Please vote in my online poll about p2p
anthonyberet
whether filsharing decreases or increases published-music sales (of course
the RIAA wont do this research, as it could only harm their "100% badness"
stance). I have added the url to my sig.
Feel free to link to it, as the more that vote, the better, of course. I
think a few hundred votes are really needed for the thing to carry any
weight. (Please only vote once though).
The poll is very simple, and I would love to do a decent online survey (and
without banner ads), but
for now, this will have to do.
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Do you use filesharing networks? If so, please visit my online poll:
http://vote.sparklit.com/web_poll.spark/780772
anthonyberet
Kraftee
> Hi, I have set up a quick online poll, to try and get some real
> data about whether filsharing decreases or increases
> published-music sales (of course the RIAA wont do this research, as
> it could only harm their "100% badness" stance). I have added the
> url to my sig.
> Feel free to link to it, as the more that vote, the better, of
> course. I think a few hundred votes are really needed for the thing
> to carry any weight. (Please only vote once though).
> The poll is very simple, and I would love to do a decent online
> survey (and without banner ads), but
> for now, this will have to do.
So good & simple that it doesn't really exist, or did you really mean
to leave the URL out..
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"Kraftee" <kra...@bogoffspammer.ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:NNT8b.1192$Nb6...@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net...
No, I'm sure he didn't mean to do that, which is why it was there!!
http://vote.sparklit.com/web_poll.spark/780772
and there it is again!!
Archeon
Yddap
Try the following
Do you use filesharing networks? If so, please visit my online poll:
http://vote.sparklit.com/web_poll.spark/780772
anthonyberet
Cut /paste job from original post
Yddap
BxP9
this data to our legal department.
Thank you and have a nice weekend.
roddelaar
"BxP9" <NOMAIL> schreef in bericht
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> Please supply your name and address so we here at the RIAA may pass along
> this data to our legal department.
> Thank you and have a nice weekend.
Hahaha, yeah right, that is what I was thinking, why the
h*ll does this person think I will give my info when I just
admitted that I do fileshare, which isn`t proof by the way,
for I might be sharing my own music ;o)
Kraftee
Damm & blast I was going to make that my next point (dunno how I
missed URL for the poll though)...
Before any one says you don't have to fill any fields in, on the poll,
it is quite simple for the page to be written so it will log the IP of
the person & the answer given...
Dave D
>
> Before any one says you don't have to fill any fields in, on the poll,
> it is quite simple for the page to be written so it will log the IP of
> the person & the answer given...
>
I don't think anthonyberet is an RIAA stooge, he's been a regular
contributor for some time now. In any case, I'm not sure what your point is.
If you think the IP addresses could be used (legally) to track P2P users I
doubt this is the case. I don't think it's any more risky than posting here,
or indeed actually *using* P2P! Furthermore, contributing to a poll is not
an implication of guilt.
Dave
anthonyberet
<snip>
> Before any one says you don't have to fill any fields in, on the poll,
> it is quite simple for the page to be written so it will log the IP of
> the person & the answer given...
So what? -It doesn't ask for any admission of copyright-breaking.
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>
> "Kraftee" <kra...@bogoffspammer.ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> > Before any one says you don't have to fill any fields in, on the poll,
> > it is quite simple for the page to be written so it will log the IP of
> > the person & the answer given...
>
> I don't think anthonyberet is an RIAA stooge, he's been a regular
> contributor for some time now. In any case, I'm not sure what your point
is.
> If you think the IP addresses could be used (legally) to track P2P users
I
> doubt this is the case. I don't think it's any more risky than posting
here,
> or indeed actually *using* P2P! Furthermore, contributing to a poll is
not
> an implication of guilt.
Agreed. A fine reply.
Reverend Lovejoy
news:bk0pkg$obqi7$1...@ID-125339.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Hi, I have set up a quick online poll, to try and get some real data about
> whether filsharing decreases or increases published-music sales (of course
> the RIAA wont do this research, as it could only harm their "100% badness"
> stance). I have added the url to my sig.
> Feel free to link to it, as the more that vote, the better, of course. I
> think a few hundred votes are really needed for the thing to carry any
> weight. (Please only vote once though).
> The poll is very simple, and I would love to do a decent online survey
(and
> without banner ads), but
> for now, this will have to do.
Nice effort, but there's no way you're going to get a representative sample
by collecting data like this. The scientific methodology is too wrong for it
to be at all accurate.
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DTJ
<witf...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>Hi, I have set up a quick online poll, to try and get some real data about
>whether filsharing decreases or increases published-music sales (of course
>the RIAA wont do this research, as it could only harm their "100% badness"
>stance). I have added the url to my sig.
>Feel free to link to it, as the more that vote, the better, of course. I
>think a few hundred votes are really needed for the thing to carry any
>weight. (Please only vote once though).
>The poll is very simple, and I would love to do a decent online survey (and
>without banner ads), but
>for now, this will have to do.
>--?
>Put "usenet" in the subject-line if you want to mail me, otherwise it will
>bounce.
>Do you use filesharing networks? If so, please visit my online poll:
>http://vote.sparklit.com/web_poll.spark/780772
>anthonyberet
Yo mr riaa employee, the research was done and you just won't listen
to it.
I am going to laugh my ass off in 5 years when the riaa no longer
exists.
anthonyberet
> "anthonyberet" <witf...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> news:bk0pkg$obqi7$1...@ID-125339.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> Hi, I have set up a quick online poll, to try and get some real data
>> about whether filsharing decreases or increases published-music
>> sales (of course the RIAA wont do this research, as it could only
>> harm their "100% badness" stance). I have added the url to my sig.
>> Feel free to link to it, as the more that vote, the better, of
>> course. I think a few hundred votes are really needed for the thing
>> to carry any weight. (Please only vote once though).
>> The poll is very simple, and I would love to do a decent online
>> survey (and without banner ads), but
>> for now, this will have to do.
>
>
> Nice effort, but there's no way you're going to get a representative
> sample by collecting data like this. The scientific methodology is
> too wrong for it to be at all accurate.
I too have some concerns about the methodology.
Ideally, I would have an online survey which asked how many cd's per year
were bought by the user before using p2p and how many have been bought per
year during p2p use. Then it would be possible to calculate actual numbers
of sales affected. I think a big sample is needed for it to be worth
anything, and also online polls do have some problems with bot abuse and so
on.
I haven't found 3rd-party survey provider who doesn't charge, and if I put
my own site up, there would be some substance to this sillyness elsewhere in
the thread about the IP's being logged etc.
On the bright side, the usual reason that online polls are not
representative is that they only sample the views of internet users. -At
least that isn't a problem with a survey about p2p!
Reverend Lovejoy
There's still a sampling error with the way you're doing it. You're not
going to get a representative sample of the population by asking people on
an mp3 group to take your survey, the people here are going to necessarily
be biased, and not representative of p2p filesharers.
The best way to do it, I think, would be to go to a college campus or high
school (though you'd need to do this at several campuses to minimize any
demographic misrepresentations at schools), and hand out surveys that
determines the amount of downloading and correlate that to the amount of CD
buying.
And of course, you still need to account for other factors. Are they buying
less because they download, or because they or their parents are currently
out of a job, or because they're currently boycotting/angry at the industry?
Do they not buy it because they got it for free, or because after hearing it
they decided it wasn't worth the money? If they couldn't download it, would
they have gotten it?
And what I described isn't all that rigorous :) The scientific method can be
a bitch, especially when doing psychology research.
anthonyberet
I agree with all of that, but it is still better than the RIAA's methodolgy,
which is to state that sales are down, and that as this coincides in history
with p2p there must be a causal link. The unfortunate thing is, a lot of
politicians seem to accept it.
Oddly though, in the UK album sales have gone up, its just profits that have
gone down...