More American Lies (Saddam Capture)
Emmanuel Goldstein V
regarding the ousted leader's capture have started to emerge; questions that
may unfortunately remain unanswered. Analysts, journalists and Muslims all
over the world are casting heavy doubts on the official U.S. version of
Saddam Hussein's seizure.
The world currently has its eyes set on the pictures of bearded and
tired-looking Saddam following his arrest. Speculations with regards to
Saddam's actual location have also surfaced, and of course, when and where
will he stand trial and who will eventually defend him. However, what was
not significantly dealt with was the many uncertainties related to the
capture of Saddam, especially whether he was actually arrested on the day
the Americans said he was?
In the aftermath of Saddam's arrest and the media-hype which followed, many
in the Arab world believe that Saddam was not in fact arrested on Saturday,
December 13, but at least ten days beforehand, and arguments raised in
defense of this notion are surely worth mentioning.
For one, it is not conceivable for the Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] to
bring someone, of the caliber of Saddam Hussein, straight in front of the
media's cameras without having thoroughly interrogated him first. This was
probably done over a period of several days, using the torture and sense
deprivation techniques and methods that the U.S. is known for. Assuming
this, there is no way that Saddam could have been caught on December 13.
Furthermore, U.S. President George W. Bush carefully timed the way he wanted
the announcement to be made, so that it would have the maximum and right
impact for him personally. Let us not forget how Bush sneaked his way to
Baghdad during Thanksgiving, ate turkey with his soldiers as part of a
Public Relations campaign he has embarked on, in view of the upcoming U.S.
elections. Additionally, capturing Saddam right before Christmas can only do
wonders for the U.S. leader's image
Moreover, when the announcement came through, there were conflicting reports
on where Saddam was actually captured. One report mentioned the town of
Tikrit although the "spider hole" turned out not to be in Tikrit at all.
For those of you with a sharp eye, you probably noticed that the
announcement of Saddam's capture came only a few days after penalties for
Syria had been announced as there was widespread dissatisfaction among
Americans that Bush's policy in Iraq had failed due to the high rate of U.S.
soldiers being killed on a daily basis and the failure to find any "weapons
of mass destruction", which prompted the U.S. army to invade Iraq in the
first place. Such an announcement on Saddam's arrest could only boost the
morale of U.S. troops, who have suffered many casualties, especially
following the so-called official ending of combat in Iraq.
Furthermore, Bush wanted to divert the world's attention from the mounting
U.S. failures in Afghanistan and from the intelligence and operational
failure to put his hands on Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. Instead, it was
easy for Bush to exploit the capture of Saddam and play around with the
manner in which it was conducted.
Just days before December 13, US officials were talking about putting Saddam
Hussein on trial and were even changing the law to try former Iraqi regime
members.
Interesting timing - no?
In addition, only ten days before December 13, Jihad fighters in Iraq had
already announced that Saddam Hussein had been captured by the U.S. after
intense fighting involving thousands of soldiers, although the Pentagon
denied this at the time. In addition, the U.S. media, which pumps
information from the administration, has not been accurate in its reports
throughout the entire war in Iraq, so why should they be accurate now with
regards to Saddam's capture?
Even Saddam's personal doctor claimed, after watching footage of his capture
and treatment, that it is impossible for Hussein to remain compliant unless
he had been heavily sedated for several days. His daughter, who currently
resides in Jordan, also said her father seemed heavily sedated.
Another eye-raising question is why Saddam had not put up the slightest
resistance, even though he was reportedly armed. Perhaps, Saddam was indeed
secretly medicated not to resist before the U.S. forces raided his hiding
place.
Several speculations claim Saddam Hussein was not actually in hiding but
that he was a prisoner. The story says that Hussein was actually caught on
November 16, and held in the dark hole in Adwar for at least three weeks,
while his captors attempted to get the $25 million that the U.S. promised to
anyone who found the ousted leader.
Another story circulating on the streets of Baghdad concerns a photograph of
two American soldiers standing beside a date palm tree. The photo was
supposedly taken on the day of Saddam's capture. However, according to the
story, any Iraqi would know that this picture was a fake, because date palms
are usually harvested in the summer time. In any case, un-harvested dates
fall off the tree before December, and even if they don't, they are brown
and dry, not yellow, as they are in the photograph.
Meanwhile, there are uncertainties about how the Americans could pull off
such a fast DNA test to verify that they had the real Saddam in their hands.
Under normal conditions, it can take up to a month to get a DNA study done,
although if you pay more money, the process can be completed in a period of
five days.
Yet, the question also remains why, for instance, did Saddam look so
confused shortly after his capture? A former Republican Guard officer in the
village of Al-Dour, near where Saddam was captured, claimed that some
believe the hole had been struck with nerve gas. Dead birds and other
apparently drugged animals were discovered around the hideout shortly after
the former Iraqi president's capture.
The U.S. government, known for their habit to "preach" democracy and other
such values, should perhaps realize, once and for all, that the world is
sick and tired of their biased stands as well as their inaccurate approach
in conveying information. Why should Arabs believe the "December 13" version
of their story when such conflicting and contradicting information
accompanies it? How can one believe anything the U.S. says when the world
still awaits to see the location of the Iraqi "weapons of mass destruction"?
Maybe it is time for the U.S. to just leave Arabs and Muslims alone, to pull
out of Iraqi lands and instead, focus on their own domestic problems at home
John Cawston
> Nearly a week after the arrest of Saddam Hussein, some serious questions
> regarding the ousted leader's capture have started to emerge; questions that
> may unfortunately remain unanswered. Analysts, journalists and Muslims all
> over the world are casting heavy doubts on the official U.S. version of
> Saddam Hussein's seizure.
Are you Steve Withers?
JC
Tum
"Emmanuel Goldstein V" <deli...@essene.org> wrote in message
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>
> Furthermore, U.S. President George W. Bush carefully timed the way he
wanted
> the announcement to be made, so that it would have the maximum and right
> impact for him personally. Let us not forget how Bush sneaked his way to
> Baghdad during Thanksgiving, ate turkey with his soldiers as part of a
> Public Relations campaign he has embarked on, in view of the upcoming U.S.
> elections. Additionally, capturing Saddam right before Christmas can only
do
> wonders for the U.S. leader's image
>
It wouldn't matter when Saddam was captured people would still be able to
draw a web of "convenient cirumstances" to prove that it was all
prearranged.
> Even Saddam's personal doctor claimed, after watching footage of his
capture
> and treatment, that it is impossible for Hussein to remain compliant
unless
> he had been heavily sedated for several days. His daughter, who currently
> resides in Jordan, also said her father seemed heavily sedated.
>
Gee. Wouldn't living in hiding and being hunted by the US military for over
9 months kindda make you emotionally and physically fucked? Nah, he must
have been drugged.
I guess you think his weight lost was cause the US actually caught him 4
weeks ago and starved him right?
Tilly
No John, he is Daniel Smith/Schmidt/Balint.
He's another wacko conspiracy theorist.
Tilly--
Brig...@hotmail.com
Emmanuel Goldstein V
"Tilly" <Brig...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Lol - That's only the tip of the iceberg Till ya shiksa sayanim
Emmanuel Goldstein V
"Tum" <sp...@spam.com> wrote in message
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His weight loss was probably caused by him shitting your brains out
Tilly
> Lol - That's only the tip of the iceberg Till ya shiksa sayanim
<sigh>
Grow up Daniel.
Tilly
Tum
Probably. My brain does have significant weight.
L Alpert
> Nearly a week after the arrest of Saddam Hussein, some serious
> questions regarding the ousted leader's capture have started to
> emerge; questions that may unfortunately remain unanswered. Analysts,
> journalists and Muslims all over the world are casting heavy doubts
> on the official U.S. version of Saddam Hussein's seizure.
>
> The world currently has its eyes set on the pictures of bearded and
> tired-looking Saddam following his arrest. Speculations with regards
> to Saddam's actual location have also surfaced, and of course, when
> and where will he stand trial and who will eventually defend him.
> However, what was not significantly dealt with was the many
> uncertainties related to the capture of Saddam, especially whether he
> was actually arrested on the day the Americans said he was?
>
> In the aftermath of Saddam's arrest and the media-hype which
> followed, many in the Arab world believe that Saddam was not in fact
> arrested on Saturday, December 13, but at least ten days beforehand,
> and arguments raised in defense of this notion are surely worth
> mentioning.
Why, what is the difference? I surely do not care what day it was.
>
> For one, it is not conceivable for the Central Intelligence Agency
> [CIA] to bring someone, of the caliber of Saddam Hussein, straight in
> front of the media's cameras without having thoroughly interrogated
> him first. This was probably done over a period of several days,
> using the torture and sense deprivation techniques and methods that
> the U.S. is known for. Assuming this, there is no way that Saddam
> could have been caught on December 13.
Hmm, these "techniques" would be passe for old Saddam. Just remember how
one spells assume.
>
> Furthermore, U.S. President George W. Bush carefully timed the way he
> wanted the announcement to be made, so that it would have the maximum
> and right impact for him personally. Let us not forget how Bush
> sneaked his way to Baghdad during Thanksgiving, ate turkey with his
> soldiers as part of a Public Relations campaign he has embarked on,
> in view of the upcoming U.S. elections. Additionally, capturing
> Saddam right before Christmas can only do wonders for the U.S.
> leader's image
So, you think the president should have announce when and where he was going
for thanksgiving? It would have been a security nightmare. Maybe he should
ride in an open car in Texas instead.
>
> Moreover, when the announcement came through, there were conflicting
> reports on where Saddam was actually captured. One report mentioned
> the town of Tikrit although the "spider hole" turned out not to be in
> Tikrit at all.
If you ask me where New Jersey is because you don't know, I may say New
York. It puts you in the vicinity and gives perspective.
<rest of conspiracy theory deleted for brevity>
L Alpert
Or from a change in lifestyle.
Bob Howard
> regarding the ousted leader's capture have started to emerge; questions
that
> may unfortunately remain unanswered. Analysts, journalists and Muslims all
> over the world are casting heavy doubts on the official U.S. version of
> Saddam Hussein's seizure.
>
> The world currently has its eyes set on the pictures of bearded and
> tired-looking Saddam following his arrest. Speculations with regards to
> Saddam's actual location have also surfaced, and of course, when and where
> will he stand trial and who will eventually defend him. However, what was
> not significantly dealt with was the many uncertainties related to the
> capture of Saddam, especially whether he was actually arrested on the day
> the Americans said he was?
Here come the cospiracy theories.
>
> In the aftermath of Saddam's arrest and the media-hype which followed,
many
> in the Arab world believe that Saddam was not in fact arrested on
Saturday,
> December 13, but at least ten days beforehand, and arguments raised in
> defense of this notion are surely worth mentioning.
Are these the same Arabs who claim Israel organised the destruction of the
twin towers?
> For one, it is not conceivable for the Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
to
> bring someone, of the caliber of Saddam Hussein, straight in front of the
> media's cameras without having thoroughly interrogated him first.
Why? What has the camera got to do with interrogation. The American aim
would be to demoralise the opposition as quickly as possible to stop
terrorist attacks, what better way at present than by presenting an
unresisting Saddam.
This was
> probably done over a period of several days, using the torture and sense
> deprivation techniques and methods that the U.S. is known for. Assuming
> this, there is no way that Saddam could have been caught on December 13.
Bullshit!
ermore, U.S. President George W. Bush carefully timed the way he wanted
> the announcement to be made, so that it would have the maximum and right
> impact for him personally. Let us not forget how Bush sneaked his way to
> Baghdad during Thanksgiving, ate turkey with his soldiers as part of a
> Public Relations campaign he has embarked on, in view of the upcoming U.S.
> elections. Additionally, capturing Saddam right before Christmas can only
do
> wonders for the U.S. leader's image
What has Bush's visit to troops in Iraq got to do with it?
>
> Furthermore, Bush wanted to divert the world's attention from the mounting
> U.S. failures in Afghanistan and from the intelligence and operational
> failure to put his hands on Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. Instead, it
was
> easy for Bush to exploit the capture of Saddam and play around with the
> manner in which it was conducted.
You don't think the capture of Saddam was fantastic enough in itself without
the embellishment? It might well be that the details are a little different
from those announced but I doubt if they are significant.
>
> Just days before December 13, US officials were talking about putting
Saddam
> Hussein on trial and were even changing the law to try former Iraqi regime
> members.
>
> Interesting timing - no?
Not necessarily? The Americans might have known they were gettring close
especially if they had particularly good informants.
>
> In addition, only ten days before December 13, Jihad fighters in Iraq had
> already announced that Saddam Hussein had been captured by the U.S. after
> intense fighting involving thousands of soldiers, although the Pentagon
> denied this at the time. In addition, the U.S. media, which pumps
> information from the administration, has not been accurate in its reports
> throughout the entire war in Iraq, so why should they be accurate now with
> regards to Saddam's capture?
How many announcements have we had of Saddam's imminent capture and how many
near misses? American intelligence has probably had a few good tips but
Saddam has stayed just outside of their grasp.
>
> Even Saddam's personal doctor claimed, after watching footage of his
capture
> and treatment, that it is impossible for Hussein to remain compliant
unless
> he had been heavily sedated for several days. His daughter, who currently
> resides in Jordan, also said her father seemed heavily sedated.
That wouldn't surprise me. The Americas would prefer him docile so might
have sedated him. It would also make it difficult for Saddam to commit
suicide. That is why he was checked for cyanide pills very smartly.
>
> Another eye-raising question is why Saddam had not put up the slightest
> resistance, even though he was reportedly armed. Perhaps, Saddam was
indeed
> secretly medicated not to resist before the U.S. forces raided his hiding
> place.
He had to be caught before he could be sedated. I would suggest when the
chips were down he was a personal coward. At least his sons went out
fighting. He could dish it out but couldn't take it.
>
> Several speculations claim Saddam Hussein was not actually in hiding but
> that he was a prisoner. The story says that Hussein was actually caught on
> November 16, and held in the dark hole in Adwar for at least three weeks,
> while his captors attempted to get the $25 million that the U.S. promised
to
> anyone who found the ousted leader.
Then why leave him with several guns?
>>
> Meanwhile, there are uncertainties about how the Americans could pull off
> such a fast DNA test to verify that they had the real Saddam in their
hands.
> Under normal conditions, it can take up to a month to get a DNA study
done,
> although if you pay more money, the process can be completed in a period
of
> five days.
First DNA samples from relatives would already be on hand. That is part of
the job. The military or CIA can certainly get things done much more quickly
than civilians. They probably had DNA experts standing by for a quick
analysis.
>
> Yet, the question also remains why, for instance, did Saddam look so
> confused shortly after his capture? A former Republican Guard officer in
the
> village of Al-Dour, near where Saddam was captured, claimed that some
> believe the hole had been struck with nerve gas. Dead birds and other
> apparently drugged animals were discovered around the hideout shortly
after
> the former Iraqi president's capture.
Sedation would easily explain it.
>
> The U.S. government, known for their habit to "preach" democracy and other
> such values, should perhaps realize, once and for all, that the world is
> sick and tired of their biased stands as well as their inaccurate approach
> in conveying information. Why should Arabs believe the "December 13"
version
> of their story when such conflicting and contradicting information
> accompanies it? How can one believe anything the U.S. says when the world
> still awaits to see the location of the Iraqi "weapons of mass
destruction"?
> Maybe it is time for the U.S. to just leave Arabs and Muslims alone, to
pull
> out of Iraqi lands and instead, focus on their own domestic problems at
home
Saddam is still alive. Perhaps his palaces could be restored and his regime
reestablished including reorganisationn of his secret police. It's a pity
Udy won't be around to rape and torture at will. Of course all those statues
will need to be replaced.
Bob Howard.
Emmanuel Goldstein V
> Emmanuel Goldstein V wrote:
> > Lol - That's only the tip of the iceberg Till ya shiksa sayanim
>
>
> <sigh>
>
> Grow up Daniel.
>
>
> Tilly
Get a Life Tilly
Emmanuel Goldstein V
Emmanuel Goldstein V
Bob Howard
>
> Who's Udy?
Correction Uday and of course his little brother Qusay. Otherwise have you
no comment?
Bob Howard.
Tum
That doesn't correlate with him shitting it out does it? Wouldn't he be
pissing it out?
Poor Emmanuel.
E. Scrooge
Not possible.
You'll have to cut and paste one for her.
E. Scrooge
Henry.Boss
Just goes to prove, that poor old Emmanuel cant tell his arse from his
elbow.
Emmanuel Goldstein V
montezumas revenge style
Emmanuel Goldstein V
"Henry.Boss" <Henry...@myb.net> wrote in message
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I lost both my arms in the vietnam war buddy
Emmanuel Goldstein V
Comment about what?
Tilly
> I lost both my arms in the vietnam war buddy
LOL........
Boy you really come out with some outrageous stuff Daniel.
Tilly
LeftAintRight
Does this mean he's 'armless [bad joke drum roll].
Emmanuel Goldstein V
> Emmanuel Goldstein V wrote:
>
>
> > I lost both my arms in the vietnam war buddy
>
>
> LOL........
>
>
> Boy you really come out with some outrageous stuff Daniel.
>
Well when i was 4 years old my village was napalmed by the US Airborn
Cavalry - I lost both arms and now use my feet to type. So I guess I
wouldn't know my arse from my elbow.
Tilly
pour-lay
I get the impression that you've crept up mike moore's arsehole so you
should be able to tell the difference.
Emmanuel Goldstein V
and Techno-Shaman - i'm also an albino asian
Emmanuel Goldstein V
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You watch Frontline? great show!
Susan Cohen
"LeftAintRight" <kda...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in message
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He's certainly legless!
Susan
BR
Yes, he was so far up there that Mike Moore bit his arms off.
Bill.
Red Cloud
One more speculation you must forget to add on here: Accordign to the
Israel
report I guess from an Israel newspaper suggstied, 2 or 3 day after
the media report of capture of Saddam, Saddam was not captured but he
was ransomed.
This Israel report is from the Rigth wing Israeli military that this
report
to support your speculation that Saddam was capture earlier than Dec
13.
> Nearly a week after the arrest of Saddam Hussein, some serious questions
> regarding the ousted leader's capture have started to emerge; questions that
> may unfortunately remain unanswered. Analysts, journalists and Muslims all
> over the world are casting heavy doubts on the official U.S. version of
> Saddam Hussein's seizure.
>
> The world currently has its eyes set on the pictures of bearded and
> tired-looking Saddam following his arrest. Speculations with regards to
> Saddam's actual location have also surfaced, and of course, when and where
> will he stand trial and who will eventually defend him. However, what was
> not significantly dealt with was the many uncertainties related to the
> capture of Saddam, especially whether he was actually arrested on the day
> the Americans said he was?
>
> In the aftermath of Saddam's arrest and the media-hype which followed, many
> in the Arab world believe that Saddam was not in fact arrested on Saturday,
> December 13, but at least ten days beforehand, and arguments raised in
> defense of this notion are surely worth mentioning.
>
> For one, it is not conceivable for the Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] to
> bring someone, of the caliber of Saddam Hussein, straight in front of the
> media's cameras without having thoroughly interrogated him first. This was
> probably done over a period of several days, using the torture and sense
> deprivation techniques and methods that the U.S. is known for. Assuming
> this, there is no way that Saddam could have been caught on December 13.
>
> Furthermore, U.S. President George W. Bush carefully timed the way he wanted
> the announcement to be made, so that it would have the maximum and right
> impact for him personally. Let us not forget how Bush sneaked his way to
> Baghdad during Thanksgiving, ate turkey with his soldiers as part of a
> Public Relations campaign he has embarked on, in view of the upcoming U.S.
> elections. Additionally, capturing Saddam right before Christmas can only do
> wonders for the U.S. leader's image
>
> Moreover, when the announcement came through, there were conflicting reports
> on where Saddam was actually captured. One report mentioned the town of
> Tikrit although the "spider hole" turned out not to be in Tikrit at all.
> For those of you with a sharp eye, you probably noticed that the
> announcement of Saddam's capture came only a few days after penalties for
> Syria had been announced as there was widespread dissatisfaction among
> Americans that Bush's policy in Iraq had failed due to the high rate of U.S.
> soldiers being killed on a daily basis and the failure to find any "weapons
> of mass destruction", which prompted the U.S. army to invade Iraq in the
> first place. Such an announcement on Saddam's arrest could only boost the
> morale of U.S. troops, who have suffered many casualties, especially
> following the so-called official ending of combat in Iraq.
>
> Furthermore, Bush wanted to divert the world's attention from the mounting
> U.S. failures in Afghanistan and from the intelligence and operational
> failure to put his hands on Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. Instead, it was
> easy for Bush to exploit the capture of Saddam and play around with the
> manner in which it was conducted.
>
> Just days before December 13, US officials were talking about putting Saddam
> Hussein on trial and were even changing the law to try former Iraqi regime
> members.
>
> Interesting timing - no?
>
> In addition, only ten days before December 13, Jihad fighters in Iraq had
> already announced that Saddam Hussein had been captured by the U.S. after
> intense fighting involving thousands of soldiers, although the Pentagon
> denied this at the time. In addition, the U.S. media, which pumps
> information from the administration, has not been accurate in its reports
> throughout the entire war in Iraq, so why should they be accurate now with
> regards to Saddam's capture?
>
> Even Saddam's personal doctor claimed, after watching footage of his capture
> and treatment, that it is impossible for Hussein to remain compliant unless
> he had been heavily sedated for several days. His daughter, who currently
> resides in Jordan, also said her father seemed heavily sedated.
>
> Another eye-raising question is why Saddam had not put up the slightest
> resistance, even though he was reportedly armed. Perhaps, Saddam was indeed
> secretly medicated not to resist before the U.S. forces raided his hiding
> place.
>
> Several speculations claim Saddam Hussein was not actually in hiding but
> that he was a prisoner. The story says that Hussein was actually caught on
> November 16, and held in the dark hole in Adwar for at least three weeks,
> while his captors attempted to get the $25 million that the U.S. promised to
> anyone who found the ousted leader.
>
> Another story circulating on the streets of Baghdad concerns a photograph of
> two American soldiers standing beside a date palm tree. The photo was
> supposedly taken on the day of Saddam's capture. However, according to the
> story, any Iraqi would know that this picture was a fake, because date palms
> are usually harvested in the summer time. In any case, un-harvested dates
> fall off the tree before December, and even if they don't, they are brown
> and dry, not yellow, as they are in the photograph.
>
> Meanwhile, there are uncertainties about how the Americans could pull off
> such a fast DNA test to verify that they had the real Saddam in their hands.
> Under normal conditions, it can take up to a month to get a DNA study done,
> although if you pay more money, the process can be completed in a period of
> five days.
>
> Yet, the question also remains why, for instance, did Saddam look so
> confused shortly after his capture? A former Republican Guard officer in the
> village of Al-Dour, near where Saddam was captured, claimed that some
> believe the hole had been struck with nerve gas. Dead birds and other
> apparently drugged animals were discovered around the hideout shortly after
> the former Iraqi president's capture.
>
Henry.Boss
Goldstein's are you.??
Emmanuel Goldstein V
"Susan Cohen" <fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Fuck Susan - that was so fucking funny - tiz lucky I was wearing a corset
for I fear my sides may have split
Emmanuel Goldstein V
Dude - have you ever heard of George Orwell?
Henry.Boss
many lives to live, such little time.
Susan Cohen
>
> "Daniel Balint" <deli...@essene.org> wrote in message
> news:3fe7...@news.comindico.com.au...
> >
> > "Henry.Boss" <Henry...@myb.net> wrote in message
> > news:bs7dkk$ivb$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > >
>
> > > > Well when i was 4 years old my village was napalmed by the US
Airborn
> > > > Cavalry - I lost both arms and now use my feet to type. So I guess I
> > > > wouldn't know my arse from my elbow.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Colourful area for a Jewish lad to grow up, you are not one of the Yan
> > Sing
> > > Goldstein's are you.??
> > >
> >
> > Dude - have you ever heard of George Orwell?
> >
> >
> Gosh, you are not going to tell me that you are Georges re-incarnation, so
> many lives to live, such little time.
>
Susan
Henry.Boss
Brian Dooley
Isn't that an elf character in Lord of the Rings?
--
Brian Dooley
Wellington New Zealand
Emmanuel Goldstein V
So neither of you have read 1984 then?
figures
Susan Cohen
"Brian Dooley" <bri...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
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I was wondering when that would come up.
Ah, well, it's just as appropriate, being fictional.
Susan