Most overrated college player this year?
Roy Navarre
I think I will have to go with Jason kidd. Sorry, the guy is a decent guard,
but no way does he merit some of the praise he has received. Close runner
up will be some of the talent at North Carolina. I would say Cherokee
Parks, but I think his bubble has already been burst????
Pinhead
The Crossjammer
Who was the most overrated, overhyped player in college ever?
I think I will have to go with Shaquille O'Neal. Sorry, the guy is a decent
center, but no way does he merit some of the praise he has received. Close
runner up will be some of the talent at Kentucky. I would say Chris
Jackson, but I think his bubble has already been burst????
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>Who will be the most overrated, overhyped player in college next year?
...
>Pinhead
No doubt a member of PAC-10. But that is not the point. My officemate
actually inquired about he prospects of Oregon State men's basketball team;
are they any good this year, he said, and -- to protect his integrity --
he did not care, it was for a friend of his...
So tell us.
-- Marek
Brian Saunders
am real cute by trying to fish for Cal fans. Won't you please play with
me? I've been so lonely lately, since everybody seems infinitely more
interested in discussing ACC point guards, and watching Brian get into
flame wars with new readers, than they are at picking on old pinhead.
Well, I guess the old Cross-Jammer is being nice and humoring the pinhead,
but nobody else is.
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Roy Navarre <nava...@ava.bcc.orst.edu> wrote:
>Who will be the most overrated, overhyped player in college next year?
Let's permute this one one turn (having not read the
replies to this thread, I think I can play): Who will the
net posters nominate for the answer to this?
Charles Board will say Eric Montross.
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Neil Das Gupta
Dookie. I will admit that Montross is a force in the middle, and an
excellent inside scorer. But down on "Tobacco Road," the media hypes
this guy like he's a Wooden Award candidate. He's a very good player
in the best (reluctantly admitted) program in the country. But he is
not a great player. It just so happens that this is a very down year
centers, so Frankenstein might make 1st team All-American.
True story: After the collegian team played the Dream Team, Montross'
confidence was so shattered that Deano had to sit him down and convince
him that he can play basketball.
How good is Sharone Wright? How does he stack up vs. Montross? I would
be interested to see their stats for the games they played against each
other. If someone would be good enough to post them...
-Figaro
Jed Daniel Tai
>so I guess I won't bother. Naw, I have a few.
>1. Jalen Rose
>2. Rashard Griffin
^^^^^^^
Nitpick -- it's Griffith. At least U didn't call him
Rashard Wallace, or some other variation I've heard over the
past few months.
>3. Bryant Reeves
Overrated? Underrated if anything. When was the last time
this guy ever made national headlines except for the fact his
nickname is "Big Country" and he looks like he's straight off
of the farm?
>How about underrated or underexposed players?
>1. Lawrence Moten (Syracuse)
Anyone who wears his socks up to his knees in the Big East certainly
can't be underrated... :)
>2. Sharone Wright (Clemson)
Seldom known fact -- Sharone Wright was an accomplished 3-pt
shooter in high school.
U want underrated? Here's two names for U:
Jarvis Lang
Kendrick Warren
Heard of them? If not -- there U are. Underrated.
>How about the real gunners. Are they good or not?
>1. Bob Sura
Will be debated for years...
>2. Clarence Ceasar
Only in the mind of Pinheads and the like... Geaux Tigers!
Jazzy J
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Matthew Merzbacher
My officemate actually inquired about he prospects of Oregon State
men's basketball team; are they any good this year, he said, and --
to protect his integrity -- he did not care, it was for a friend of his...
I would say, not good. Same (lame) coach, worse team. The big loss
this year is Scott Haskin (good enough for the first round NBA - though
some in Indiana wonder why). I believe (though I'm not sure) that Chad
Scott is back, but I can't imagine the Beavers having a great year.
I would guess that there will be 3 tiers in the PAC-10 this year (as
usual). The top will be Arizona, UCLA and Cal. The next tier will
hold ASU, WSU (maybe), USC and Oregon State. Washington, Oregon and
Stanford should bring up the rear. Just a guess from an old Pac-10
Salt who has moved on to ECAC land.
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WILLIAM GAY
>Who will be the most overrated, overhyped player in college next year?
>I think I will have to go with Jason kidd. Sorry, the guy is a decent guard,
>but no way does he merit some of the praise he has received. Close runner
>up will be some of the talent at North Carolina. I would say Cherokee
>Parks, but I think his bubble has already been burst????
I was about to follow up to this but then I saw...
>Pinhead
so I guess I won't bother. Naw, I have a few.
1. Jalen Rose
2. Rashard Griffin
3. Bryant Reeves
How about underrated or underexposed players?
1. Lawrence Moten (Syracuse)
2. Sharone Wright (Clemson)
3. Pat "Ed" Sullivan (UNC) ... just kidding!
How about the real gunners. Are they good or not?
1. Bob Sura
2. Clarence Ceasar
3. Lamont Murray
3. Add more here and rate
They're gone? They've been around forever...
1. Acie Earl
2. Acie Earl
3. Acie Earl
4. Bob Hurley
5. Chris Mills
6. Scott Burrell
-Will
Michael Lerner
Check Arizona's roster for leading candidates...
Locally, I'd have to go with poor, misguided Rodrick Rhodes. What happened to
this guy anyway?!
Mike
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Russ Smith
> Jarvis Lang
> Kendrick Warren
Lang is definitely underrated, UNCC doesn't get much pub. He's a tremendous
player.
Warren was a bigtime recruit though wasn't he, I know VCU doesn't get
much pub either, but he had a big name coming out of highschool. ANother
great player.
Russ Smith
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George Gervin on being an assistant coach
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Curt Hill
>My vote would be for Eric Montross. True, I am slightly biased, being a
>Dookie. I will admit that Montross is a force in the middle, and an
>excellent inside scorer. But down on "Tobacco Road," the media hypes
>this guy like he's a Wooden Award candidate. He's a very good player
>in the best (reluctantly admitted) program in the country. But he is
>not a great player. It just so happens that this is a very down year
>centers, so Frankenstein might make 1st team All-American.
Yeah, this is coming from an "expert" here. Charlie, I think this post
pretty much dooms your Montross contentions.
>True story: After the collegian team played the Dream Team, Montross'
>confidence was so shattered that Deano had to sit him down and convince
>him that he can play basketball.
You are a moron, aren't you? Produce some evidence. I've already stated
the facts here 9 months ago. A summary for the clueless Duke fan:
Dean: I was worried that Eric might have his confidence hurt by playing
against those guys (but it didn't happen).
Eric: The time showed me I could play against that caliber of competition.
>How good is Sharone Wright? How does he stack up vs. Montross? I would
>be interested to see their stats for the games they played against each
>other. If someone would be good enough to post them...
Been there, done that...
Care to repost Charlie, or are you going to email them to him?
Or are you really Charlie, Mr. Big, Smart Duke Fan?
Curtis Hill
chill%st...@mcnc.org
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WILLIAM GAY
>>3. Bryant Reeves
> Overrated? Underrated if anything. When was the last time
> this guy ever made national headlines except for the fact his
> nickname is "Big Country" and he looks like he's straight off
> of the farm?
No, I know he is very good. But I can just see him being the "trendy"
guy for all the magazine who don't circulate as well as SI to yap about.
It is future angst which prompts my smear on the big guy.
>>How about underrated or underexposed players?
> U want underrated? Here's two names for U:
> Jarvis Lang
Crap! Crap! Crap! I totally forgot about this guy! He killed Duke as
a freshman. I remembered he got injured but I had been trying to keep
an eye on him. I am so embarrased...
-Will
James A Landay
>How about the real gunners. Are they good or not?
>
>1. Bob Sura
>2. Clarence Ceasar
>3. Lamont Murray
Lamond (I assume you are talking about Lamond Murray at Kal)
James
Brian Saunders
>
>1. Jalen Rose
I won't comment on this. Today I'm applying the old addage that if you
can't say something nice about somebody, don't say anything at all.
>2. Rashard Griffin
I guess Jazzy has already flamed you for this, but I will too: if you
can't get the names of the players right, don't bother posting. Such a
lack in professionalism reflects badly on the good Duke fans like Orin.
I assume you meant "Rashard Griffith". Well, I'd like to know who is
overrating him. Up here, we are just happy we have somebody talented in
the post. Not anything against Jeff Petersen or Grant Johnson, but Jeff is
really a forward, and Grant does not simply show up in the scoring column.
If Rashard can get 10+ ppg and around 7 to 8 rpg, I'll be happy.
>3. Bryant Reeves
Nah - this guy is underrated. Not that the Big 8 is the most powerful
conference in the country, but it probably is in the top 5, and any guy
that can lead the conference in ppg and rpg has got to be talented.
>How about underrated or underexposed players?
If I knew about them, they wouldn't be underexposed. :^)
Last year, I would have said Michael Finley, but he has shown up on many
pre-season all-American lists. I guess I'll have to say Pat Baldwin of
Northwestern and Tracy Webster of Wisconsin should be on this list, because
both are much better POINT GUARDS than Jalen Rose (I think Rose is a better
basketball player when his head is in the game, but he is not a point
guard).
Orin Day
> True story: After the collegian team played the Dream Team, Montross'
> confidence was so shattered that Deano had to sit him down and convince
> him that he can play basketball.
Oh really? True in what sense?
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Roy Navarre
>Hi, my name is Roy, though I like to call myself Pinhead. I think that I
>am real cute by trying to fish for Cal fans. Won't you please play with
>me? I've been so lonely lately, since everybody seems infinitely more
>interested in discussing ACC point guards, and watching Brian get into
>flame wars with new readers, than they are at picking on old pinhead.
Brian...I am becoming more and more concerned about you. You are in
desparate need of a life. Let me introduce a novel concept for you:
Girlfriend.
Try it sometime you might like it.
Pinhead
The Crossjammer
Pinhead...I am becoming more and more concerned about you. You are in
desperate need of a life. Let me introduce a novel concept for you:
Shaq love dolls.
Try it again you might like it.
Neil Das Gupta
inescapable answer is Jalen Rose.
Jazzy J is right, Jarvis Lang is an excellent player. Now that his knee
has rehealed, he should emerge into national recognition.
Two questions:
1. What kind of a year did Terrence Rencher have last year? I know his
freshman year was excellent, but didn't he have somewhat of a down
year last year?
2. What do people expect from David Vaughn this year? Is he fully
healed? IMHO, he looked damn good in 91-92.
-Figaro
Brian Saunders
>
>Brian...I am becoming more and more concerned about you. You are in
>desparate need of a life. Let me introduce a novel concept for you:
>Girlfriend.
>Try it sometime you might like it.
The problem, Roy, is that you, for some odd reason, think that I have
control of that situation. Obviously you have never seen me, or you would
understand why I don't have one.
But back to the post - I thought you were beyond these pathetic "get a
life" posts. I guess every once in a while, you remind me that the
difference between you and a net.freshman is quite trivial.
George W. Harris
>In article <27odd0$i...@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>,
>Roy Navarre <nava...@ava.bcc.orst.edu> wrote:
>>Who will be the most overrated, overhyped player in college next year?
>
> Let's permute this one one turn (having not read the
>replies to this thread, I think I can play): Who will the
>net posters nominate for the answer to this?
>
> Charles Board will say Eric Montross.
Oh, of course he would. If he didn't, I would. I wouldn't want
*anyone* to miss the hilarious knee-jerk responses of (many) UNC fans when
anyone dares say that any non-UNC player is better than any UNC player, or
that a UNC player has some drawback or disadvantage. It is to laugh.
>f...@walras.econ.duke.edu <Forrest Smith>
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Orin Day
> Hi Pinhead! How's Geert doing?
>
> Pinhead...I am becoming more and more concerned about you. You are in
> desperate need of a life. Let me introduce a novel concept for you:
> Shaq love dolls.
> Try it again you might like it.
You forgot my (tm)!!!!!!!
The Crossjammer
My machine will call your machine tomorrow.
Shaq Love Dolls (TM), now sweeping Oregon!
Roy Navarre
>The problem, Roy, is that you, for some odd reason, think that I have
>control of that situation. Obviously you have never seen me, or you would
>understand why I don't have one.
Brian, You are in control of the situation. Get of your lazy ass and go
work out. You body is a temple, treat it that way. If you don't respect
your body why on earth should _any_ girl? Turn, your computer off _right_
now. This instant. Go outside and run 3 miles. You'll thank me for it later.
>But back to the post - I thought you were beyond these pathetic "get a
>life" posts. I guess every once in a while, you remind me that the
>difference between you and a net.freshman is quite trivial.
I dont think 5 or so inches is that trivial....... (rimshot)
>My posts do not represent the views of the University of Wisconsin.
Or any other intelligent life form.
>Brian Saunders saun...@luther.che.wisc.edu
Pinhead (ps do yourself a favour and save your little barbs for that
dweeb marek)
Roy Navarre
taken next year if he came out.
*laugh/cackle/wipe tears from cheek*
Ok, its time. Time for another Pinhead Insight.
Jason Kidd is the most overrated college player since Danny Ferry.
Pinhead (ahead of the game as usual)
Robert Mackenna (CE)
>In article <27qq93$4...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> jt2...@ehsn5.cen.uiuc.edu (Jed Daniel Tai) writes:
>> Jarvis Lang
>> Kendrick Warren
>
>Lang is definitely underrated, UNCC doesn't get much pub. He's a tremendous
>player.
>
>
ago when we were growing up "Down East" in North Carolina.
Of course, after playing pickup with me and my "Dream Team" mates, Jeff
Mullins had to sit him down and have a long talk with him to restore his
shattered confidence.
:-)
- Rob Mac K
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Matthew Merzbacher
Some moron on r.c.bb.pro suggested that Kidd might be the second player
taken next year if he came out.
*laugh/cackle/wipe tears from cheek*
Ok, its time. Time for another Pinhead Insight.
Jason Kidd is the most overrated college player since Danny Ferry.
Roy has hit the nail on the (Pin)head. Roy, do you remember what pick
Danny Ferry was in the NBA draft?
Roy Navarre
(ps whats a crossjammer anyway? Is that a reference to sexual orientation?)
>Hi Pinhead! How's Geert doing?
Quite well thank you very much. He was drafted in the first round by the best
team in the NBA. He is making more money in one year than you will in your
twisted life. This year he will play in Europe, because thats what the
Magic wanted. The Pro group agrees with me that Geert will be a better than
average NBA center. More questions?
>Who was the most overrated, overhyped player in college ever?
>I think I will have to go with Shaquille O'Neal. Sorry, the guy is a decent
>center, but no way does he merit some of the praise he has received. Close
>runner up will be some of the talent at Kentucky. I would say Chris
>Jackson, but I think his bubble has already been burst????
Havent you heard? A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
>xj...@cork.Berkeley.EDU Fiiiive little centimeters--thats all I have.
>
>They can't come on and play me in prime time, |Size is overrated.
>Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine. |Being small I try harder
>I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy |Please email me.
>
Interesting sig. *comfort*
(at least you ain't that guy they will be talking about on 20-20 tongiht)
Pinhead
Jeff Smith
|> In article <20...@news.duke.edu> w...@acpub.duke.edu (WILLIAM GAY) writes:
|> >2. Rashard Griffin
|>
|> I guess Jazzy has already flamed you for this, but I will too: if you
|> can't get the names of the players right, don't bother posting. Such a
|> lack in professionalism reflects badly on the good Duke fans like Orin.
|>
|> I assume you meant "Rashard Griffith". Well, I'd like to know who is
|> overrating him. Up here, we are just happy we have somebody talented in
|> the post. Not anything against Jeff Petersen or Grant Johnson, but Jeff is
|> really a forward, and Grant does not simply show up in the scoring column.
|> If Rashard can get 10+ ppg and around 7 to 8 rpg, I'll be happy.
As a Purdue fan, I fear he will do much better than that! I'm just pissed
that he didn't become a Boilermaker (rumor has it he was very close).
I don't know how anyone can claim he's overrated before he's ever played
a game of college ball...
jds
The Crossjammer
Stooping to altering my .sig?
Why you are an overrated poster.
What's the matter, is your Shaq Love Doll (TM) not putting out tonight?
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: Check Arizona's roster for leading candidates...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: Locally, I'd have to go with poor, misguided Rodrick Rhodes. What happened to
: this guy anyway?!
:
: Mike
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right, and you know absoLUTEly nothing. I can always look forward to
reading the news and acquainting myself with the views of people who
are on a much higher plane of ignorance than myself. A case in point
is the statement made by Mr. Lerner. As anyone who knows anything
about Arizona basketball will tell you, the individual talent which
the team has is, on average, very impressive. The problem is that as
a team they are way overrated because they cannot win in the
tournament. You may being saying to yourself, "Hey, this guy is
wrapped way too tight.". All I can say is that if you had your heart
ripped out for the last two consecutive years you would be a little
touchy too.
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Roy Navarre
> You may being saying to yourself, "Hey, this guy is
> wrapped way too tight.". All I can say is that if you had your heart
> ripped out for the last two consecutive years you would be a little
> touchy too.
Why do I suddenly feel like a shark? Could it be because I smell blood
in the water............
Pinhead (Arizona, the Michigan of college basketball)
Marek Lugowski
>Pinhead (Arizona, the Michigan of college basketball)
Michigan, the Michigan of college basketball.
To michigan away a game (viz. at Indiana, also with Indiana, with Kentucky).
To michigan a championship (against Duke).
Congrats to Michigan for occasionally not michiganing.
-- Marek
Marcel R Phelps
I' ve played with him all my life. We were backcourt partners in Edison
park and now he has moved on to bigger better things.
Arsenal:
Killer crossover
Jump shot
38' vertical
Pass out his ass
6'6
Born ,raised, played in New York
Now I don't want you to think that I'm over rating him but let me just
say that every camp he went to he came out on top (NIKE, FIVE STAR, ETC).
I've played with Kenny Anderson, Derrick Phelps, Anthony Mason and a lot
more and nobody has ever impressed me like he does. Well just keep an
eye out for :
6'6 point guard
shooting guard
small forward
power forward
backcourt partner
Jamal Robinson (freshman Virginia ACC)
Watch out for what he's going to do for Virginia. I'm willing to bet
that he 's the ACC rookie of the year. Now personally I'm a UNC fan and
I know STACK HOUSE is also going to be a rookie but I'm going to stick
to my prediction.
Please reply if you've heard of the man or have any other comments.
(I really want to know if their are true College basketball fans at CMU)
Marcel
(freshman from Queens New York)
Brian Saunders
>In article <1993Sep23.1...@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saun...@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian Saunders) writes:
>>The problem, Roy, is that you, for some odd reason, think that I have
>>control of that situation. Obviously you have never seen me, or you would
>>understand why I don't have one.
>
>Brian, You are in control of the situation. Get of your lazy ass and go
>work out. You body is a temple, treat it that way. If you don't respect
>your body why on earth should _any_ girl? Turn, your computer off _right_
>now. This instant. Go outside and run 3 miles. You'll thank me for it later.
I play 2 hours of basketball on Saturday morning, and ride my bike about 30
minutes a day. Is that enough for you? I am planning to get over to the
gym a bit more, though.
But, as usual, you have obviously missed the point. I can exercise all I
want, and I'll still be butt-ugly.
However, I can't figure out why somebody who posts as much as me accuses me
of spending too much time with news.
Oh, and I never turn my computer off. That is not a smart thing to do with
a multi-user DEC station that runs jobs 24 hours a day.
>>But back to the post - I thought you were beyond these pathetic "get a
>>life" posts. I guess every once in a while, you remind me that the
>>difference between you and a net.freshman is quite trivial.
>
>I dont think 5 or so inches is that trivial....... (rimshot)
Hey, Roy made a funny.
>>My posts do not represent the views of the University of Wisconsin.
>
>Or any other intelligent life form.
Hey, Roy made an even better funny.
>Pinhead (ps do yourself a favour and save your little barbs for that
>dweeb marek)
If it hasn't become clear to you, I do not initiate - I respond. If you
wouldn't have bothered me in the first place, I wouldn't have said
anything. But then again, there is an awful lot of things that fall under
the "bother me" category.
--
My posts do not represent the views of the University of Wisconsin.
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Erik Joseph Velapoldi
Man oh man am I liking this news. I heard Robinson was a great
two-guard/small forward, but this is better than expected. We
still need a good big man, though; 7'0" goofy guys from junior
colleges who only score 3 points a game aren't going to cut it.
Erik
UVA Basketball -- exercise in frustration
an...@maple.circa.ufl.edu
saun...@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian Saunders) writes:
>But, as usual, you have obviously missed the point. I can exercise all I
>want, and I'll still be butt-ugly.
This kind of self-deprecation is pretty bad, Bri, even for you.
I'm trying to figure out what motivation you would have to tell
an entire newsgroup how physically unattractive you are.
I don't know you that well, but I don't think you're looking
for pity. You don't seem to be too big on pity.
You could just be stating it at face value, but such honesty
with the people on this net, many of which you admittedly do
not like and/or think are morons, seems out of place.
So Bri, I honestly don't know why you would post such a thing,
but maybe your angriness and annoyance at other posters on
the net is just your outlet for all the built-up self-loathing.
Maybe the truth is that the only way you can deal with your
supposed physical shortcomings is to redirect your anger at
others who provide any opportunity whatsoever.
Maybe you WANT people to get angry with you so they will
express the disapproval you feel your appearance warrants.
You've got to let it go, Brian. Release the anger.
No one else is ever going to love you (except maybe your
parents) until you love yourself.
I'm only pointing these things out because I care about
my fellow brethren. Even you, Bri. Lighten up.
Smile, show those pearly whites. Introduce yourself to
people. Let out that Brian Saunders that's been trapped
inside for so long. Show the world what you have to
offer. Don't settle for second best!
Remember, YOU ARE BRIAN SAUNDERS!!!!!
No one else can claim that distinction!
Now go out there and show 'em the new, improved Brian Saunders!
I know you can do it.
Your inspirational pal,
Tony DeMatio
UF
Orin Day
> I dont think 5 or so inches is that trivial....... (rimshot)
No, it's just not fair to take this out of context.
Marek Lugowski
[the fourth case in english:]
>>But, as usual, you have obviously missed the point. I can exercise all I
>>want, and I'll still be butt-ugly.
>I don't know you that well, but I don't think you're looking
>for pity. You don't seem to be too big on pity.
no, Brian is looking the the stunning woman who goes for the butt-ugly guy.
Can can you miss this?! It's a play as old as Jerusalem.
[bull diagnosis excised]
>You've got to let it go, Brian. Release the anger.
>No one else is ever going to love you (except maybe your
>parents) until you love yourself.
forgive me, I am not up on my Bible, but are you talking the story of Onan?
>I'm only pointing these things out because I care about
>my fellow brethren. Even you, Bri. Lighten up.
>Smile, show those pearly whites. Introduce yourself to
>people. Let out that Brian Saunders that's been trapped
>inside for so long. Show the world what you have to
>offer.
Yeah, Brian. That lacy one size too tight number in rayon, black. Don't
save it for a Purdue Big-10 championship anymore... it will be too many
sizes too small by then, assuming the championship happens.
>Don't settle for second best!
Second best is much better than 11th best. Ask Michigan and Penn State.
>Remember, YOU ARE BRIAN SAUNDERS!!!!!
>No one else can claim that distinction!
No no no... you are 415-33-12123 or whatever social security named you to
keep you distinct but good. (invalid number on purpose)
>Now go out there and show 'em the new, improved Brian Saunders!
With Amonia D? With more Nonoxynol-9 than ever before?
>I know you can do it.
Precognition?
>Your inspirational pal,
Is that denominational or inter-faith?
>Tony DeMatio
>UF
three rings for the elven kings. whoopie.
-- Marek
Orin Day
writes:
> Remember, YOU ARE BRIAN SAUNDERS!!!!!
> No one else can claim that distinction!
Wrong. There are two in the DC phone book alone.
Jack Peterson
> In article <27ofkr$i...@news.acns.nwu.edu> ma...@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski) writes:
>
> My officemate actually inquired about he prospects of Oregon State
> men's basketball team; are they any good this year, he said, and --
> to protect his integrity -- he did not care, it was for a friend of his...
>
> I would say, not good. Same (lame) coach, worse team. The big loss
> this year is Scott Haskin (good enough for the first round NBA - though
> some in Indiana wonder why). I believe (though I'm not sure) that Chad
> Scott is back, but I can't imagine the Beavers having a great year.
>
> I would guess that there will be 3 tiers in the PAC-10 this year (as
> usual). The top will be Arizona, UCLA and Cal. The next tier will
> hold ASU, WSU (maybe), USC and Oregon State. Washington, Oregon and
> Stanford should bring up the rear. Just a guess from an old Pac-10
> Salt who has moved on to ECAC land.
Actually Chad has also graduated, or at least used up his eligibility at
OSU. This year will be the pits for OSU. Hopefully we will move on to a
new coach next year, and with the big man transferring in this year
becoming eligible next, and Brent Barry being a senior, we should have
a very good team.
Jack
Orin Day
Lugowski) writes:
> <an...@maple.circa.ufl.edu>:
> >You've got to let it go, Brian. Release the anger.
> >No one else is ever going to love you (except maybe your
> >parents) until you love yourself.
> forgive me, I am not up on my Bible, but are you talking the story of Onan?
Sure you don't mean Red Sonja?
WILLIAM GAY
OK! Shut it!
Congrats, frosh from Queens! After only 4 posts (and a little over 3
minutes) you have made the kill file. You are also under strong
consideration for the season's first "Sphincter of the Week" award.
NYCity people definitely talk trash. Nothing but it!
-Will
Roy Navarre
>Can can you miss this?! It's a play as old as Jerusalem.
No shit.
It worked big time for Lyle Lovett. *sniff*
Pinhead
ps now _that_ is God's perfect creation!!!!!!!!
(in reference to Mrs. Lovett for the slow witted out there)
(ie southern boys)
John P. Eisenmenger
> They're gone? They've been around forever...
[...]
> 4. Bob Hurley
This, from a Duke student? Sad thing is we'll still hear about him whenever
Danny Hurley (Seton Hall) plays ("Of course Danny is the brother of Bobby ...").
-John
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|> My vote would be for Eric Montross. True, I am slightly biased, being a
|> Dookie.
Yeah, right. Yet another person that doesn't understand the concept of what
a center is. Most of the college basketball has basically given up on the
traditional big man and gone for "more flexible" big forward types. This is
not the case under Smith. I agree that Montross is a bit mechanical with what
he does, but he's about the best there is doing it. As far as UNC is concerned,
he's the best center they've had in a long, long time...
|> I will admit that Montross is a force in the middle, and an
|> excellent inside scorer.
Yes and it's just because of his size, right? Go to a UNC practice and you'll
see him practicing those moves over and over and over and ... No, he isn't
quick like a forward, but he does get the job done.
|> True story: After the collegian team played the Dream Team, Montross'
|> confidence was so shattered that Deano had to sit him down and convince
|> him that he can play basketball.
Heh, heh. Good one!
|> How good is Sharone Wright?
Sharone did very well the first time they met last year, but quickly amassed his
quota of fouls. After he went out Montross was much more effective. Montross
also had problems against Luther Wright (sp?) of Seton Hall. The thing is, even
though he had problems he was able to either wear them down or get them in foul
trouble -- you see, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
WILLIAM GAY
>|> How good is Sharone Wright?
>Sharone did very well the first time they met last year, but quickly amassed his
>quota of fouls. After he went out Montross was much more effective. Montross
>also had problems against Luther Wright (sp?) of Seton Hall. The thing is, even
>though he had problems he was able to either wear them down or get them in foul
>trouble -- you see, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
Just a cautionairy note here, John. Just as Montross is not the only
reason UNC is so successful, similarly he is not the sole reason Sharone
fouled out. Due to the helping, suffocating nature of UNC's defense and
the plethora of passing lanes characteristically left unguarded by the
Clemson defense Sharone Wright was left to defend the hoops by himself
far more often than Montross. It is rare to see two opposing players
converging on Montross and the rim, whereas this painful dissection is
witnessed 6 times a half against Clemson. Man to man, Wright had the
edge on Montross on terms of quickness and strength. Physically, Sharone
appears to be a marginally better pro prospect than Montross.
Luther Wright is not as good as either of the ACC centers, but his bulk
helped to cloud the one on one comparison. Most of his problems are in
his head. I was extremely impressed with he way Sharone Wright played
against FSU (I think). He can dominate in a way reminiscent of O'Neill.
Another reason why these centers fouled out so quickly would of course
be the UNC bias that the refs carry with them. Dean has got them all
snookered into believing that UNC never fouls. 8-)
Just kidding there. I find it funny that I always feel that Wirtz and
Paparro dislike Duke. My UNC friends think he hates them. My
girlfriend (NCSU '91) sees the same bias as a State fan. I guess the
grass is always greener. Either that or they are lousy refs who leave
too many question marks behind them. This I believe.
-Will
WILLIAM GAY
>> They're gone? They've been around forever...
>This, from a Duke student?
Hey, I was very happy to have him around forever! It is just that when
a point guard plays in the title game in his first 3 seasons he seems to
be around forever. My list was an attempt in objectivity. I am sure
that folks in Nebraska, who get as little coverage of the ACC as we do
of the Big Eight, were thinking "Isn't he a senior yet?".
>Sad thing is we'll still hear about him whenever Danny Hurley (Seton
> Hall) plays ("Of course Danny is the brother of Bobby ...")
Reminds me of "A League of Their Own". Danny must have a complex.
-Will
Neil Das Gupta
refs in the country? I think I remember reading that somewhere. I guess
when everyone hates you, you're doing a good job.
George W. Harris
>a center is. Most of the college basketball has basically given up on the
>traditional big man and gone for "more flexible" big forward types. This is
>not the case under Smith. I agree that Montross is a bit mechanical with what
>he does, but he's about the best there is doing it. As far as UNC is concerned,
>he's the best center they've had in a long, long time...
Quick! Name all the great `true' centers to play at UNC!
Uh, uh,...
Geoff Crompton? True, but not great. Sam Perkins? More of a big
forward type (I remember one game where he and Sampson go into a 3-point
shooting contest. Not what one usually remembers about prototype centers.
UNC just hasn't had many really good true centers in the past
twenty years. The best I can recall is Tommy LaGarde, who was pretty
good. Still, calling Montross the best center UNC's had in a long, long
time is really faint praise.
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George W. Harris <gha...@jade.tufts.edu> wrote:
>In article <21...@news.duke.edu> j...@ee.duke.edu (John P. Eisenmenger) writes:
>>
> Quick! Name all the great `true' centers to play at UNC!
>
> Uh, uh,...
>
> Geoff Crompton? True, but not great. Sam Perkins? More of a big
>forward type (I remember one game where he and Sampson go into a 3-point
>shooting contest. Not what one usually remembers about prototype centers.
>
> UNC just hasn't had many really good true centers in the past
>twenty years. The best I can recall is Tommy LaGarde, who was pretty
>good. Still, calling Montross the best center UNC's had in a long, long
>time is really faint praise.
Well Perkins was a starting center last year for two NBA teams so he
musk know something about it :-). Of course there is some guy named
Brad Daugherty who was a center for UNC who is a 6(?) time All-Star
*CENTER* in the NBA. To say Montross is better then Daugherty is
hardly "faint praise". It is however, incorrect :-).
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> Quick! Name all the great `true' centers to play at UNC!
Okay, the greatest of them all was: George Glamack.
(I wish I could remember how to spell his name, but the
post has expired with my last mention of him.)
> UNC just hasn't had many really good true centers in the past
>twenty years. The best I can recall is Tommy LaGarde, who was pretty
>good.
Tommy LaGarde? Try Rusty Clark. Or maybe Bob McAdoo.
Haven't we been here before?
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Charles Board P025
|> In article <93265.173...@uicvm.uic.edu>, U29...@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
|> |> My vote would be for Eric Montross. True, I am slightly biased, being a
|> |> Dookie.
|>
|> Yeah, right. Yet another person that doesn't understand the concept of what
|> a center is.
The traditional concept of a center usually involves a strong rebounding
factor. Montross doesn't have it.
|> Most of the college basketball has basically given up on the
|> traditional big man and gone for "more flexible" big forward types. This is
|> not the case under Smith. I agree that Montross is a bit mechanical with what
|> he does, but he's about the best there is doing it. As far as UNC is concerned,
|> he's the best center they've had in a long, long time...
Montross strarted in '91 and UNC had a center as recently as '90 that was
better then than Montross is now - you do remember Scott Williams don't you?
And you don't have go go back very far to get to Daugherty and Perkins.
Montross is, at best, UNC's 3rd-best center in the last decade. And I'd put
him 4th.
|>
|> |> I will admit that Montross is a force in the middle, and an
|> |> excellent inside scorer.
|>
|> Yes and it's just because of his size, right? Go to a UNC practice and you'll
|> see him practicing those moves over and over and over and ... No, he isn't
|> quick like a forward, but he does get the job done.
I'm tempted to ask "*What* moves?", but there's not much point so I won't.
|>
|> |> How good is Sharone Wright?
|>
|> Sharone did very well the first time they met last year, but quickly amassed his
|> quota of fouls. After he went out Montross was much more effective. Montross
|> also had problems against Luther Wright (sp?) of Seton Hall. The thing is, even
|> though he had problems he was able to either wear them down or get them in foul
|> trouble -- you see, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
|>
Montross spent much more time in foul trouble last year than Wright. Eric
committed a foul every 10 minutes, while Wright got almost 12 minutes per
foul. Don't forget that teams with only 5 big man fouls to give (like
Clemson) had to contend with UNC's 15 (Montross, Salvadori, Sullivan).
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>mar...@brtph678.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>|>
>|> Scott Williams was a better center than Montross? That's a good one...
>
>I might be reaching a little but it's not out of the question.
>
>As it is (with the foul problems) Montross is probably better...but not by
>a whole lot.
Do I have this correct?
1. Montross is probably a better center than Williams (see above).
2. You would call Montross the 4th best UNC center in 10 years behind
Perkins, Daugherty, and the same Williams (based on information from
your previous post).
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Andrew Markham P205
>|>
>|> Most of the college basketball has basically given up on the
>|> traditional big man and gone for "more flexible" big forward types. This is
>|> not the case under Smith. I agree that Montross is a bit mechanical with
>|> what he does, but he's about the best there is doing it. As far as UNC is
>|> concerned, he's the best center they've had in a long, long time...
>
>better then than Montross is now - you do remember Scott Williams don't you?
Scott Williams was a better center than Montross? That's a good one...
>And you don't have go go back very far to get to Daugherty and Perkins.
>Montross is, at best, UNC's 3rd-best center in the last decade.
Name 5 ACC centers better than Daugherty and Perkins in the last 10 years...
Being 3rd-best behind those two ain't much to be ashamed of.
>And I'd put him 4th.
Obviously, we are not surprised...
Charles Board P025
|> cnc...@bnr.ca (Charles Board P025) writes:
|> >j...@ee.duke.edu (John P. Eisenmenger) writes:
|> >|>
|> >|> Most of the college basketball has basically given up on the
|> >|> traditional big man and gone for "more flexible" big forward types. This is
|> >|> not the case under Smith. I agree that Montross is a bit mechanical with
|> >|> what he does, but he's about the best there is doing it. As far as UNC is
|> >|> concerned, he's the best center they've had in a long, long time...
|> >
|> >Montross started in '91 and UNC had a center as recently as '90 that was
|> >better then than Montross is now - you do remember Scott Williams don't you?
|>
|> Scott Williams was a better center than Montross? That's a good one...
I might be reaching a little but it's not out of the question.
Their career numbers are pretty close...
MPG FGAPG-% FTAPG-% RPG FPG APG A/TO BPG SPG PPG
Williams 22.1 7.8-.551 3.6-.633 6.2 3.2 0.9 0.47 1.2 1.0 10.9
Montross 23.0 7.1-.596 3.9-.656 6.3 2.9 0.5 0.39 1.0 0.4 11.1
The only real difference is that Montross shoots a higher percentage,
but I think Williams had a little more range.
Their best seasons are pretty close...
SW '90 24.6 10.4-.554 4.7-.615 7.3 3.5 0.8 0.35 1.2 1.1 14.3
EM '93 28.3 9.5-.615 6.0-.684 7.6 3.0 0.7 0.42 1.2 0.6 15.8
...looks like a bigger edge than it is because of Montross' PT. Adjust
Scottie's line to the same MPG and you get..
SW90 adj 28.3 12.0-.554 5.4-.615 8.4 4.0 0.9 0.35 1.4 1.3 16.4
And of course Montross had more room to operate, since you told us the
opponents defense had to key on Donald Williams (not to mention George
Lynch) :^)
Williams only major problem was that he just couldn't stay out of foul
trouble to save his life (22 DQ's in 4 seasons). If he had learned to do
that, his PT would have shot up to about 30mpg, he would have been getting
~18 ppg and ~9 rpg, he would have been All-ACC a couple of times and no
one would dream of comparing the Monstrossity to him. As it is (with the
foul problems) Montross is probably better...but not by a whole lot.
|>Name 5 ACC centers better than Daugherty and Perkins in the last 10 years...
Huh? Of course there haven't been 5 better than those guys, but I can
easily name 5 better than Montross
Definitely Better: Daugherty, Perkins, Elden Campbell, Horace Grant,
Tom Hammonds, Olden Polynice
Maybe better, maybe not: Derrick Lewis, Chris Washburn, Dale Davis
Only slightly behind Montross: Sharone Wright (so far), Malcolm Mackey,
Yvon Joseph, Anthony Teachey, Ben Coleman, Scott Williams, Cherokee
Parks (so far)
|>Being 3rd-best behind those two ain't much to be ashamed of.
Maybe you didn't read the post I was replying to. The guy claimed Lurch
was the best UNC center in a "long, long time". You agree with that or
not? He clearly ain't in the Perkins/Daugherty league and, at least to
me, 10 years doesn't qualify as a "long, long time".
C. Urmudgeon
>UNC just hasn't had many really good true centers in the past
>twenty years...
Anyone remember Brad Daugherty?
C. Urmudgeon,
Prince of Darkness
(not a Tar Heel fan, but I
felt compelled to throw this
out there in the interest of
justice)
Charles Board P025
|> cnc...@bnr.ca (Charles Board P025) writes:
|> >mar...@brtph678.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
|> >|>
|> >|> Scott Williams was a better center than Montross? That's a good one...
|> >
|> >I might be reaching a little but it's not out of the question.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >
|> >As it is (with the foul problems) Montross is probably better...but not by
|> >a whole lot.
|>
|> Do I have this correct?
|>
|> 1. Montross is probably a better center than Williams (see above).
|> 2. You would call Montross the 4th best UNC center in 10 years behind
|> Perkins, Daugherty, and the same Williams (based on information from
|> your previous post).
Yeah, I've finally mastered that Carolina logic. :^)
For the record, I admitted (see above) that the first claim (#2 above)
was a reach.
John P. Eisenmenger
|> In article <CE4FD...@news.tufts.edu>,
|> George W. Harris <gha...@jade.tufts.edu> wrote:
|> > UNC just hasn't had many really good true centers in the past
|> >twenty years.
True, but that wasn't due to lack of trying. UNC has had plenty of true
centers over the years, good ones though... Still, UNC has not followed
the trend to the all-forward team (a la Duke), nor will they in the
foreseeable future.
|> [ ... ] Of course there is some guy named
|> Brad Daugherty who was a center for UNC who is a 6(?) time All-Star
|> *CENTER* in the NBA. To say Montross is better then Daugherty is
|> hardly "faint praise". It is however, incorrect :-).
Brad tended to finesse the ball into the basket trying to draw the foul.
When Eric gets the ball down low a basket will usually be made (usually
with authority), free throws are icing on the cake. Thus I humbly
disagree with your last assertion with respect to their college careers.
-John
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> Montross spent much more time in foul trouble last year than Wright.
That may be true, but not when they went head-to-head at Clemson, which is
what I interpreted the original question to ask. In the first game Wright
was ejected early in the second half, period.
> I'm tempted to ask "*What* moves?", but there's not much point so I won't.
Jump hooks with both hands, not to mention getting position without being
called for fouls.
> Maybe you didn't read the post I was replying to. The guy claimed Lurch
> was the best UNC center in a "long, long time". You agree with that or
> not? He clearly ain't in the Perkins/Daugherty league and, at least to
> me, 10 years doesn't qualify as a "long, long time".
Statistically you've shot me down I will admit. But, statistically speaking,
James Worthy was a lousy ball handler, as he was either first or second in the
ACC for turnovers his last year.
BTW, once you start multiplying out statistics they lose all validity. If
you look at Kevin Madden's freshman stats and multiply them into real playing
time he becomes the team star. Sorry, that just doesn't wash...
I maintain that he is a better center than Scott Williams despite what your
statistics say. To me he seems much more solid and dependable. Maybe it's
because he doesn't whine about foul calls, or that he isn't on the sidelines
with an icepack on his shoulder. Maybe it's just because he has a better
supporting cast. I don't know what it is, but that's how I feel about it.
I can see your point too. He's limited and mechanical. But I think he does
more for this team than Scott did for his.
By "long, long time" I think a decade qualifies. If it doesn't, then let me
retract my statement and rephrase it to that end.
Joshua Benton (CC 1997)
>> Maybe you didn't read the post I was replying to. The guy claimed Lurch
^^^^^
Now, if you're going to call a Carolina center Lurch, it's better be Serge
Zwikker...
>I maintain that he is a better center than Scott Williams despite what your
>statistics say.
Actually the reason why Montross' career stats are only marginally better
than Scott's is that this year will, in all probability, be his best one
statistically and boost those averages. Now, if you compared Montross'
first three years against Williams', you'd get a much fairer estimation
(which would show Montross clearly ahead of Scott).
P.S. Eric will be the grand marshal at the Fall Festival in Montross,
Virginia. Has Scott Williams ever been? NOOOOOO.......
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Aaron Jordan
Hey! Now let's not leave out some of the great centers of UNC that
people seem to be forgettng about.
Bobby Jones J.R. Ried Joe Wolf(Even though he hasn't made an
impact in the NBA, he still is the holder of a few records at UNC)
Scott Williams and many more.
So please, if you don't know anything about UNC's past centers (this goes for
all you dookies) please don't post anything!
Aaron
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> Hey! Now let's not leave out some of the great centers of UNC that
>people seem to be forgettng about.
> Bobby Jones J.R. Ried Joe Wolf(Even though he hasn't made an
> impact in the NBA, he still is the holder of a few records at UNC)
> Scott Williams and many more.
> So please, if you don't know anything about UNC's past centers (this goes for
>all you dookies) please don't post anything!
With the exception of Scott Williams, none of these players even played
center, did they? I guess Joe Wolf might have (I can't remember if he or
Popson was the nominal center, since they're really both just big forwards).
So please, if you don't know anything about UNC's past centers (this goes for
all you Tarholes) please don't post anything!
- Rob Mac K
>
>
>
> Aaron
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> So please, if you don't know anything about UNC's past centers (this goes for
>all you dookies) please don't post anything!
> Aaron
Looks like someone has been mellowed, Aaron! Well done, Curtis... 8-)
Anyway, take it easy throwing around the term "dookie". Not all that
glitters is gold, as you know. Some of those with "dookie" posting
addresses are, in fact, behind enemy lines. Take Forest for example.
He is a fine, upstanding member of the rsbbc community and yet he is a
UNC fan @Duke. I know, I know, it took me a while to adjust too. But
anyway, the point of my post is that the person who originated the post
about UNC centers was in fact from Duke but not a "dookie". I think he
is a tar heel actually.
-Will
Slartibartfast
=In article <CEDtu...@uceng.uc.edu> ajo...@uceng.uc.edu (Aaron Jordan)
writes:
=
=> So please, if you don't know anything about UNC's past centers (this goes
for
=>all you dookies) please don't post anything!
=
=> Aaron
=
=Looks like someone has been mellowed, Aaron! Well done, Curtis... 8-)
=
=Anyway, take it easy throwing around the term "dookie". Not all that
=glitters is gold, as you know. Some of those with "dookie" posting
=addresses are, in fact, behind enemy lines. Take Forest for example.
=He is a fine, upstanding member of the rsbbc community and yet he is a
=UNC fan @Duke. I know, I know, it took me a while to adjust too. But
=anyway, the point of my post is that the person who originated the post
=about UNC centers was in fact from Duke but not a "dookie". I think he
=is a tar heel actually.
=
=-Will
Anyway, to get back to the original thread: Jalen Rose. Phelps runs
rings around him. Hell, so does Rennie Clemmons.
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>. . . Take Forest . . .
Isn't someone going to add, "Please"?
Oh, I thought you were talking about me there for a
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Brendan F Odonnell
>Obviously, Glenn Robinson.
>
I'm no Boiler fan whatsoever.....but are you kidding???????
He was by far and away the best player in college basketball LAST year
(That's right, better than Webber, Cheaney, Hardaway, and Mashburn). There's
no telling how far superior he'll be this year.
That's hard to say being a lifetime IU fan.
-Scott Hartig
Francis P Benda
And you call yourself a Purdue fan :^)
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Brian Saunders
>In article <1993Oct5.1...@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saun...@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian Saunders) writes:
>>Obviously, Glenn Robinson.
>
>I'm no Boiler fan whatsoever.....but are you kidding???????
Obviously you don't know what the term "fishing" means. :^)
Nor do you know what a big Purdue fan I am.
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Slartibartfast
=In article <1993Oct5.1...@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
saun...@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian Saunders) writes:
=>Obviously, Glenn Robinson.
=>
=
=I'm no Boiler fan whatsoever.....but are you kidding???????
=
=He was by far and away the best player in college basketball LAST year
=(That's right, better than Webber, Cheaney, Hardaway, and Mashburn). There's
=no telling how far superior he'll be this year.
=
=That's hard to say being a lifetime IU fan.
=
=-Scott Hartig
Brian, I think you have a bite. :-)
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