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Ken Leung

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Jun 14, 2001, 11:33:40 PM6/14/01
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return to the original question...

I think the continent is identified as "Oceania", including Tasmania and NZ.
Nevertheless, American schools identify the continent as "Australia" which I
think is plain wrong.

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> In article <UTRV6.11957$gg2.1...@news1.mts.net>,
> Bun Mui <BunM...@hotmail.com> posted:
> > Is Australia- a country or continent?
> > Or both? Comments? Bun Mui
>
> It's an underall.
>
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Mike Oliver

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Jun 14, 2001, 11:39:08 PM6/14/01
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Ken Leung wrote:
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> return to the original question...
>
> I think the continent is identified as "Oceania", including Tasmania and NZ.

That makes no sense at all. New Zealand is something like 1000 miles from
the coast of Australia; it can't possibly be a continental island.

John W Hall

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Jun 15, 2001, 12:14:01 AM6/15/01
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 03:33:40 GMT, "Ken Leung" <kenl...@home.com>
wrote:

Perhaps, with all that beer they are reputed to drink, "incontinent"?

Odysseus

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Jun 15, 2001, 7:50:09 AM6/15/01
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Mike Oliver wrote:
> >
> > I think the continent is identified as "Oceania", including Tasmania and NZ.
>
And also the South Pacific islands: New Caledonia, Fiji, Tahiti &c.

> That makes no sense at all. New Zealand is something like 1000 miles from
> the coast of Australia; it can't possibly be a continental island.

I think that the "continent" of Oceania is using a sense of the word
meaning a geographic region rather than a strict geological definition.
Likewise the Caribbean islands are generally thought of as belonging to
North America despite their not being part of the continental landmass.

--Odysseus

Mike Oliver

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Jun 15, 2001, 8:08:19 AM6/15/01
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Ah. Well then the American schools are right to refer to both country
and continent as "Australia", because that's a silly definition of
"continent". Since I suspect Tasmania *is* a continental island
(though I don't know that), it seems quite likely that the continent
and the country are almost exactly coterminous.

Steve Hayes

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Jun 15, 2001, 3:07:42 PM6/15/01
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:39:08 -0700, Mike Oliver <oli...@math.ucla.edu> wrote:

>That makes no sense at all. New Zealand is something like 1000 miles from
>the coast of Australia; it can't possibly be a continental island.

I thought Australia was the West Island.

--
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frank

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Jun 15, 2001, 4:49:45 PM6/15/01
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Oceania is not a continent. It is more of a cultural, not strictly
geological term. It refers to those numerous islands including the Hawaiian
islands that are scattered across the Pacific. Fuji is a part of Oceania.
People and their languages in that region are part of Oceania.

Continents:

(1) Europe
(2) Asia
(1) + (2) == Eurasian continent. It is one monolithic plate.
(3) Australia
(4) Antarctica
(5) South America
(6) North America
(7) Africa

Indian Subcontinent is so called because 60 million years ago it was a
separate island/continent positioned close to Antarctica. Then it began to
drift up north. Finally it smashed into Asia. The Himalayan mountains are a
result of this collision. If you get up to the highest peaks you will find
remnants of marine animals there. Geologically India is different from the
rest of Asia. - f

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Odysseus

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Jun 15, 2001, 9:19:04 PM6/15/01
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frank wrote:
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> Oceania is not a continent. It is more of a cultural, not strictly
> geological term. It refers to those numerous islands including the Hawaiian
> islands that are scattered across the Pacific. Fuji is a part of Oceania.
> People and their languages in that region are part of Oceania.
>
I agree that Oceania isn't a continent geologically, but most atlases
I've seen are divided into the following sections: Europe, Asia,
Oceania, Africa, North America, and South America. Antarctica is usually
found in a 'miscellaneous' section including maps of the oceans and the
polar regions.

> Indian Subcontinent is so called because 60 million years ago it was a
> separate island/continent positioned close to Antarctica. Then it began to
> drift up north. Finally it smashed into Asia. The Himalayan mountains are a
> result of this collision. If you get up to the highest peaks you will find
> remnants of marine animals there. Geologically India is different from the
> rest of Asia. - f
>

I believe that Australia and India are actually on the same tectonic
plate -- its counterclockwise rotation carried the Indian end into Asia,
while the Australian end, near or on the centre of rotation, didn't move
nearly as far.

--Odysseus

Roger Jones

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Jun 15, 2001, 9:00:49 PM6/15/01
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"Mike Oliver" <oli...@math.ucla.edu> wrote in message
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Tasmania is most definitely a continental island. It is separated from the
Australian mainland (know to Tasmanians as the North Island) by a shallow
sea (Bass Strait) and has ancient geological units (600 my +) that continue,
without significant offset, onto the mainland. New Guinea, on the other
hand, is an island formed from volcanism following plate subduction. It is
neither truly oceanic nor continental (in a geological sense). There is no
geological continuity between Australia and New Guinea.

Many years ago in primary school we (Australian students, or the New South
Wales variety at least) were taught that the continent was Australasia and
the island (and country) was Australia (these days commonly pronounced
Stray-ya, the language of which is Strine). The word Australasia appears to
have fallen into decline and I noted a few years ago that the Australian TV
quiz show "Sale of the Century" rejected the answer Australasia as the
answer to the question "Which is the smallest continent?" in favour of
Australia.

Australia must therefore be the name of the continent as it is surely not
possible that Sale of the Century could be wrong.

Roger

There's a great deal to be said for brevity.


JB

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Jun 15, 2001, 9:15:01 PM6/15/01
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frank wrote:
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> Fuji is a part of Oceania.

Is that where the film comes from? --JB

Ken Leung

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Jun 16, 2001, 12:32:48 AM6/16/01
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<address....@web.site www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote
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> Australia
> The world's smallest continent, southeast of Asia
> between the Pacific and Indian oceans.
> - The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language.

That's the American way...
I found "Oceania" as a continent consists of NZ, Tasmina and all those
(including Australia) on an altas.

>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> Om Shanti
>

> In article <squW6.117$Um3....@eagle.america.net>,
> "frank" <frankvi...@hotmail.com> posted:

Ken Leung

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Jun 16, 2001, 12:33:37 AM6/16/01
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"John W Hall" <NOTwexse...@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 03:33:40 GMT, "Ken Leung" <kenl...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> Perhaps, with all that beer they are reputed to drink, "incontinent"?

Ah, that applies to the Germans, or more specifically, Bavarians :)
>


alexander dickson

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Jun 16, 2001, 9:27:38 AM6/16/01
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And what of the 'ring of fire' about Australia to the North and East?
Does your anti-clockwise rotation idea accommodate that?
alex

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frank

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Jun 16, 2001, 2:07:57 PM6/16/01
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Darn, mistakes should be acknowledged openly, for the sake of people
accepting the rest of what you are trying to peddle. It was not a typo. It
was in fact a weird blackout a la California.

Fuji is the highest mountain in Japan, also a film and camera maker. Fiji is
a set of islands somewhere in the Pacific. Right? - f

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frank

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Jun 16, 2001, 2:26:21 PM6/16/01
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Three more continents to worry about:

Gondwana - a geological name for the protocontinent before it split in so
many ways.
Atlantis - claimed to have existed (by Plato)
Lemuria - from the realm of wild imagination (?)


Aaron J Dinkin

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Jun 16, 2001, 6:37:03 PM6/16/01
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In alt.usage.english frank <frankvi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Gondwana - a geological name for the protocontinent before it split in so
> many ways.

Are you thinking of Pangaea? Gondwanaland (named after Gondwana, which
according to the AHD at bartleby.com is a region of central India) was one
of the two halves of Pangaea after it split up. Gondwanaland was the
southern one, consisting of the landmasses that are now South America,
Africa, India, Australia, and Antarctica; the northern one, consisting of
North America and Eurasia, is I believe called Laurasia.

-Aaron J. Dinkin
Dr. Whom

frank

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Jun 17, 2001, 1:02:15 PM6/17/01
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> Are you thinking of Pangaea?

A good question. I do not know what I am thinking of anymore and even if I
am thinking at all. Sorry - f


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