those who are not good for the tribe
> > > are evil.

what good are YOU for? LOL
nothing apparently..

> > ANd these two idiots are the primary reason
> > why the "let's wall them up and let the bastards
> > kill each other off" solution is increasingly
> > appealling.
>
> But you don't have that choice.
> Because one of these groups has
> you, your political systems,
> and your media by the gonads.

ahhh! revolutionary drivel.. ;L

BTov

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Oct 12, 2003, 7:26:30 AM10/12/03
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"Mark K" <se...@server.net> wrote in message news:<7byhb.443633$2x.1...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>...

> "Siobhan Medeiros" <s...@netidea.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > Islam is not a religion that will
> > > >save a soul (it is a Moon God Cult)
>
> > > Whereas Judaism is a this-worldly religion
> > > that does not believe in a soul, but focusses
> > > on the supremacy of the tribe.

ahh! bullshit..

> > > > A Moslems best hope is oblivion.
> > > > Their Prophet Mohammed is waiting in
> > > > Purgatory till the end of time, Perhaps t
> > > > hey will see him just before
> > > > oblivion as evidence of the evil Islam
> > > > is only about
>
> > > And because of the tribal focus of Judaism,
> > > Jews judge everybody according to whether
> > > they are good for the tribe or not.
> > > And those who are not good for the tribe
> > > are evil.

what good are YOU for? LOL
nothing apparently..

> > ANd these two idiots are the primary reason


> > why the "let's wall them up and let the bastards
> > kill each other off" solution is increasingly
> > appealling.
>
> But you don't have that choice.
> Because one of these groups has
> you, your political systems,
> and your media by the gonads.

ahhh! revolutionary drivel.. ;L

BTov

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Oct 12, 2003, 7:46:04 AM10/12/03
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"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@uniserve.com> wrote in message news:<10657974...@critter.monarch.net>...

> How do you know it is true or do believe the Jews and Americans are
> always telling as the Truth.

by comparing them with arabs..
;L

BTov

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Oct 12, 2003, 7:50:23 AM10/12/03
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"Mark K" <se...@server.net> wrote in message news:<rCqhb.442809$2x.1...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>...

> "Scotius" <yode...@mnsi.net> wrote in message
> > You are such a dipshit. Everyone
> > knows the place the Israelis
> > hit was a terrorist training center.
> > You fucking idiot. Do you think
> > the Arabs can rail against Israel
> > all the time, train terrorists, and
> > WHINE to the UN like a little
> > bitch when Israel does something about
> > it? Of course, you're a neo nazi,
> > so you'd know all about sympathizing
> > with the "bitch" in the equation,
> > wouldn't you? Ever been in a Texas prison?
>
> Jeez and Moshe, Scotius, you are really
> allowing you primitive-tribal emotions to run amok!
> Or is the above a sample of the fabled
> tribal intellect?

if the samples of the fabled tribal intellect weren't present
palistanians wouldn't want to grab the `tribal' territory lol

BTov

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"Mark K" <se...@server.net> wrote in message news:<BT3gb.685906$YN5.545085@sccrnsc01>...
> "me" <fre...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> > jews are gods chosen people so we can
> > do what we like and we will be right!
>
> And the US, UK and Australia are your whores.

nah
uk's an arab whore..you c'n kipit ;L

BTov

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Oct 12, 2003, 7:55:18 AM10/12/03
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"Mark K" <se...@server.net> wrote in message news:<C_3gb.47673$%h1.32373@sccrnsc02>...

> "me" <fre...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> > jews are gods chosen people so we can
> > do what we like and we will be right!
>
> One of the few primitive-tribesmen who is honest about
> his Nazi-like pride in belonging to the Master Race.

if you had a life & a job you'd be a master race too LOL

Siobhan Medeiros

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Oct 13, 2003, 4:41:03 AM10/13/03
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Petzl <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message news:<o40iov8iebgbbkrid...@4ax.com>...

Plenty of proof in the above link, if you bothered to read it. And
no, you don't need a nuclear test to provide "proof". You actually
think that India produced nukes a week after Pakistan did?

>
> Nelson Mandela for instance has not mentioned South Africa's alleged
> Israeli Nuclear military technology
>
>

Yeah, Nelson Mandela was such a respected confidant of the APARTHEID
government. Moron.


>
>
> Petzl

Petzl

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Oct 13, 2003, 7:46:09 AM10/13/03
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On 13 Oct 2003 01:41:03 -0700, s...@netidea.com (Siobhan Medeiros)
wrote:

I read the link to the supposition

>> Nelson Mandela for instance has not mentioned South Africa's alleged
>> Israeli Nuclear military technology
>>
>>
>
>Yeah, Nelson Mandela was such a respected confidant of the APARTHEID
>government. Moron.
>

so you think that even after Mandela became president and Israeli
supplied Nuclear weapons are hidden in South Africa from its
government?


One Country to be known to be testing non air breathing rockets in
Africa at time is/was (formally West) Germany.

Siobhan Medeiros

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Oct 16, 2003, 2:27:09 AM10/16/03
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Petzl <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message news:<o13lovsu14gqph7d4...@4ax.com>...

Then my suggestion is you call your fourth-grade teacher and ask for a
refresher course, because you desperately need a refresher course if
you can't see any "proof" in the above link.

> >> Nelson Mandela for instance has not mentioned South Africa's alleged
> >> Israeli Nuclear military technology
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yeah, Nelson Mandela was such a respected confidant of the APARTHEID
> >government. Moron.
> >
>
> so you think that even after Mandela became president and Israeli
> supplied Nuclear weapons are hidden in South Africa from its
> government?
>

Better make that call to your teacher. I said Israel gave S.A.
nuclear TECHNOLOGY, not weapons but rather the ability to make their
own. Since Mandela got in, he's come clean and now South Africa is
fully open and compliant with international regulations.

>
> One Country to be known to be testing non air breathing rockets in
> Africa at time is/was (formally West) Germany.
>

And this has to do with anything how?

Moron.

Petzl

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Oct 16, 2003, 5:50:37 AM10/16/03
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On 15 Oct 2003 23:27:09 -0700, s...@netidea.com (Siobhan Medeiros)
wrote:

No proof there

>> >> Nelson Mandela for instance has not mentioned South Africa's alleged
>> >> Israeli Nuclear military technology
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Yeah, Nelson Mandela was such a respected confidant of the APARTHEID
>> >government. Moron.
>> >
>>
>> so you think that even after Mandela became president and Israeli
>> supplied Nuclear weapons are hidden in South Africa from its
>> government?

That's what you imply about Israel

>Better make that call to your teacher. I said Israel gave S.A.
>nuclear TECHNOLOGY, not weapons but rather the ability to make their
>own. Since Mandela got in, he's come clean and now South Africa is
>fully open and compliant with international regulations.
>

Has he; You have proof of South Africa being fully compliant

>> One Country to be known to be testing non air breathing rockets in
>> Africa at time is/was (formally West) Germany.
>>
>
>And this has to do with anything how?
>
>Moron.

Mr Moron were just pointing out that Germany may also have nuclear
weapons also (but I have as much proof of this as you do about Israel)

Petzl

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"Petzl" <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message
news:0hghov4hijgjds613...@4ax.com...

> On 10 Oct 2003 18:38:46 GMT, ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
> wrote:
>
> >Petzl (petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT) writes:
> >>>> Israel has never admitted to having a nuclear bomb and there have
been
> >>>> no tests ever of a Israeli Nuclear device.
> >
> >>>Yes they do, weapons inspectors have never been allowed in, but it is
widely
> >>> known that Israel has nuclear weapons.
> >>>-TheMan-
> >
> >Petzl (petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT) writes:
> >> Rubbish paranoids like you may suspect but you don't know
> >
> >(K): You don't have to be 'paranoid' to know that Israel has one of the
> >largest - if not THE largest - number of nuclear weapons on the face of
> >this planet. The fact that "they haven't admitted to it" seems just
about
> >right - for Israel - the 'other U.S. country'.
> >_______________________________
> >
> [snip}
> >
> > http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/farr.htm
>
> Still no mention of any Israeli nuclear weapons test?
> And still no proof other than anti-Israel speculation
>


Mordechai Vanunu

Jackeroo

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Yeah old Tony ' i'll get Pauline' Abbott says we are part of Israel, and he
has them vet hie pspers.
Well tony whats your answer to Australia and Israel?

Are they Australians or are they Israelis? We really should have them
declare if they are Australian citizens or Foreign residents?
Do they have the bomb?
To help the spedulation along.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/606092.asp?0si=&cp1=1
No doubt they do all made up and ready to go compliments of the guy above
who sees nothing wrong in telling his former neighbours, America or Israel?
I'll take Israel every time.

And why is America committed to Israel? It's a no account bunch of nazis
running round in tanks, $600000000.00 gunships shooting $150000.00 rockets
at kids throwing stones, from people to poor to have tap water laid on.

Financed thamselves on pretty sus claims of what happened to them during
the war considering their actions against neighbours, peace activists and
anybody else who s not Jewish, and to any Jews that oppose their grasping
and cruel ways.

"Emmanuel Goldstein" <psilo...@cubensis.org> wrote in message
news:3fb57356$1...@news.comindico.com.au...

E. Barry Bruyea

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Nov 15, 2003, 6:41:01 AM11/15/03
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:29:11 GMT, "Emmanuel Goldstein"
<psilo...@cubensis.org> wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT> wrote in message
>news:0hghov4hijgjds613...@4ax.com...
>> On 10 Oct 2003 18:38:46 GMT, ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Petzl (petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT) writes:
>> >>>> Israel has never admitted to having a nuclear bomb and there have
>been
>> >>>> no tests ever of a Israeli Nuclear device.
>> >
>> >>>Yes they do, weapons inspectors have never been allowed in, but it is
>widely
>> >>> known that Israel has nuclear weapons.
>> >>>-TheMan-
>> >
>> >Petzl (petzl...@SpAmCoP.NeT) writes:
>> >> Rubbish paranoids like you may suspect but you don't know
>> >
>> >(K): You don't have to be 'paranoid' to know that Israel has one of the
>> >largest - if not THE largest - number of nuclear weapons on the face of
>> >this planet. The fact that "they haven't admitted to it" seems just
>about
>> >right - for Israel - the 'other U.S. country'.

"One of the largest?" Just how large, KKK? Close to the U.S. or
Russia? France? The U.K.? China? India? Pakistan? I guess if they
are at the bottom of the list, it would still be 'one of the largest',
right? I just love your mindstorm word games. I guess using your
logic, Canada must have 'one of the largest' military forces in the
world, Right?

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