Sisyphus calls for vote
sisy...@pacbell.net
There seems to be some doubt in Brad's mind as to who contributes
more to the purpose of this NG, Brad or Dr. Packer.
I vote for Dr. Packer.
She makes me think.
Brad makes me wince.
Norm
P.S. No one "makes" me do anything.
I am just putting in lay terms that a parapro can understand
Cognitee
Dear Norm,
Do you propose that this would be a sceintific or even a fair vote.
(Still, I might win: for I AM FOR THE PEOPLE !!) -- b j
Leslie E. Packer, PhD
<clutching head and groaning>
Oh Norm, _now_ you've done it. Mr. Jesness will have to log on under all
50+ of his aliases to stack the voting...
Thanks, guy! <g>
(And a serious thank you for the compliment about "making" you think...
that is what the purpose of this newsgroup is supposed to be, I assume...
to challenge each other to think about issues and to share and learn from
each other's perspectives).
Leslie
On Aug 02, 1996 20:56:06 in article <Sisyphus calls for vote>,
Cognitee
Dear Leslie,
I have been told by some you learn NOTHING from others. You seem to
have no potential. In my experience you just show the ability to
exercize inappropriate power (aggress) against what you don't like,
often with arguments unbecoming any thinking person (often status or
"authority" based). It is a crying shame you are here at all.
Leslie E. Packer, PhD
On Aug 03, 1996 21:54:14 in article <Re: Sisyphus calls for vote>,
'Cognitee <Cogn...@aol.com>' wrote:
>Do you propose that this would be a sceintific or even a fair vote.
>(Still, I might win: for I AM FOR THE PEOPLE !!) -- b j
d
Packer. hands down.
Deborah
Cognitee
Dear Leslie,
I read you no more. I feel you are literally trying to goad me into
trouble, so you can cut of my right to free speech. This is the tactic
the "heavy" for the therapists has chosen. This rather than keeping on
and addressing the issues I've raised (by the way YOU still could do
that when I am gone). MANY CAN SEE IT.
On a speculative note: A person in an artificial role (a caricature
of another, rather than her own person) is often a heavy (hated, but
heavy while she reigns). It is a sick identity problem as well as the
dependency you've shown. You are so sick in my mind I am writing not
for to you or for you but others to help them see. I believe you to be
so mentally crippled as to be unsuitable fo any clinical job. I believe
you should be examined closely and a dismissal considered strongly IF
THIS TURNS OUT CORRECT.
Many shall see it. A goading, inappropriate even for a chat group is
the tactic of a Ph.D. level "some kind" of therapist (who engenders some
significant support from other therapists here). This is a tremendously
sick field and I hope to not have to try to intervene with it HERE
again. -- b jesness
D is Dumb
-
Terance Cantrell
sisy...@pacbell.net wrote:
>There seems to be some doubt in Brad's mind as to who contributes
>more to the purpose of this NG, Brad or Dr. Packer.
>I vote for Dr. Packer.
>She makes me think.
>Brad makes me wince.
>Norm
>P.S. No one "makes" me do anything.
>I am just putting in lay terms that a parapro can understand
I vote that Packer & Jesness take their petty tiff to email, and that
you go with them. Lay terms, indeed!
TC
Cognitee
Dear TC,
A very civilized suggestion, considering the whole "argument" now is
purely personal. I have been willing to accept e-mail and am willing to
accept it once more, if she does. (I will not just receive though.)
Leslie Packer has not had a single dialog with me via e-mail that I
recall. Certainly not one in the last couple weeks. She is too
disturbed to consider the civil route. I hope someone there can help
her, though I would doubt it. She will be somewhat yet more disturbed
to find that she has lost much credibility lately and may well be viewed
as disturbed by many accross the globe. Maybe even her boss (if she has
one). (For all we know see may be in a mental institution at the present
time -- she has a lot of time on her hands.) Do you best with this poor
creature. -- b jesness
Larry C. Lyons
In article <3202CD...@pacbell.net> , sisy...@pacbell.net writes:
>There seems to be some doubt in Brad's mind as to who contributes
>more to the purpose of this NG, Brad or Dr. Packer.
In terms of volume (using both meanings of the word) -- multiBrad.
However if you refer to quality of content, and clarity of the
discussion, it is painfully obvious, Dr. Packer.
Larry Lyons | email: sol...@mnsinc.com
My opinions alone, no one else will take responsibility for them!
========================================================
Life is Complex. It has both real and imaginary parts.
========================================================
Paul Bernhardt
I vote for Packer as well!!!
+=============================================================+
Paul C. Bernhardt, M.S. in Social Psychology (non-clinical)
+=============================================================+
Cognitee
Dear All,
Might I point out that this is not a real vote, binding anything.
Might I also add that it is a waste of this newsgroup and yet another
disgrace to your field.
Peter
In article <4u0ugp$s...@stratus.skypoint.net>, Cognitee
<Cogn...@aol.com> writes
>It is a sick identity problem
..._that_ Multi-B??? has itself shown:
"anon." <an60...@anon.penet.fi>
"Ask about B.R.A.D." <br...@future.net>
"From B.R.A.D." <br...@future.net>
"One of B.R.A.D." <br...@future.net>
"PleaseHelpDefendDan,HeWillNeedHelp" <br...@future.net>
"SameThingasAbove,BetterCopy" <br...@future.net>
Addendum <br...@future.net>
AllCanSee <br...@future.net>
Allen Ivey <br...@future.net>
an589948 <an58...@anon.penet.fi>
anon <an57...@anon.penet.fi>
an57...@anon.penet.fi (Whoever)
AnotherCaseOfRawABUSE <Cogn...@aol.com>
B J <br...@future.net>
B Jesness <br...@future.net>
B Jesness <spa...@servco.com>
B Jesness <spa...@imt.net>
b1r2...@aol.com.
BRADvocate <je...@future.net>
BULLYING <an57...@anon.penet.fi>
ClaimingWhatYouDon'tKnowIsALie <br...@future.net>
Cognito2 <Cogn...@aol.com>
CompanyConsideringThisSolution <br...@future.net>
cris...@aol.com (Crisis gal)
D Assmunn <D_As...@aol.com>
e1c...@aol.com (E1CD2P3)
Grohol'sDirectThreat <Cogn...@aol.com>
GrowWhole <je...@future.net>
HighestLevelOfAbuseYET <Cogn...@aol.com>
IKnowUDont, iknow...@aol.com
inco...@aol.com (Incognee)
Jess <je...@future.net>
ksni...@aol.com
Livimone <livi...@aol.com>
MightIAdd <br...@future.net>
MovedMessagefromAnother <br...@future.net>
NoteToKillfileUsers <you.?@know.it>
Please let me know what Grohol says <spa...@imt.net>
PostAboveHasBeenAlterredbyAnother <br...@future.net>
psyc...@aol.com (Psycheth)
psyc...@imt.net
QuotingIvey <br...@future.net>
SCREWU <D@Assmunn.?.com>
TheOriginalPost <br...@future.net>
ThreadBelowForThoseWhoCannotBeAppropriate <br...@future.net>
TooHottoHandle? <je...@future.net>
Unknwname <unkn...@aol.com>
VoiceofAuthority <br...@future.net>
VoteNOtoGrohol <Cogn...@aol.com>
W/RtoInfoWanted <br...@future.net>
YehRightDave <br...@future.net>
You'dLiketoKnow <n...@way.jose>
Zarathustra Sub Total =54 and counting...
...and I have a lot of posts to retransmit. Anyone for the 'Hasta la
Vista' Waltz? Partners, please?
--
Peter
<who's got another bank account:
bank with ???????'s - they're giving money away.>
Peter
In article <4u0p91$5...@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>,
lpa...@nyc.pipeline.com writes
>On Aug 03, 1996 21:54:14 in article <Re: Sisyphus calls for vote>,
>'Cognitee <Cogn...@aol.com>' wrote:
>
>
>>Do you propose that this would be a sceintific or even a fair vote.
>>(Still, I might win: for I AM FOR THE PEOPLE !!) -- b j
Then perhaps he should go and speak to the people, rather than with
those whom he feels let the people down? Why preach to the converted?
>Don't you mean you are FORTY PEOPLE?
Naaah. Last time I counted there were in excess of 50 multi-B???'s!
Peter
In article <3202CD...@pacbell.net>, sisy...@pacbell.net writes
>There seems to be some doubt in Brad's mind as to who contributes
>more to the purpose of this NG, Brad or Dr. Packer.
>
I vote for Dr. Packer.
>She makes me think.
She makes me think.
>Brad makes me wince.
Errrm. Wince? Hummmm. I keep a bucket by my desk. Jussssst in case! <G>
>P.S. No one "makes" me do anything.
>I am just putting in lay terms that a parapro can understand
Parasimply, eh?
Leslie E. Packer, PhD
On Aug 04, 1996 01:32:04 in article <Re: Sisyphus calls for vote>,
'zap...@akamail.com (Terance Cantrell)' wrote:
>
>I vote that Packer & Jesness take their petty tiff to email, and that
>you go with them. Lay terms, indeed!
Sorry you're getting bothered by the problems here. Unfortunately, e-mail
is not really an option for a variety of reasons.
Leslie
Cognitee
Leslie,
The only reason is your lack of civility about dealing with private
concerns related to your ignorance in a one-to-one way. You can't even
fight a fair fight without making excessive and largely groundless
compliants with my providers. I think you may be prejudiced against me.
Are you prone to prejudice?
It is true, though, I may well have ignored such petty e-mail. --bj
Peter
In article <4u2u66$j...@stratus.skypoint.net>, Cognitee
<Cogn...@aol.com> writes
If there were a real vote, then you'd be out on your own. IMHO you are
a shit stirring charlatan. In English law I'm allowed to have my own
humble opinion. OK, shit stirrer?
d
You mentioned 54 and counting? Well, here's another, used
just recently:
"D is Dumb <cognito>
You don't think he is referring to me, do you?
ROTFL- Deborah
Peter <Pe...@brentano.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <4u0ugp$s...@stratus.skypoint.net>, Cognitee
><Cogn...@aol.com> writes
>>It is a sick identity problem
>
>..._that_ Multi-B??? has itself shown:
>
>"anon." <an60...@anon.penet.fi>
>"Ask about B.R.A.D." <br...@future.net>
>"From B.R.A.D." <br...@future.net>Sub Total =54 and counting...
>
had to snip from the list due to newsreader requirements.
Sorry about it too.
>...and I have a lot of posts to retransmit. Anyone for the 'Hasta la
>Vista' Waltz? Partners, please?
Sisyphus
Naaa. D is for Dumb psychoanalytic crap.
Norm
On Aug 05, 1996 04:44:55 in article <Re: B??? FAQ please; was Sisyphus
SRoweCanoe
In article <4u0pqm$r...@stratus.skypoint.net>, Cognitee <Cogn...@aol.com>
writes:
> It is a crying shame you are here at all.
>
Yes, I guess for Brad J. it is. Dr.Packer does seem to have good skills
in the art of dishing it back. (Although she is occasionaly slipping to a
Bradness herself once in a while.) Apparently this works.
<shaking of head>. Doctor where have you been for the past year?
Steven Rowe
Leslie E. Packer, PhD
On Aug 05, 1996 07:01:43 in article <Re: Sisyphus calls for vote>,
'srowe...@aol.com (SRoweCanoe)' wrote:
>
>Yes, I guess for Brad J. it is. Dr.Packer does seem to have good skills
>in the art of dishing it back. (Although she is occasionaly slipping to a
>Bradness herself once in a while.)
Oops. Then I've let my temper get the better of me. I apologize for that.
>>Apparently this works.
><shaking of head>. Doctor where have you been for the past year?
--
I was here last year.... and left because of Brad. This time I decided
that this nonsense had gone on long enough. So despite requests that I not
respond to him (which I do understand), I won't just ignore certain things
since ignoring him has not worked in the past.
Indeed, Brad himself last night posted the strategy that all can use with
him if he gets obnoxious or personally insulting. And the response should
simply be: <laughing>.
Leslie E. Packer, PhD
On Aug 05, 1996 05:50:03 in article <Re: B??? FAQ please; was Sisyphus
calls for vote>, 'nor...@usa.pipeline.com(Sisyphus)' wrote:
>Naaa. D is for Dumb psychoanalytic crap.
But did I? Noooooooooooooooo....
So you did.
Much more gratifying <g>.
Cognitee
Dear Leslie,
In my neighborhood and culture <laughing> like you do it would get
you punched. That is why I find you insensitive and prejudiced. -- b
jesness (I'm receiving mail at: BrRec...@aol.com)
James K. Cotten
Cognitee (see...@of.post) wrote:
: Dear Leslie,
: In my neighborhood and culture <laughing> like you do it would get
: you punched. That is why I find you insensitive and prejudiced. -- b
: jesness (I'm receiving mail at: BrRec...@aol.com)
Brad,
In my culture, and especially in my neighborhood (Rogers Park in
Chicago), carrying on in the personally assaultive
manner which you do would result in more than you simply
getting punched. Why should other people show you any
sensitivity whatsoever when you plow through people's
feelings like a angry bull? This is yet another
example of that ugly hypocracy habit you have. I like
Leslie's <laughing>. . . in fact, I <laugh> right along
with her.
kelly
Ember Beck
Thanks!
Ember>
>
>
>
John M Price
Leslie E. Packer, PhD (lpa...@nyc.pipeline.com) wrote:
: On Aug 05, 1996 05:50:03 in article <Re: B??? FAQ please; was Sisyphus
: calls for vote>, 'nor...@usa.pipeline.com(Sisyphus)' wrote:
:
:
: >Naaa. D is for Dumb psychoanalytic crap.
:
: <shaking head> Do you have any idea how tempted I had been to say that?
: But did I? Noooooooooooooooo....
Where is Gilsig when you need him. I sense a stolen line....
:
: So you did.
:
: Much more gratifying <g>.
:
:
--
John M. Price, PhD jmp...@calweb.com jmp...@worldnet.att.net
Privacy IS Freedom!
PGP Key on request or by finger!
James K. Cotten
Leslie E. Packer, PhD (lpa...@nyc.pipeline.com) wrote:
: On Aug 05, 1996 05:50:03 in article <Re: B??? FAQ please; was Sisyphus
: calls for vote>, 'nor...@usa.pipeline.com(Sisyphus)' wrote:
:
:
: >Naaa. D is for Dumb psychoanalytic crap.
:
: <shaking head> Do you have any idea how tempted I had been to say that?
: But did I? Noooooooooooooooo....
: So you did.
:
: Much more gratifying <g>.
:
Norm, Leslie, you are placing our friendship in serious
jeopardy. Everybody sing:
Kohut loves me, this I know
My supervisor told me so. . . .
kelly
Leslie E. Packer, PhD
On Aug 08, 1996 16:33:18 in article <Re: B??? FAQ please; was Sisyphus
calls for vote>, 'jco...@orion.it.luc.edu (James K. Cotten)' wrote:
>
> Norm, Leslie, you are placing our friendship in serious
> jeopardy. Everybody sing:
>
> Kohut loves me, this I know
> My supervisor told me so. . . .
aliases? <g,d,&r>
Leslie E. Packer, PhD
On Aug 08, 1996 04:04:53 in article <Re: B??? FAQ please; was Sisyphus
calls for vote>, 'szjp...@chip.ucdavis.edu (John M Price)' wrote:
>
>Where is Gilsig when you need him. I sense a stolen line....
>