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HP Gino

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From: tani_j...@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: COS's eugenics unscientific
Date: 1999/09/29
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Hi there. I'm a Magistra in the COS and I'm a STALINIST. That means a
Communist of a type. Socialism in ONE NATION it was. Since NO ONE
here and most folks in the USA know nothing about things there - I
won't get into an argument. Even the Communists here know nothing of
Dzerzhinsky and the NarKomats which is essential to understanding the
FOUNDATION of the entire society...and ALL that happened later on,
too. SO MUCH slander has been heeped upon the Turanian Empire, ooops,
I mean the Soviet Union - and the Communist USSR ended with Khrushchev
because state capitalism is NOT communism in any way, shape or form.
Khrushchev dismantled the Narkomats and instated State Capitalism
(where the state is the only "corporation" - he even had an apparatchik
going). Americans know VERY LITTLE about this, hence my decline on a
dialogue of any kind. In fact, Europeans in general know very little
about the GEOGRAPHY of the place - it's very VERY alien. I wrote a
post on it: Turania. There are facts out there, Phil Marsh (also a
Magister in the COS who wrote "Evolution, Christians, and Setians" on
Vad's webpage) wrote a paper on it recently and is writing a short-form
of another paper, the long one to follow on botany/biology. Peter
Gimore was told about this paper 3-4 years ago - it took a LOT of
research and digging into archives - NOT JUST the Soviet ones, either.
It was VERY hard. But now? We're gonna get the truth out there one
way or the other.

I believe it was Thomas Jefferson that said that all men were created
equal and endowed with unalienable rights.... Stalin didn't say that.
You know NOTHING of the Soviet Union under Stalin (that came out
flamey - I don't intend to flame - it's just that YOU DO NOT know a
thing about it and neither do most people, tho they THINK they do, they
are CONVINCED they know and they often make assertive statements that
are SO WRONG that it's too much of a chore to even correct them. I
don't even try. IDGAF.) - but if you think that "collective" means
that everyone is alike and a clone - you are very WRONG. I'm a product
of that kind of people: I'm one of the most in-your-face BIG MOUTHS
out there, I not only don't care what herd does, I don't even KNOW what
herd does - they "don't exist" in my loka at all - like invisible
people with their invisible trends - and I was raised by THOSE SAME
PEOPLE with BIG MOUTHS. SOME of them had Dark Doctrines
(hence, "generational" satanic).

jewish satanist is another matter. He was flamed and got hurt
feelings. He is OBSESSING with Dr. LaVey, trying to insist the Doc is
Jewish and going insane over his birth-certificate name as if that
means anything. MY damned birth certificate has Tani Jantsang on it.
Well, MY NAME is "Tanijantsan ----last name omitted here" So the birth
record is WRONG. "Tanisan" is a form of my name, that is, I was called
that by relatives and they ought to know what my name is. Jewish
Satanist is OBSESSING - he has a real problem with his own Jewishness.
Aside from that, he LOVES capitalism - yet he doesn't work - he lives
on his parent's BIG money. I wonder who they exploited to get so
rich....

Listen, WORKERS, in fact, make every single thing you see, touch, feel,
and buy. WORKERS do this. there is everything right about a society
where WORKERS form councils (Soviets plural) and then set up Nar
(People's) Komats (comissions) - they elect the head of their Soviet
(council) and in turn that head elects a head of a larger council on up
to the Supreme Soviet WHO VOTED STALIN INTO POWER over and over, even
when he TRIED to resign about 5 times. I'm telling you what really was
there. Workers had the FINAL say and the society was ruled - BRUTALLY
at times, from the BOTTOM UP, from the WORKERS WHO MADE EVERYTHING, on
up to others. Democracy, what the majority of these workers wanted,
was brutally enforced. This is grossly lied about and for very good
reasons: NO ONE wants anyone else to get ideas to DO a thing like this
ever again. BY the worker, FOR the worker, OF the worker. Taxation
was by 100% representation and by golly gee, if you imagined you could
get PAID MONEY (people's money) to sit in a lab and hatch up theories,
your head would soon roll. PRODUCE SOMETHING - that was the law there
and for good reason. They had to BUILD a society in 10 years.... The
west had 200 years to do it and they could NOT accomplish it without
SLAVES and COOLIES to do it for them. When Stalin was elected, they
had the plow. Before Stalin died, they had the atom bomb. and then,
from nomadic wild horsemen living in tends in the wild steppes, from
peasants using sub-primitive methods (no toold) WE were the first in
space. So. Leave MY STALIN alone. I do not regard ANYONE in the
western European nations as Communist - NO ONE. They ALL seem to
follow the Trotsky line - liberal - MOSTLY JEWISH, too - maybe it's a
coincidence. Liberal ROT. ROT. NOTHING in nature is equal. But in
the SU everyone had an EQUAL RIGHT to school, food, work. Everyone
there was NOT a brain surgeon or rocket scientist - but ALL workers
were respected equally - there was NO difference between mental and
physical labor - labor was labor - even SCHOOL was labor because
children are working to educate themselves: that's work too. NO ONE
in the USA, and hardly anyone in Europe knows the truth about
overthere. I DO. There is VERY good reason to perpetuate the lies,
especially now.

And well, I'm a Magistra in the Church of Satan, as you might know.

Are you NOT in favor of worker rights here, higher pay? insurance?
quality jobs? quality schools? quality LIFE? Save neighborhoods?
All that? Everyone to have a TV or VCR or quality life? Are you NOT
in favor of the NKVD (cops) to brutally deal with crime? (Oh, I know
how MIM3 will respond to this. To that I have to say to him: GO FUCK
YOURSELF.) But about workers. Aside from COS doctrines etc etc,I
assume you work? Or have you been downsized yet? Got insurance that
pays well? Can you afford to go out and buy a new car with cash if the
old one breaks? Or a TV? Can you afford a serious illness if one
befalls you? You should be able to. The people who MAKE the cars
can't even afford to buy back ONE car - the product of their hard
labor. But they, collectively!, make MILLIONS of cars. The crisis in
capitalism now is that most folks can't afford to buy back the products
of labor. Let's not talk about credit cards - that doesn't count.
This is a debtor's society and NOTHING is going to stop the xian
coalition from reinstating Debtors jails here. Ie., pay up NOW or go
to jail! Right now also, 30 states legalize prisoners to be hired out
for labor doing jobs we do, clerical jobs too. They get paid $2 per
hour. They put people TRYING to get off welfare, out of jobs - they
eliminate union jobs and people's pensions, money they worked for
honestly their entire lives. Everything is falling apart and it's NOT
going to get better unless something radical happens. I'm in favor of
revolution HERE - by workers. MIM is not; they regard all white people
in the western 1st world as "a labor aristocracy." I agree with them.
BUT SO WHAT. Better to keep what we have and FIX IT - maybe STOP
exploiting other 3rd world nations that might get it into their heads
to GET EVEN with some germ warfare. Most people in the COS, I found
thru the years, know NOTHING of politics. I, on the other hand,
infiltrated (like a spy) the right wing for years. They have SOME good
ideas but are dupes to Big Corporations that don't give a flying fuck
about them. The Left has good labor ideas but just about nothing else
anymore as far as I can see. LEFTISM is NOT Communism. Far from it.
FAR FAR from it.

And btw: my FAVORITE character on Voyager Star Trek IS 7 of 9. HA!!

Anyway...CHOW.

Tani Jantsang

He says humyn and womyn and wimmin to "take the sexism" out of the
words. Hey, let me dress up like a clown: do you think that would
make me FUNNY? Oh, MIM3 and I go back a ways - he pissed me off.
That's not nice. Anyway, you said in a prior post that you never heard
of a COS member being a Communist. Well. I'm a Magistra. Does that
count? FYI, Doc LOVED Russian folk music! I sent him a tape.

In article <19990916050607...@ng-cp1.aol.com>,
whor...@aol.com (Whorror13) wrote:
> >The Church of Satan is a cult of >Communistic nazis
>
> How logical is this statement? The Nazis were strictly anti-
communist. One of
> Hitler's prime goals was the destruction of communism as we know it.
Communism
> and Nazism are completely different. Please read or even think before
you open
> your mouth.


>


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People's Commissar

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Sep 24, 2003, 3:28:33 AM9/24/03
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Oh my, not my post. Spoofed.

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Nomen Nescio

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Sep 24, 2003, 5:20:03 AM9/24/03
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You lying sack of Turainian shit! The message below has the same
originating IP as dozens of other messages that you have posted in the
past. Try again. Maybe you should get your lawyer (Ha!) to sue MIM. Maybe
you'll just get some of your flying monkeys to threaten them.

People's Commissar

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Sep 24, 2003, 9:18:39 PM9/24/03
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my deja messages were tanijantsang. There is a difference. MIM is a piece
of white-guilt supreme sack of shit garbage. To the MIM's "genocide of the
white males" is an expected necessity. Well, heh, FUCK THEM and anyone that
agrees. They weren't flaming when they said that kind of shit. They were
dead serious.

88 mother fucker, LMAO. (Hail Hel.?)

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Kevin Filan

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Sep 24, 2003, 9:36:30 PM9/24/03
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On 9/24/03 9:18 PM, in article
Pnrcb.7084$pB6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net, "People's Commissar"
<satan...@www.com> wrote:

> my deja messages were tanijantsang. There is a difference. MIM is a piece
> of white-guilt supreme sack of shit garbage. To the MIM's "genocide of the
> white males" is an expected necessity. Well, heh, FUCK THEM and anyone that
> agrees. They weren't flaming when they said that kind of shit. They were
> dead serious.

Ummm... Tani... you made approximately 880 posts as
tani_j...@my-deja.com. Anyone who goes to the Google archives can check
this for themselves.

If the post below *was* spoofed, it was spoofed on September 29, 1999, by
someone using your computer. Perhaps Radu snuck into your vinyl-covered
yurt and posted under your name... or was it the White Devil Gang? I find it
difficult to keep up with your excuses without a scorecard.

Original post left in, along with the Google citation: anyone who doubts
that this came from TJ's machine can check for themselves.

I'm wondering what the next excuse for this one will be. Anyone want to
start a betting pool?

Peace
Kevin Filan

George Orwell

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Not everyone is as stupid as Brendan and Les.


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"88 mother fucker, LMAO." -Tani Jantsang, neo-Nazi


Lord Egan

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Aunty Tanya your selective memory is amazing! It must be that bump on the
head!

Lord Egan

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Aunty Tanya your selective memory is amazing! It must be that bump on the
head!

Prole

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Sep 25, 2003, 5:00:23 AM9/25/03
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Mr. Whatever,

There is no IP in this email and many emails were forged and spoofed at that
account by anyone that had the password. Anyone with the password could log
in. People did log in. I even did it. I also accessed other's accounts
and posted. No big deal.

That Tani got online and spoke at times for the CoS as a Mag (note that this
was online, and only online, on usenet) is no big deal. And others did it
too "for" her. But it might be the only thing online people see, or focus
on. Keep in mind, this is online, it's virtual reality, not real life.
These are mere words. They are not deeds. She was also friendly toward the
other organizations and people at odds with your CoS and refused to bother
the FCoS or Raptis or Rinker, two people your CoS made into enemies. She
listened to what they had to say about what happened. There were other orgs
that printed Tani's stuff; orgs that had nothing to do with the CoS. Orgs
that also hated the CoS.

The fact is, Tani would probably still speak positive things about LaVey and
your organization had it not been for the few but dominatant in-gang
assholes in there, the same assholes exposed on the CoS Files, the same
assholes I encountered on the S-list, assholes and idiots. .

You try to take something we all regard as so small as to be insignificant
and make much ado about nothing. Membership in an org, any org CoS or other
(Tani memberships and titles or honorary titles in all of them, something
your drones get amnesia about) , titles in an org with techhnically no
membership (Tani had all that, too) all of this has nothing to do with what
is really important to anyone interested in knowledge, or interested in the
dark force or interested in the black flame. Genuine loners don't really
care about things like that. These orgs are peripheral, just a tool, it's
whatever - a tool - and it's never essential. This is what you and your
attack drones never understood.

You seem surprised that anyone could possibly say "oh you are so wonderful,
so great" and then in private to others say "he's a total know nothing, he
knows nothing at all about the two main things, dark force and black flame."
Ask Lucinda what shock she got the first time she talked to Tani and found
out what Tani really thought about "Doc." Go ahead. Or just read what
Michael Rose had to say. So here on usenet, "on stage" you see Tani saying
how great Doc is. And others say it for Tani too, I did it, Casey did it,
quite a few people did it. People stopped doing that when my-deja went
down.

Tani could say very positive things about LaVey or the CoS while at the same
time, write a letter trashing them for what they really are without using
lies or distortions . Why are you surprised at that? You shouldn't be.
This is what CoS members pride themselves on being able to do. SNOW PEOPLE.
Do you really believe that everyone you meet that tells you how cute you are
and how wonderful you are, doesn't tell someone else that you are an ugly
asshole? Come on! "But you said you liked me, you did, you said you liked
me." Are you going to say that if you find out the person can't stand you
and talked behind your back? Maybe he likes you sometimes and can't stand
you other times? Come on, Kevin.

Bottom line is this. Actions speak LOUDER than words, Kevin. Nothing in
any of the stuff sold by Tani is derivitive of the CoS, LaVey or any CoS
members - period. Much of it contradicts the mouthings of LaVey. 99% of it
is outside the LaVeyan realm. From the time-period after the CoS people
read Tani's stuff, their literature became FILLED with ideas, articles,
expressions and words directly borrowed from the Dark Doctrines. These are
actions and deeds. This is also a matter of record that anyone can look up.
LaVey might have gotten a tip of the hat in one article Phil wrote, but he
was never used as a source for any important information or for any idea..
Never.

That is quite simply, the bottom line. Deeds. They are real. Words are
nothing. You know it. I know it. And we both know that all this fussing
has nothing to do with words. You also know that while Tani wrote some
positive posts, and others wrote them "for" her - Tani was also very
friendly to enemies of the CoS. Or maybe you don't know that. It doesn't
matter. I'm sure you know it. Gilmore must have told his in-gang (you
included) that Tani refused to flame or bother Egan and that Tani was quite
friendly with Les Masters, Rick Rinker and John Raptis. This was common
knowledge.

Bottom line here and now, Kevin is this. We have our own org. The founders
of it are the same group of people that were DDoc people the entire time.
The only person that was a CoS member among the founders (a person that
never contributed anything DDoc and was just not one of us) is gone, out,
was never one of us and is a stranger in real life, unlike the others who
personally know each other and have known each other for years. You could
say he was driven out or strongly encouraged to leave. These are deeds,
Kevin. Deeds are real. Words are nothing. We are both gay. How many
times have we met people we thought were open and found out later that they
hated us for our lifestyle?

There is nothing you or your socks or drones can say that can lessen the SR
and the DDocs. We are strong and we have the gold. Bottom line, that's it.
Deeds.

Don't you think you ought to concern yourself with your own pedophilic and
abusive/abusee problems right now with regards to two prominent
"in-Gilmore-group" spokespeople that appeared on television?

Bren.


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Prole

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Nice try, but the "LMAO" gave it away. God, you people are stupid. God,
you people are suckers. God you people are obsessed. Push the button - the
drones react.

88 mofo. Yeah, LOL. It means HAIL HELL. But I can see where your head
was.

Bren

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Kevin Filan

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On 9/25/03 5:00 AM, in article vn5c35f...@corp.supernews.com, "Prole"
<pr...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Mr. Whatever,
>
> There is no IP in this email and many emails were forged and spoofed at that
> account by anyone that had the password.

Check the line that says:

X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x28.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client
63.14.122.76

Now check out a dozen or so of the other posts made by the account: you'll
see 63.14.* connected with all of them. That suggests that they were all
posted from the same dialup.

So you can keep trying to pretend that someone else posted that
anti-Semitic, Kahlua-fueled rant and signed Tani's name to it... but I don't
think you're going to convince anyone who doesn't want to be convinced.

(FWIW, I don't think that post reflects particularly well on the CoS either.
I think we should have booted Tani out on her wrinkled ass long before we
did, since she was a public and private embarrassment. Thankfully, we've
since learned our lesson... ).

> Anyone with the password could log
> in. People did log in. I even did it. I also accessed other's accounts
> and posted. No big deal.
>
> That Tani got online and spoke at times for the CoS as a Mag (note that this
> was online, and only online, on usenet) is no big deal.

"I was NEVER a MAGISTRA in the CHURCH OF SATAN!!! I NEVER used that
title!!!"

Oh what a tangled web we weave when we're a senile old coot with no impulse
control and a serious drinking problem.

> The fact is, Tani would probably still speak positive things about LaVey and
> your organization had it not been for the few but dominatant in-gang
> assholes in there, the same assholes exposed on the CoS Files, the same
> assholes I encountered on the S-list, assholes and idiots. .

She would probably still speak positive things about LaVey and our
organization if we hadn't thrown her out. But we did, so as a result she's
gone on a multiyear shrieking spree against the people who took away her
precious.

> Tani could say very positive things about LaVey or the CoS while at the same
> time, write a letter trashing them for what they really are without using
> lies or distortions . Why are you surprised at that? You shouldn't be.

I'm not: coherence and consistency have never been strong points with Tani.
Neither have impulse control or the ability to take responsibility for her
actions. Your point being?

And, once again, here's the original post, along with a Deja link so anyone
can check for themselves and see what I'm saying.

Dagon Productions

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Prole wrote:

>
>You seem surprised that anyone could possibly say "oh you are so wonderful,
>so great" and then in private to others say "he's a total know nothing, he
>knows nothing at all about the two main things, dark force and black flame."
>Ask Lucinda what shock she got the first time she talked to Tani and found
>out what Tani really thought about "Doc." Go ahead. Or just read what
>Michael Rose had to say. So here on usenet, "on stage" you see Tani saying
>how great Doc is. And others say it for Tani too, I did it, Casey did it,
>quite a few people did it. People stopped doing that when my-deja went
>down.
>

So your, and the others mentioned, words have no integrity on usenet it
seems.
Some of us feel that there is no need to fiddle fart around with talking
behind
peoples backs... I don't say things behind peoples backs that I have
not said to their face and if I find out someone is talking behind my
back...
I cut them out of my life like cancer... ask some of the occult folk around
Phoenix... kicked them to the fucking curb for such bullshit behavior.

>Bottom line is this. Actions speak LOUDER than words, Kevin.
>

So what "Actions" have you taken that speak louder than words... you are
nobody
to me and as such your opinion means squat until you prove yourself...
what have you
accomplished in life... anything of note whatsoever... got your GED if
you are lucky
I imagine.

>
>That is quite simply, the bottom line. Deeds. They are real. Words are
>nothing. You know it. I know it. A
>

And you spout nothing but words here... post a url that shows a "Deed"
you have
accomplished.

>There is nothing you or your socks or drones can say that can lessen the SR
>and the DDocs. We are strong and we have the gold. Bottom line, that's it.
>Deeds.
>

Again what "Deeds" have you (not the sr or tani but you) accomplished?
And being a sycophant is not much of a "Deed."

>
>Don't you think you ought to concern yourself with your own pedophilic and
>abusive/abusee problems right now with regards to two prominent
>"in-Gilmore-group" spokespeople that appeared on television?
>
>Bren.
>
>
>

I'm sure there is a plethora of dysfunctions you could be concerning
yourself
with... esp. considering that you joined a group with such a nutcase as a
spokesperson.

Put up or shut up.

-Douglas

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Dagon Productions

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Sep 25, 2003, 9:29:14 PM9/25/03
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Prole wrote:

>Nice try, but the "LMAO" gave it away. God, you people are stupid. God,
>you people are suckers. God you people are obsessed. Push the button - the
>drones react.
>
>88 mofo. Yeah, LOL. It means HAIL HELL. But I can see where your head
>was.
>
>Bren
>
>
>

Oh does it now? You really have your head up firmly lodged in your
sphincter.
This an intellectual "Deed?"... well you have fallen on your face
dumbass.

Do a google search on "88 HH Hitler" and get a clue.

People's Commissar

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Sep 26, 2003, 5:13:12 AM9/26/03
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Oh Filan, CoS's new Sturmbanfuehrer of the attack drones.

Jackson, Jeff and Casey were here luv. In Fort Myers. This just HAPPENS to
be a post I did not make. I did some "DOC SAID" goodies to Prinn - the
"snide" dripping from my chin.

Listen Filan - we all know that Peg and Pete told you and your drones to
"attack." I don't seriously see why since SR uses none of your stuff and
none of us would BOTHER you assholes if you left us alone.

That simple. Sure, sure, I said some SURELY RIGHT good stuff about Anton on
here where your puppies would see it (and said other stuff to others where
you wouldn't see it) - what the fuck man, your org was DOing so many things
for me. But go to "attack other people and orgs" for your org when I
actually got online? Fuck no. Pay me. No pay? Fuck you. Your members
were ASSHOLES - something I discovered from Rinker and Raptis, not so much
from Egan. They told the truth - I agreed with them and that was that.
Welcome to the COS Files. In that order. There is nothing more or less to
it. It is THAT simple - and that simple minded.

Go fight a 25 year organizational war with the air.


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> On 9/25/03 5:00 AM, in article vn5c35f...@corp.supernews.com, "Prole"
> <pr...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > Mr. Whatever,
> >
> > There is no IP in this email and many emails were forged and spoofed at
that
> > account by anyone that had the password.
>
> Check the line that says:
>
> X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x28.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client
> 63.14.122.76

OrgName: UUNET Technologies, Inc.
OrgID: UUDA
Address: 22001 Loudoun County Parkway
City: Ashburn
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20147
Country: US

I am not in Virginia. But Jackson and B surely were.

Signing off.

SNIP


People's Commissar

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Sep 26, 2003, 5:23:16 AM9/26/03
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Hi spaniel,

It means whatever anyone wants it to mean. With "LMAO" next to it - it
means what we say it means.

Now - GET A LIFE. Prove you have one . Prove you don't take orders from
your fucking moron Pete and Pegsters.

25 year organizational war. You got 25 years, rube?

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People's Commissar

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Sep 26, 2003, 5:23:15 AM9/26/03
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When no "money" or "business" is involved, no problem. There was that
involved with CoS - to some extent. They DID stuff for me.

I'm not going to repeat it again.

Do I lie and deceive people I'd sooner spit on? Yes. WOW.

"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:3F739572...@earthlink.net...


>
> So your, and the others mentioned, words have no integrity on usenet it
> seems.

Are you an idiot? USENET? Lemme go look up the words of the Davis couple
regarding Egan. That would be a good start. No, I don't have time to
fiddle with that kind of PETTY shit. Who cares? Do you think ANYONE worth
it reads usenet or cares what's on here? Jesus freaking Christ - you are
nowhere if you think that.

> Some of us feel that there is no need to fiddle fart around with talking
> behind
> peoples backs...

No, your org prides itself on deceit, con artistry, and duping rubes. Your
Fuehrer Anton said so.

Now go suck on a lollipop.

I don't say things behind peoples backs that I have
> not said to their face and if I find out someone is talking behind my
> back...
> I cut them out of my life like cancer... ask some of the occult folk
around
> Phoenix... kicked them to the fucking curb for such bullshit behavior.

You are laboring hard under the presumption that Brendan knows who you are
or would give a shit if he did know who you were. Did he ever ONCE ask you
a question? Nope.


>
> >Bottom line is this. Actions speak LOUDER than words, Kevin.
> >
> So what "Actions" have you taken that speak louder than words... you are
> nobody
> to me and as such your opinion means squat until you prove yourself...
> what have you
> accomplished in life... anything of note whatsoever... got your GED if
> you are lucky
> I imagine.

Heh, you don't know B either, or what degrees he has. Good. It's not your
concern. You don't know him. He doesn't know you.


>
> >
> >That is quite simply, the bottom line. Deeds. They are real. Words are
> >nothing. You know it. I know it. A
> >
> And you spout nothing but words here... post a url that shows a "Deed"
> you have
> accomplished.

Are you actually and seriously asking a person that regards you and your CoS
gang enemies to TALK to you sincerely? LMAO. You're funny!


>
> >There is nothing you or your socks or drones can say that can lessen the
SR
> >and the DDocs. We are strong and we have the gold. Bottom line, that's
it.
> >Deeds.
> >
> Again what "Deeds" have you (not the sr or tani but you) accomplished?
> And being a sycophant is not much of a "Deed."

You are presuming and asking questoins again? LMAO. Carry on puppy. DO
YOUR JOB and FLAME US for the CHURCH OF SATAN.


>
> >
> >Don't you think you ought to concern yourself with your own pedophilic
and
> >abusive/abusee problems right now with regards to two prominent
> >"in-Gilmore-group" spokespeople that appeared on television?
> >
> >Bren.
> >
> >
> >
> I'm sure there is a plethora of dysfunctions you could be concerning
> yourself
> with...

I'm not a nutcase. But you, your org leaders, and the entire STUPID ASS
Devil cult shit is NUTCASE supreme.

YOU put up now, or shut up.

This is a question for Nadramia that quite a few people asked me to
ask I have the background tid bits which makes all the more
hilarious.

Recall that you, Nadramia, emailed about 10 pleading emails lecturing
me on and on, with Gilmore's help, about the Supreme Danger of Lord
Egan having anything to do with Satanism because of his decades old,
long gone (formerly unknown and obscure) membership in, and reading of
material from - Nambla.

I countered repeatedly that he never committed a crime.

You countered with (what I seriously thought were impossibly absurd
and even illegal activity) details about Nambla.

I countered that perhaps Egan had no idea it represented all that -
and that he quit it ages ago. He did quit it ages ago. It was you
guys that dredged that up to begin with.

You, Nadramia, kept on with your incessant bringing up of SRA SRA SRA
and more SRA. You said "S R A."

I ignored it.

Jacueline Davis went on and on about the SRA SRA SRA dangers of having
a person like Lord Egan involved with Satanism in any way. She came
to realize that I just didn't believe it or believe the info about
Nambla. It was too impossible to believe. As for your cult praising
his deranged act as if it was some sort of honorable ritual sacrifice,
I need not say much at all. IDIOT.

Gabielle Gidney, your bosom buddy the Lady Ygraine went on and on
about SRA. And I mean all three of them (Y, J and JD) used the
specific term SRA multiple times, as did YOU, Nadramia. She went on
hysterically about 4 year old children and grown men and got all over
my case because I poopooed the DANGER that she thought Lord Egan posed
to satanism for some short term, long past membership in that org.

Nadramia - what do you have to say NOW about a woman, your best buddie
there, that endured over ELEVEN YEARS of (ritualized?) abuse from your
own elevated high Satanic Priest and Grotto Master William Gidney?
What do you have to say now about the real pedophile and abuse charges
against this man that appeared in a national TV show with YOU in it
Gilmore in it, who with his wife (the repeatedly abused woman -
consider that they also DID rituals, heh) spoke for the Church of
Satan and arrogantly "all of satanism." What do you have to say now
that these people appeared in that national TV show DOING rituals with
you and the HP, representing Satanism, when it has come out that this
abuse and other garbage was going on AT THE TIME of this show? For 11
years it went on.

In lieu of Russel Smith (he claims he LEFT the CoS and since there was
no rancor on his part, he is believable), in lieu of your praising a
deranged act as honorable and some ritual, in lieu of so much of this
and THIS HERE to top off the cake:

Nadramia: IS THIS NOT A THREAT TO ALL OF SATANISM due to SRA SRA SRA?

Lemme hear ya squirm out of that one.

I have nothing MORE to say unless your storm troopers keep up their
typical, libelous, stupid, off-key shit, such as inventing stories
about me or my friends and then wasting their time talking about it as
if their own invented fantasied are true, or messing with more
innocent people that aren't even satanists. I have to wonder what you
have to say to Aquino for the SHIT LaVey tried to pull on him AND his
wife. Serious shit. I have to wonder what you have to say to Lord
Egan, who never molested a kid at all, now that you and your storm
troopers ruined HIS chances to get on TV and represent Satanism.

You lit the fire. You put up the stake. You tried to put quite a few
people on that stake. Now YOU are on it and the fire is under you and
yours.

IS YOUR ORG, OR IS NOT YOUR OWN HIGH PRIESTHOOD ITSELF A THREAT TO ALL
OF SATANISM BECAUSE IT WILL LINK IT TO SRA SRA SRA? Yes, according
to your own criteria - IT IS.

If you gave a flying hell about your satanism, you'd hand it over to
Satan Shop and let someone decent, normal, mature and FRIENDLY to
LaVeyanism like Audy take over the Church of Satan. YOU ARE A DANGER
TO ALL OF SATANISM as are all of your friends.

Or perhaps Ole Wolf and Amina will desire to take it over. Heh.

Tani Jantsang

George Orwell

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People's Commissar wrote:
>
> Backpedal down the bullsit river!


880 posts with the same IP! YOUR IP you dumb fucker!

Now go give your uncle Sasha another kid!


Dagon Productions

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People's Commissar wrote:

>When no "money" or "business" is involved, no problem. There was that
>involved with CoS - to some extent. They DID stuff for me.
>
>I'm not going to repeat it again.
>
>Do I lie and deceive people I'd sooner spit on? Yes. WOW.
>
>
>

I don't find it necessar to lie or deceive people I would rather spit
on... in the long
run it only weakens your position.

>
>"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:3F739572...@earthlink.net...
>
>
>>So your, and the others mentioned, words have no integrity on usenet it
>>seems.
>>
>>
>
>Are you an idiot? USENET? Lemme go look up the words of the Davis couple
>regarding Egan. That would be a good start. No, I don't have time to
>fiddle with that kind of PETTY shit. Who cares? Do you think ANYONE worth
>it reads usenet or cares what's on here? Jesus freaking Christ - you are
>nowhere if you think that.
>
>

I've never lied on Usenet... no need to. But you do which says quite a
bit about you.

>
>
>>Some of us feel that there is no need to fiddle fart around with talking
>>behind
>>peoples backs...
>>
>>
>
>No, your org prides itself on deceit, con artistry, and duping rubes. Your
>Fuehrer Anton said so.
>
>

I've told you this previously... I am not a member of the CoS and never
have been.
Projection on your part granny.

>Now go suck on a lollipop.
>

Oh... more of that oral fixation.

>
> I don't say things behind peoples backs that I have
>
>
>>not said to their face and if I find out someone is talking behind my
>>back...
>>I cut them out of my life like cancer... ask some of the occult folk
>>
>>
>around
>
>
>>Phoenix... kicked them to the fucking curb for such bullshit behavior.
>>
>>
>
>You are laboring hard under the presumption that Brendan knows who you are
>or would give a shit if he did know who you were. Did he ever ONCE ask you
>a question? Nope.
>

Not at all... just making a statement on how I conduct my affairs with
people that
talk behind my back.

>
>
>>>Bottom line is this. Actions speak LOUDER than words, Kevin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>So what "Actions" have you taken that speak louder than words... you are
>>nobody
>>to me and as such your opinion means squat until you prove yourself...
>>what have you
>>accomplished in life... anything of note whatsoever... got your GED if
>>you are lucky
>>I imagine.
>>
>>
>
>Heh, you don't know B either, or what degrees he has. Good. It's not your
>concern. You don't know him. He doesn't know you.
>

Exactly... so let his "actions" speak louder than words... let the boy
speak for himself grandma.

>
>
>>>That is quite simply, the bottom line. Deeds. They are real. Words are
>>>nothing. You know it. I know it. A
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>And you spout nothing but words here... post a url that shows a "Deed"
>>you have
>>accomplished.
>>
>>
>
>Are you actually and seriously asking a person that regards you and your CoS
>gang enemies to TALK to you sincerely? LMAO. You're funny!
>

Once again I am not a CoS member... never have been.

>
>
>>>There is nothing you or your socks or drones can say that can lessen the
>>>
>>>
>SR
>
>
>>>and the DDocs. We are strong and we have the gold. Bottom line, that's
>>>
>>>
>it.
>
>
>>>Deeds.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Again what "Deeds" have you (not the sr or tani but you) accomplished?
>>And being a sycophant is not much of a "Deed."
>>
>>
>
>You are presuming and asking questoins again? LMAO. Carry on puppy. DO
>YOUR JOB and FLAME US for the CHURCH OF SATAN.
>

Why would I waste my time working for them... I do this for my own
enjoyment.

>
>
>>>Don't you think you ought to concern yourself with your own pedophilic
>>>
>>>
>and
>
>
>>>abusive/abusee problems right now with regards to two prominent
>>>"in-Gilmore-group" spokespeople that appeared on television?
>>>
>>>Bren.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I'm sure there is a plethora of dysfunctions you could be concerning
>>yourself
>>with...
>>
>>
>
>I'm not a nutcase. But you, your org leaders, and the entire STUPID ASS
>Devil cult shit is NUTCASE supreme.
>
>

Yes, you are... keep projecting that I am a member of CoS... this
delusion seems
persistant for you.

>YOU put up now, or shut up.
>
>This is a question for Nadramia that quite a few people asked me to
>ask I have the background tid bits which makes all the more
>hilarious.
>
>Recall that you, Nadramia, emailed about 10 pleading emails lecturing
>me on and on, with Gilmore's help, about the Supreme Danger of Lord
>Egan having anything to do with Satanism because of his decades old,
>long gone (formerly unknown and obscure) membership in, and reading of
>material from - Nambla.
>
>

You are mistaking me for someone else... I've never did anything with
Gilmores help or gave a
rats ass about Egan. You are delusional.

You are off in lala land granny. Get it straight... I have not been in
the past or present
a member of the CoS.

Dagon Productions

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People's Commissar wrote:

>Hi spaniel,
>
Hey I know you wish I was a dog so you could revel in smelling my ass.

>
>It means whatever anyone wants it to mean. With "LMAO" next to it - it
>means what we say it means.
>

Actually it has a specific meaning... but you obviously don't care for
facts... just make shit
up as you go... isnt that how the DD came about?

>
>Now - GET A LIFE. Prove you have one . Prove you don't take orders from
>your fucking moron Pete and Pegsters.
>

I've never taken an order from anyone in the CoS... that is
laughable.... more
delusions on your part granny.

I do have a life... at least the press here in town thinks so... since
my art gallery/
bookstore has been voted the "Best Underground Bookstore" and "Best New
Art Gallery" in here in town. Pretty good for being open less than a
year and
paying for no advertising whatsoever. I just published a book to rave
reviews
and many other things I've acomplished that are easily proven.

>
>25 year organizational war. You got 25 years, rube?
>
>
>

I'm sure I'll be around for another 25 years but in anycase its not my
war...
so blast away at each other... you only weaken your position by making
erroneous projections regarding who I am.

-Douglas

People's Commissar

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Sep 27, 2003, 2:13:35 AM9/27/03
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DID ANYONE ASK YOU ABOUT YOURSELF OR HOW YOU DO THINGS?

I didn't. No one I know did.

"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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>
snip


People's Commissar

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WHO THE FUCK CARES? NO ONE ASKED. You addressed this to WHOM? ME? What
the hell made you th ink I knew or wanted to know a thing about YOU, or what
YOU DO? I never asked. I don't care. I see, however, that you butt YOUR
snooze into my ass here, given the chance. You must read my posts. I read
about 1% of your posts - most of which were your dick fight with Shaw -
reading one was enough. I didn't read the rest. I have NO idea what you
said to him. Or he to you. Guess you didn't realize that. <Dagon hits his
head and says: OH>

Congrats on whatever. Good good, all good. Whatever it is. I have NO CLUE
what you do - get the idea?

You mistakenly think I KNEW what you did or what you do. NOPE - DID NOT
KNOW. And I also never asked. I don't personally give a shit about what ANY
of you satanpoos do or get into. I know what I do, did, how I made my money
working in the past - retired, moves where I chose to move, enjoy what I
choose to enjoy, what I have is what I want. All that. It's nobody's
business, really. I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks about
it - but to think I'd ever TELL YOU my sincere business is a LAUGH. You
gotta be KIDDING.

I lie to my enemies. YES. I say things like "88 mother fucker" to bust
their chops, yes. It gives them more to FLAME ME with for Petty and Piggy -
I give them things with which to spend their lives and obsess on. I take
the cue from THEM. Here you are, on usenet. LMAO. Yeah, me too - but at
least I know I'm slumming. You don't know that (yet).

"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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>
>
> People's Commissar wrote:
>
> >Hi spaniel,
> >

SNIP personal bullshit about "The Life of Dagon."


Dagon Productions

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You still don't get the dynamics of Usenet do you net kook?

Considering all the misassumptions you have made regarding my
organizational affiliations I can post whatever I desire without
requiring the permission or prompting of anyone else.

-Douglas

People's Commissar wrote:

--

Dagon Productions

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People's Commissar wrote:

>WHO THE FUCK CARES? NO ONE ASKED. You addressed this to WHOM? ME? What
>the hell made you th ink I knew or wanted to know a thing about YOU, or what
>YOU DO? I never asked. I don't care. I see, however, that you butt YOUR
>snooze into my ass here, given the chance. You must read my posts. I read
>about 1% of your posts - most of which were your dick fight with Shaw -
>reading one was enough. I didn't read the rest. I have NO idea what you
>said to him. Or he to you. Guess you didn't realize that. <Dagon hits his
>head and says: OH>
>
>

For the record it is that you butted your head into a thread that was an
exchange between
me and Brendan, not you... so I didn't address you or your
misperceptions until you butted in.

>Congrats on whatever. Good good, all good. Whatever it is. I have NO CLUE
>what you do - get the idea?
>
>You mistakenly think I KNEW what you did or what you do. NOPE - DID NOT
>KNOW. And I also never asked. I don't personally give a shit about what ANY
>of you satanpoos do or get into. I know what I do, did, how I made my money
>working in the past - retired, moves where I chose to move, enjoy what I
>choose to enjoy, what I have is what I want. All that. It's nobody's
>business, really. I don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks about
>it - but to think I'd ever TELL YOU my sincere business is a LAUGH. You
>gotta be KIDDING.
>
>

Its quite hilarious that someone make statements like you do above but
wastes time
replying to posts, that are supposedly inconsequential, in overblown
length.

>I lie to my enemies. YES. I say things like "88 mother fucker" to bust
>their chops, yes. It gives them more to FLAME ME with for Petty and Piggy -
>I give them things with which to spend their lives and obsess on. I take
>the cue from THEM. Here you are, on usenet. LMAO. Yeah, me too - but at
>least I know I'm slumming. You don't know that (yet).
>
>

Yes, I realize I'm slumming... you are here.

The hilarious thing about you is that you will respond with 10 words for
every 1 one
I type... here you are usenet frittering you twilight years away typing
nonsensical
projections left and right. The concept of efficient use of time and
words is lost
on you.

>"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:3F74A08A...@earthlink.net...
>
>
>>People's Commissar wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi spaniel,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>SNIP personal bullshit about "The Life of Dagon."
>
>
>
>

Also snipping the part where you smell my butt as well
as your many incorrect assumptions.

Mullah Victor Ibn Ash-Shaitan©

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Dagon Productions <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:3F75F59C...@earthlink.net:


> The hilarious thing about you is that you will respond with 10 words
> for every 1 one
> I type... here you are usenet frittering you twilight years away
> typing nonsensical
> projections left and right. The concept of efficient use of time and
> words is lost
> on you.

It is pretty funny to note, but no amount of good advice you give the old
bat (or her last public asslicker) is going to alter her behavior in the
slightest. These people would have literally *no* raison d'etre if it
weren't for this newsgroup and their neverending campaign of meddling,
shit-disturbing and trying to spread their own misery around to others.
Truth to fuckin' tell.

Cheers,

Victor

Kori Houghton

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"People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message news:<8ATcb.6069$pP6...@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...


> 25 year organizational war. You got 25 years, rube?

Satanic Reds has been feuding with CoS for 25 years? Who knew? How
long were you a Magistra then, Commissar?

Kori

Lisa

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Sep 28, 2003, 2:57:04 AM9/28/03
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Screaming Mimi First Class, in the key of A: <<So here on usenet, "on stage"

you see Tani saying how great Doc is. And others say it for Tani too, I did it,
Casey did it, quite a few people did it. People stopped doing that when
my-deja went down.>>

Dagon: <<So your, and the others mentioned, words have no integrity on usenet


it seems. Some of us feel that there is no need to fiddle fart around with
talking behind peoples backs...>>

Excellent point, Dagon.

I have been asking for literally years now why exactly it is that this
allegedly free, "proud" bunch of Neo-Mongolian, pseudo-Dagonian, Floridian
yurt-dwellers feels any need whatsoever to make nice to ANYone (forgive the
caps) that they dislike.

I can tell you, I never waste my time tolerating people *I* hate. But no....
it's all in the name of "ORGANIZATIONAL WARS" of decade's duration.... but you
know what?.... nothing ever comes of this "WAR". Is the CoS shut down? No. Have
the so-called "Satanic Reds" become more credible? No. How do we know? Because
if the SR were doing all that well, we wouldn't see EX-Magistra here posting
endless screeds about the DD or who knows what-all to an audience (us) she
proclaims she despises and views as worthless. She's so desperate, she even
seeks the company of those she claims to hate: the online community.

<<Bottom line is this. Actions speak LOUDER than words, Kevin.>>

<<So what "Actions" have you taken that speak louder than words... >>

Zing! Oh Dagon.... it's all "SECRET" stuff, you know. CIA and all that! Yes
it's true: the SR have deep CIA ties! ::snicker:: Actually, one could fairly
remark that Kevin's actions do speak louder than his words: he has a job and
leads a productive life: he's not wasting his time cultivating people he
secretly despises and then outing their chatlogs on Usenet, or on webpages. He
is capable of long-term close relationships, which is more than some here can
boast. Those are actions that speak loudly very indeed.

<<That is quite simply, the bottom line. Deeds. They are real. Words are
nothing. You know it. I know it.>>

<<And you spout nothing but words here... post a url that shows a "Deed" you
have accomplished.>>

For shame!!!! Phyllis & co are a very serious bunch - after all, didn't they
just put the legal blocks to Poodles via long-distance lawyer? Now those are
the deeds of song and story! Genghis would be proud! I feel an urge to grab my
harp and compose an epic poem commemorating the event. Where is Homer when you
need him?!

And Phyl tried to take a piece of Gerbler's estate, did she not? The list of
her mighty deeds grows longer 'ere the minute! A force to be reckoned with,
wouldn't you say....?

Mimi#1: <<Don't you think you ought to concern yourself with your own


pedophilic and abusive/abusee problems right now with regards to two prominent
"in-Gilmore-group" spokespeople that appeared on television?>>

Right after you commit your beloved Headbump Harridan to the nearest state
mental facility, you shrill, frothing, overcompensating little pantywaist. How
powerless every last one of you is. How much I enjoy that realization.

Sincerely: L.

People's Commissar

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Xori: "Tani, you have to realize that the Church of Satan engaged in a
twenty-five year long organizational war with the Temple of Set." Point
taken to heart.

"Kori Houghton" <koriho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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SNIP


Courageous Jessica

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People's Commissar wrote:
>
> Xori: "Tani, you have to realize that the Church of Satan engaged in a
> twenty-five year long organizational war with the Temple of Set." Point
> taken to heart.

Most of which was conducted IRL by Tani and her gang of rabid flying monkey

sycophants. Tani use to brag of such deeds! Of course her head bump has
conveniently erased all memory of those days.

Prole

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Sep 28, 2003, 3:48:19 AM9/28/03
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Oooo. Considering you butted into a threat I was in with NOT YOU, heh. You
bitched at Tani butting in? HA, nice try, sycophant.

"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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Prole

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We, you and I, were not having an exchange. You butted into the flame I was
in with another sycophant, you butted in, predicatably on cue.

Understand something, puppy, they start the shit with us as an org. Despite
the fact that we have the gold and friendly people, and they have the
pedophiles and abusers, we don't take smacks without stomping back.

Is that exchange enough for you? Hope so.

"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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Kevin Filan

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On 9/28/03 3:52 AM, in article vne29n3...@corp.supernews.com, "Prole"
<pr...@nospam.com> wrote:

> We, you and I, were not having an exchange. You butted into the flame I was
> in with another sycophant, you butted in, predicatably on cue.
>
> Understand something, puppy, they start the shit with us as an org. Despite
> the fact that we have the gold and friendly people, and they have the
> pedophiles and abusers, we don't take smacks without stomping back.


Our organization has several published authors, a few musicians, and is
regularly cited by scholars and journalists. Name one Satanic Red who has
appeared in the news recently. Name one journalist who has interviewed a
"Satanic Red" as a representative of organized Satanism, or "New Deal
Communism" or... well, anything.

The simple fact is that, for most of the outsiders, the Church of Satan IS
organized Satanism... and the Satanic Reds are a website and a mailing list
which exists solely to provide entertainment on alt.satanism. You may not
like this; you may deny it strongly; you may even claim that everyone who
laughs at you is part of a Church of Satan plot to "discredit" the Satanic
Reds. But, in the end, your opinion doesn't really matter, does it?

But do feel free to flounce around and continue offering excuses for her
misbehavior. It wouldn't be a circus if we didn't have a bunch of clowns
climbing out of their little red car and running around the ring.

Peace
Kevin Filan

Prole

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Tani wasn't even online. Some of that was conducted by me and my friends,
mostly people who didn't even know who or what these organizations were. I
was 15 years old and I admit I had fun. It was a fight, nothing more. It
wasn't serious or about anything serious. But the war was ongoing hot and
heavy long before any of us showed up. I even heard that Walter made a
threat to the COS member named Mein Kampf. Walter was TOS at the
time. Mein Kampf was COS, probably still is COS.

I did not, in real life, lie to the CID to try to get the TOS leaders in
jail. It was nothing but a goof that was fun for awhile.

I have since apologized to Aquino personally. I have no problem with it.
The point is, Gilmore wanted it, Gilmore gave us all the information. How
else would any of us have gotten this information? At the time, Aquino
seemed to know it came from Gilmore. You might say it was Tani and "her
gang" but at the time, the majority of people involved were COS members, not
Tani's friends. The impetus for all of it, the "order" to do it and the
information provided came from Peter Gilmore. Just like Peter Gilmore
ordered you and your pals to flame us now.

It doesn't matter what you people think. What I know matters and my apology
to Aquino was sincere. I have an excuse. I was a KID, an ANGRY kid. You
people have no excuses. Now you want to make war with an organization that
anyone can see uses none of your stuff. You have no GROUNDS for the war. We
don't claim we come from you, and we DON'T. We don't use your stuff. We
don't use your expressions or ideas. Your organization did use Tani's stuff
and
still uses things they learned from the Dark Doctrines. Get off our heels.

The CoS is unable to go its own way. Of course, we know you don't have a
pot to piss in and the recent shit with two of your top guys really sucks.

Brendan (Prole)

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Prole

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Name just one scholar? Professor James Lewis. That's not herd shit.
That's serious.

We also have a few famous people, notably T. Casey Brennan who doesn't mind
saying so despite the "satan" word. The rest do not want to be bothered
with having to fuss with the "satan" word in public. That is as it should
be. That is exactly what the SR advises people to do. We advise people to
get involved and NOT BRING UP the SR at all. We advise them to be
"invisible" the way a fixture is invisible, but to influence and push to get
AGENDAS going - political ones. Not "satan" idiocy. We speak what we
believe on things without mentioning irrelevant religions. Some of us are
Americans, we believe in separation of church and state. Although
conscience can inform political opinions. Our Romanian member is involved
in government activities and he presented our 9 statements for a way to make
a good government. Of course, he did NOT say he got these statements from
Satanic Reds. Why would he? If a congressman gets an idea from the Bible,
does anyone require him to quote chapter and verse on where he got it? That
is his PRIVATE business. This is what we advice SRs to do when they are
involved in such things. MANY of our almost 400 members now, are
politically involved.

Let "satan-ism" be known as primarily CoS oriented to the PUBLIC (the herd,
yes, the HERD) and linked to the actions of the Gidneys. That's OK with me.
SR is Sat-Tan-ic, not related to the devil, and has serious occultists in
it. They tend to avoid anything public like media. You can' t have it both
ways. You either love the herd (CoS does) or you side step them as much as
possible (SR does).

No one that reads our stuff laughs at us. That is far from the truth. As
far as the CoS-friendly types, we know what they are up to and who
"suggested" they do it. Been there. Done that. You can deny that just as
we all denied that "Gilmore was pulling the strings and calling the shots"
back then.

Again I'll say it, let the COS be known to the herd. That's fine with us.
Where do you find the Satanic Bible? Usually in the libraries of metalhead
kids who have no clue about anything seriously LHP. Where do you find our
stuff? In the libraries of serious people who seriously want to know this
stuff.

You aren't saying anything we ourselves didn't say already. We get a very
different group of people in the two orgs. SR is far from "online only."
Our members link up with and (some) are directly involved in political focus
groups. We have a social plan that would make things very good. You claim
you avoid all such "herd" endeavors, but you brag about your popularity with
segments of the herd.

Brendan (Prole)

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Lunatic Asylum

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Dear Parole:

<snip>

> We also have a few famous people, notably T. Casey Brennan who doesn't
mind
> saying so despite the "satan" word.

LOLOLOLOL! The guy that claims he was a part of the JFK assassination?
Here's a letter he sent to the publisher of The Konformist:

Subj: I SHOT PRESIDENT KENNEDY FOR MK-ULTRA

Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 11:41:28 PM

From: conju...@hotmail.com

T. Casey Brennan (in 1998 WHO'S WHO IN AMERICA)
317 S. Division St., No. 181
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2203 USA

Dear Sir:

I shot John Kennedy, under the direction of osteopathic physician and
hypnotist, J.H. Earnshaw of Port Hope, Michigan. I've described the events
in CONJURELLA.

Source: http://www.konformist.com/mkkafe/tcasey/tcasey.htm

(For those who don't know, The Konformist makes Art Bell and Jeff Rense look
sane.) This is a 10 on the Satanic Retards lunacy hit parade Richter Scale.
As The Konformist noted, "T. Casey Brennan: Dishwasher, Comic Book Writer,
JFK Assassin." LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Thanks Parole.

Regards,

Harry Lime
http://harrylime.biz

Kori Houghton

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"People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message news:<%5wdb.23947$pP6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

> Xori: "Tani, you have to realize that the Church of Satan engaged in a
> twenty-five year long organizational war with the Temple of Set." Point
> taken to heart.

Again, Commissar, you attempt to rewrite my words. I don't give a
rat's patoot about "organizational wars". That's your obsession, not
mine. Don't even try to suggest that some exchange between us started
the Commissar off on her post-CoS campaign to suck up to ToS. There
is just too much evidence out there (and not just on Usenet) to the
contrary.

Instead, one has to wonder, given that even you observed that there
was no 'match' between LaVey and the so-called Dark Doctrines, why you
inserted your writings --and yourself-- into the so-called org war.

I admit that until recently I had never bothered to read one of the
essays on the SR site all the way through. However, what I found in
your writings left little doubt (in my mind, at least) about why the
CoS wanted the D.Docs. Ouch, girl! If I start from the premise that
the Commissar is hopelessly stupid *and* doesn't stand by anything in
her 'esoteric' writings, then it seems like you were badly used -- and
deserve to be angry about having been exploited by ruthless people
with so much more intelligence than you have, although you should have
gotten over that by now. If the Commissar isn't that stupid, is the
author of the stuff with her name on it, and does actually practice
what she writes....well, then you went into your relationship with CoS
with your eyes open, had a significant role in the so-called org war,
and are now attempting a cover-up with all that ranting about P & P
and the CoS in general.

Once more, it isn't Usenet that exposes what you are, and what you
did. Your own SR website does that.

How about taking *that* to heart, Commissar?

Kori

Les Masters

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Tani is not rtesposible for her actions. She has a bump on the head.

Kevin Filan

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On 9/28/03 1:59 PM, in article vne8ks9...@corp.supernews.com, "Prole"
<pr...@nospam.com> wrote:

> Name just one scholar? Professor James Lewis. That's not herd shit.
> That's serious.

Didn't James Lewis also interview Lord Egan? Congratulations; you're now
almost as well-respected as John Dewey Allee. Of course, he's still had
several more TV appearances than you, and probably has a bigger mailing list
even after that faked death fiasco.

The fact remains thatyou

> We also have a few famous people, notably T. Casey Brennan who doesn't mind
> saying so despite the "satan" word. The rest do not want to be bothered
> with having to fuss with the "satan" word in public. That is as it should
> be. That is exactly what the SR advises people to do. We advise people to
> get involved and NOT BRING UP the SR at all. We advise them to be
> "invisible" the way a fixture is invisible, but to influence and push to get
> AGENDAS going - political ones.

Ah, I see. You have a "few" famous people, who conveniently can't be named.
It's awful when that happens: Grand Magister Blackwood has a similar
problem. Lots of heavy metal band members belong to his Temple's of Satan
organization, but none of them can admit it.

And by T. Casey Brennan, I take it you mean "T. Casey Brennan: Dishwasher,
Comic Book Writer, JFK Assassin?"

(http://www.konformist.com/mkkafe/tcasey/tcasey.htm)

I had no idea he was a Satanic Reds member. Has anybody told him yet?

> Not "satan" idiocy. We speak what we
> believe on things without mentioning irrelevant religions. Some of us are
> Americans, we believe in separation of church and state. Although
> conscience can inform political opinions. Our Romanian member is involved
> in government activities and he presented our 9 statements for a way to make
> a good government. Of course, he did NOT say he got these statements from
> Satanic Reds. Why would he? If a congressman gets an idea from the Bible,
> does anyone require him to quote chapter and verse on where he got it? That
> is his PRIVATE business. This is what we advice SRs to do when they are
> involved in such things. MANY of our almost 400 members now, are
> politically involved.

So your mailing list has almost 400 subscribers. Color me impressed. Maybe
each of them will be willing to donate $.05 a month so you can pull your
webpages off Geocities. Or maybe not...

> Let "satan-ism" be known as primarily CoS oriented to the PUBLIC (the herd,
> yes, the HERD) and linked to the actions of the Gidneys. That's OK with me.
> SR is Sat-Tan-ic, not related to the devil, and has serious occultists in
> it.

None of whom you can name.

John Shaw tried a similar tactic, before he came to his senses and realized
it didn't work very well. Perhaps you could take a lesson in honesty from
Mr. Shaw. After he's done with that, maybe he can give you several lessons
in HTML. Your Geocities page suggests that none of your Super Seekrit but
Reely Important Members managed to get through *The Complete Idiots Guide to
Web Design.*

> No one that reads our stuff laughs at us. That is far from the truth.

A quick look at this newsgroup suggests otherwise.

> As
> far as the CoS-friendly types, we know what they are up to and who
> "suggested" they do it. Been there. Done that. You can deny that just as
> we all denied that "Gilmore was pulling the strings and calling the shots"
> back then.

And continued to deny it until Gilmore threw your Durga out on her
liver-spotted ass. Don't forget that part.



> Again I'll say it, let the COS be known to the herd. That's fine with us.
> Where do you find the Satanic Bible? Usually in the libraries of metalhead
> kids who have no clue about anything seriously LHP. Where do you find our
> stuff? In the libraries of serious people who seriously want to know this
> stuff.

I'd imagine the Dark Doctrines have a place of honor in Ivan Stang's
extensive collection of Kook literature, praise Bob.

Peace
Kevin Filan

People's Commissar

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Filan - fuck off. I let Kerry Bolton SPEAK TO the Lucifer Rising folks to
rep the DDocs - I wanted nothing to do with the HERD publicity shit. I hate
it.

Of course, I do NOT out our members. TCB doesn't mind - he's one of the
most gasslighty hilarious people I ever ran into - of Vampirella fame. He's
pulled stunts that had me on the FLOOR in the past.

Fuck off Filan. We are exactly where we are, doing exactly what we want to
do - and our ADVICE to members doing actions is to do them as individuals -
NOT as org people. Our advice is to LAY OFF the satan hype since it's
tired, it's a turn off, and it plain sucks. I run into your kinds of
idiots - SB in hand, same old tired shit - losers all of them - do I even
tell them I know what the SB is or know who ASL is if they bring it up?
HELL no, I have at times even resorted to chasing them away with "Did ya
hear about JESUS and how he LOVES YOU - why he LOVES you, and have ya heard
the GOOD NEWS?" They go away soon enough. It WORKS for me.

Guess you didn't realize that.

James Lewis is a Professor - and it doesn't matter if he also interviewed
Lord Egan. He didn't interview you guys - who knows why. Maybe because he
couldn't stand what he ran into? I don't know I did not ask him. I don't
know what OTHER serious scholars had to say - but apparently the Danish
couple know - and they do see us as theological in some sense. Fine by me.

TCB's been a Satanic Red member from quite awhile back. He's HILARIOUS. He
pulled a gasslight on the OTO that had me in tears laughing - and the more
seriously THEY took it, the funnier it was. He's a MASTER at gasslight.
All for publicity on his part. Of course, a few whatevers out there think
it's serious. LMAO.

Our egroup does not have 400 members. Our ORG does. Less than 1/4 of them
are on the egroup - and the egroup is friendly chat about anything BUT satan
idiocy. It's a breath of fresh air - for sure. Other egroups are in our
egroup - heh - it's funny. AND FUN.

You PIGSHITS started this shit up right here with blaming the SR for the
fucking SHIT your own Priest and Priestess were up to - the fucking NERVE of
your lackeys blaming US for that shit? Yeah, we put a curse on Borg and
made him rape kiddies and beat up Ygraine, yeah, right, a big SR plot. YOUR
LACKIES said that shit. You throw your little pebbles and they whine when
we throw back a god damned bomb. BOO HOO.

ALL of them keep telling me to stay off alt.satanism because the people on
it are FUCKING MORONIC IDIOT ASSHOLES. Hmm, they're right.

Go your OWN WAY, Filan - if you HAVE a way.

"Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message

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> On 9/28/03 1:59 PM, in article vne8ks9...@corp.supernews.com, "Prole"
> <pr...@nospam.com> wrote:
>

SNIP a bunch of Piggy and Petty inspired provocation. You got a way Keven?
Then GO it. Don't you think it's about time you walked your own path in
life? I've been DOing just that all my life - and part of that was well,
you know, using anyone and anything out there to GET our dark force/black
flame info out there. Thank ya very much.

So long.


Kori Houghtin

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"Kori Houghton" <koriho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message
news:<%5wdb.23947$pP6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
> > Xori: "Tani, you have to realize that the Church of Satan engaged in a
> > twenty-five year long organizational war with the Temple of Set." Point
> > taken to heart.
>
> Again, Commissar, you attempt to rewrite my words. However, I recall
saying that the Church of Satan engaged in a 25 year organizational war with
the Temple of Set when I was trying to nail the grape squishers. I'm near
that age, I'm terrified of growing old because I already look so old and
aged. I also hated Cindy. I hate Zeena because she excelled and I have to
convince myself that she got ahead because she was a pretty woman and not
because she knew her stuff. I'm such a green eyed jealous bitch.

I'm not Eve. NO. I'm not Eve.


People's Commissar

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I have never sucked up to the ToS. Or anyone else! YOU HAVE. LMAO. Look,
1. ANY satanic org out there, not just CoS, was "in partnership" where they
asked for articles and I gave them articles. They loved them and got OUR
STUFF out there. That simple. 2. 1 org based its entire self on the DDocs
and spoke for DDocs in "Lucifer Rising" book. 3. Another org handed out
high title and features it in every issue. 4. CoS did same thing.

SO WHAT? The CoS, however, is the ONLY silly stupid assed org to get all
sour grapes over me saying "thanks, but I no longer need your services."
Quite simple, I could not STAND the ASSHOLES in it that I finally ran into -
when I had previously not run into ANY of them before that. 1999. I ran
into THEM. OH GOD man. 0

I stand by the DDocs. What the fuck are you talking about? Oh, I forgot,
you aren't talking about anything. You are being your same old petty
pent-up bitch self. You ae cunting. 0OH GO BITCH somewhere else, Xori.
Get off.

End of story.

"Kori Houghton" <koriho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Snip BULLSHIT. Stop drooling on me. You got a path in life? Walk it,
bitch.


Kori Houghton

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"Kori Houghtin" <iwishiw...@zeenafan.com> wrote in message news:<vnfqjhh...@corp.supernews.com>...

> > > Xori: "Tani, you have to realize that the Church of Satan engaged in a
> > > twenty-five year long organizational war with the Temple of Set." Point
> > > taken to heart.

Hey, this is kinda funny!

> >
> > Again, Commissar, you attempt to rewrite my words. However, I recall
> saying that the Church of Satan engaged in a 25 year organizational war with
> the Temple of Set when I was trying to nail the grape squishers.

Actually, I did a search in the archives for the phrase
'organizational war'. Not surprisingly the only peeps using that
phrase were the People's Commissar and a few other SRs, all uses were
in the context of CoS vs. ToS. And there was a really fascinating
Commissar rant from 1993 where she boasts of *supplying information to
Gilmore* to help Gilmore and the CoS fight off the ToSsers in an
'organizational war' waged by Aquino against LaVey. Yes, I know that
the Commissar was not online in 1993; the rant was courtesy of Harry
Lime (thanks, Harry). So, the Commissar was not speaking with the
words *of* Gilmore, for her own seekrit double agent purposes. She
was *feeding words* to Gilmore against Aquino and the ToS, by her own
boasting.


> I'm near
> that age, I'm terrified of growing old because I already look so old and
> aged.

Ahem. So, is that why my forged email is 'iwishiwasintos' -- because
I am afraid of getting old, and even more afraid of what comes after?
Ha! You are clueless! The ToS is one way, not the *only* way.

> I also hated Cindy.

Why was that? Because she was afraid to think for herself? The word
is not 'hated'. The word is 'despised'.

> I hate Zeena because she excelled and I have to
> convince myself that she got ahead because she was a pretty woman and not
> because she knew her stuff. I'm such a green eyed jealous bitch.

Now, this is very much a Granntsang-style rant.

>
> I'm not Eve. NO. I'm not Eve.

That's right, I am not -- and never was -- Eve. If you can read this
NG, you can find out what the real Eve has been up to lately: it's on
her website. If you expect to find her here on alt.s, well....don't!
She seems to have gone over to 'the other side'.

Luv,
(the real) Kori H.

Kori Houghton

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"People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message news:<KURdb.31551$pP6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

> I have never sucked up to the ToS.

Sniff? Is that your trou on fire *AGAIN*, Commissar? You know that
if you could only stop lying for a few months, those burns on your
buttocks would finally heal.

> Or anyone else!

Hmmmm. How about Gilmore, LaVey, and the CoS org, for starters?

> YOU HAVE. LMAO.

Nope. Even though you scream loud (in those Hellenic all caps rants)
and long on here about how I tried smooching up to you, I didn't. And
wasn't the least bit interested in joining SRs. That is why you
turned on me. The same way you've turned on other peeps here. And we
all know what you're like, Commissar. So, stuff it!

> Look,
> 1. ANY satanic org out there, not just CoS, was "in partnership" where they
> asked for articles and I gave them articles. They loved them and got OUR
> STUFF out there. That simple. 2. 1 org based its entire self on the DDocs
> and spoke for DDocs in "Lucifer Rising" book. 3. Another org handed out
> high title and features it in every issue. 4. CoS did same thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. yawn.....

>
> SO WHAT? The CoS, however, is the ONLY silly stupid assed org to get all
> sour grapes over me saying "thanks, but I no longer need your services."
> Quite simple, I could not STAND the ASSHOLES in it that I finally ran into -
> when I had previously not run into ANY of them before that. 1999. I ran
> into THEM. OH GOD man. 0

So, in 1993 you were feeding info to CoS and Gilmore to help them with
the 'war' (your word, dearie) being waged against *them* by MAA?
Check it out:

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Lookie here folks, a blast from the past from Tani. Some of the
highlights
are her stance on how the Whig party is trying to overthrow the USA
among
other tidbits and how she doesn't like Mike.

Dear Markku:

May 19, 1993

I was hemming and hawing about writing you about something which
others seem
to perceive as your switching due to a confusion over "man is an
animal -
with pro-Aryan? groups" and "man is NOT an animal" Aquino's doctrine,
the
Setian doctrine, AND a christian doctrine (hard core in fact).
Mark, you are NOT an Aryan, and this is probably WHY you cannot
possibly
relate to the pomp, the NOISE, and the sturm sturm sturm of Aryanism.
Neither can I. I am Turanian - and as a Fin - SO ARE YOU. We are a
DARK
people within, silence is strong in us, as is patience, we have the
SOUL of
the east, MORE eastern than the Chinese because Turan is an OLDER
people. I
wanted to tell you that when I heard you rejoined the TOS. ***Do as
you
will, surely, but know this: TOS will NOT enable you or anyone else to
FIND
THEMSELVES - in fact, NOTHING can do that FOR you. KNOW thyself does
not
mean go out an FIND it. Or FIND A MASK to cover yourself with?****

Now I see that you have taken part in "THE BULLSHIT" that Aquino
STARTED -
and he started up the same kind of thing in 1972 with university
students,
he also claimed they didn't have a group, or they were one person, and
the
same THINGS happened, only worse. People got hurt. All due to Aquino's
arrogance. He pretended to be Anton's Bishop (on yes, I have the PROOF
of
this Mark, LETTERS from way back then, and I recently GAVE these to
the
Church of Satan because they remembered all of this as "the strange
days"
and had NO IDEA what happened. No biggie.

PRINTING VERBATIM A LETTER that you receive, is NOT slander, NOR is it
gossip. Calling someone a name which is not true, making allegations
that
are not true, making claims that are blatantly false and/or LOPSIDING
something about a group IS PURE CHRISTIAN SHIT. I belong to NO public
group.
Kerry GAVE me a Priestess probably because I gave him a lot of
doctrines -
and Embasat has me as some sort of spokesperson or something. I never
joined
either group, but I know the people.

As to O.N.A.: the same accusations made against them as against the
students. _I_ wrote to them long before they went public and ASKED
THEM to
simple SAY IT: that stuff about sacrifices. ****WHY? Because I, as
PART and
BORN INTO a satanic culture, KNOW TOO WELL the GOD DAMNED WARS my
people
fought with the WHIG PARTY (still being fought today under new guises)
in
the 1800's. Due to these BLOODY wars such communities as the one I
grew up
in formed.****

***And our satanic people fought a VERY BLOODY REVOLUTION to FOUND
this
country Mark, and like HELL will we let the fucking christians GET
THEIR
HANDS on it - they've already eroded it ENOUGH - and when they make
SHIT out
of everything, they blame the JEWS? Ha...Jews and us - AGAINST THEM.
Abortion was totally unnoticed and legal until the damned WHIGS got
their
fucking MORAL SHIT into the fabric of this FREE country.****
SACRIFICE?
HUMAN SACRIFICE? We slaughtered HUNDREDS of those bastards in wars, in
the
American Revolution - DON'T YOU KNOW THAT? So I told the ONA to SAY IT
-
dammit SAY IT. They were accusing us of this at the time. So STOP
DENYING
IT - SAY IT and give the christian bastards something to REALLY be
scared
of. And at the same time, BACK OFF the phoney satanists. Well Markku,
IT
WORKED - QUITE WELL - DIDN'T IT? The scandal in Canada with the
Catholic
orphanage's TORTURE CHAMBER BASEMENT is ENOUGH - they want to play
games?
They want to ACCUSE US of what THEY DO? NEVER AGAIN Mark. WE said that
LONG
BEFORE the Jews said it. NEVER AGAIN. This is a war fought to the
DEATH with
NO QUARTER because there can BE no compromise with bible-faces. NONE.
So,
Aquino, and now YOU? want to mock out the ONA? GO TO ENGLAND and find
out
WHY they say what they say. GO.

The so-called article (COPY OF LETTER) of David Austin is a copy of
what
Austin wrote. Kerry didn't write it, AUSTIN DID. What, have you lost
your
MIND now? Can't you READ? OR THINK? You know very little about the
REAL
Markku Siira - THAT is your problem. And I would assume what I wrote
you, in
answer to your letter to me pretty much made that clear. I've GOT no
group
for you to join Mark, NO HAND TO HOLD. You turn WITHIN and walk you
way on
the Wheel - OR PERISH LIKE A FOOL - meanwhile - get ripped off. I
wrote
Kerry and TOLD HIM what you would do. ASK HIM if you doubt that. And
markku,
you DID IT. No, not psychic. Just OBVIOUS.

***Kerry IS holding truth and HONESTY HIGH. It is Aquino that is
LYING. He
even LIED about the COS - I got FRIENDS in the I.R.S. - I ASKED! HE
LIED. It
is Aquino LYING. He (Aquino) has carried on a one man FANATIC WAR
against
Anton since 1975, he MISREPRESENTED HIMSELF even in 1972 (oh I can
PROVE IT)
and the COS has never even sent him one postcard.*** He behaves like a
jilted lover. It is amazing how he tries to dismantle every satanic
organization out there with LIES worthy of a squirming christian DOG -
and
yet, Kerry Bolton went after CHRISTIANS and exposed Christian Child
Abuse
and removed that stigma from OUR heads. Nomolos also, keeps to himself
and
if ANYTHING, exposes christian abuse or abuses of political station.
LaVey
has not said a WORD against or about Aquino in years - and WONT. Tho
lately
Blanch has HAD to speak out. And the ONA pretty much makes ASSES out
of
Aquino's statements with logic alone - they advertise right? ERGO they
get
members. I happen to know for a FACT the USA connection to ONA, I told
the
COS/Gilmore. I DOUBT that the ONA will even ADMIT to it, forget about
bragging about it.

You accuse Kerry of DEFAMING? The TOS? Are you INSANE? Can't you READ?
What
do you read when you read 2 plus 2 is 4? Do you see that as 2 plus 2
is
16.5? What is this HANG UP you have on GODS? Do you even know what a
god-within MEANS? Obviously NOT, you are one more poor fucking LOST
SOUL
Markku, trying to FIND MARKKU and looking in the wrong places.

You WONT find Markku in ANY organization that you PAY TO JOIN. TURN
WITHIN
you FOOL. That's where YOU ARE. What did you do when YOU were 7? What
did
you LIKE when YOU were 7? Did you like anything at all? FIND THAT BOY,
and
you'll find YOURSELF - YOU FOOL. Do not THINK about it Markku. FEEL
IT. GO
BACK until you can FEEL yourself as that child - and RE-FEEL it.
That's not
easy boy! Not for lost souls. It is oftentime PAINFUL - so damned
painful
that I've SEEN your type rather volunteer to be mercenaries in WARS
and get
SHOT AT rather than LOOK IN THAT MIRROR and FACE YOURSELF.

Aquino proved nothing wrong. He twisted statements, REFUSED to comment
on
things he did and got CAUGHT doing, and continues to SLANDER other
satanists
while calling HIMSELF a satanist - when his DOCTRINES are OBVIOUSLY
NOT
satanic at all! Are you too DUMB to even wonder WHY he'd DO this? WHY
NOT
slander Louis Farrakhan of the Black Racist Muslims and their
anti-Jewish
"Public Enemy" underground music group? Why not slander Bob Larson who
CONTINUES to make accusation and in print - he STILL accuses Aquino of
molesting that 3 year old child. WHY doesn't Aquino attack THEM - his
REAL
enemies? Kerry never tells ANYONE not to join TOS. NOR DID I ever do
this. I
merely state (I QUOTE) Aquino's OWN doctrine of "man is NOT an
animal".
mark, if you are not an animal, then you are not a plant, nor a
fungus, nor
a virus, then you are a THING - and frankly, I think you FEEL like a
thing -
a thing separated from YOUR OWN Nature. Not "nature" as some abstract
thing.
YOUR OWN Nature. LOOK at your hand boy - THAT is Nature, molecular
bons,
atoms, biochemistry - that's NATURE TOO you DOPE.

***Aquino, what has HE DONE with his life? PURSUE Anton like a man in
a
frenzy. DEFAME Anton like a man who wants to BE Anton. Kerry HAS a
life
Mark, he JOKES, PLAYS, he is a FUN PERSON. Do you even UNDERSTAND the
concept of FUN? How about PLAY? The JOY of pushing your child on a
swing in
a park? The JOY of sitting on a beach feeling the gentle breeze caress
your
face?*** The joy of the whoosh whoosh of the ocean sound, so peaceful,
NO
NOISE. NO, You have NOISE in your brain, noise noise noise, chatter
chatter
all the time. I KNOW YOU TYPE Markku. The LOST TYPE. Looking for
Markku...quick quick, I think I FOUND you -- in my closet.
Here is one I give to the God Set: TELL THE WORLD the damned algorithm
for
finding the cube root of ANY GIVEN NUMBER. Now, surely a GOD can do
this? I
did it myself when I was 12. DON'T BOTHER looking it up - I never
published
it. THERE is the gauntlet. Now, let's hear the god tell us something
REAL
instead of more fucking myths for the STUPID MORONIC MINDS of
CHRISTIANS who
believe in the TOOTH FAIRY.
LET ME PUKE.

Tani Jantsang

Funny how you went on to this 'Mark' person with almost the same words
you addressed to me only months ago concerning the ToS, isn't it?
What has really changed in the life of the People's Commissar in 10
years? Oh yeah, the CoS kicked you out on your sagging arse, even
after you sold your honor to them cheap -- the agreed upon price being
printing some of your so-called Doctrines in a 'Satan Poo' 'zine.

>
> I stand by the DDocs. What the fuck are you talking about? Oh, I forgot,
> you aren't talking about anything. You are being your same old petty
> pent-up bitch self. You ae cunting. 0OH GO BITCH somewhere else, Xori.
> Get off.
>
> End of story.

> "Kori Houghton" <koriho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6db9a636.03092...@posting.google.com...
>
> Snip BULLSHIT. Stop drooling on me. You got a path in life? Walk it,
> bitch.

Quit bawling like a toddler, and *killfile* me if you don't want to
read what I have to say. Grow the f00k up, already!

Kori

Dagon Productions

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Which is why I have pointed out below that Tani does not get the
dynamics of usenet... that anyone can butt in anywhere they desire...
she's the one that keeps this ridiculous tatic up of accusing others
of butting in.

Since you seem to enjoy playing in the sandbox... regarding "sycophant"...
"I know you are but what am I?"

-Douglas

Dagon Productions

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Anyone can reply to any thread they desire... that is the dynamics of
usenet...
one day you and Tani will get this simple fact.

I start things of my own volition... I take orders from no group
whatsoever...
if you want to continue with these misassumptions... than you will look
like
the idiot in the long run... well hell you look like the idiot now to
anyone with
two brain cells to rub together.

-Douglas

Dagon Productions

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People's Commissar wrote:

>Filan - fuck off. I let Kerry Bolton SPEAK TO the Lucifer Rising folks to
>rep the DDocs - I wanted nothing to do with the HERD publicity shit. I hate
>it.
>
>

And you think that what you are doing here is not publicity of a sort?
If you hate it why do you post volumes of rambling rants here?

>Fuck off Filan. We are exactly where we are, doing exactly what we want to
>do - and our ADVICE to members doing actions is to do them as individuals -
>NOT as org people.
>

So your orgs people can post as individuals but not other orgs members
or people
like myself who are not affiliated with a Satanic org?


>Our advice is to LAY OFF the satan hype since it's
>tired, it's a turn off, and it plain sucks.
>

Than why are you here on alt.SATANISM? You tie the SR to the hype by
posting here as a representative or at least speaking for the SR.

Message has been deleted
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People's Commissar

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Jase, (heh, wrong monicer for sure, hay, and ON HERE?).

Where is your humor? Yes, he keeps that up. But lest I spoil a great
gasslight, let me shut up.

NOW! he he, I have to "decode and decipher" the super seekret SR
investigative results on who killed JFK - and trust me, it's gonna be out
there (not Stone, not Bonanno, not the usual). Why, our guys are so good
that they found the missing skulls of both JFK and Oswald! (Dont' freaking
rush me......).

After all - what kind of investigation would it seriously be, if the entire
COSMOS was not involved? Don't you realize that JFK was not just a man? He
was Something Else. The I-Ching said so :)

I'm in way too good a mood to debate the down to earthness of a man I have
always considered a MASTER of the Gasslight, someone every old time mythos
expert knows only too well.

Imagine it - throngs of Hare Krishnas banging gongs and such, wearing robes
with the SR image on them. :)

Go find the rant that the OTO leader wrote against him. It's the funniest
thing I read in years.

Have a GREAT DAY. I got me a NEW beach toy - so I'm happy! :) OUCH,
Jason!! my god damn tongue is STUCK on my cheek. HELP HELP.

Yeah, it's me.

HEY, you got a google? Gimme your nck and your password and I'll post as
you. Then the IP will = you know LMAO.

Dr. Nope is right WHAT did we do, to occupy so much of their limited head
space. Nothing. Petty and Piggy told them to flame us. That simple. That
absolute. That final.

T.

"Neskoreni" <nesk...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> bleh wrong monicker.


>
> "Kevin Filan" <mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com> wrote in message

> news:BB9D016F.346A7%mrha...@excite.SPAMBGONE.com...


>
> > And by T. Casey Brennan, I take it you mean "T. Casey Brennan:
> Dishwasher,
> > Comic Book Writer, JFK Assassin?"
> >
> > (http://www.konformist.com/mkkafe/tcasey/tcasey.htm)
>

> Looks like he no longer reckons he shot Kennedy.
>
> This dude is whacked, he could not have hit the plaza from that building.
>
>
>
> JN
>
>
>
>
>
>


People's Commissar

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1993 - I had no computer in 1993. I had no way to post a thing in 1993 .
Sorry, bitch.

Stop drooling You used the word in an EMAIL when you were denying you were
Eve and to the Scratches. Now, fuck off - go your own way.

"Kori Houghton" <koriho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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People's Commissar

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This is said by you, after you bitched me out for DOING JUST THAT and
jumping into a convo you TRIED to have with Prole. LMAO You're cute.
Stick to skindiving.

Btw, Dougy - I represent NO ONE but me, myself and I when I post to the
sewer here. Hardly ANYONE reads usenet anymore. Do you see an SR sig on
the bottom of my posts? NO? Then I'm not representing anyone but me,
myself and I. TRY to grasp that concept. Nah, never mind. Fuck it.

"Dagon Productions" <da...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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People's Commissar

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Kori, you turned on me when I defended Zeena. Period. End of story.

"Kori Houghton" <koriho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6db9a636.03092...@posting.google.com...

> "People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message
news:<KURdb.31551$pP6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
>

> > Look,
> > 1. ANY satanic org out there, not just CoS, was "in partnership" where
they
> > asked for articles and I gave them articles. They loved them and got
OUR
> > STUFF out there. That simple. 2. 1 org based its entire self on the
DDocs
> > and spoke for DDocs in "Lucifer Rising" book. 3. Another org handed out
> > high title and features it in every issue. 4. CoS did same thing.
>
> Yeah, yeah, yeah. yawn.....

It's in PRINT for anyone to see. It is fact. Not yeah yeah yawn. The
current cos shit-starting with me on here is yeah yeah yawn. Their time.
Their effort. Fuck em.


>
> >
> > SO WHAT? The CoS, however, is the ONLY silly stupid assed org to get
all
> > sour grapes over me saying "thanks, but I no longer need your services."
> > Quite simple, I could not STAND the ASSHOLES in it that I finally ran
into -
> > when I had previously not run into ANY of them before that. 1999. I
ran
> > into THEM. OH GOD man. 0
>
> So, in 1993 you were feeding info to CoS and Gilmore to help them with
> the 'war' (your word, dearie) being waged against *them* by MAA?
> Check it out:

OH, from Harry Slime. FACT, easily provable. I had no puter and was
nowhere online in 1993. Let anyone post "Tani said" all they want. Did I?
Anyone could have mailed me and ASKED me, you know. Some did. Guess who
did. OOOOPS.


>
> From: "tim jordan" <timjo...@attbi.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.satanism
> Subject: Tani's Thoughts on Set/Aquino

Stop right there. WHO posted that? I sure the fuck didn't. End of story.
That's about as good as "Kori's thoughts on Zeea" and me going ahead and
citing you and misquoting or inventing. Right? Right, you fucking moron.


Vladimir Vladimirovich

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I have about 10 "real name" monickers that aren't real.
Doesn't matter where they show up.

Brennan's other stuff was pretty funny.

JN


Kori Houghton

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"People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message news:<v3Qeb.5059$f11...@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

> Kori, you turned on me when I defended Zeena. Period. End of story.

Nonsense. You started dragging bits of our email convos on here,
involving yourself in threads without reading them first. I have no
problem with any honestly held opinion being expressed. However, in
your case it's just a list of rote responses about your org, and which
other orgs you like or dislike now. You are the one who keeps
bringing up Zeena, Eve, and what-all-else from ancient history. You
have my sympathies for not being able to keep up, and comprehend what
actually went on.


> "Kori Houghton" <koriho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6db9a636.03092...@posting.google.com...
> > "People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message
> news:<KURdb.31551$pP6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
> >
> > > Look,
> > > 1. ANY satanic org out there, not just CoS, was "in partnership" where
> they
> > > asked for articles and I gave them articles. They loved them and got
> OUR
> > > STUFF out there. That simple. 2. 1 org based its entire self on the
> DDocs
> > > and spoke for DDocs in "Lucifer Rising" book. 3. Another org handed out
> > > high title and features it in every issue. 4. CoS did same thing.
> >
> > Yeah, yeah, yeah. yawn.....
>
> It's in PRINT for anyone to see. It is fact. Not yeah yeah yawn. The
> current cos shit-starting with me on here is yeah yeah yawn. Their time.
> Their effort. Fuck em.

Look, kiddo, you need to refill those scrips. No one on here now is
busting your chops on behalf of the CoS. So, they used you. It's
been too many years to still have a case of the ass, so get over it!

> > > SO WHAT? The CoS, however, is the ONLY silly stupid assed org to get
> all
> > > sour grapes over me saying "thanks, but I no longer need your services."
> > > Quite simple, I could not STAND the ASSHOLES in it that I finally ran
> into -
> > > when I had previously not run into ANY of them before that. 1999. I
> ran
> > > into THEM. OH GOD man. 0
> >
> > So, in 1993 you were feeding info to CoS and Gilmore to help them with
> > the 'war' (your word, dearie) being waged against *them* by MAA?
> > Check it out:
>
> OH, from Harry Slime. FACT, easily provable. I had no puter and was
> nowhere online in 1993. Let anyone post "Tani said" all they want. Did I?
> Anyone could have mailed me and ASKED me, you know. Some did. Guess who
> did. OOOOPS.

So, did you write the letter, or not? If you didn't write it, hats
off to the forger because s/he did an excellent job. So, who emailed
you? There's no 'oooops' for me, 'cause I don't care about the org
conflicts at all and haven't taken any side but my own. OOOOPS.

> > From: "tim jordan" <timjo...@attbi.com>
> > Newsgroups: alt.satanism
> > Subject: Tani's Thoughts on Set/Aquino
>
> Stop right there. WHO posted that? I sure the fuck didn't.

I found the thread while searching the alt.s archive for every use of
the phrase "organizational war". That's your phrase, Commissar, which
you let some of your chorus boys borrow on occasion. I don't care who
posted it. I only care who wrote it. Did you write that letter, or
not?

> End of story.
> That's about as good as "Kori's thoughts on Zeea" and me going ahead and
> citing you and misquoting or inventing.

Which you have done, misquoting and inventing as we both know.


> Right? Right, you fucking moron.

So, did you write that letter, or not?

Kori

People's Commissar

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You MUST go see the ranting froth that the OTO leader wrote against Brennan.
Jase, about one hour doubled over. The best part was where the guy is
insisting to people with obviously good eyesight that Brennan doesn't
resemble Crowley. UH, like NO SHIT.

Here's the kicker. Anyone who actually reads the article knows it has
nothing to do with becoming a guru. It's one of his stories! But anyone
who doesn't read the article, doesn't know that. And he knows that most
idiots DO NOT read past the front page. I know that too. It's how we
exclude those we don't want to know.

Now I gotta seriously read, format, all that, stuff I've had for a long time
and get it up there. We didn't do it justice before and only had it in the
middle of a bunch of stuff on the FUN section. Move over Oliver Stone - the
Satanic Reds are gonna expose the TRUTS and show da PROOPH. I best not be
drinking coffee near the keyboard while I do this.

"Vladimir Vladimirovich" <nesk...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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- wolf -

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"Prole" <pr...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Name just one scholar? Professor James Lewis. That's not herd shit.
> That's serious.

Not according to Tani Jantsang, who has rejected the entire field of
sociology.

- wolf -


- wolf -

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"People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message
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> James Lewis is a Professor - and it doesn't matter if he also interviewed
> Lord Egan. He didn't interview you guys - who knows why. Maybe because
he
> couldn't stand what he ran into? I don't know I did not ask him. I
don't
> know what OTHER serious scholars had to say - but apparently the Danish
> couple know - and they do see us as theological in some sense. Fine by
me.

Nonsense.

Firstly, the Church of Satan made it clear on their web site that they
didn't want to talk with James Lewis because he was talking with other
Satanic groups. When a sociologist decides to study a group, he doesn't
withdraw simply because he cannot stand the group.

Secondly, you've denounced the entire scientific field of sociology, and
that really makes you look rather silly when you're using James Lewis as an
authority.

Thirdly, if the "Danish couple" happens to be Amina and me, I can inform you
that other serious scholars (well, probably James Lewis, too) see you as yet
another religious personality cult. As for you being "theological," that's
basically just a corollary of your insistence on rejecting any other
approaches than theological sources and arguments to define your own views.

>ALL of them keep telling me to stay off alt.satanism because the people on
>it are FUCKING MORONIC IDIOT ASSHOLES. Hmm, they're right.

If they're right, perhaps you should leave then.

- wolf -


Cat Asstrophy

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"Prole" <pr...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Name just one scholar? Professor James Lewis. That's not herd shit.
> That's serious.

Thank you, Prole. Your post sparked some interest in the book. We've sold
a few in the last couple of days.

"Satanism Today", by Professor James Lewis is available on SatanShop.com

In stock and ready for immediate shipment, if anyone is so inclined.

Cat

Ivan Mazepa

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"People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message
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> You MUST go see the ranting froth that the OTO leader wrote against
Brennan.
> Jase, about one hour doubled over. The best part was where the guy is
> insisting to people with obviously good eyesight that Brennan doesn't
> resemble Crowley. UH, like NO SHIT.

Self-referential occultniks.

I'd never read anything by Brennan.

Am hoping to go to Dallas on 11/22/03.


JN


Dagon Productions

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People's Commissar wrote:

>This is said by you, after you bitched me out for DOING JUST THAT and
>jumping into a convo you TRIED to have with Prole. LMAO You're cute.
>Stick to skindiving.
>
>

I was using your own words against you dumbass. I have posted here many
times in reply to you
pointing out that there is no such thing as butting into a usenet
exchange... but you keep telling people
that they have butted into exchanges you are involved in. Jokes on you
granny.

>Btw, Dougy - I represent NO ONE but me, myself and I when I post to the
>sewer here. Hardly ANYONE reads usenet anymore. Do you see an SR sig on
>the bottom of my posts? NO? Then I'm not representing anyone but me,
>myself and I. TRY to grasp that concept. Nah, never mind. Fuck it.
>
>

Oh... you are representing yourself?... do you see a CoS sig at the
bottom of my posts? No...
so I'm only posting as myself... nice double standard you have there
granny.

-Douglas

People's Commissar

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Boy, you are getting ITCHY, yes?

quote:


Maybe because
he
> couldn't stand what he ran into? I don't know I did not ask him.

Unquote.

What is it that you missed about "I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DID NOT INTERVIEW
THEM?"

What on earth makes you think I go to their website? I have NO idea what's
up on there. If someone that goes there mentions it (you just did) - hey,
what the hey. That tells me you go to their website. Sheesh.

See inside.


"- wolf -" <wo...@nospam-blazingangles.com> wrote in message
news:3f7c789e$0$97157$edfa...@dread12.news.tele.dk...


> "People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message
> news:zJRdb.31378$pP6....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > James Lewis is a Professor - and it doesn't matter if he also
interviewed
> > Lord Egan. He didn't interview you guys - who knows why. Maybe because
> he
> > couldn't stand what he ran into? I don't know I did not ask him. I
> don't
> > know what OTHER serious scholars had to say - but apparently the Danish
> > couple know - and they do see us as theological in some sense. Fine by
> me.
>
> Nonsense.
>
> Firstly, the Church of Satan made it clear on their web site that they
> didn't want to talk with James Lewis because he was talking with other
> Satanic groups. When a sociologist decides to study a group, he doesn't
> withdraw simply because he cannot stand the group.

Quote again


Maybe because
he
> couldn't stand what he ran into? I don't know I did not ask him.

Unquote again.

The LaVeyans want to believe that they are the ONLY satanism out there. You
were even told to "stop viewing Egan's org as a variety of satanism." Uh
huh. I believe at that point in time, you refused to obey.
>
snip the shit.

Why are you MINDING MY BUSINESS yet again?
>
> - wolf -
>
>


People's Commissar

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Well, I like funny stuff, obviously. I thought you read something and found
it funny. He's in Conjurella and Vampiralla :)

"Ivan Mazepa" <nesk...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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People's Commissar

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Blah blah.

"- wolf -" <wo...@nospam-blazingangles.com> wrote in message

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> "Prole" <pr...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > Name just one scholar? Professor James Lewis. That's not herd shit.
> > That's serious.
>

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People's Commissar

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He has another one coming out - he got 5 or 6 doctrines from us, main line
stuff, short and sweet.

Unbelievable how many idiots try so hard to NOSE INTO my business - STILL.

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People's Commissar

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Nope nope. We are and I am WAY too familiar with the "non-cos members" that
post on their behalf and flame people they don't even know. Sorry buddy.
You are new at this. Don't assume others are.

When I butt into convos, I talk about the THING. When you spaniels butt in,
you flame people ad hom.

Typical.

Go away. If you weren't such an asshole, I'd share photos of octopi from
underwater that I have from long ago.

They are doing to me exactly what the Gilmores did to Aquino. Inventing a
life for me complete with the worst fucking libel and bullshit imaginable.
You participate in that, spaniel.

Waste your time. Fuck em.

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People's Commissar

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Don't give a fuck what went on otherwise. You helped me absolve people from
involvement in an anti Aquino campaign. You helped me SQUISH the squishers.
Thanks.

But you also think that Aquino did something to make people think you are
Eve. Rubbish. You fell for it. You also went on all over and in email
about "oh come on, Zeena?" Please.

Get a FUCKING life - go your own god damned way if you have a way. And
inventing fictions about me and carrying on only shows me you have NO life.
Sucker.

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Les Masters

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People's Commissar wrote:
>
> They are doing to me exactly what the Gilmores did to Aquino. Inventing
a
> life for me complete with the worst fucking libel and bullshit imaginable.

So sue them already and stop your incessant whining!

Stop talking and just DO IT!


Kori Houghton

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"People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message news:<pWrfb.24143$3S.1...@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

> Don't give a fuck what went on otherwise. You helped me absolve people from
> involvement in an anti Aquino campaign. You helped me SQUISH the squishers.
> Thanks.

Nonsense. The people in question did not need your help nor mine to
distance themselves from RFS, and then contact Aquino themselves to
set the record straight. You are merely inserting yourself into the
process to get attention.

Actually, your posts here during the whole process (check the
archives) consisted of you alternately bashing the CoS, shilling for
your doctrines, smooching up to your Brad Pitt, and (virtually)
yelling back at Lupo and others who were telling you to STFU. Pretty
much the standard for alt.s so, yeah, you did a super job, Tani, and
you deserve all the credit. And here's a post with me saying that I
acknowledge your achievement, so you can show all your friends *^_^*



> But you also think that Aquino did something to make people think you are
> Eve. Rubbish. You fell for it. You also went on all over and in email
> about "oh come on, Zeena?" Please.

More nonsense. You are distorting what I wrote about the identity
confusion and what Aquino actually did (and did very well, I might
add).

Concerning email, well that is a different situation than a public NG
like alt.s here on Usenet. You took your buttinsky behavior into my
home when you sent me unsolicited emails with scans of your drivers
license, your SS Card, and quite a few photos of everyone from
"Phyllis Rose" and "Ludvig Prinn" to the SRs in party mode. I would
like to remind the viewers at home that you announced here on alt.s
that you had sent out the SR group photos to xxx number of email
correspondents *and no one had passed them on to hostile parties*.
That is, Tani was baitng her email correspondents to partake of yet
another skirmish in the org war (her whole purpose for existence) and
pass her scratch-n-sniff for traitors test. Wow! I love getting
emails like that! Not a cordial exchange, like 'here I am with some
friends so you'll know what we look like'.

Damn straight I responded to more of your bait-for-traitors emails
with some comments about Zeena. No way was I going to share my RL
with you, my actual point-of-view concerning the goings on, or
anything concerning the ToS.

So, please do congratulate yourself about winning the grand prize for
email spy vs. spy. You don't know anything about me, so feel free to
improvise. I mean, you will anyway. LOL



> Get a FUCKING life - go your own god damned way if you have a way. And
> inventing fictions about me and carrying on only shows me you have NO life.
> Sucker.

It is not inventing a fiction about you to voice my opinion on Usenet
(Usenet is *nothing*, remember?) that you are both a cult fanatic and
a hypocrite. Not an unsual combination, to be sure. Those traits are
truly a match made in heaven *^_^* If you actually valued any of your
doctrines, you wouldn't be on here inviting your critics to 'render a
serving of poison twat' or some such for themselves. That's not Yin,
that's not self-defense, that's not debate. You, m'dear, are the most
revealing example of what the 'solid gold' doctrines you peddle can do
for a person -- (as the Aussies say) sweet bugger all!

Luv,
Kori

People's Commissar

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Not-Les,

A person can sue for anything . Winning a suit is another matter. You have
to prove damage or monetary loss in a law suit. I can prove the complete
opposite, LOL.

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People's Commissar

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Btw, heh, you brought it up. YOU DID confirm that he was (won't put his
real name on here). The only other person that said that was a cos member.
Apparently you KNOW Lud . Personally enough to recognize him and NAME him.

I would imagine that he had no idea who did that . I told him who ONE of the
people was. Like - what's that gonna do for me, knowing that? Nothing?
Yes, nothing. I could have found that out by asking Walter. Guess what. I
NEVER ASKED.

Babe, you have NO idea which Tos members that had NOTHING TO DO with the RFS
and some who MIGHT have, ASKED me to do just what I did. Of course, me
telling Dr. A that former TOS members in our org are NOT bashing him or
against him is about as good as Osamma bin Laden telling Bush that he didn't
kill some specific man on a specific street. That's Prole that's
co-founder - and he's the gang leader in some pretty BAD flames ages ago.
Dr. A. has NO reason to believe me. But I was asked by 14 people, they
personally emailed me and wanted to make sure WE KNEW that they were in
complete disagreement with what was going on. Watler was NOT one of them,
Kori. He IS on friendly terms with Dr. A. Dr. A is not a petty fuck, you
see. And no, he ain't sucking up to me or anyone else. These TOS members
apparently had NO idea how "bad" Prole and me too to some extent were to the
TOS in the past. Asking US to speak for them, heh. I told the truth.
Walter was NOT one of the ones who asked me to do what I did.

That simple. You are a simple minded little air-head.

Kori Houghton

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"People's Commissar" <satan...@www.com> wrote in message news:<E%Ofb.29292$3S.1...@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>...

> Btw, heh, you brought it up. YOU DID confirm that he was (won't put his
> real name on here).

Wow! I must really get to you if you want to concoct a story like
that. I haven't a clue who Prinn is in RL, or if the poster with that
nick is one person or a dozen. Please do go right ahead with your
innuendo. You are doing an excellent job of showing who and what you
really are. Sir Chaos told me I had the needle, so I am enjoying the
use of it as you soil your Depends.

> The only other person that said that was a cos member.
> Apparently you KNOW Lud . Personally enough to recognize him and NAME him.

Do I need to know this? Does anyone on this NG need to have your
back-fence recitation of which ToSsers are known to which CoSsers and
vice versa? I don't think so. *I* know Lud? Yeah, right. How is it
that we know each other, exactly? Who else do I supposedly 'know'
hmmmm?



> I would imagine that he had no idea who did that . I told him who ONE of the
> people was. Like - what's that gonna do for me, knowing that? Nothing?
> Yes, nothing. I could have found that out by asking Walter. Guess what. I
> NEVER ASKED.

Then why did you try to involve me in what you care nothing about?


> Babe, you have NO idea which Tos members that had NOTHING TO DO with the RFS
> and some who MIGHT have, ASKED me to do just what I did.

Nor do I wish to know. If these people are in SR, that already speaks
volumes about them.

> Of course, me
> telling Dr. A that former TOS members in our org are NOT bashing him or
> against him is about as good as Osamma bin Laden telling Bush that he didn't
> kill some specific man on a specific street. That's Prole that's
> co-founder - and he's the gang leader in some pretty BAD flames ages ago.
> Dr. A. has NO reason to believe me. But I was asked by 14 people, they
> personally emailed me and wanted to make sure WE KNEW that they were in
> complete disagreement with what was going on.

Yawn. Yeah, we've all read this one before, so many, many times.

> Watler was NOT one of them,
> Kori. He IS on friendly terms with Dr. A. Dr. A is not a petty fuck, you
> see. And no, he ain't sucking up to me or anyone else. These TOS members
> apparently had NO idea how "bad" Prole and me too to some extent were to the
> TOS in the past. Asking US to speak for them, heh. I told the truth.
> Walter was NOT one of the ones who asked me to do what I did.

I don't care who did or who didn't. How dense can you be?



> That simple. You are a simple minded little air-head.

Good. Just keep telling yourself that. And killfile me already, why
don't you?

Dagon Productions

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People's Commissar wrote:

>Nope nope. We are and I am WAY too familiar with the "non-cos members" that
>post on their behalf and flame people they don't even know. Sorry buddy.
>You are new at this. Don't assume others are.
>
>

New at this???? Ha! I've been reading alt.satanism for over a decade
and made my first
post in April of 1993. I flame people because they have set themselves
up as convenient
targets, not on behalf of anyone... but this concept eludes you
completely. I've met a few
CoS members... count one as a friend... he died back in '95 and was
never seriously
involved... the only other CoS members that I would consider
friends/acquaintances
are Michael Moynihan and to a lesser extent Rex Church... and we never
discussed
alt.satanism in the two years I lived in Portland.


>When I butt into convos, I talk about the THING. When you spaniels butt in,
>you flame people ad hom.
>
>

I'll admit an occasional ad hominem but always after pointing out the
errors in your
logic. You would do well to take a course in logical fallacies since
you utilize them
consistantly.

>Typical.
>
>Go away. If you weren't such an asshole, I'd share photos of octopi from
>underwater that I have from long ago.
>

Like I have stated previously I do no ones bidding but my own... so I
won't go away just
because granny tani says so. I wouldn't if the CoS or Aquino said as
much either... I even
remember going toe to toe with Aquino over animal sacrifice... though I
have indulged in
such decades ago and observed that there was an effect... that it can be
harnessed to
any usefullness I have not continued my experiments to find out... but
this obviously put me
at odds with both the CoS and Aquino.

And truth be told... I could give a shit about any octopi photos you
might have... I've taken
a number of my own when I used to scuba dive in my youth. Besides my
moniker/business
name was not chosen for it's connections to the Lovecraft mythos
whatsoever. It was derived
from a bibliomancy and seemed appropriate since I had grown up in and
around water up
until I was about 18... half man/half fish and all.

>
>They are doing to me exactly what the Gilmores did to Aquino. Inventing a
>life for me complete with the worst fucking libel and bullshit imaginable.
>You participate in that, spaniel.
>
>

Hey... all I have to go on is your own words here... and they paint a
pretty ugly picture...
no need to have the ok of anyone else to do so... you leave yourself
wide open to be
flamed regularly.

>Waste your time. Fuck em.
>

It may be a waste of time... but occasionally I enjoy taking a few
shots at wackos,
such as you, here. You waste inordinate amounts of time and as I have
pointed out
previously... you often post 10 or more words to anyones one word they
type.
So for someone like you to tell me I am wasting time... pot kettle black

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