Most Americans are fucking retards - The Proof revealed
TheMan
complete absurd to the normal foreigner, Americans believe in like gospel.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr031219.asp
Was Hussein Personally Involved in the Sept. 11 Terrorist Attacks?
There has been an increase in the number of Americans who feel that Hussein
was personally involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, from 43% in
September to 53% today. The level of agreement with this supposition is now
similar to what it was in March of this year and in August 2002, when the
question was first asked this way. The drop in September may have been a
reaction to President Bush's public statement that Hussein was probably not
involved in the attacks.
Do you think Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11th
terrorist attacks, or not?
Yes,
was involved
No,
was not
No
opinion
%
%
%
2003 Dec 15-16 ^
53
42
5
2003 Sep 19-21
43
50
7
2003 Mar 14-15 ^
51
41
8
2002 Aug 19-21 ^
53
34
13
^
Asked of a half sample.
lsj7
> http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr031219.asp
>
> Was Hussein Personally Involved in the Sept. 11 Terrorist Attacks?
>
> There has been an increase in the number of Americans who feel that
> Hussein was personally involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks,
> from 43% in September to 53% today. >
It does not take a gallup poll to know that most Americans are dimwits when
it comes to information about the world at large and how things work in the
political arena. This is the segment of the population that run-amok
politicians--Bush, for example, and lobby-sucking congressional
members--pander to with their simple minded targeted propaganda and flag
waving tactics. These politicians realize people want to believe in
something bigger than themselves and the professional politicians and
agendanistas see to it that these dummies have something to believe in that
coincides with lobbyist goals and business greed and neo-con wants.
--
lsj7
It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you
can fool enough of them to rule a large country.
________will durant
Dire Wolf
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>
> It does not take a gallup poll to know that most Americans are dimwits
when
> it comes to information about the world at large and how things work in
the
> political arena.
>
LOL. Well actually, for Americans, it DOES take a gallup poll.
Besq
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> I'm sure most of them think Homer Simpson is "normal". Something that
seems
> complete absurd to the normal foreigner, Americans believe in like gospel.
Hey! Its the economy stupid! War is good for the economy.
Serge
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>
> Something that seems complete absurd to the normal
> foreigner, Americans believe in like gospel.
>
> http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr031219.asp
>
> Was Hussein Personally Involved in the Sept. 11 Terrorist
> Attacks?
>
> There has been an increase in the number of Americans who
> feel that Hussein was personally involved in the Sept. 11
> terrorist attacks, from 43% in September to 53% today.
Americans are without doubt, the most ignorant people on
Earth.
I was in a gallery in Florence a few years ago discussing a work
of art by Michelangelo with my wife and engaged in
conversation with a wank, who, on finding I was an Australian,
asked "You all speak American in Australia?"
Fair dinkum, they're a fucking embarrasement.
Apart from the majority of these nuerone-defficient peasants
beleiving Saddam was involved in 9/11, 25%, yes 25 fucking
percent still believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth.
And I'm being deadly serious.
Serge.
hsn...@nospam.com
You mean the type of people that make these sorts of mistakes?
beleiving
defficient
dinkum
embarrasement
nuerone
Pot, kettle, black ....
Serge
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> Serge wrote:
> > "TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com> wrote in message
> > news:vnPEb.58869$aT.5...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> >>I'm sure most of them think Homer Simpson is "normal".
> >>Something that seems complete absurd to the normal
> >>foreigner, Americans believe in like gospel.
> >>
> >>http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr031219.asp
> >>
> >>Was Hussein Personally Involved in the Sept. 11 Terrorist
> >>Attacks?
> >>
> >>There has been an increase in the number of Americans
> >>who feel that Hussein was personally involved in the
> >>Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, from 43% in September to 53%
> >>today.
> >
> >
> >
> > Americans are without doubt, the most ignorant people on
> > Earth.
> >
> > I was in a gallery in Florence a few years ago discussing a
> > work of art by Michelangelo with my wife and engaged in
> > conversation with a wank, who, on finding I was an
> > Australian, asked "You all speak American in Australia?"
> >
> >
> > Apart from the majority of these neurone-deficient peasants
> > believing Saddam was involved in 9/11, 25%, yes 25
> > fucking percent still believe that the Sun revolves around
> > the Earth.
> >
> > And I'm being deadly serious.
> >
> > Serge.
> >
>
> You mean the type of people that make these sorts of
> mistakes?
>
>
> beleiving
> defficient
> dinkum
> embarrasement
> nuerone
>
> Pot, kettle, black ....
A spelling flame!
BWHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This fuckwit would *have* to be Wank wouldn't he?
Cy Coe
Imagine substituting any other nationality for Americans in these
posts. You leftists are just as good at hatemongering as anyone on
the right, but are much better at being hypocrites.
Fuck you both!
Cy
Bullock
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Bullock
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>
> "
> Americans are without doubt, the most ignorant people on
> Earth.
>
> I was in a gallery in Florence a few years ago discussing a work
> of art by Michelangelo with my wife and engaged in
> conversation with a wank, who, on finding I was an Australian,
> asked "You all speak American in Australia?"
Everybody has these bullshit stories to tell and the truth is that most of
them are fabricated by idiots such as yourself that need to build upon or
equate to last one that you heard.
Don Wagner
some.
Don
Andy Weaks
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
~Mark Twain
Correct spelling, indeed, is one of the arts that are far more
esteemed by schoolma'ams than by practical men, neck-deep in the heat
and agony of the world. ~Henry Louis Mencken, The American Language
Correct English is the slang of prigs who write history and essays.
~George Eliot
E. Barry Bruyea
But they're damn good at. Their PR machine was very successful during
the 20th Century. The have succeeded in making Hitler the bad guy of
the 20th Century (which, he certainly was) and ignored the massive
crimes of Stalin and the Soviet Union. Just the other night I watched
a program on the Spanish Civil War, which detailed Franco's crimes and
ignored the mass executions of teachers, clerics, business men and
intellectuals that were carried out as routine by the 'Republicans'.
The 'Right' has to learn how to be better at public relations.
Mike Wilcox
This one is true, I was at the tower of London waiting in line to exchange my
funds into pounds and the Texan way in front of me was causing a scene. He did
not believe the pound could be worth more than the American dollar and was
yelling at the staff. He wondered loud enough for everyone to hear " how can
such a shitty little country have money worth more than than the American
dollar". How this man could make plans to fly half way around the world and
not check things like currency exchange is either stupidity or arrogance take
your pick.
--
Mike Wilcox
Salad
God is unsure how many time America's GOP need to be reincarnated until they
achive a level enlightenment.
George W Bush
Are you saying that the American economy would be even deeper in the
toilet, if not for dubya's ill conceived war. As best as I can see
the economic benefits of war are not spreading past a small group in
dubyastan.
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The Finger
The Aussie has a point. It is clear that there is not connection between
Hussein and Al Qaeda. That group stated in Saudi Arabia. THE US has been
in Iraq for months and not found a single WMD. Wasn't that the reason we
invaded Iraq in the fist place?
netvegetable
> You mean the type of people that make these sorts of mistakes?
>
>
> beleiving
> defficient
> dinkum
> embarrasement
> nuerone
>
> Pot, kettle, black ....
Well ok......
On one end of the stupidity scale we have spelling mistakes.
On the other end we have invading the wrong country, with a reconstruction
plan that could have been written on the back of a beer coaster.
This little whoopsy, that was supposed to cost the generous American
taxpayer $1.7bn has ended up costing these dickheads $80bn (so far!), not
to mention the cost in lives.
The tragi-comically pathetic thing is, the original justification for this
farce was to prevent Saddam using WMDs. Do you remember that? There was a
"real" and "imminent" threat.
Now that they haven't found any, their manchild President is
retrospectively changed that to a "theoretical" "real" and "imminent"
threat, and the justification into "liberating the Iraqi people". And the
stats show that his tribe of retards are just lapping it up.
Talk about buying a bridge in San Francisco!
--
http://politicsoz.0catch.com
to email me remove the word "NOT" from my addy
"..... I think what has kept your country safe and sane,
relatively, is that you have an ethic we don't have in America, which
is that if one person is hurting, we're all hurting."
Michael Moore
netvegetable
> The Aussie has a point. It is clear that there is not connection between
> Hussein and Al Qaeda. That group stated in Saudi Arabia. THE US has been
> in Iraq for months and not found a single WMD. Wasn't that the reason we
> invaded Iraq in the fist place?
Well first you invaded Iraq to prevent terrorism, when you should have
invaded Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
Now it's that you invaded Iraq to bring democracy, when you should have
invaded China.
dechucka
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> "Dire Wolf" <nom...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > "lsj7" <modus_...@ifthenbut.coma> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > It does not take a gallup poll to know that most Americans are dimwits
> > when
> > > it comes to information about the world at large and how things work
in
> > the
> > > political arena.
> > >
> >
> > LOL. Well actually, for Americans, it DOES take a gallup poll.
>
> Imagine substituting any other nationality for Americans in these
> posts.
I certainly can but you would also need to change the results
Ivan Satori
> On 20 Dec 2003 07:43:05 -0800, cy...@hotmail.com (Cy Coe) wrote:
> >"Dire Wolf" <nom...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<vGQEb.31684$8Y4.4...@read2.cgocable.net>...
> >> "lsj7" <modus_...@ifthenbut.coma> wrote in message
> >> news:f%PEb.5647$xB5....@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> >> > It does not take a gallup poll to know that most Americans are dimwits
> when
> >> > it comes to information about the world at large and how things work in
> the
> >> > political arena.
> >> LOL. Well actually, for Americans, it DOES take a gallup poll.
> >Imagine substituting any other nationality for Americans in these
> >posts. You leftists are just as good at hatemongering as anyone on
> >the right, but are much better at being hypocrites.
> >Fuck you both!
> the 20th Century. The have succeeded in making Hitler the bad guy of
> the 20th Century (which, he certainly was) and ignored the massive
> crimes of Stalin and the Soviet Union. Just the other night I watched
> a program on the Spanish Civil War, which detailed Franco's crimes and
> ignored the mass executions of teachers, clerics, business men and
> intellectuals that were carried out as routine by the 'Republicans'.
> The 'Right' has to learn how to be better at public relations.
They would make criminals out of Zundel and Keegstra (wretched souls
but hardly dangerous - 50 years after the events), they would
grudgingly admit there was something not entirely cosher about
Durranty's reporting - but no need to take him from the Pullitzer
pantheon, and nobody would touch Trudeau's denial of twenty million
Chinese starved to death (and maybe as much as forty million) - a
denial delivered at the time when people were still dying by the
thousands a day.
Now, they even want to name a museum for human rights - human rights
of all things, for crying out loud! - named after Trudeau. If they do,
Duranty should have there his own pavillion, and Zundel and Keegstra
each at least a wall dedicated to them!
Ivan Satori
Just that somebody who feels the need to brag about discussing work of
art by Michelangelo in a gallery in Florence with his wife, all while
peppering his chauvinist speech with expletives, doesn't strike me as
a typical example of a practical man, neck-deep in the heat and agony
of the world.
More like a poseur with an inferiority complex.
It's one thing to make spelling mistakes, it's another thing to use
big words without knowing how to spell them, and it's another thing
still to make spelling mistakes in big words while claiming
intellectual superiority over an entire nation.
dechucka
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> 'Serge' farted out:
> >
> >Americans are without doubt, the most ignorant people on
> >Earth.
> >
> >I was in a gallery in Florence a few years ago discussing a work
> >of art by Michelangelo with my wife and engaged in
> >conversation with a wank, who, on finding I was an Australian,
> >asked "You all speak American in Australia?"
> >
> >Fair dinkum, they're a fucking embarrasement.
> >
> >Apart from the majority of these nuerone-defficient peasants
> >beleiving Saddam was involved in 9/11, 25%, yes 25 fucking
> >percent still believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth.
> >
> >And I'm being deadly serious.
> >
> >Serge.
> >
>
> Shut up, Aussie.
Great debating style there, I see you have address his main points and
rebutted them with a witty but perceptive reply
ralph
wrote:
>I'm sure most of them think Homer Simpson is "normal". Something that seems
>complete absurd to the normal foreigner, Americans believe in like gospel.
>
Americans have Homer Simpson, Australians have Pauline Hanson.
The scary thing is that Pauline is real and a some Australian actually
voted for her. So tell us who are the retards again? :P
Stan Schmenge
"ralph" <rste...@no.geocities.spam.com> wrote in message
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Errm.
(from Simpson's Eh?) http://ccr.ptbcanadian.com/simpsons/articles.htm
"Update (June 2, 2003): After Matt Groening stated his father, Homer
Groening, was likely from Winnipeg, the city of Winnipeg declared Homer
Simpsons and honorary Winnipegger on May 30, 2003. Although it has now been
revealed that Homer Groening is more likely to hail from Main Centre,
Saskatchewan it didn't have an effect on the 300 some people who attended
the ceremony. "
Stan Schmenge
Err!
(from Simpsons Eh?) http://ccr.ptbcanadian.com/simpsons/articles.htm
"In Montreal for a performance of The Simpsons In the Flesh stage show at
the Just for Laughs comedy festival, the shows creator Matt Groening noted
Thursday his dad was born in Canada. Homer being named after Groening's
father, so what does where does this lead Homer?
"That would make Homer Simpson a Canadian," Groening said in an interview.
"I hope Canadians won't hold it against the show now that they know.
Not all too surprising, as one fan noted, "Homer eats foods commonly
associated with Canada: donuts, beer, bacon, and has been know to have a
glass of maple syrup for breakfast.".
Update (June 2, 2003): After Matt Groening stated his father, Homer
Groening, was likely from Winnipeg, the city of Winnipeg declared Homer
Simpsons and honorary Winnipegger on May 30, 2003. Although it has now be
revealed the Homer Groening is more likely to hail from Main Centre,
Ivan Satori
> complete absurd to the normal foreigner, Americans believe in like gospel.
> Was Hussein Personally Involved in the Sept. 11 Terrorist Attacks?
> There has been an increase in the number of Americans who feel that Hussein
> was personally involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, from 43% in
This reminds me of a story Trudeau mentions in his Memoirs.
"President Ronald Reagan was a great storyteller and a very sociable
man. But his outlook was dominated by a deep faith in the free market
system and by what I can only call an obsession with communism. His
view of the world was largely anecdotal.
"I remember, for instance, his first meeting with French president
Francois Mitterand at the Economic Summit that I chaired at
Montelbello in 1981. We were a fairly high-powered group, including
Thatcher, Mitterand, and Schmidt. we were debating East-West issues
and Mitterand was advocating some measures to improve relations with
the Soviet Union. At that moment, Reagan launched into one of his
anecdotes about his time as president of Actors Equity in Hollywood in
the 1940s. His story concerned a priest who had allegedly been trained
in Moscow as an agent of the KGB in order to spread discord among the
actors in the union. After the meeting, Mitterand came to me and said,
"What planet is this man living on? Does he really believe that the
Soviets would bring an American priest to Moscow in order to send him
back to be a spokesman for the Actors Equity?" I think it fair to say
that Reagan could be pleasant company for social conversation but was
not a man for thoughtful policy discusssion.
So here you have it. No matter that the Soviets indeed had a program
under which they trained priests and sent them to the States as part
of their "ideological diversion" efforts. No matter that at the time
when Mitterand was "advocating measures to improve relations with the
Soviet Union", Reagan knew that the Communist regime can be beaten and
he ultimately saw the project through.
Why, he was just a dimwit, a pleasant company but not a man for
thoughtful policy discussion.
Just imagine if the intelligent, educated and sophisticated giants of
Mitterand's or Trudeau's stature had more of a say in the world
affairs, how much better would we be off. Their successors could still
engage today in thoughtful policy discussions (just imagine the
contribution Jean Chretien could have made in that regard!) about
measures how to improve relations with the Soviet Union, Saddam could
hold Kuwait, and maybe for a good measure Saudi Arabia, too, Castro
and/or Ortega could rule Venezuela by now, and the Great Satan US
could have been in his mortal throes.
What a sweet world that could have been. It might take generations now
to work back to the kind of chances and opportunities that were
offering themselves by the end of the 70's before those backward
primitive ignorants started with all that anti-Communist, and now
anti-terrorist, nonsense.
lsj7
You are not savvy to the failure of the American education system then. So
be it.
--
lsj7
It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you
can fool enough of them to rule a large country.
________will durant
TheMan
And what exactly is wrong with Pauline Hanson?
Oh thats right... she's stupid because she didn't know what "Xenophobia"
meant. Must make her stupid thats she's not a walking enclyopedia.
-TheMan-
steve
> I'm sure most of them think Homer Simpson is "normal". Something that seems
> complete absurd to the normal foreigner, Americans believe in like gospel.
>
> http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr031219.asp
>
> Was Hussein Personally Involved in the Sept. 11 Terrorist Attacks?
That pretty much says it all about how effective the propaganda machine
is.....
...and how IN-effective the entire mass of US media are at getting the
truth out.
Once again, we se that the American people are the best entertained and
least informed people anywhere.
steve
> What a sweet world that could have been. It might take generations now
> to work back to the kind of chances and opportunities that were
> offering themselves by the end of the 70's before those backward
> primitive ignorants started with all that anti-Communist, and now
> anti-terrorist, nonsense.
You had to waffle because you had no other option.....
steve
Liar Bush / Liar Howard ("They threw their babies into the sea!")
Anyone who voted for either one of them is an idiot.
E. Barry Bruyea
I suppose everyone has an anecdotal story to tell about every country
they've visited. I used to travel a great deal on business and some
of the questions I was asked about Canada in places like Germany,
France, Belgium & England, and yes, the U.S., boggle the mind.
Ignorance is not a national trait, but a personal one and to judge any
country by the actions or idiocy of individuals (except France, of
course) is just a tad silly.
Serge
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> Andy Weaks <awb...@labyrinth.net> wrote in message
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> > hsn...@nospam.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Serge wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Americans are without doubt, the most ignorant people
> > > > on Earth.
> > > >
> > > > I was in a gallery in Florence a few years ago discussing
> > > > a work of art by Michelangelo with my wife and
> > > > engaged in conversation with a wank, who, on finding
> > > > I was an Australian, asked "You all speak American
> > > > in Australia?"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Apart from the majority of these neurone-deficient
> > > > peasants believing Saddam was involved in 9/11,
> > > > 25%, yes 25 fucking percent still believe that the
> > > > Sun revolves around the Earth.
> > > >
> > > > And I'm being deadly serious.
> > > >
> > > > Serge.
> > >
> > > You mean the type of people that make these sorts of
> > > mistakes?
> > >
> > > deficient
> > > dinkum
> > > embarrassment
> > > neurone
> > >
> > > Pot, kettle, black ....
> >
> >
> > I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word
> > one way.
> > ~Mark Twain
> >
> > Correct spelling, indeed, is one of the arts that are far more
> > esteemed by schoolma'ams than by practical men,
> > neck-deep in the heat and agony of the world.
> > ~Henry Louis Mencken, The American Language
> >
> > Correct English is the slang of prigs who write history
> > and essays.
> > ~George Eliot
>
> work of art by Michaelangulo in a galery in Florance with his
> wife, all while pepering his chaufinist speach with explitives,
> doesnt strike me as a typical example of a practicul man,
> neckdeep in the heat and aguny of the world.
>
> More like a posur with an infeariority complex.
>
> Its one thing to make speling mistaks, it's anuther thing to use
> big words without nowing how to spel them and its anuther
> thing stil to make speling mistakes in big words while
> claiming intelectuel superioroty over an intire nation.
Well, it would appear that Ivan the Peasant's biggest gripe, is any
mention of art, which he describes as "bragging".
What a bloody Philistine.
What are you?
SeekerOfKnowledge
wrote:
>Ignorance is not a national trait, but a personal one and to judge any
>country by the actions or idiocy of individuals (except France, of
>course) is just a tad silly.
The difference with Americans this ignorant is that it all seems to
centre around their perception that they are the centre of the
universe.
Of course, not all Americans are afflicted with this, but their
current political world view tends to reinforce the ignorance of the
minority of Americans you meet outside the US. Within the US, the
general view seems to be that they are as worried about their
political leadership as the rest of the world.
Cy Coe
> You are not savvy to the failure of the American education system then. So
> be it.
Canadians may be "better educated", but we are no less conditioned to
follow whatever our elites say. Why else would anyone outside on
Ontario or Quebec vote Liberal, when that party's policies (at least
during the Trudeau and Chretien eras) have been deliberately
constructed to benefit only those two provinces?
Cy
Jedidiah Clampett
How can you say that Ontario benefited from Chrétien during the Harris /
Eve's days?
You're blind as you are stupid.
Ivan Satori
First of all, as somebody who likes to accuse others - usually
wrongly, from what I have seen - of improper generalizations, you
might consider to learn one day how to use quantifiers such as "none",
"all", "any", "every", etc., properly. Until you do, it might be
advisable to use them cautiously and sparingly.
My options were, among others, not to enter the debate, to address the
logical defficiencies of the original posting directly, or to
illustrate the folly of the posting using a parallel.
The advantages of the first option are obvious. The second would be
more straightforward but most likely ineffective. Against convictions
irrational in nature and hysterical in intensity, logical arguments
are usually dimissed off hand and quickly forgotten.
The advantage of a parallel story is that it's more memorable. That
way it can be helpful some time down the road.
You see, there are basically two types of leftists. There are people
who found out that selling leftist ideas, they can make a good living
for themselves (Michael Moore is a good example), increase their
stature (Noam Chomsky would fit the picture quite nicely), achieve
power (Bill Clinton), or satisfy some other personal aspirations, or a
combination thereof. They pretty much know what they're doing and have
no reason to abandon what works for them
The majority, however, are basically well meaning people who, while
young and naive and/or rebellious, get duped into believing that if
the goals sound good, the means are also good, and - most importantly
- workable. Some of those people gradually grow up to understand the
underlying misconceptions and the dangers inherent in leftist
ideologies. The more capable of critical thinking they are and/or the
more exposed to real life they get, the more likely and the faster the
process of growing up might happen.
So that's why I consider it potentially useful to provide some pieces
for the puzzle when I can. For those who possess or might develop the
capacity, it might help grasping the picture some day.
Now, as for the logical arguments, while I don't think they would
work, I can't see any particularly good reason why to not to mention a
few of them:
Fundamentally, there is rarely possible - apart from the realm of the
mathematics - to prove non-existence. If it were possible at all to
prove that Saddam wasn't in any way involved, to my knowledge, it has
not been unequivocally accomplished thus far. All we know for sure is
that his involvement has not been proven clearly and reliably, as yet.
The perception of what constitutes personal involvement might be
different from person to person. For some, it might be active
participation in planning and executing the attack. For some it might
be operational support provided to agents of Al Quaeda, knowing their
overall goals but not necessarily their immediate specific targets at
any given time. For some, supplying financial support and logistic
facilities might suffice. Those different perceptions might be
arguable, but hardly patently unreasonable.
And as for the argument that something would appear absurd to the
normal foreigner, one would think this kind of reasoning should have
been laid to rest at least since Copernicus, not to mention that
"think" and "believe in like gospel" are two quite different things.
dechucka
"E. Barry Bruyea" <bl...@sky.org> wrote in message
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but a trait that the septics have more than others
Mick
> beleiving Saddam was involved in 9/11, 25%, yes 25 fucking
> percent still believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth.
>
> And I'm being deadly serious.
>
> Serge.
>
The sun *does* revolve around the earth. Einstein proved that in 1905...
E. Barry Bruyea
Using your last sentence as an example, don't think that Canadians
should be even more worried than Americans? After all, we have endured
10 years of rule by the PMO, rather than our parliament, and bad rule
at that.
Diabolik
> news:vnPEb.58869$aT.5...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > foreigner, Americans believe in like gospel.
> >
> >
> > Was Hussein Personally Involved in the Sept. 11 Terrorist
> > Attacks?
> >
> > feel that Hussein was personally involved in the Sept. 11
> > terrorist attacks, from 43% in September to 53% today.
>
>
> Earth.
>
> I was in a gallery in Florence a few years ago discussing a work
> of art by Michelangelo with my wife and engaged in
> conversation with a wank, who, on finding I was an Australian,
> asked "You all speak American in Australia?"
>
>
> Apart from the majority of these nuerone-defficient peasants
> beleiving Saddam was involved in 9/11, 25%, yes 25 fucking
> percent still believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth.
>
> And I'm being deadly serious.
I was in Venice last year and I heard a yank say about one of the most
historical buildings in the city:
"That building is too old, why don't they knock it down?"
Their level of general knowledge is inferior to the rest of us.
Diabolik
I would prefer her to Howard.
At least she looks after our national interests.
Bullock
"SeekerOfKnowledge" <seekerof...@know.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:51:21 -0500, E. Barry Bruyea <bl...@sky.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> >Ignorance is not a national trait, but a personal one and to judge any
> >country by the actions or idiocy of individuals (except France, of
> >course) is just a tad silly.
>
> The difference with Americans this ignorant is that it all seems to
> centre around their perception that they are the centre of the
> universe.
Well maybe that's because they ARE and they have earned that right (at the
present time) and you just can't handle it. They will eventually lose that
title but you would have to be brain dead to not realize that the USA is
responsible for many of the things that you cherish everyday.
Ivan Satori
> > Just that sumebody who feels the need to brag about discusing
> > work of art by Michaelangulo in a galery in Florance with his
> > wife, all while pepering his chaufinist speach with explitives,
> > doesnt strike me as a typical example of a practicul man,
> > neckdeep in the heat and aguny of the world.
> > More like a posur with an infeariority complex.
> > Its one thing to make speling mistaks, it's anuther thing to use
> > big words without nowing how to spel them and its anuther
> > thing stil to make speling mistakes in big words while
> > claiming intelectuel superioroty over an intire nation.
Not that I would have expected too much from you, but there seems to
be really no limit to how limited some people can be.
But it's commendable that you're at least trying to compensate for
what you're lacking in brightness by industriousness.
> Well, it would appear that Ivan the Peasant's biggest gripe, is any
> mention of art, which he describes as "bragging".
By now, it doesn't surprize me the least that to you, it might,
indeed, appear that way. Nor am I surprized that you would try to
belittle people who work on the land. Or any people capable of some
meaningful and useful work, for the matter. For people who are
intuitively aware of their own inferiority, trying to put down others
is one of the very few available options how to make themselves feel
at least a little bit better about themselves.
> What a bloody Philistine.
If it makes you feel better, feel free to add a few expletives.
> What are you?
Trying to explain it to you might be a bit trying.
I would suggest not to worry about it. Feel free to provide your own
answer. I am sure your vocabulary is rich enough, even if not
necessarily correctly spelled.
Siobhan Medeiros
Or maybe he they're typos, moron.
Americans are indeed idiots. Look who they elected.
Serge
"Siobhan Medeiros" <s...@netidea.com> wrote in message
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> isa...@cogeco.ca (Ivan Satori) wrote in message
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> > Andy Weaks <awb...@labyrinth.net> wrote in message
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> > > hsn...@nospam.com wrote:
> > > > Serge wrote:
> > > > > "TheMan" <nor...@noreply.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:vnPEb.58869$aT.5...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Terrorist Attacks?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There has been an increase in the number of
> > > > > > Americans who feel that Hussein was personally
> > > > > > involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, from 43%
> > > > > > in September to 53% today.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Americans are without doubt, the most ignorant
> > > > > people on Earth.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was in a gallery in Florence a few years ago
> > > > > discussing a work of art by Michelangelo with my
> > speech with expletives, doesn't strike me as a typical
> > example of a practical man, neck-deep in the heat and
> > agony of the world.
> >
> > More like a poseur with an inferiority complex.
> >
> > It's one thing to make spelling mistakes, it's another thing to
> > use big words without knowing how to spell them, and it's
> > another thing still to make spelling mistakes in big words
> > while claiming intellectual superiority over an entire nation.
>
>
> Or maybe he they're typos, moron.
>
> Americans are indeed idiots. Look who they elected.
What worries me about Ivan's intellect, Siobhan, is his reference
to "believing"; "deficient"; "dinkum", "embarrassment"; and
"neurone" as **BIG** words.
BWHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To show just how limited his lexicon is, he actually thought that
"dinkum" was spelt incorrectly.
So here's a test for you Ivan. In order to know (or in this case
"think" you know) that "dinkum is spelt incorrectly, you must
know its meaning.
So to prove that you're not the vacuous fool Greater Usenet
thinks you are, explain its meaning to us.
.....waiting...
Serge.
Incidentally Ivan, what's this love affair you have with
Americans. I thought Canadians (albeit a wog Canadian in
your case) hated Wanks.
Ivan Satori
> > Just that somebody who feels the need to brag about discussing work of
> > art by Michelangelo in a gallery in Florence with his wife, all while
> > peppering his chauvinist speech with expletives, doesn't strike me as
> > a typical example of a practical man, neck-deep in the heat and agony
> > of the world.
> >
> > More like a poseur with an inferiority complex.
> >
> > It's one thing to make spelling mistakes, it's another thing to use
> > big words without knowing how to spell them, and it's another thing
> > still to make spelling mistakes in big words while claiming
> > intellectual superiority over an entire nation.
>
>
> Or maybe he they're typos,
Maybe. And then again, maybe not.
Five in five paragraphs, four in non-plain-English words, seems a bit
excessive for somebody who calls others ignorant while trying to pass
himself off as some kind of an intellectual.
> moron.
Nice to meet you. Sorry for not responding by introducing myself. I
wouldn't be able to make my self-characterization as succint as to
match yours, and my name you know already anyway.
> Americans are indeed idiots. Look who they elected.
When you continue writing after you sign, it's common practice to put
P.S. before the additional text.
So Americans are idiots, you say. Well, look who is talking.
Ivan Satori
> > > It's one thing to make spelling mistakes, it's another thing to
> > > use big words without knowing how to spell them, and it's
> > > another thing still to make spelling mistakes in big words
> > > while claiming intellectual superiority over an entire nation.
> > Or maybe he they're typos, moron.
> > Americans are indeed idiots. Look who they elected.
> What worries me about Ivan's intellect, Siobhan, is his reference
> to "believing"; "deficient"; "dinkum", "embarrassment"; and
> "neurone" as **BIG** words.
Well, I just tried to adjust the language to the estimated IQ level of
the addressee. As I have neither a natural knack nor professional
training for this kind of communication, I'm glad I apparently managed
to get the message across.
But I really appreciate you concern. It's touching and I am glad for
you. You see, to some, it's just not given to be bright, and there is
little you can do about it. But being a good, caring person, that's
pretty much within anybody's reach, maybe even yours. Good for you to
have at least the good instinct and/or guidance to direct you into
something where just another failure is not as inevitable.
> BWHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> To show just how limited his lexicon is, he actually thought that
> "dinkum" was spelt incorrectly.
I actually didn't. Just didn't care enough to delve into such details.
80% seemed good enough for me and I never claimed it was 100%.
But I apologize, I probably should have mentioned the one word you
managed to spell correctly. With intellectually struggling
individuals, it's very important to give praise and encouragement
whenever an opportunity arises. the more so that such opportunities
are so rare. I am really sorry to have missed this one.
> So here's a test for you Ivan. In order to know (or in this case
> "think" you know) that "dinkum is spelt incorrectly, you must
> know its meaning.
If I did, I might have to have.
> So to prove that you're not the vacuous fool Greater Usenet
> thinks you are, explain its meaning to us.
I don't pretend to be an expert on Australian version of English, or
any English for that matter. I understand it is used to express some
kind of surprise and/or disbelief, something like "honestly?" or
"can't believe it", but that's about it. As for its etymology, I
haven't got a clue. From Chinese? Something to do with gold? Don't
know.
> .....waiting...
Good for you. I understand, it tends to be psychologically very
beneficial to do occasionally something which lies withing the scope
of one's mental capacity. And waiting is something again which might
work even for you.
> Serge.
>
> Incidentally Ivan, what's this love affair you have with
> Americans. I thought Canadians (albeit a wog Canadian in
> your case) hated Wanks.
I am afraid, that might be too complicated for you to grasp, with your
apparent inability to integrate single-bit information into more
complex patterns.
You see, some people are not limited - as difficult as it might seem
to you to entertain such an idea - to either loving or hating any
particular entity. Also, Americans are not all the same. Some are
bright and well mannered, some not so bright and not so well mannered,
and, indeed, there are even some who are just like you.
Lost already? I know, I know. I leave it at that, don't want to give
you a headache. No point trying to accomplish in a few paragraphs what
would take long hours of painstaking one-on-one instruction. Maybe you
can work on it some day with your wife. She must be, obviously, an
extremely kind and patient person, so she might be able to help make
some progress even to you, given plenty and plenty of time, of course.
Best of luck.