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scotty dbiz

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Jun 10, 2003, 4:29:40 PM6/10/03
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From T-Mo to you. Existing Data plans will be grandfathered tonight.
Plan will be released tommorrow. Any1 know any prices?
---T-Mobile is excited to announce a new data plan (VPN version
available) and new feature (VPN version available) to launch on June 11.
This new plan and feature offers simplified pricing and unlimited
buckets of data.

[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

Jim L

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Jun 10, 2003, 5:16:34 PM6/10/03
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VPN is going to be 29.99 for unmlimted data as long as on the TMobile
network...

no included voice, vocie calls are .20 per minute flat in network...

300 SMS (In or out)

10.00 per MGbyte if roaming outside of Tmobile Home network

available as of June 11...

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Turbofroggy

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Jun 10, 2003, 7:10:32 PM6/10/03
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In addition it will be $19.95 a month add-on to $29.99 or higher voice
plans.

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Mike Schumann

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Jun 12, 2003, 1:13:05 PM6/12/03
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Can you use this plan to provide a laptop internet connection? What's the
best phone to use for this application?

Mike Schumann

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Matthew

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Jun 12, 2003, 2:11:23 PM6/12/03
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:13:05 -0500, "Mike Schumann"
<mike-...@traditions-nospam.com> wrote:

>Can you use this plan to provide a laptop internet connection? What's the
>best phone to use for this application?

Get a phone with BT. That's the best way to do it. I was playing
around with it on my 3650 and it's great via BT. But for best
performance you should get a pc card. Someone over on HoFo was saying
they were getting higher speeds using a Nokia D311 card which has 8+2,
versus a phone that has like 4+2. He wasn't quite getting double but
it was significantly higher speeds.

BTW if you have a voice line you can add the unlimited plan for $19.99
on that line.

>"Jim L" <ff1...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> VPN is going to be 29.99 for unmlimted data as long as on the TMobile
>> network...
>> no included voice, vocie calls are .20 per minute flat in network...
>> 300 SMS (In or out)
>> 10.00 per MGbyte if roaming outside of Tmobile Home network
>> available as of June 11

Matthew

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Mike Schumann

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Jun 12, 2003, 3:48:47 PM6/12/03
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What kind of speeds can you expect with a phone based internet connection?
This sounds like it might be a really great deal. Do you also get access to
T-Mobile WiFi hotspots witht his deal?

Mike Schumann

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Mike Schumann

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Jun 12, 2003, 3:58:15 PM6/12/03
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Can I get the $19.99 add on deal with a PC-Card if I already have a T-Mobile
phone agreement?

Mike Schumann

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cheerioboy 26 (matt)

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Jun 12, 2003, 5:15:41 PM6/12/03
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"Mike Schumann" <mike-...@traditions-nospam.com> wrote in article
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> What kind of speeds can you expect with a phone based internet connection?
> This sounds like it might be a really great deal. Do you also get access to
> T-Mobile WiFi hotspots witht his deal?
>

Speeds are said to be like dial up but I've never used it.

Hotspot access is a separate option....19.99 for TM customers for
national unlimited hotspot data.

Matthew

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Jun 13, 2003, 2:21:47 AM6/13/03
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:58:15 -0500, "Mike Schumann"
<mike-...@traditions-nospam.com> wrote:

>Can I get the $19.99 add on deal with a PC-Card if I already have a T-Mobile
>phone agreement?

No the data plan has to be activated on the same line as a phone plan,
other wise it's 29.99. Yes the speeds are around dialup speed, with
T-mobile accelerator it speeds up (approximating ISDN 128k) normal
browsing a bit, but on a standard dl best speed I got was 3.2KB/sec
(~33.6 speed) while downloading the same file on cable I get around
150KB/sec

Mike Schumann

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Jun 13, 2003, 11:38:46 AM6/13/03
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Do the speeds improve any if you have a GPRS phone?

Thanks,
Mike Schumann

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Kash76

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Jun 13, 2003, 1:31:45 PM6/13/03
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That's too bad that it's so slow. I am currently using Sprint Vision and
hooked to my laptop I get 103k throughput. That's about twice the speed of
56k dialup. I would love a GSM solution but am not willing to give up that
much bandwidth.


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Matthew

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Jun 13, 2003, 1:33:27 PM6/13/03
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:38:46 -0500, "Mike Schumann"
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>Do the speeds improve any if you have a GPRS phone?

That is with a GPRS phone the 3650... you'll get better performance
from a GPRS PC Card

Mike Schumann

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Jun 13, 2003, 3:32:26 PM6/13/03
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Why do you get better performance from a PC Card???

Mike Schumann

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DWC

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Jun 13, 2003, 6:47:28 PM6/13/03
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Two things...

First, for a T-mobile customer to use a gprs phone as a modem for a
laptop you have to use the T-Mobile app called the "T-Mobile Internet
Manager." This app recognizes your phone as a modem and operates it
from the PC.

Second, the Nokia 3650 is not supported yet in the app. (This came to
me from T-mobile support)

so the 3650 owners are sol on the wireless modem thing for now. :(

My question is, does the 3650 support PPTP for standalone email pop
operation? I'm thinking it doesn't, but maybe some company has written
a pptp client.

How about a (Checkpoint) VPN client? Any vpn client? I just want to
pop mail off the exchange server at work.

Thanks,
Dan
please cc by email at dcarwin at yahoo dot com if you would - thanks.

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Matthew

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Jun 13, 2003, 11:16:18 PM6/13/03
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On 13 Jun 2003 15:47:28 -0700, dca...@yahoo.com (DWC) wrote:

>Two things...
>
>First, for a T-mobile customer to use a gprs phone as a modem for a
>laptop you have to use the T-Mobile app called the "T-Mobile Internet
>Manager." This app recognizes your phone as a modem and operates it
>from the PC.

Ok first you do NOT need the Internet manager to use your phone to
connect to the internet using your phone, regardless of your phone.
The internet manager just does all the work and config for you!


>Second, the Nokia 3650 is not supported yet in the app. (This came to
>me from T-mobile support)

This is true but you don't need it anyway so it's no loss...

>so the 3650 owners are sol on the wireless modem thing for now. :(

No you are not!

Do the following...

Install your 3650 as a new modem either BT/IR in the advanced tab put
the following

AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet2.voicestream.com"

Start a new dialup connection for your new modem, no username/password
required the phone number to use is *99***1#

>My question is, does the 3650 support PPTP for standalone email pop
>operation? I'm thinking it doesn't, but maybe some company has written
>a pptp client.

The 3650 doesn't internally but you could use your 3650 a modem for
your pc that does. Of course if a 3rd party app were developed for the
Series 60 the 3650 certainly could be made to use PPTP.

>How about a (Checkpoint) VPN client? Any vpn client? I just want to
>pop mail off the exchange server at work.

You can set this up on the T-mobile site and access your exchange
server via the t-mobile wap site on the 3650 or any other wap enabled
phone as long as you have T-zones pro or higher. Otherwise when you
activate your account you'll need to ask for VPN support.

>Thanks,
>Dan
>please cc by email at dcarwin at yahoo dot com if you would - thanks.

Matthew

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Mark Henderson

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Jun 14, 2003, 1:05:44 AM6/14/03
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In article <23df947f.03061...@posting.google.com>,

DWC <dca...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Two things...
>
>First, for a T-mobile customer to use a gprs phone as a modem for a
>laptop you have to use the T-Mobile app called the "T-Mobile Internet
>Manager." This app recognizes your phone as a modem and operates it
>from the PC.

you don't really need this app. Pretty much every reasonably modern
phone does PPP. You dial *99# or some variation. There are special AT
commands to set the APN and other GPRS parameters. The details depend
on your phone.

AT+CGDCONT=,,"internet3.voicestream.com"
might work for you as an init string.
--
Mark Henderson
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OpenPGP/GnuPG keys available at http://www.squirrel.com/pgpkeys.asc
base64/HTML-only email addressed to me is automatically and silently discarded.

Prav

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Jun 14, 2003, 5:46:29 AM6/14/03
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first of all the t68 has horrible reception. i notice the same thing. at&t
has much stronger signal than tmobile. tmobile has weaker sercvice in most
areas that at&t also covers, but tmobile has a much larger area....either
way get another phone, sonyericson has weak reception.


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MS

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Jun 18, 2003, 9:39:53 AM6/18/03
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That's for people who are not T-mobile voice customers. For the latter,
$19.95 per month unlimited data, and one already has the voice minutes.

So, are they even doing away with the 2.99 1 MB plan? That one works for me.
Using the phone for T-zones, I never go over the 1 MB, usually not even
close. When I connect my laptop to the phone to connect to the Internet
wirelessly, that goes through CSD rather than GPRS, and comes from voice
minutes, not data. As I have 1000 anytime minutes, and unlimited weekend
minutes, that's also not a problem.

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MS

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Jun 18, 2003, 9:41:41 AM6/18/03
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"DWC" <dca...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Two things...
>
> First, for a T-mobile customer to use a gprs phone as a modem for a
> laptop you have to use the T-Mobile app called the "T-Mobile Internet
> Manager." This app recognizes your phone as a modem and operates it
> from the PC.

Yes, but----if you use the phone as a modem for the laptop, and do not use
that app, you connect via CSD, and it just comes from your voice minutes.


Bitablespore

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Jun 20, 2003, 5:48:21 PM6/20/03
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No, CSD calling is different.... If you have a gprs phone and, lets say you
have 2 accounts/profiles setup on the phone...(one for just WAP and the
other for internet access using internet2.voicestream.com, or internet3).
You dial the following GSM standard GPRS access code *99***X# where x= the
correct GPRS profile to use, usually 1 or 2. Your phone will connect to the
GPRS network and you will be using T-mobile as your ISP.

Regards,

Bitablespore
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MS

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Jun 21, 2003, 11:38:54 AM6/21/03
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I'm not sure what you mean by your statement below. Of course, CSD is
different than GPRS. I didn't say they were the same.

But when I connect my laptop to the Internet via my T-Mobile Motorola v60
phone, I do not use the "T-Mobile Internet Manager", I dial up the number of
my regular ISP (although I believe TM has a couple dial-up numbers as well,
at least they used to), using the phone as a modem, and it doesn't get
billed as data by the MB, but just comes from my minutes (which are
unlimited on weekends). That is CSD, as GPRS is billed by MB of data.

Yes, the GPRS is supposed to be faster, but it doesn't sound like it's so
much faster. I'm quite satisfied with the $2.99 per month data plan, which
lets me use the phone to read e-mail, I sometimes use the Search Tools like
Yellow Pages, etc., and never go over the 1 MB limit. When I use my laptop
connected to the phone, it connects via CSD, does not count against that MB
of data, and just comes from minutes, of which I have a lot. (1000 anytime,
unlimited weekends).

For new users, however, I don't know if they are offering the $2.99 plan any
more.


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Bitablespore

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Jun 21, 2003, 11:07:28 PM6/21/03
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I have a GPRS phone, and DO NOT use the "T-mobile internet Manager", however
I do use my GPRS connection, and not CSD. I am tracked by the MB, and not
voice minutes.

...below is the quote that prompted my previous response...

QUOTE "First, for a T-mobile customer to use a gprs phone as a modem for a


> > > laptop you have to use the T-Mobile app called the "T-Mobile Internet
> > > Manager." This app recognizes your phone as a modem and operates it
> > > from the PC.
> >
> > Yes, but----if you use the phone as a modem for the laptop, and do not
use
> > that app, you connect via CSD, and it just comes from your voice

minutes." ENDQUOTE

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MS

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Jun 22, 2003, 3:03:48 PM6/22/03
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"Bitablespore" <sscott.rem...@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I have a GPRS phone, and DO NOT use the "T-mobile internet Manager",
however
> I do use my GPRS connection, and not CSD. I am tracked by the MB, and not
> voice minutes.

Yes, when I connect directly with the phone, it is usually GPRS. (Unless it
has trouble contacting vis GPRS, then contacts via CSD as an alternative.)

But I was speaking about connecting my laptop to the Internet, just using
the phone as a modem. Is this what you did, and were billed by the MB for
bytes used? That would be surprising to me, as I'm not billed that way?

What phone number did you dial-up with? Try dialing your regular ISP, not a
number from SPCS.


Bitablespore

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Jun 24, 2003, 10:51:16 PM6/24/03
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I am dialing the GPRS access code, which is *99***1#. This accesses the
GPRS profile 1 that I have configured on my phone. This uses Tmobile as
your ISP.

Regards,

Bitablespore

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MS

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Jun 28, 2003, 11:54:00 PM6/28/03
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Try dialing instead your normal ISP, Bitable, and see which you get charged,
MB or minutes.

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Bitablespore

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Jul 1, 2003, 12:28:47 AM7/1/03
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...Well sure, if I was to use a CSD connection, and not the GPRS, I would be
charged by the minute...but this is way off the original topic...


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