Calendar Working with 1.4 builds
Mike Potter
There's a new Windows version of calendar that should fix the
problems that people had with Mozilla's latest builds (1.4 trunk builds).
You can find it at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
There are also new Linux builds for GCC 2 and GCC 3 which contain a
fix for the small side calendar. Thanks to Eric for that fix.
If you have questions / comments / problems, please post in this
newsgroup. I will not respond to personal emails about the calendar not
working for you.
Note, this still won't solve the problem of calendar not working for
those with the German lang pack installed.
Mike
Peter Lairo
You might want to update the table under "Get Mozilla Calendar" on the
Calendar web page to include 1.4. ;)
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Peter Lairo
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Peter Lairo
> There's a new Windows version of calendar that should fix the problems
> that people had with Mozilla's latest builds (1.4 trunk builds).
> You can find it at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
Yes, calendar now works with 1.4a nightlies. Yeah! :-D
> If you have questions / comments / problems, please post in this
> newsgroup.
Unfortunately, Calendar is still mostly unusable for me. Here's why:
1. Alarms that I "acknowledge" come back the next time calendar is
launched. It's a haunting annoyance. ;)
2. Tasks don't have alarms!
(http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155882)
3. Sidebar (with Tasks) doesn't remember position. This is annoying
because tasks are important to me and the date collumn always gets
scrunched up.
4. Publishing (to FTP server) is not clear whether it works or not (no
feedback). Also, a preference to auto-publish after each change (or
every x-minutes, or on calendar exit) would be useful.
Also, the MutilWeek view, although a great idea, is still somewhat
lacking usefullness, because:
1. The horizontal space for each day is not significantly larger than
that of the month view (it's actually more narrow). The week numbers and
scroll arrows (which need tooltips) are too wide.
2. The minimum number of weeks is too large (four weeks). It should be
two. It works from the View menu, but not from the preferences.
3. The (minor amount of) gained vertical space in each day is not as
important as the need for (much) more horizontal space in each day. Once
the View | Monday-Friday Only" works for all views, there will again be
no difference between month and multiweek views (perhaps this is
inevitable).
*Disclaimer* I know I have no "right" to these features and if I really
want them, I need to fix them myself of pay someone. All of you are
doing a fine job and I am very thankful to be able to be a (small) part
of it all.
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Peter Lairo
Eric Belhaire
> On 3/24/03 4:07 PM, Mike Potter wrote:
>
>
> Also, the MutilWeek view, although a great idea, is still somewhat
> lacking usefullness, because:
>
> 1. The horizontal space for each day is not significantly larger than
> that of the month view (it's actually more narrow). The week numbers and
> scroll arrows (which need tooltips) are too wide.
>
> 2. The minimum number of weeks is too large (four weeks). It should be
> two. It works from the View menu, but not from the preferences.
To change the change the number of weeks during a session use the menu.
After using this for some weeks, I think that I must change this.
>
> 3. The (minor amount of) gained vertical space in each day is not as
> important as the need for (much) more horizontal space in each day. Once
> the View | Monday-Friday Only" works for all views, there will again be
> no difference between month and multiweek views (perhaps this is
> inevitable).
And again it is not mandatory to use it if you don't to change you habits.
Eric
Eric Belhaire
> On 3/24/03 4:07 PM, Mike Potter wrote:
>
>> Hi all:
>> There's a new Windows version of calendar that should fix the
>> problems that people had with Mozilla's latest builds (1.4 trunk builds).
>> You can find it at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
>
>
> Yes, calendar now works with 1.4a nightlies. Yeah! :-D
>
>> If you have questions / comments / problems, please post in this
>> newsgroup.
>
>
> Unfortunately, Calendar is still mostly unusable for me. Here's why:
>
> 1. Alarms that I "acknowledge" come back the next time calendar is
> launched. It's a haunting annoyance. ;)
>
I don't observe this (with Mozilla 1.3). This problem could come from a
corrupted ICS file.
Peter Lairo
> Peter Lairo wrote:
>> On 3/24/03 4:07 PM, Mike Potter wrote:
>>
>> Also, the MutilWeek view, although a great idea, is still somewhat
>> lacking usefullness, because:
>>
>> 1. The horizontal space for each day is not significantly larger than
>> that of the month view (it's actually more narrow). The week numbers
>> and scroll arrows (which need tooltips) are too wide.
>
> It is CSS defined so you can easily change this.
It seems you may have gotten defensive here. Please don't. I cannot and
have no interest in editing files after each installation of Calendar. I
am merely pointing out what *I* perceive to be deficiencies (like a
mini-bug report). If you don't think these are deficiencies then I
accept that decision.
>> 2. The minimum number of weeks is too large (four weeks). It should be
>> two. It works from the View menu, but not from the preferences.
>
> It is two. But, the preference is the preference when you launch of the
> program.
Yes, and it should be possible to set that to two weeks. ;)
> To change the change the number of weeks during a session use the menu.
I knew that.
> After using this for some weeks, I think that I must change this.
What do you mean by "this"?
>> 3. The (minor amount of) gained vertical space in each day is not as
>> important as the need for (much) more horizontal space in each day.
>> Once the View | Monday-Friday Only" works for all views, there will
>> again be no difference between month and multiweek views (perhaps this
>> is inevitable).
>
> For me the main interest (and motivation) for this week is the rolling
> horizon.
Yes, you are right, the rolling horizon is ~70% of the benefit. The
ability to show more info by reducing the number of weeks is another
20%. I was hoping that there was some clever (magic?) way to restructure
this view to achieve more horizontal space for each day's notes. :-\
> And again it is not mandatory to use it if you don't [want] to change you habits.
I know. I'm merely trying to make suggestions so that I would become
useful to me. But your point about the rolling horizon is a good one.
Now if the Calendar were just usable _enough_ for me to use on a daily
basis, I could test the usefulness of the rolling horizon... :-P
As always, you are all doing an excellent job. I tend to be very direct
in my (hopefully constructive) criticism. I hope you take it the way it
was intended, namely merely to convey my viewpoint on the status of
Calendar.
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Peter Lairo
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Eric Belhaire
Peter Lairo a écrit:
> On 3/26/03 5:54 PM, Eric Belhaire wrote:
>
>> Peter Lairo wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/24/03 4:07 PM, Mike Potter wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, the MutilWeek view, although a great idea, is still somewhat
>>> lacking usefullness, because:
>>>
>>> 1. The horizontal space for each day is not significantly larger than
>>> that of the month view (it's actually more narrow). The week numbers
>>> and scroll arrows (which need tooltips) are too wide.
>>
>>
>> It is CSS defined so you can easily change this.
>
>
> It seems you may have gotten defensive here. Please don't. I cannot and
> have no interest in editing files after each installation of Calendar. I
> am merely pointing out what *I* perceive to be deficiencies (like a
> mini-bug report). If you don't think these are deficiencies then I
> accept that decision.
I think that you could include the definition of CSS in the files
userChrome.css or userContent.css in the chrome directory in your
profile. So it could be possible to overimpose definition without
editing the files after each intallation of Calendar.
I already tried for some definition and it works.
>
>>> 2. The minimum number of weeks is too large (four weeks). It should
>>> be two. It works from the View menu, but not from the preferences.
>>
>>
>> It is two. But, the preference is the preference when you launch of
>> the program.
>
>
> Yes, and it should be possible to set that to two weeks. ;)
It is for me on Mozilla 1.3.
>
>> To change the change the number of weeks during a session use the menu.
>
>
> I knew that.
>
>> After using this for some weeks, I think that I must change this.
>
>
> What do you mean by "this"?
To modified this concept of initial definition in the pref and
no permanent definition in the menu.
>
>>> 3. The (minor amount of) gained vertical space in each day is not as
>>> important as the need for (much) more horizontal space in each day.
>>> Once the View | Monday-Friday Only" works for all views, there will
>>> again be no difference between month and multiweek views (perhaps
>>> this is inevitable).
>>
>>
>> For me the main interest (and motivation) for this week is the rolling
>> horizon.
>
>
> Yes, you are right, the rolling horizon is ~70% of the benefit. The
> ability to show more info by reducing the number of weeks is another
> 20%. I was hoping that there was some clever (magic?) way to restructure
> this view to achieve more horizontal space for each day's notes. :-\
>
>> And again it is not mandatory to use it if you don't [want] to change
>> you[r] habits.
>
>
> I know. I'm merely trying to make suggestions so that I would become
> useful to me. But your point about the rolling horizon is a good one.
> Now if the Calendar were just usable _enough_ for me to use on a daily
> basis, I could test the usefulness of the rolling horizon... :-P
I use it every day and it quite suite my needs. What I could lack is the
Palm synchro (in the near future for me).
Eric
Jussi Sirpoma
>> 1. Alarms that I "acknowledge" come back the next time calendar is
>> launched. It's a haunting annoyance. ;)
>>
>
> I don't observe this (with Mozilla 1.3). This problem could come from a
> corrupted ICS file.
I have this or a similar problem with a remote calendar. I have the
autocopy option enabled but the acknowledgement is not published. So if
I do not remember to manually publish the calendar, the acknowledgement
is overwritten on next calendar upload.
Regards,
Jussi Sirpoma