2004-01-26 - Summary of mozilla.org staff meeting
Gervase Markham
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Present: bart, gerv, chofmann, brendan, dbaron, ben, marcia, mscott.
*1.7 alpha update*
- 1.7a blockers:
- Ben Bucksch's roaming stuff (from Beonex)
- Protection mechanisms against profile corruption
- Fix for very rare profile corruption bug
*Mozilla Firebird 0.8 update*
- Ready to ship
*GRE*
- Back on track with separate GRE build
- Seawood's back (wahey!)
- Currently this redirects to dmoz.org for historical reasons
- We may need this name in the future (LDAP server)
- Check how many hits
- All top ten links on Google are 1998
- Break it and see what happens?
- Use an interstitial with a warning page
*Moving Firebird Help to mozilla.org?*
- request by alanjstr because he claims texturizer.net keeps going down
- charge is not proven
- mscott to chat to djst
*Developer Day*
- Not very much response yet, but we need to be more specific.
- $10 registration fee a week before, $100 reg fee on the day, to
encourage people to tell us ;-)
- Will be taped for putting on the web
Gerv
us...@domain.invalid
> - Use an interstitial with a warning page
I hate those warning pages. Just break the damn thing and be done with it.
>
> *Moving Firebird Help to mozilla.org?*
>
> - request by alanjstr because he claims texturizer.net keeps going down
> - charge is not proven
> - mscott to chat to djst
clarifying Firebird Help browser and the DJST help content?
>
> *Developer Day*
>
> - Not very much response yet, but we need to be more specific.
> - $10 registration fee a week before, $100 reg fee on the day, to
> encourage people to tell us ;-)
> - Will be taped for putting on the web
What format? The conferences for which I see video on the Mozilla site
are in Real Player format which, from what I know, isn't an open format
nor is it very cross-platform.
Neil Marshall
>
> What format? The conferences for which I see video on the Mozilla
> site are in Real Player format which, from what I know, isn't an open
> format nor is it very cross-platform.
Are you sure about that?
https://www.helixcommunity.org/
Gervase Markham
> What format? The conferences for which I see video on the Mozilla site
> are in Real Player format which, from what I know, isn't an open format
> nor is it very cross-platform.
I understood that it would be audio with HTML slides rather than video.
But I could be wrong.
Real Player is the most cross-platform video format I know of, anyway.
There's players easily available for Windows, Mac and Linux. Of what
other format is that true?
Gerv
David Tenser
> *Moving Firebird Help to mozilla.org?*
>
> - request by alanjstr because he claims texturizer.net keeps going down
The server doesn't go down often. There are some problems with the
communication with mozdev.org though, since that server seems to be
timing out often.
> - charge is not proven
What does that mean?
> - mscott to chat to djst
I guess I'll wait for him to do so then. :)
/ David
Gervase Markham
> On 2004-01-29 00:30 Gervase Markham wrote:
>> - request by alanjstr because he claims texturizer.net keeps going down
>
> The server doesn't go down often. There are some problems with the
> communication with mozdev.org though, since that server seems to be
> timing out often.
>
>> - charge is not proven
>
> What does that mean?
It means that alanjstr has asserted that your server keeps going down,
but we've seen no proof of this :-)
>> - mscott to chat to djst
>
> I guess I'll wait for him to do so then. :)
Sure :-)
Gerv
Michael Lefevre
> On 2004-01-29 00:30 Gervase Markham wrote:
>
>> *Moving Firebird Help to mozilla.org?*
>>
>> - request by alanjstr because he claims texturizer.net keeps going down
>
> The server doesn't go down often. There are some problems with the
> communication with mozdev.org though, since that server seems to be
> timing out often.
>
>> - charge is not proven
>
> What does that mean?
It means they had no evidence to prove that texturizer.net has been going
down often. I can only recall one significant outage, and mozilla.org
isn't immune from problems itself. The extensions and themes stuff has
certainly had problems, but that seems to be mozdev, and wouldn't be
helped by moving your content onto mozilla.org.
>> - mscott to chat to djst
>
> I guess I'll wait for him to do so then. :)
That's probably the best thing :)
I've always thought it would make sense to have your content on
mozilla.org instead of some other domain. If that can be achieved without
impairing the site or your ability to do things with it too much, then
I think that would be good.
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Michael
t...@cs.brown.edu
> Real Player is the most cross-platform video format I know of,
> anyway. There's players easily available for Windows, Mac and
> Linux. Of what other format is that true?
MPEG
-tor
Christopher Blizzard
Go ahead. Ask them for the source code for the real codecs. I dare you.
--Chris
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Christopher Blizzard
http://www.mozilla.org
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Christopher Blizzard
Go ahead. Ask them for the source code for the real codecs. I dare you.
Gervase Markham
> Go ahead. Ask them for the source code for the real codecs. I dare you.
There was a discussion between free software people and Real engineers
about that on LWN only this week.
http://lwn.net/Articles/68143/
(subscription may be required, but go on, they deserve it.)
There is a debate within Real as to whether this would be good or not;
but it's academic, becaue the Real codecs have other companies' code in
them, and Real don't have permission to open source it.
Gerv
Ben Bucksch
> What format? The conferences for which I see video on the Mozilla
> site are in Real Player format which, from what I know, isn't an open
> format nor is it very cross-platform.
The sad truth is that the subject is infected all over with patents,
which make it hard in many countries to even invent open-source
codecs/specs.
<http://www.theora.org> is one of the few, but doesn't have wide
distribution.
MPEG is patented. Real is patented, too. But they are available on all
major platforms.
Ben Bucksch
> - 1.7a blockers:
> - Ben Bucksch's roaming stuff (from Beonex)
Great, finally! :) Thanks.
Ben
Brodie Thiesfield
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> - 1.7a blockers:
> - Ben Bucksch's roaming stuff (from Beonex)
> - Protection mechanisms against profile corruption
> - Fix for very rare profile corruption bug
I realize this is a "what about my bug" message. I find this bug
somewhat disturbing however, given that email can be quite easily lost
(for people in the habit of saving drafts).
Was the bug 98576 "Save as Draft doesn't save the msg"
(http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98576) considered for a
1.7a blocker?
Regards,
Brodie