[i2fs] Tarantella - SDB and SJ
Karthik S
dance of the same name) seems to have inspired 2 Hindi songs. The S D Burman
version in 1954 from the movie Taxi driver - 'Chahe koi khush...' and the
Shankar Jaikishen version in 1956 from Raj Kapoor's Chori chori - 'Aaja
sanam'. The SDB version was a pretty direct inspiration with a very similar
tempo like the original. Its the Shankar Jaikishen version that has a rather
slow tempo and a more coherent melody added to it, which makes it a
fantastic inspiration!
I also felt that the popular Chandrababu song of the 50s (or was it the
60s?), 'Buthiyulla manitharellam...' (Film: Annai, Music: R Sudarsanam)
resembled the Tarantella to some extent (it does take a drastic turn right
in the first line, but still sounds similar!!) What do you think?
Listen to all the above 4 songs in my site.
--Karthik
Inspired Indian Film Songs - http://www.iespana.es/i2fs
aanand
songs.
I have got one cassate of reshma song and i have found that at leat
3-4 songs in that cassate has been copied in Hindi.
1. Aankhiyon ko rahene do ( BoBBY LP)
2. Lumbi Judai ( hero LP)
3. Aaj mausam bada beemaan hai bada ( Rafi song from LP movie)
4. Chitthiye ( Heena )
5. yaara sili sili ( Lekin HRIdaynath)..
I am quite sure there are many more examples like this . Do anybody
knows few more songs ?
Hridaynath has also used mehendi hassan composition for Lata's marathi
song " Malavun tak deep"
I am sure there must many more examples of songs copied from reshma,
mehendi hasaan and other pakisatni singers.
VSR...@hclinfinet.com
>
> Read lot of mails from karthik on inspired hindi songs from English
> songs.
> I have got one cassate of reshma song and i have found that at leat
> 3-4 songs in that cassate has been copied in Hindi.
>
> 1. Aankhiyon ko rahene do ( BoBBY LP)
Are you talking about the lata part (had just two line mukhda in the
film). It appears a typical LP song.
There is a chanchal song in the film also "beshak mandire masjid todo,
bulle shah ye kehta". that must be adaptation of a traditional song.
lyrics bulle shah or Anand Bakshi?
> 2. Lumbi Judai ( hero LP)
This one was rendered by Reshma herself in the film. So the inspiration
might have been prompted by herself. I wonder whether the Hero song was
done first and reshma added it in cassette later on.
A lovely song.
> 3. Aaj mausam bada beemaan hai bada ( Rafi song from LP movie)
again, a typical LP composition. a lovely song. simple yet potent
lyrics.
> 4. Chitthiye ( Heena )
which one?
> 5. yaara sili sili ( Lekin HRIdaynath)..
wow! have heard about kesaria baalama. never new that entire album was
inspired.
BUt lyrics have unique Gulzar stamp (birha ki raat ka jalna). Is the
tune inspired or the lyrics also.
-Rawat
aanand
> aanand wrote:
> >
> > Read lot of mails from karthik on inspired hindi songs from English
> > songs.
> > I have got one cassate of reshma song and i have found that at leat
> > 3-4 songs in that cassate has been copied in Hindi.
> >
> > 1. Aankhiyon ko rahene do ( BoBBY LP)
>
> Are you talking about the lata part (had just two line mukhda in the
> film). It appears a typical LP song.
>
> There is a chanchal song in the film also "beshak mandire masjid todo,
> bulle shah ye kehta". that must be adaptation of a traditional song.
> lyrics bulle shah or Anand Bakshi?
I think Aankhiyon ko rahene do is a full fledged song . Don't know
whether it is retined in movie or not . But its note to note copy .(
Words may be 50%)..
>
> > 2. Lumbi Judai ( hero LP)
>
> This one was rendered by Reshma herself in the film. So the inspiration
> might have been prompted by herself. I wonder whether the Hero song was
> done first and reshma added it in cassette later on.
>
> A lovely song.
Its was reshma song rerendered with flute pieces by hariprasad C. the
credit is not however given to LP.
>
> > 3. Aaj mausam bada beemaan hai bada ( Rafi song from LP movie)
>
> again, a typical LP composition. a lovely song. simple yet potent
> lyrics.
Please meri humjoliya by reshma. I think typical LP compostions means
copying punjabi /sufi folk songs and do heavy orchestartion. As L was
marathi and P was harly a composer i am sure It was Anand bkshi who
was rendering occasional helping hand !!!
>
> > 4. Chitthiye ( Heena )
>
> which one?
Chithiye ni dard phirakvaliye ..
>
> > 5. yaara sili sili ( Lekin HRIdaynath)..
>
> wow! have heard about kesaria baalama. never new that entire album was
> inspired.
> BUt lyrics have unique Gulzar stamp (birha ki raat ka jalna). Is the
> tune inspired or the lyrics also.
The mukhada is inspired and not anatara. The lyricas are not inspired
and they are beauty,.
Anyway following are insprirations of lekin..
1. yara sili sili : nein mein chori chori by reshma
2. Suniyoji : Rone se aur ishque mein ; the ghalib compostion by HM
for lata. which inspired by old bandish Ki jo ji madat mhari ho.
3. Surmai sham : Original marathi song : Sprash sangel sari kahani by
suresh wadkar composed by HM.
4. kesaria : Well kown rajasthani mand compsition.
5. Zuthe naina bole : Bilaskhani todi badish..wahi jao jao ; jao
balama
6. Main ek sadi baithi ho : Marathi natyasangeet : Bhali chandra ase
dharila by Deenanath mangesh kar.
7. ja ja re : GUjari todi badish by Amir khan.
>
> -Rawat
Surajit A. Bose
anandj...@yahoo.com (aanand) wrote:
> 7. ja ja re : GUjari todi badish by Amir khan.
"jaa jaa re" is not a composition by Amir Khan. The original is in
aa.Daachautaal, and Amir Khan has not, to my knowledge, ever sung
anything in aa.Daachautaal. jaa jaa re is originally a composition of
Adarang (Firoz Khan), a musician at the court of Mohammmed Shah
"Rangile", an 18th-c. emperor of Delhi during the wane of the Mughal
empire. The compositions of Adarang and his uncle Sadarang (Niamat Khan)
are credited with giving form and impetus to the emergent Khayal genre.
-s
Anindya
> Please meri humjoliya by reshma. I think typical LP compostions means
> copying punjabi /sufi folk songs and do heavy orchestartion. As L was
> marathi and P was harly a composer i am sure It was Anand bkshi who
> was rendering occasional helping hand !!!
Could you elaborate what exactly you mean by this statement? Are you
trying to say that, in order to "lift" from Punjabi tunes, one has to
be a Punjabi himself/herself? Aren't there countless examples in HFM
which would negate this hypothesis?
Anindya
aanand
Let me elaborate : There is always influence of folk region where u
originate from. HAve U anytime seen bengali /ravindra music influence
in compositions of non bengali composers like CR, Sj , Naushad, OPN
etc . Similarly u will always find there is influence of bengal folk
music in compositions of SDb, HM,AB ( Even RDB and SC sometimes ).
Similarly u will find influence of UP folk music in NAushad's
compositions, Maharashtra, GUJ influences in CR compsotions.
However in case of LP ; u will always find that their music is heavily
Punjabi types in spite of fact being Laxmikant was not a Punjabi and i
guess Pyarelal was more into Orchestration than in composing. Whatever
is known as LP style is actaully punjabi type music with heavy (
Unbearable... Influence of SJ at their worst late 60!!!)orchestar with
100-200 violins, drums, bells and what not !! The point of i try to
make is that eveybody has borrowed from here and there sometime but
those are exceptions. Thaht's away from their style .Here u will find
their whole musci was based on punjabi folk style so i am suspecting
helping hand from Anand Bakshi who was known to have good knowlede of
punjabi folk music and used to like lend the tunes ,compose and sing.
Anindya
> andy...@hotmail.com (Anindya) wrote in message news:<f43baef6.02050...@posting.google.com>...
> > >
> > > Please meri humjoliya by reshma. I think typical LP compostions means
> > > copying punjabi /sufi folk songs and do heavy orchestartion. As L was
> > > marathi and P was harly a composer i am sure It was Anand bkshi who
> > > was rendering occasional helping hand !!!
> >
> >
> > Could you elaborate what exactly you mean by this statement? Are you
> > trying to say that, in order to "lift" from Punjabi tunes, one has to
> > be a Punjabi himself/herself? Aren't there countless examples in HFM
> > which would negate this hypothesis?
> >
> > Anindya
>
> Let me elaborate : There is always influence of folk region where u
> originate from. HAve U anytime seen bengali /ravindra music influence
> in compositions of non bengali composers like CR, Sj , Naushad, OPN
> etc . Similarly u will always find there is influence of bengal folk
> music in compositions of SDb, HM,AB ( Even RDB and SC sometimes ).
> Similarly u will find influence of UP folk music in NAushad's
> compositions, Maharashtra, GUJ influences in CR compsotions.
how about the reverse? The much-discussed Heer composition by Anupam
Ghatak, the Bhangra song (Rafi) from Jagte Raho (Salil)?
However in case of LP ; u will always find that their music is heavily
> Punjabi types in spite of fact being Laxmikant was not a Punjabi and i
> guess Pyarelal was more into Orchestration than in composing. Whatever
> is known as LP style is actaully punjabi type music with heavy (
> Unbearable... Influence of SJ at their worst late 60!!!)orchestar with
> 100-200 violins, drums, bells and what not !! The point of i try to
> make is that eveybody has borrowed from here and there sometime but
> those are exceptions. Thaht's away from their style .Here u will find
> their whole musci was based on punjabi folk style so i am suspecting
> helping hand from Anand Bakshi who was known to have good knowlede of
> punjabi folk music and used to like lend the tunes ,compose and sing.
Though I fully endorse the "unbearable" part, I think you are making a
sweeping statement,when you say that LP *always* borrowed from Punjabi
music, and...L not being a Punjabi...and P not being much of a
composer...it was actually Anand B who must have lent a helping hand
(this would make AB HFM's most prolific ghost-composer!)
And yes, he *liked* to sing (I like to sing, too!) but, btw, what
songs have AB composed?
And what about the non-AB songs of LP? Conversely, why did AB choose
to lend a helping hand *only* to LP?
Anindya
Abhay Jain
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> Punjabi types in spite of fact being Laxmikant was not a Punjabi and i
> guess Pyarelal was more into Orchestration than in composing. Whatever
> is known as LP style is actaully punjabi type music with heavy (
> Unbearable... Influence of SJ at their worst late 60!!!)orchestar with
> 100-200 violins, drums, bells and what not !!
<
Pyarelal was a violinist. I remember seeing a large (6'x4') serous picture
of him
playing violin at his house.