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RAKS

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Aug 2, 2003, 3:02:26 AM8/2/03
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Gas or Electric scooters or nice addition to your RV.
The X-treme 360 electric scooter is the favorite in RV clubs and
shows. Please take a minute to look at them on the website.
Colors to choose from: Yellow,Blue,Black,Burgundy.
View at:

http://www.raksbargains.com

phreadbarnz

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Aug 2, 2003, 11:40:41 AM8/2/03
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Or take a moment to read or ask whether this is a commercial NG or not.


"RAKS" <bur...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<SPAM Snipped>


Neon John

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Aug 2, 2003, 2:25:13 PM8/2/03
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Ignoring the blantant spam, these scooters are crap. They're chinese
knockoffs of reputable brands. Invariably very low power and very poor
electronics.

Obviously, gas scooters are not welcome in most camping areas and are not
legal in most.

If anyone is interested in a quality electric scooter, drop me a note and I'll
point you to some. Hint: You can't go wrong with the Currie brand.

John

---
John De Armond
johngdDO...@bellsouth.net
http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/
Cleveland, Occupied TN

john Q pubic

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Aug 2, 2003, 11:37:23 PM8/2/03
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>
>Gas or Electric scooters or nice addition to your RV.

scooters are for children and sissy's, get a motorcycle or take a cab......

RAKS

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Aug 2, 2003, 11:41:16 PM8/2/03
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Obviously you don't goto the RV shows that much, if you did you would
find out that the 360's are a consumers choice and is one of the
hottest wanted scooters on the market. So get your facts together..Oh
yeah! how is your Currie scooter site going?

Alan Balmer

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Aug 4, 2003, 12:02:53 PM8/4/03
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Obviously you don't use usenet much, or you'd know that spam is
unwelcome and likely to get you more bad press than customers.

--
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
removebalmerc...@att.net

RAKS

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Aug 5, 2003, 1:27:34 AM8/5/03
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You should try one before you knock it, the older people love it.
Plus we have 2 electric scooters on our RV for the teenagers that are
13 and 15, you should also understand that it's alot safer then
motorcycles for the elderly and younger kids that would like them, so
take a closer look at:

http://www.raksbargains.com

Tom Marik

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Aug 5, 2003, 8:09:40 AM8/5/03
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<< Your Play, Burk, AKA spammer. What other facts would you like to discuss?
>>

John De Armond,

You were too easy on him.

He should be hung with a new rope just for sale a scooter with no front brake.

Tom M

Alan Balmer

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Aug 5, 2003, 11:14:52 AM8/5/03
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On 4 Aug 2003 22:27:34 -0700, bur...@yahoo.com (RAKS) wrote:

>You should try one

Second spam, this time with full knowledge that it's against the
rules. At the risk of invoking another angry potty-mouth, I've
reported it to groups...@google.com

After John's report, perhaps it should be reported as fraud, as well.

Neon John

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Aug 5, 2003, 4:00:32 PM8/5/03
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True. However, considering that you can probably run faster than these things
will go on any sort of grade, dragging your feet would probably do.

My Badsey has no front brake, something I've flamed them about fairly
severely. Given that it can do 50+ with the governor bypassed, that is a
serious omission.

John

Tom Marik

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Aug 5, 2003, 10:43:31 PM8/5/03
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<< Let's not go overboard on this front brake thing. Neither my 1941, 1952, nor
1957 Cushman scooters has front brakes. If I recall correctly, it was only the
1941 that had the sophisticated "external contraction" drum brake in the rear.
And look how successful Cushman has been in the marketplace.

With 800 cc and 2.5 HP, your electrics could probably out-accellerate any of
those, too. >>

My Super Eagle with two speed transmission burned a lot of rubber when I
popped the clutch. It beat the Vespas of the day. For some reason, I don't
remember if it had a front brake.

Tom M

Neon John

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Aug 6, 2003, 1:40:17 AM8/6/03
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<spammer crep deleted>

Looks like a might have struck a nerve or two in this thread :-)

Look what I just received in my mailbox a few minutes ago. (I put in the
"dontyoudare"s to keep the spambots at bay. Remove 'em before clicking.)


---------

To: <joh...@bellsouth.net>
Subject: REPORT SUBMITTED REGARDING: johngdDO...@bellsouth.net
From: <REPORT...@THEINTERNETWATCHDOG.COM>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 22:03:16 -0700

WORD-OF-MOUTH.ORG REPORT AWARENESS SYSTEM

Do not reply to this email; it has been automatically generated.

Our automated system has sent this email to you because someone just
submitted a "Word-of-Mouth Report" at our website regarding the person or
persons that use this email address: johngdDO...@bellsouth.net.

Our automated Word-of-Mouth.Org Report Awareness System will continue to
inform you when and if reports regarding this email address are submitted
in the future.

If you do not want our system to send you notifications in the future when
and if reports are submitted simply add your email address to our Do Not
Email List using the above preformatted link.

To view all "Word-of-Mouth Reports" in our system regarding this email
address click here:
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For additonal information regarding how our site works please see our FAQ
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If you have any questions or comments please email us at:
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----------------

I, of course, can't prove that our friendly new scooter spammer posted this
since he chose to remain "anonymous" (synonymous with "coward") but given that
I've not flamed anyone else on the net in months....

Memo to spammer: Try Google. It's free. You'll be able to find out all you
need to know about me. Or just give me a call. My restaurant's in the phone
book.

I hadn't realized the internet had gotten this scummy. A gossip system in
which you have to pay to even correspond with someone who could be libeling
you. One can gauge the quality of the people running this site by the
mis-spelling(s) in the automated message :-)

It just dawned on me that this site could be useful. If someone would salt
the site with the names and addresses of the dullards on this forum who want
to talk politics and throw stones at others, then perhaps they'd use their
time flaming each other on the gossip board and leave this place alone.
Hmmmm...

GBinNC

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:21:52 AM8/8/03
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 21:23:33 -0700, cselliot <cs4...@cport.org> wrote:

>This place is getting scary..we have oddball's sending in bogus abuse
>complaints everytime someone mentions a product on RORT..how damn lame
>can they get. Well Mr Cybercop(s)....I suppose you'll also report Neon
>for also mentioning City Shuttle (which we enjoyed)!

The charter is clear: Businesses can't promote themselves. Individuals
are free to comment however they wish on businesses, products, and
services.

Try to understand the difference.

GB in NC

Tom Marik

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:40:11 AM8/8/03
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<< For some reason, I don't remember if it had a front brake. >>

<< From a safety standpoint,these elect scooters or small cc motorscooters are
fine in a RV park or convention center but they are extremely dangerous on the
road.. >>

cs4041,

The main safety problem was that I was a teenager then, had no training, and
thought I could be killed.

Tom M

Chris Bryant

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:43:50 AM8/8/03
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:40:11 +0000, Tom Marik wrote:

> The main safety problem was that I was a teenager then, had no training,
> and thought I could be killed.

When I was a teenager, I was immortal- didn't think anything could kill
me.

--
Chris Bryant
http://bryantrv.com


Lone Haranguer

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Aug 8, 2003, 9:12:43 AM8/8/03
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Chris Bryant wrote:
>
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:40:11 +0000, Tom Marik wrote:
>
> > The main safety problem was that I was a teenager then, had no training,
> > and thought I could be killed.
>
> When I was a teenager, I was immortal- didn't think anything could kill
> me.

I felt the same way and by golly I was right, I'm still alive.
LZ

GBinNC

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Aug 8, 2003, 9:22:12 AM8/8/03
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:43:50 GMT, Chris Bryant
<bryan...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 12:40:11 +0000, Tom Marik wrote:
>> The main safety problem was that I was a teenager then, had no training,
>> and thought I could be killed.

>When I was a teenager, I was immortal- didn't think anything could kill me.

You survived, so apparently you were right -- at least then.

GB in NC

HDinNY

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Aug 8, 2003, 9:41:13 AM8/8/03
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cselliot wrote:
snipped

> You need at least 250cc gas engine..that is the bottom line and if you
> want better advise,talk to a motorcycle policeman or I'll point ya to
> one. :)

Don't agree with that. An 80 cc bike is capable of anything
but turnpike speeds. Operation in an urban environment is as
safe as anything bigger.
HD in NY

HDinNY

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Aug 8, 2003, 9:42:49 AM8/8/03
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cselliot wrote:
snipped

> BTW,I'm been around Usenet long enough to know who the real enemies
> are!

So have I. Bye
HD in NY

Wade

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Aug 8, 2003, 11:24:40 AM8/8/03
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"HDinNY" <huf...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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In Europe where motorized bikes are far more common and taxed on engine
displacement and where most engines have less than 50 cc, any 80 cc bike
would have 6 speeds and easily be capable of turnpike speeds.
Wade

bill horne

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Aug 8, 2003, 11:42:16 AM8/8/03
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I thought it then, too - and I'm going to keep thinking it until the day
I lose the swordfight.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Alan Balmer

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Aug 8, 2003, 11:49:20 AM8/8/03
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 21:23:33 -0700, cselliot <cs4...@cport.org> wrote:

>In article <1aivivotch4tvn393...@4ax.com>, alba...@att.net
>says...

>This place is getting scary..we have oddball's sending in bogus abuse
>complaints everytime someone mentions a product on RORT..how damn lame
>can they get. Well Mr Cybercop(s)....I suppose you'll also report Neon
>for also mentioning City Shuttle (which we enjoyed)!
>

>Will you send in complaints about everyone who mentions products they
>enjoy today..your going to be a busy little cop! What you and your fellow
>wantabee newsgroup monitors are doing is screwing up the whole process
>with this type of BS,you obviously don't have a clue what real Usenet
>abuse is..not a friggen clue!

(Is this intended to be an example?)

Written from an address which has exactly one posting to Usenet
recorded by Google - an advertisement for your e-bay auction.


>
>
>BTW,I'm been around Usenet long enough to know who the real enemies
>are!

You not only haven't been around Usenet long enough to know the rules,
you haven't been alive and awake long enough to know the difference
between an advertisement and a user recommendation.

HDinNY

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Aug 8, 2003, 11:56:25 AM8/8/03
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Which is true of course. I just wouldn't climb on a Vespa
scooter and try to wrassle with heavy traffic on a turnpike.
Too much like playing Russian Roulette. Besides, even the
fastest scooters won't do typical wacky turnpike speeds,
plus it really isn't safe to have an angry trucker 6' off
your tail light at 70 mph. YMMV
HD in NY

Wade

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Aug 8, 2003, 12:07:23 PM8/8/03
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"Alan Balmer" <alba...@att.net> wrote in message
news:f8h7jvccctm1c7ht2...@4ax.com...

> >
> >Will you send in complaints about everyone who mentions products they
> >enjoy today..your going to be a busy little cop! What you and your fellow
> >wantabee newsgroup monitors are doing is screwing up the whole process
> >with this type of BS,you obviously don't have a clue what real Usenet
> >abuse is..not a friggen clue!
>
> (Is this intended to be an example?)
>
> Written from an address which has exactly one posting to Usenet
> recorded by Google - an advertisement for your e-bay auction.
> >
> >
> >BTW,I'm been around Usenet long enough to know who the real enemies
> >are!
>
> You not only haven't been around Usenet long enough to know the rules,
> you haven't been alive and awake long enough to know the difference
> between an advertisement and a user recommendation.
>
> --
> Al Balmer
> Balmer Consulting
> removebalmerc...@att.net

You have to admit he is one president little bugger with his spam.
Wade

Wade

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Aug 8, 2003, 12:29:15 PM8/8/03
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"HDinNY" <huf...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:bh0h7e$t6vq0$1...@ID-84980.news.uni-berlin.de...

> >
> > In Europe where motorized bikes are far more common and taxed on engine
> > displacement and where most engines have less than 50 cc, any 80 cc bike
> > would have 6 speeds and easily be capable of turnpike speeds.
> > Wade
>
> Which is true of course. I just wouldn't climb on a Vespa
> scooter and try to wrassle with heavy traffic on a turnpike.
> Too much like playing Russian Roulette. Besides, even the
> fastest scooters won't do typical wacky turnpike speeds,
> plus it really isn't safe to have an angry trucker 6' off
> your tail light at 70 mph. YMMV
> HD in NY
>

I was thinking more along the line of Mopeds instead of this dirty motorized
two stroke Vespa scooters, and I have to agree with you I would never take
one of this suicide sleds on the turnpike.
Wade

Alan Balmer

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Aug 8, 2003, 2:17:04 PM8/8/03
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On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:35:08 -0700, cselliot <cs4...@cport.org> wrote:

>In article <f8h7jvccctm1c7ht2...@4ax.com>, alba...@att.net
>says...


>> >Will you send in complaints about everyone who mentions products they
>> >enjoy today..your going to be a busy little cop! What you and your fellow
>> >wantabee newsgroup monitors are doing is screwing up the whole process
>> >with this type of BS,you obviously don't have a clue what real Usenet
>> >abuse is..not a friggen clue!
>>
>> (Is this intended to be an example?)
>>
>> Written from an address which has exactly one posting to Usenet
>> recorded by Google - an advertisement for your e-bay auction.
>> >
>>
>>

> WHAT EBAY AUCTION? I've never sold anything on Ebay in my life..do you
>always make accusations that are based on pure haywire nonsense?

Check out
http://www.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_uauthors=cs4041%40cport.org&lr=&hl=en

It came from the email address you are faking. Sometimes when you make
up fake addresses, they turn out to already belong to someone else.

I won't bother to track it down, but I suppose you're just a sock
puppet for RAKS.
>
>Your Spamming "BalmerConsulting" signature must be a real lulu
>business..I bet it's based on your net-cop experience! muhahah
>
>No go away little man..I won't read your reply. :=)

I haven't plonked you yet. I won't as long as you continue to provide
amusement.

Kim17

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Aug 9, 2003, 7:19:35 PM8/9/03
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What the heck are you talking about someone asked about that someone
had put up somthing about electric scooters and you idiots take it
like i am trying to spam for raksbargains.com I could care less, just
thought i would tell them.
Also you keep reffering me as a him, well if you can read once you get
your head out of you know what that you would find that i am
female...And once again my email is not someone elses, do you forget
that when you sign up that you have to verify your email address or do
you only have time to complain when someone trys to help someone
else...I thought that what the message boards are about, not crap
talking like your doing.


Kim

GBinNC

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Aug 9, 2003, 7:32:39 PM8/9/03
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On 9 Aug 2003 16:19:35 -0700, ki...@rock.com (Kim17) wrote:

>I could care less

Kim, if you *could* care less, then please do so. (Or did you perhaps
mean to say "I *couldn't* care less"?)

>...And once again my email is not someone elses, do you forget
>that when you sign up that you have to verify your email address or do
>you only have time to complain when someone trys to help someone
>else...I thought that what the message boards are about, not crap
>talking like your doing.

ROFL. Say what?

GB in NC

Dan

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Aug 9, 2003, 7:39:04 PM8/9/03
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AMEN!

"Kim17" <ki...@rock.com> wrote in message
news:6fc14e23.03080...@posting.google.com...

Alan Balmer

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Aug 11, 2003, 12:20:02 PM8/11/03
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On 9 Aug 2003 16:19:35 -0700, ki...@rock.com (Kim17) wrote:

>What the heck are you talking about someone asked about that someone
>had put up somthing about electric scooters and you idiots take it
>like i am trying to spam for

You must be as stupid as you think we are. A 2-second google search
shows that you have made 9 postings to various newsgroups from this
address and every one of them is an advertisement for rakscheapshop.

Kim17

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Aug 12, 2003, 1:28:41 AM8/12/03
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Hey Alan.
I also noticed that you are a terrible complainer, mybe because you
think you are consulting someone...But on the other hand i noticed
that you made a few comments on this board, but if it was not for this
string you would have nothing to complain about.." you wannabe
consulting jerk" find somewhere else to complain in....No One cares.


Love
Kim
raksbargains.com/id6066.htm

Kim17

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Aug 12, 2003, 1:34:31 AM8/12/03
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Hey Alan,
I also did a search and learned that you complained in 2,510 times in
groups...
I think you should see the doctor for your problem. Oh sorry i guess
you are promoting your consulting buisness. You a@@


Love ya
Kim

Kim17

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Aug 12, 2003, 1:54:10 AM8/12/03
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If you need some help because the answer would tell us what he really
wants to achieve. "The floor () function
that comes with my compiler is awfully slow" would be a reasonable
answer. "The floor () function
always rounds down, and I need something similar that rounds negative
numbers towards zero" would be
reasonable. "I will only call this functions for values from -10000.0
to +10000.0 . Is it possible
to calculate floor (x) faster if x is guaranteed in this range? "
would be a reasonable answer. hope that helps Alan.


Love
Kim :)

HHamp5246

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Aug 12, 2003, 8:50:38 AM8/12/03
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In article <6fc14e23.03081...@posting.google.com>, ki...@rock.com
(Kim17) writes:

>.No One cares.
>
>
>Love
>Kim

Apparently you do.......... "Love Kim"


Hunter


Alan Balmer

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Aug 12, 2003, 11:24:41 AM8/12/03
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On 11 Aug 2003 22:28:41 -0700, ki...@rock.com (Kim17) wrote:

>Kim
>raksbargains.com/id6066.htm

I'm glad you finally decided to be honest about who you are, at least
after you've been caught.

Alan Balmer

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Aug 12, 2003, 11:33:24 AM8/12/03
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If you're trying to ask a question, please provide some context, and
think about what you're trying to achieve. This will help you phrase
the question better. In the meantime, use "man floor" if you're on
Unix, or consult the MSDN docs if on Windows.

If you're trying to implement "floor", or some variation of it, it's
usually not wise to optimize for specific ranges or specific
platforms. If you have a need to do that, write your function, but
give it a different name to avoid confusion with the standard library.

I can be of more help if you clarify your question.

Roadwarrior

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Aug 12, 2003, 11:46:06 AM8/12/03
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On 11 Aug 2003 22:28:41 -0700, ki...@rock.com (Kim17) wrote:

>Hey Alan.
...
>No One cares.
>
>
>Love
>Kim
>raksspam.com/id666.htm

Hey, Alan,

A lot of people care. Thanks for outing this spammer. Well done!

Keep up the good work.

--RW

Chris Bryant

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Aug 12, 2003, 11:33:49 AM8/12/03
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:24:41 -0700, Alan Balmer wrote:

> On 11 Aug 2003 22:28:41 -0700, ki...@rock.com (Kim17) wrote:
>
>>Kim
>>raksbargains.com/id6066.htm
>
> I'm glad you finally decided to be honest about who you are, at least
> after you've been caught.

ROFL- id 6066 - is that the mark of the spambeast?

Kim17

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Aug 12, 2003, 6:57:25 PM8/12/03
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Spammer!! would a spammer keep posting like this....You might not
think that alot of people enjoyed this subject so much that it is
still going "Electric scooter for your RV".

I have got 17 emails asking to repost the URL, but to a surprise, not
a one said not too.

To my fellow Spamcop Alan, I always try to hit the porn spam, that is
the true spam that you get in your email in hope your kid don't see
them...Get those guys not brag and complain about the few on the
message boards.

Spamcop rules are: If you object to a certain post, you should also
make every effort to educate the poster before you report them to
their ISP. Usenet is a place where many people learn about netiquette
for the first time. If you think the poster is doing the wrong thing
out of ignorance, please try to educate them nicely via email before
you cry spam. Don't clutter the newsgroup with these educational
messages they are against the rules. Send the poster email. If the
person continues to post spam to your group and they are unwilling to
be educated, only then should you bring the issue to the attention of
their ISP.


Thanks
Kim :)

Alan Balmer

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Aug 12, 2003, 7:26:44 PM8/12/03
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On 12 Aug 2003 15:57:25 -0700, ki...@rock.com (Kim17) wrote:

>Spammer!! would a spammer keep posting like this...

Obviously <g>. Some never learn.

>.You might not
>think that alot of people enjoyed this subject so much that it is
>still going "Electric scooter for your RV".

You might have noticed by now that the subject is spamming, not
scooters.


>
>I have got 17 emails asking to repost the URL, but to a surprise, not
>a one said not too.

I suggest you keep your 17 replies to private email. Those who object
to spamming aren't afraid to do it here, instead of sending you email.


>
>To my fellow Spamcop Alan, I always try to hit the porn spam, that is
>the true spam that you get in your email in hope your kid don't see
>them...Get those guys not brag and complain about the few on the
>message boards.

I manage to do both.


>
>Spamcop rules are: If you object to a certain post, you should also
>make every effort to educate the poster before you report them to
>their ISP.

We did that. The spammer persisted. He or she even acquired new
identities in the process.

> Usenet is a place where many people learn about netiquette
>for the first time. If you think the poster is doing the wrong thing
>out of ignorance, please try to educate them nicely via email before
>you cry spam.

Nonsense. Spam here, read here. Newsgroup participants have no
obligation to notify spammers via email. In fact, spammers often spoof
their address, or use a throw-away account which they never check.

>Don't clutter the newsgroup with these educational
>messages they are against the rules.

No they aren't. Discussions of netiquette and topicality are topical
on any newsgroup. Have you read the charter?

>Send the poster email. If the
>person continues to post spam to your group and they are unwilling to
>be educated, only then should you bring the issue to the attention of
>their ISP.
>

See above.

GBinNC

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Aug 12, 2003, 7:27:36 PM8/12/03
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On 12 Aug 2003 15:57:25 -0700, ki...@rock.com (Kim17) wrote:

>I have got 17 emails asking to repost the URL,

Oh, yeah, I'll just bet you did. We believe you. Sure we do.

>If the
>person continues to post spam to your group and they are unwilling to
>be educated,

I take it you mean persons such as yourself?

We're tired of it, Kim. Give it a rest. You're not contributing
anything to the NG and you're making yourself look foolish.

GB in NC

Tom Marik

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Aug 12, 2003, 10:41:30 PM8/12/03
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<< We're tired of it, Kim. Give it a rest. You're not contributing anything to
the NG and you're making yourself look foolish. >>

Yes we hate spam. But what I hate most is spam for the POS they are trying to
sell.

Did I use "POS" correctly?

Tom M


GBinNC

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Aug 12, 2003, 11:11:00 PM8/12/03
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On 13 Aug 2003 02:41:30 GMT, tmari...@aol.comnojunk (Tom Marik)
wrote:

LOL.

Yes. The "P" can mean either "piece" or "pieces."

GB in NC

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