Mike Varney's criminal abuse of Hammond (abuse@colorado.edu)
George Hammond
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6-2-2002
DEAR AB...@COLORADO.EDU
This complaint is about Mike Varney, apparently a graduate
student a U. Colorado. He is using the email address:
"Mike Varney" <var...@collorado.edu>
Note that an extra "l" has been added to "colorado"
He has written a "perl" program designed to hit my website every
few seconds or so and has published it on 3 Internet Newsgroups
(see headers) urging other people to use the program on their computer.
The action he has perpetrated IS A CRIMINAL ACT in that it can
flood the AT&T server making my website inaccesible and/or jam
the AT&T server itself depending on how many people start using his
program as he has publicly urged.
Yesterday the number of hits to my website suddenly jumped from
it's normal 500 hits/day to 7,000 hits/day. That's about one hit
every 15 seconds which indicates that at least one person
(probably Varney) is using the program.
Sirs, his actions of using your colorado.edu email system to
publicly publish an abusive program to 3 public newsgroups
and urging people to use it to harass me and posibly do material
damage to my website (blocking users) and/or the AT&T server
IS A CRIMINAL ACT perpetrated on YOUR EMAIL SYSTEM.
I ask you to talk to Mike Varney and tell him to stop using the
program and to cease and desist from publicly publishing it and
criminally soliciting others to use it in violation of the law.
Two of his abusive messages are attached below including
the one with the illegal program in it, and an additional threatening
message from him which he apparently has made good on. This prank,
which i'm sure he thinks is harmless could turn into a serious
criminal situation if other gullible persons become involved
and risk criminal prosecution.
I await a reply from the authorities at the U. Colorado as to
whether this student has been restrained from doing any further
material damage to my website.
Sincerely, George Hammond
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From:
"Mike Varney" <var...@collorado.edu>
Newsgroups:
sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.skeptic
Subject:
Re: Go figure!
Date:
Thu, 30 May 2002 09:30:15 -0600
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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3CF631D1...@attbi.com...
> Mike Varney wrote:
> >
> > "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:3CF5B664...@attbi.com...
> > > Etherman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3CF53031...@attbi.com...
> > > > > My website is currently getting 700 hits a day,
> > > >
> > > > So you hit the reload button 700 times per day? Get a life.
> > >
> > > GH: Well I did consider for awhile that it could be a hoaxer
> > > somewhere doing that, but the statistics over 29 months
> > > preclude the possibility. 2 years ago the site was
> > > taking like 4,000 hits a month maximum. Its slowly worked
> > > its way up to 15 or 20,000 a month... so there's no doubt
> > > its real people alright.
> >
> > Cool. I will write a little program to load your website once every 5
min
> > or so. That will sure screw up your stats. What will it cost me?
Nothing.
> > I can load it on a few dozen computer I have access to. Not too often
as I
> > would not want to be accused of a DOS.
>
> I have a tracking service that records email addys of hitters
> and analyzes them geographically, timewise, etc. Your addy
> would show up in 2 seconds, and I can write a program to
> file a complaint with your ISP and get you thrown off the
> Internet.
Hello all.
Here is a short little program that will add a "hit" to Hammered's web
counter.
It is written in python, which is a cool little scripting language and can
be downloaded from:
www.python.org
This program will ask how many hits you want to add to Hammered's web
counter, and how long you want to delay between each hit (in seconds). It is
recommended that a hit every 5 min will suffice as that will not be a DOS
attack.
The program is free ware and open source and can be modified at will.
Use at your own risk. :-)
------ begin source ------
import urllib # imports url library
from time import sleep # imports sleep timer
# Initilize variables
a = 0
t = 0
# User Input
x = input("How many hits do you want to add to Hammonds counter? ")
t = input("How long do you want to pause between each hit? (Recommend > 1
min) ")
# while loop
while a < x:
# open and reads page
sock = urllib.urlopen("http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/index.html")
hampage = sock.read()
sock.close()
print hampage
sleep(t)
a = a+1
# print goodbye
print "you have increased Hammonds page count by "
print a
print "hits"
--- end source ---
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From:
"Mike Varney" <var...@collorado.edu>
Newsgroups:
sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.skeptic
Subject:
Re: Go figure!
Date:
Fri, 31 May 2002 19:40:37 -0600
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"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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<SNIP retardeese>
Soon to update the program for you Hammond. You will get a nice surprise.
============end 2nd abuse message======================================
George Hammond
PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
This will prevent "counter watchers" from bothering to hit
my website.
In the meantime I have received full assurance from AT&T that
if the count rate rises to high enough levels to interfere with
access to the site and/or affect their server, they will take
criminal action against all email addresses showing excessive
hits. Apparently they do have the facilities to trace people
logging on to the site without any problem, and will criminally
prosecute abusers, so, if you want to do some jail time kooks, go
ahead and use Varney's illegal program.
=======================================================
GEORGE HAMMOND'S- SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/index.html
=======================================================
Dirk Van de moortel
"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3CFA2D16...@attbi.com...
> [Hammond]
> PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
> update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
> This will prevent "counter watchers" from bothering to hit
> my website.
So you are forging your own counter because you were
bragging about it. Hehe ;-)
But isn't that a criminal act?
Make sure you advertise the fact that you are manipulating it.
> In the meantime I have received full assurance from AT&T that
> if the count rate rises to high enough levels to interfere with
> access to the site and/or affect their server, they will take
> criminal action against all email addresses showing excessive
> hits.
That is *absolutely* impossible.
Show me that email from AT&T.
> Apparently they do have the facilities to trace people
> logging on to the site without any problem, and will criminally
> prosecute abusers, so, if you want to do some jail time kooks, go
> ahead and use Varney's illegal program.
That is possible.
Dirk Vdm
Mike Simons
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845
That means 10,000 hits in one day. And Hammond attributed it to Varney, for
better or for worse.
(What timing, eh?)
Thousands of readers who can hardly agree on any issue unanimously laughed
Hammond out of town.
How does that make you feel Hammond? Get a better wecounter, idiot. I'll
give you a hint: www.sitemeter.com; they'll tell you the most recent
reffering URLs. You might have known where these hits came from, and it
would have been great to see you join in on the discussion.
And to Mike Varney, I hope you can use this information if someone makes an
inquiry about your non-existent "perl" program. (BTW Hammond, it's usually
called a perl script.)
Mike Varney
> Abuse wrote:
<SNIP canned response letter fron good old CU>
>
> 6-2-2002
>
> DEAR AB...@COLORADO.EDU
>
> This complaint is about Mike Varney, apparently a graduate
> student a U. Colorado. He is using the email address:
>
> "Mike Varney" <var...@collorado.edu>
>
> Note that an extra "l" has been added to "colorado"
Spam block, idiot.
> He has written a "perl"
Phython, idiot.
> program designed to hit my website every
> few seconds or so
Time is variable, set by user.
> and has published it on 3 Internet Newsgroups
> (see headers) urging other people to use the program on their computer.
At their own risk.
> The action he has perpetrated IS A CRIMINAL ACT in that it can
> flood the AT&T server making my website inaccesible and/or jam
> the AT&T server itself depending on how many people start using his
> program as he has publicly urged.
The only way this could happen is if a terrorist crashed a plane packed with
bioweapons into your house. CNN will go non-functional for a while, and as
soon as your page leaks out it will as well.
> Yesterday the number of hits to my website suddenly jumped from
> it's normal 500 hits/day to 7,000 hits/day.
Can you prove that?
> That's about one hit
> every 15 seconds
Actually, about 12.3 per second.
> which indicates that at least one person
> (probably Varney) is using the program.
Can you prove that? Are you certain that you message has not finally
reached the masses and received the credit it so richly deserves?
> Sirs
CU is PC to the max, you must include in your bloviation the term "and
madams" or no one will read it.
> , his actions of using your colorado.edu email system to
> publicly publish an abusive program to 3 public newsgroups
They are laughing their asses off at you Hammond. The email system at CU
has nothing to do with posting Usenet messages. Learn the protocols and
nomenclature before whining.
> and urging people to use it to harass me and posibly do material
> damage to my website (blocking users) and/or the AT&T server
> IS A CRIMINAL ACT perpetrated on YOUR EMAIL SYSTEM.
The people reading this have an intimate knowledge of crackpots. They see
this from you and they will laugh their asses off and probably offer to buy
me a beer.
> I ask you to talk to Mike Varney and tell him to stop using the
> program and to cease and desist from publicly publishing it and
> criminally soliciting others to use it in violation of the law.
I can always change the program, or reference people using google to the
proper thread where the program could be found.
> Two of his abusive messages are attached below including
> the one with the illegal program in it, and an additional threatening
> message from him which he apparently has made good on.
What threat? I could also design a tritium boosted fission device that
*could* be used on your house (on paper).
So what?
> This prank,
I thought you said it was a terrorist threat and a violation of the law?
> which i'm sure he thinks is harmless could turn into a serious
> criminal situation if other gullible persons become involved
> and risk criminal prosecution.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! (oooh my stomach muscles
hurt!)
> I await a reply from the authorities at the U. Colorado as to
> whether this student has been restrained from doing any further
> material damage to my website.
Read the automatic reply again, dolt. It states that they will not contact
you about any actions taken.
For you edification, here is the policy.
(* --------------------Resolution of complaints:
You will not receive a reply unless we need more information from you. Also,
please realize that we cannot report back on any action taken against any
CU
students due to privacy issues.
Review CU-Boulder's Responsibilities of Users policy at:
http://www.colorado.edu/ITS/docs/responsibilities.html
*)
<SNIP>
Here is the program, again. Hammond posted it without reading.
Do you realize Hammond, that by publicly whining on Usenet, you have opened
yourself up to not only ridicule and derision, but others who will also
publish code that could do even more nasty stuff to your web page?
All I have to do is cross post this link to *.2600 or some such other group
and then you will feel the pain when the script kiddies and some real
Crackers get into the game.
This advice is for your own good:
Stop posting you whining to Usenet.
Apologize to me.
Apologize to everyone else on this group.
Learn something about how the internet works.
Learn some math.
Learn some physics.
Mike Varney
> [Hammond]
> PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
> update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
So, now you forge your hit rate the same as you forge your credentials.
*Smirk*
Hey Hammond... I won!
> This will prevent "counter watchers" from bothering to hit
> my website.
> In the meantime I have received full assurance from AT&T that
> if the count rate rises to high enough levels to interfere with
> access to the site and/or affect their server, they will take
> criminal action against all email addresses showing excessive
> hits.
You mean IP adresses, don't you? Of course you don't, you are an idiot who
would not know the difference.
*snicker*
Hey Hammond, I still won.
> Apparently they do have the facilities to trace people
> logging on to the site without any problem, and will criminally
> prosecute abusers, so, if you want to do some jail time kooks, go
> ahead and use Varney's illegal program.
Or you could click the refresh button on your web browser quite often.
To save you the trouble, I will soon (when I get some time) write a program
that will call your web-browsers refresh function in a timer mode.
If anyone else has a better script, please donate some of your time to the
cause.
Humm... I wonder if Hammond has any restrictions on upload bandwidth per day
from his site?
Marco Nelissen
> [Hammond]
> PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
> update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
Oh, so you're simply going to make up numbers from now on?
Well, you're not new to making up things I suppose...
> This will prevent "counter watchers" from bothering to hit
> my website.
> In the meantime I have received full assurance from AT&T that
> if the count rate rises to high enough levels to interfere with
> access to the site and/or affect their server, they will take
> criminal action against all email addresses showing excessive
> hits.
I doubt AT&T employs people that are stupid enough to have said that.
They were either pulling your leg, recognizing you for the kook that
you are, or you talked to a salesrep.
Apparently they do have the facilities to trace people
> logging on to the site
"logging on to the site"?? What, it's password-protected now?
Last time I checked, I could just view it, no username, password
or email address necessary.
Mike Varney
"Mike Simons" <crackedscience@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:addm8j$eae$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca...
> Just yesterday, the community of Fark.com took notice of hammond's site.
> http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845
> That means 10,000 hits in one day. And Hammond attributed it to Varney,
for
> better or for worse.
> (What timing, eh?)
LOL!
> Thousands of readers who can hardly agree on any issue unanimously laughed
> Hammond out of town.
>
> How does that make you feel Hammond? Get a better wecounter, idiot. I'll
> give you a hint: www.sitemeter.com; they'll tell you the most recent
> reffering URLs. You might have known where these hits came from, and it
> would have been great to see you join in on the discussion.
>
> And to Mike Varney, I hope you can use this information if someone makes
an
> inquiry about your non-existent "perl" program. (BTW Hammond, it's
usually
> called a perl script.)
Thanks!
Dirk Van de moortel
"Mike Varney" <var...@collorado.edu> wrote in message news:addmv6$m8v$1...@peabody.colorado.edu...
I propose to use the idle time of all PC's in the world to
run a little script to access his page, sort of like SETI.
Wouldn't *that* be a good cause?
Dirk Vdm
Mike Varney
"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvand...@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote
in message news:2xtK8.10079$ud....@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
I will forward the idea to United Devices.
http://www.ud.com/home.htm
They could also address the cure for Hammond stupidity by doing a genome
search on the "stupid gene".
George Hammond
>
> "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3CFA2D16...@attbi.com...
> > [Hammond]
> > PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
> > update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
> > This will prevent "counter watchers" from bothering to hit
> > my website.
>
> So you are forging your own counter because you were
> bragging about it. Hehe ;-)
> But isn't that a criminal act?
No
> Make sure you advertise the fact that you are manipulating it.
No
> > In the meantime I have received full assurance from AT&T that
> > if the count rate rises to high enough levels to interfere with
> > access to the site and/or affect their server, they will take
> > criminal action against all email addresses showing excessive
> > hits.
>
> That is *absolutely* impossible.
> Show me that email from AT&T.
No, the email from ab...@colorado.edu is sufficient.. probably
sufficient to get Varney expelled.
>
> > Apparently they do have the facilities to trace people
> > logging on to the site without any problem, and will criminally
> > prosecute abusers, so, if you want to do some jail time kooks, go
> > ahead and use Varney's illegal program.
>
> That is possible.
For AT&T, you got to be kiddin, they've been tracing calls
since 1920. You don't think they can trace a 1,000 hits a
day from some IP address... don't be a goddamned fool.
Obviously, since no one sees the hits except AT&T,
the only thing their doing is running the liability of having
ATT&T fix their ass for them in a criminal court..or you too
for that matter if you're part of it, or any other kook who's
willing to risk loosing his ISP account, fines, damages, and
criminal prosecution.
>
> Dirk Vdm
--
Dirk Van de moortel
"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3CFA5966...@attbi.com...
> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> >
> > "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3CFA2D16...@attbi.com...
> > > [Hammond]
> > > PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
> > > update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
> > > This will prevent "counter watchers" from bothering to hit
> > > my website.
> >
> > So you are forging your own counter because you were
> > bragging about it. Hehe ;-)
> > But isn't that a criminal act?
>
> No
of course not.
joking.
>
> > Make sure you advertise the fact that you are manipulating it.
>
> No
of course not
joking.
> > > In the meantime I have received full assurance from AT&T that
> > > if the count rate rises to high enough levels to interfere with
> > > access to the site and/or affect their server, they will take
> > > criminal action against all email addresses showing excessive
> > > hits.
> >
> > That is *absolutely* impossible.
> > Show me that email from AT&T.
>
> No, the email from ab...@colorado.edu is sufficient.. probably
> sufficient to get Varney expelled.
So you were lying: you did not receive a mail where they say that
"they will take criminal action against all email addresses showing
excessive hits."
Why didn't you receive such a mail? Because it can't be done.
> > > Apparently they do have the facilities to trace people
> > > logging on to the site without any problem, and will criminally
> > > prosecute abusers, so, if you want to do some jail time kooks, go
> > > ahead and use Varney's illegal program.
> >
> > That is possible.
Read carefully: I said it *is* possible.
>
> For AT&T, you got to be kiddin, they've been tracing calls
> since 1920. You don't think they can trace a 1,000 hits a
> day from some IP address... don't be a goddamned fool.
I am no fool. They can trace IP addresses. Of course.
They can't trace *email addresses* of people surfing and hitting
your site. That is what you falsely claimed they told you.
> Obviously, since no one sees the hits except AT&T,
> the only thing their doing is running the liability of having
> ATT&T fix their ass for them in a criminal court..or you too
> for that matter if you're part of it, or any other kook who's
> willing to risk loosing his ISP account, fines, damages, and
> criminal prosecution.
You are somewhat less intelligent than I suspected.
I estimate your IQ (FWIW) at a mere 125.
Drawing attention to your counter is counter-productive ;-)
Dirk Vdm
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Criminal (since we have now discovered that you harassers are in
fact ordinary run of the mill criminals like Varney).. they can
trace an IP address and computer in seconds.
--
Marco Nelissen
>> "logging on to the site"?? What, it's password-protected now?
>> Last time I checked, I could just view it, no username, password
>> or email address necessary.
>
> [Hammond]
> Criminal (since we have now discovered that you harassers are in
> fact ordinary run of the mill criminals like Varney).. they can
> trace an IP address and computer in seconds.
So now everyone viewing your webpage is a criminal? Wow, that's
700 criminals a day! Or was it 500, or 650? You've mentioned all
those numbers. Anyway, since I am apparently a criminal for having
viewed your webpage, I humbly request that you send a complaint to
my ISP. Pretty please?
--
The morons of sci.physics: http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcone/sciphysics.html
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Apparently you think I read your posts or pay attention
to you or something.... even a dink head would know
better... you don't have anything of value to say.
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Lets see that's two criminal acts in a row. Obviously you are
no a "PhD candidate at U. Colorado" or you'd be in jail by now.
So... you're just a nobody computer hacker... possibly already in
jail? I wonder how many of these other clowns that are harassing
me are actually known criminals? Naturally this new threat will
be forwarded to ab...@colorado.edu.
--
Marco Nelissen
> Lets see that's two criminal acts in a row. Obviously you are
> no a "PhD candidate at U. Colorado" or you'd be in jail by now.
> So... you're just a nobody computer hacker... possibly already in
> jail? I wonder how many of these other clowns that are harassing
> me are actually known criminals? Naturally this new threat will
> be forwarded to ab...@colorado.edu.
If you think Varney is not at UC, why bother them with it?
Don't you have something better to do? Shouldn't you be working
on your book? It's due in december after all, and so far you've
got nothing...
George Hammond
>
> Just yesterday, the community of Fark.com took notice of hammond's site.
> http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845
[Hammond]
JUMPED UP JESUS!!--- I just checked that FARK URL and it says 8,822 people
have hit my website in the past 24 hours.
I don't know who the christ they are but I've never heard of them....
UNTIL NOW.
You mean it WASN'T MIVE VARNEY'S "Perl script" that was hitting my
website... it was "FARK"...??????
> That means 10,000 hits in one day. And Hammond attributed it to Varney, for
> better or for worse.
> (What timing, eh?)
[Hammond]
Sure is uncanny timing.... I was sure it was Varney... what
else could it be.... a miracle?
> Thousands of readers who can hardly agree on any issue unanimously laughed
> Hammond out of town.
[Hammond]
Sounds like nervous laughter to me... I haven't checked into their
statements yet.... I'm still reeling from the timing coincidence
which lead me to believe Varney's hoax was actually real (I can't
read Perl).
>
> How does that make you feel Hammond? Get a better wecounter, idiot. I'll
> give you a hint: www.sitemeter.com; they'll tell you the most recent
> reffering URLs. You might have known where these hits came from, and it
> would have been great to see you join in on the discussion.
[Hammond]
What good would it do to try to talk to 10,000 people?
Anyway.... here I am out here dealing with race hatred, class
warfare, the Jews vs. the Nazis, Atheistic Communism vs. Democracy,
Nuclear War, .... they'll have to shoot thru me to hit you
ya know..... and you computer/internet experts can't even
spare 2 seconds to tell me about something like Fark or Sitemeter,
.... whaddau think this is you're watching a one man baseball game
or something?
>
> And to Mike Varney, I hope you can use this information if someone makes an
> inquiry about your non-existent "perl" program. (BTW Hammond, it's usually
> called a perl script.)
[Hammond]
I wouldn't know Perl or an IP address from the Bianchi Identities
or the Trinity.....
Anyway... if Varney's Perl script was a hoax... or if no one is
actually using it... I'm looking pretty stupid... anyway, I put
my counter back and updated it 10,000 hits based on the FARK numbers
and the fact it was taking 200 hits an hour when I shut it off.
Thanks for giving me some straight dope... everybody talks to me
in Parables
Dirk Van de moortel
"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3CFA87B2...@attbi.com...
[snip]
> Anyway... if Varney's Perl script was a hoax... or if no one is
> actually using it... I'm looking pretty stupid...
Yes.
And this is an elegant way out of your mess.
IQ estimate climbing to 126 again.
Dirk Vdm
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Hey Mike..... I checked FARK and their site says 8,822 people
hit my website in the past 24 hours.... is that Perl Script of
yours a hoax?.... have you got anything to do with the FARK thing?
.... come on, lets have the straight scoop on this.. what's going
on? My site is currently taking 20 hits a minute... what is it?
--
Marco Nelissen
> statements yet.... I'm still reeling from the timing coincidence
> which lead me to believe Varney's hoax was actually real (I can't
> read Perl).
Try python...
> Anyway... if Varney's Perl script was a hoax... or if no one is
> actually using it... I'm looking pretty stupid...
There are SO MANY things I could say here. But I won't. :)
George Hammond
[Hammond]
If you're serious about damaging my website I don't think
U. Colorado is going to think it's funny. Anyway, I now believe all
the hits are coming from FARK and not from your script which someone
would have to be an outright criminal fool to use and would be
instantly detected on www.sitemeter.com. And I'm sure AT&T wouldn't
have any trouble identifying them.
Dirk Van de moortel
"George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message news:3CFA8C5F...@attbi.com...
[snip]
> [Hammond]
> Hey Mike..... I checked FARK and their site says 8,822 people
> hit my website in the past 24 hours.... is that Perl Script of
> yours a hoax?.... have you got anything to do with the FARK thing?
> .... come on, lets have the straight scoop on this.. what's going
> on? My site is currently taking 20 hits a minute... what is it?
My 70 servers at the office.
Maybe tomorrow morning I'll stop them. Maybe not.
Dirk Vdm
Uncle Al
>
> "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:3CFA26AF...@attbi.com...
> > Abuse wrote:
[snip]
> > which i'm sure he thinks is harmless could turn into a serious
> > criminal situation if other gullible persons become involved
> > and risk criminal prosecution.
>
> Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! (oooh my stomach muscles
> hurt!)
[snip]
Uncle Al is IMPRESSED! All derogatory statements made or implied
about Mike Varney are hereby rescinded. Varney has obviously
undergone an exponential expansion phase and is now fully vetted as a
Guardian of Quality.
As for Hammond... First the whore complains there is no throughput,
now she complains her ass is bleeding. Ha ha ha.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
franz heymann
> [Hammond]
> PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
> update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
Thanks for letting us know. I will of course remind the readers of your
duplicity every time you mention anything to do with counters in any of
your posts, and at random times when I feel like it.
Franz Heymann
franz heymann
[Snip]
> Hey Mike..... I checked FARK and their site says 8,822 people
> hit my website in the past 24 hours.... is that Perl Script of
> yours a hoax?.... have you got anything to do with the FARK thing?
> .... come on, lets have the straight scoop on this.. what's going
> on? My site is currently taking 20 hits a minute... what is it?
It means that thousands of readers of more than one ng are pissed off
with your crap.
Serves you right for crapping all over four ng's instead of aiming your
arse at the ng you set up some time ago specifically for folk who want
to pull your leg.
Franz Heymann
franz heymann
[Snip]
> I'm looking pretty stupid...
Not significantly more stupid than you looked before this unfortunate
catastrophe.
Franz Heymann
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Hmmmmmm.... oh, oh... Fark has discovered Frek.
--
George Hammond
>
> Mike Varney wrote:
> >
> > "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:3CFA26AF...@attbi.com...
> > > Abuse wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > > which i'm sure he thinks is harmless could turn into a serious
> > > criminal situation if other gullible persons become involved
> > > and risk criminal prosecution.
> >
> > Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! (oooh my stomach muscles
> > hurt!)
>
> [snip]
>
> Uncle Al is IMPRESSED! All derogatory statements made or implied
> about Mike Varney are hereby rescinded. Varney has obviously
> undergone an exponential expansion phase and is now fully vetted as a
> Guardian of Quality.
>
> As for Hammond... First the whore complains there is no throughput,
> now she complains her ass is bleeding. Ha ha ha.
[Hammond]
Al... I don't think Fark thinks you're funny.
>
> --
> Uncle Al
> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
--
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Faggetaboutit.... we got real trouble, 10,000 FARK.COM members
have hit my website in the last 24 hours:
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845&ok=yes
it wasn't Varney.
>
> --
> The morons of sci.physics: http://www.xs4all.nl/~marcone/sciphysics.html
--
Bob Casanova
sci.skeptic, posted by George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com>:
<snip>
>My site is currently taking 20 hits a minute... what is it?
Probably the same impulse that prompts some people to gawk
at car wrecks.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Whoa... somebody discovered that 10,000 FARK.COM members have
hit my website in the past 24 hours, for confirmation see:
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845&ok=yes
screw Varney.... this is real trouble... you know who they are
don't you... Gengis Kahn's army, Fark has 270,000 members.
Uncle Al
[snip]
> I'm looking pretty stupid...
[snip]
You aways look ugly stooopid.
You suffer TREMENDOUS civil liability if Varney can show damage to his
good name (your voluminous libelous postings) or personal loss
(compensatory and multiple punitive damages awarded by a jury; civil
award only needs 9 of 12 yea) - University inquiry; loss of research
time, personal pain and suffering... Varney has you by your withered
testiclettes.
$50-100K claimed plus legals costs and jury fees would not be
unreasonable as soon as opposition counsel downloads the Google
archive - which, being by your own hand in the public domain, can be
splattered hither, thither, and yon without libel or slander
countersuit possible. You are royally screwed in trump spades
redoubled. Varney gets university legal counsel free - you defamed an
employee wth intent to injure and cause loss; the corporate persona
will hunt you like an animal.
Varney will own everything of yours of value through court award. All
you can hope for is a declaration of personal insanity and State
institutionalization. EVERYBODY WINS! Even you, after the drugs are
force-fed.
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/rejoice.htm
Mike Varney
> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> >
> > "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3CFA5966...@attbi.com...
> > > Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> > > >
> > You are somewhat less intelligent than I suspected.
> > I estimate your IQ (FWIW) at a mere 125.
> >
> > Drawing attention to your counter is counter-productive ;-)
> >
> > Dirk Vdm
>
> [Hammond]
> Apparently you think I read your posts or pay attention
> to you or something.... even a dink head would know
> better... you don't have anything of value to say.
*blinks*
And folks, Hammond has now won the award for the most stupid response yet.
Mike Varney
> Marco Nelissen wrote:
> >
> > In sci.physics George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:
> > > [Hammond]
> > > Lets see that's two criminal acts in a row. Obviously you are
> > > no a "PhD candidate at U. Colorado" or you'd be in jail by now.
> > > So... you're just a nobody computer hacker... possibly already in
> > > jail? I wonder how many of these other clowns that are harassing
> > > me are actually known criminals? Naturally this new threat will
> > > be forwarded to ab...@colorado.edu.
> >
> > If you think Varney is not at UC, why bother them with it?
> > Don't you have something better to do? Shouldn't you be working
> > on your book? It's due in december after all, and so far you've
> > got nothing...
>
> [Hammond]
> Whoa... somebody discovered that 10,000 FARK.COM members have
> hit my website in the past 24 hours, for confirmation see:
>
> http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845&ok=yes
>
> screw Varney.... this is real trouble... you know who they are
> don't you... Gengis Kahn's army, Fark has 270,000 members.
I warned you that your site would get the attention it deserved.
But would you listen to me? Noooooooooo.
I would pull on the galoshes Hammond, the shit is about to get deep.
Mike Varney
Your lack of research skills is not my fault. You have all the needed
information at your fingertips in order to verify my vocation, however you
lack the cognitive abilities to perform the needed data reduction.
Give it up Hammond, popular opinion states you are an intellectual cripple.
I have won, you have lost.
Dirk Bruere
"Mike Varney" <var...@collorado.edu> wrote in message
news:ade929$38u$1...@peabody.colorado.edu...
So, how do I get 10,000 people a day to read my site?
[Apart from using a few choice key words concerning reproduction]
Dirk
George Hammond
>
>
> [snip]
>
> > Anyway... if Varney's Perl script was a hoax... or if no one is
> > actually using it... I'm looking pretty stupid...
>
> Yes.
> And this is an elegant way out of your mess.
[Hammond]
Hey, can you speak straight English, I'm not privy to
"insider" jokes. The FARK website says 9,249 people
(Fark members) hit my website in the past 24 hours...
and there are hundreds of posts there about it (not
bad in fact, if you can read Fark, which I was born knowing
since Freks can understand Farks) that much is real... what
the rest of this is, I dunno.
> IQ estimate climbing to 126 again.
>
> Dirk Vdm
--
George Hammond
>
[Hammond]
Hmmmmmmmmmm.............
Mike Varney
> Marco Nelissen wrote:
> >
> > In sci.physics George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:
> > >> "logging on to the site"?? What, it's password-protected now?
> > >> Last time I checked, I could just view it, no username, password
> > >> or email address necessary.
> > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > Criminal (since we have now discovered that you harassers are in
> > > fact ordinary run of the mill criminals like Varney).. they can
> > > trace an IP address and computer in seconds.
> >
> > So now everyone viewing your webpage is a criminal? Wow, that's
> > 700 criminals a day! Or was it 500, or 650? You've mentioned all
> > those numbers. Anyway, since I am apparently a criminal for having
> > viewed your webpage, I humbly request that you send a complaint to
> > my ISP. Pretty please?
>
> [Hammond]
> Faggetaboutit.... we got real trouble, 10,000 FARK.COM members
> have hit my website in the last 24 hours:
>
> http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845&ok=yes
>
> it wasn't Varney.
Nice. Will you send an apology letter to ab...@colorado.edu for wasting
their time, effort and bandwidth with you psychotic ranting? No need to
apologize to me since I know you cannot help yourself.
Marco Nelissen
> Faggetaboutit.... we got real trouble, 10,000 FARK.COM members
> have hit my website in the last 24 hours:
So? What's the problem? 10000 hits isn't that much. Even a slow
webserver can easily deal with 10 times that amount. Or are you
worried that by now 10000 people have seen your theory and recognized
it for the nonsense that it is? Afraid your book might not sell?
Mike Varney
> Mike Varney wrote:
<Bandwidth SNIP of some of my wisdom>
> > Do you realize Hammond, that by publicly whining on Usenet, you have
opened
> > yourself up to not only ridicule and derision, but others who will also
> > publish code that could do even more nasty stuff to your web page?
> > All I have to do is cross post this link to *.2600 or some such other
group
> > and then you will feel the pain when the script kiddies and some real
> > Crackers get into the game.
> > This advice is for your own good:
> > Stop posting you whining to Usenet.
> > Apologize to me.
> > Apologize to everyone else on this group.
> > Learn something about how the internet works.
> > Learn some math.
> > Learn some physics.
>
> [Hammond]
> If you're serious about damaging my website
Damaging your web site? How?
> I don't think
> U. Colorado is going to think it's funny.
I am certain that the good people at ITS are already laughing their asses
off.
> Anyway, I now believe all
> the hits are coming from FARK and not from your script
Are you sure? *smirk*
Mike Varney
The swell of popular opinion... conclusion: You are stupid Hammond.
Mike Varney
> Mike Simons wrote:
> >
> > Just yesterday, the community of Fark.com took notice of hammond's site.
> > http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845
>
> JUMPED UP JESUS!!--- I just checked that FARK URL and it says 8,822
people
> have hit my website in the past 24 hours.
> I don't know who the christ they are but I've never heard of them....
> UNTIL NOW.
> You mean it WASN'T MIVE VARNEY'S "Perl script" that was hitting my
> website... it was "FARK"...??????
Python script, imbecile.
And how do you know they did not use the Python script? *chuckle*
>
> > That means 10,000 hits in one day. And Hammond attributed it to Varney,
for
> > better or for worse.
> > (What timing, eh?)
>
> [Hammond]
> Sure is uncanny timing.... I was sure it was Varney... what
> else could it be.... a miracle?
>
>
> > Thousands of readers who can hardly agree on any issue unanimously
laughed
> > Hammond out of town.
>
> [Hammond]
> Sounds like nervous laughter to me... I haven't checked into their
> statements yet.... I'm still reeling from the timing coincidence
> which lead me to believe Varney's hoax was actually real (I can't
> read Perl).
Python, dolt. You cannot read english as well. (or math, or physics...)
>
> >
> > How does that make you feel Hammond? Get a better wecounter, idiot.
I'll
> > give you a hint: www.sitemeter.com; they'll tell you the most recent
> > reffering URLs. You might have known where these hits came from, and it
> > would have been great to see you join in on the discussion.
>
> [Hammond]
> What good would it do to try to talk to 10,000 people?
Jeebus did a good job. Millions of Moslems claim hearing the divine word
each day.
> Anyway.... here I am out here dealing with race hatred, class
> warfare, the Jews vs. the Nazis, Atheistic Communism vs. Democracy,
> Nuclear War, .... they'll have to shoot thru me to hit you
> ya know..... and you computer/internet experts can't even
> spare 2 seconds to tell me about something like Fark or Sitemeter,
> .... whaddau think this is you're watching a one man baseball game
> or something?
>
>
> >
> > And to Mike Varney, I hope you can use this information if someone makes
an
> > inquiry about your non-existent "perl" program. (BTW Hammond, it's
usually
> > called a perl script.)
>
> [Hammond]
> I wouldn't know Perl or an IP address from the Bianchi Identities
> or the Trinity.....
We know.
> Anyway... if Varney's Perl script was a hoax... or if no one is
> actually using it... I'm looking pretty stupid...
So what's new?
> anyway, I put
> my counter back and updated it 10,000 hits based on the FARK numbers
> and the fact it was taking 200 hits an hour when I shut it off.
> Thanks for giving me some straight dope... everybody talks to me
> in Parables
Here is a parable for you: You are stupid.
George Hammond
[Hammond]
That's nothing chief.. wait til it hits the fan!
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Don't ask me, I didn't think it was real, I was already on
the telephone calling the White House about Mike Varney.
Mike Varney
Hahahahahahahahaha! Oh stop it already.
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Wake up kid... learn some common psychology... like who
all the players are. Do you know who "Fark" is, and why
they would call themselves "Fark" and why they have 270,000
members? No, you don't, but I do.
Lemme tell you something, when Ghengis Kahn invaded Europe
and conquered the entire world from the China Sea to the
English Channel, there is only one city he didn't pillage,
and that was the Vatican. Why? Because when G.K. arrived
at the city wall with 250,000 men mounted on ponies, Pope
Leo got on a white horse with two Cardinals and rode out to
talk to him. Leo told G.K that if he razed the Vatican God
would strike him dead. Ghengis believed it, turned his
quarter million ponies around and retired to Vienna.
Fark is the modern day version of that situation. I don't need
to tell Fark to leave me alone, they will, after they've
taken a good look at the Vatican, they won't burn it down...
unlike you guys who are trying to murder me. You wanna watch
you're goddamned step.. just because they're telling jokes about
me over there, like "I hope Stephen Hawking gets up out of his
wheel chair and strangles the guy"... the point is, they are
the ONLY organized group of people who have taken notice of me...
fact is... like G.K... they actually have a good idea what this
thing really is... their not gunning for me bro... it's vicious
little snakes like you they don't like... I'm telling you right
up front about it.... be careful about doing anything rash.
In controversial, dangerous and explosive matters... NOBODY,
I mean NOBODY, is about to say what they're really thinking...
except me. I'm the designated confessor bro. (or rather the theory
is a confession of faith by Science) and the name of
the game is this... the first one to take a serious shot at me
gets it, everybody will turn on him. That's the
way it went down last time (2000 yrs ago), and that's the way it's
going down this time... they're all looking for Judas Iscariot pal,
and don't ever forget it. Varney almost got the nomination, thank
christ he missed. No, it's not a Saviour this time, it's
a scientific theory, but it's still a "proof of God". Dummy up dude.
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Get today's paper pal, you're behind the times. Somebody discovered
it was 10,000 members of FARK.com who hit my website in 24 hours,
it's still taking 250 hits/hour from it. It wasn't Varney. It was
real people, so I've put the counter back up.
--
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Wrong.. read em and weep, as they say in stud poker:
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845
(Some Guy) Theoretical Physicist accidentally
discovers scientific proof of God
Farkers have clicked on the above link 9686 times
It's not coming from the Newsgroups.
>
> Franz Heymann
Mike Varney
> franz heymann wrote:
> >
> > George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:3CFA2D16...@attbi.com...
> > > [Hammond]
> > > PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
> > > update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
> >
> > Thanks for letting us know. I will of course remind the readers of your
> > duplicity every time you mention anything to do with counters in any of
> > your posts, and at random times when I feel like it.
> >
> > Franz Heymann
>
> [Hammond]
> Get today's paper pal, you're behind the times. Somebody discovered
> it was 10,000 members of FARK.com who hit my website in 24 hours,
> it's still taking 250 hits/hour from it. It wasn't Varney. It was
> real people, so I've put the counter back up.
Do you perchance have a upload limit on your server dictating how much
information can be delivered from your site?
Mike Varney
> Marco Nelissen wrote:
> >
> > In sci.physics George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:
> > > Faggetaboutit.... we got real trouble, 10,000 FARK.COM members
> > > have hit my website in the last 24 hours:
> >
> > So? What's the problem? 10000 hits isn't that much. Even a slow
> > webserver can easily deal with 10 times that amount. Or are you
> > worried that by now 10000 people have seen your theory and recognized
> > it for the nonsense that it is? Afraid your book might not sell?
>
> [Hammond]
> Wake up kid... learn some common psychology
Should we learn it by osmosis, like you did?
... like who
> all the players are. Do you know who "Fark" is, and why
> they would call themselves "Fark" and why they have 270,000
> members? No, you don't, but I do.
Please, enlighten us.
<SNIP blah>
> unlike you guys who are trying to murder me. You wanna watch
> you're goddamned step.. just because they're telling jokes about
> me over there, like "I hope Stephen Hawking gets up out of his
> wheel chair and strangles the guy"... the point is, they are
> the ONLY organized group of people who have taken notice of me...
Not religion?
> be careful about doing anything rash.
> In controversial, dangerous and explosive matters... NOBODY,
> I mean NOBODY, is about to say what they're really thinking...
> except me.
I think that you are a pontificating baboon.... really.
> I'm the designated confessor bro. (or rather the theory
> is a confession of faith by Science) and the name of
> the game is this... the first one to take a serious shot at me
> gets it, everybody will turn on him.
Popular opinion states otherwise.
> That's the
> way it went down last time (2000 yrs ago)
Suffering from a deity complex Hammond? You have done this before, correct?
>, and that's the way it's
> going down this time... they're all looking for Judas Iscariot pal,
> and don't ever forget it. Varney almost got the nomination, thank
> christ he missed.
Damn.
George Hammond
>
> On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 21:11:31 GMT, the following appeared in
> sci.skeptic, posted by George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com>:
>
> <snip>
>
> >My site is currently taking 20 hits a minute... what is it?
>
> Probably the same impulse that prompts some people to gawk
> at car wrecks.
[Hammond]
No shit... the biggest car wreck in history was Calvary
you know... don't tell me Science is about to go there!
>
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> "Evidence confirming an observation is
> evidence that the observation is wrong."
> - McNameless
--
George Hammond
gulp...
George Hammond
>
> [Snip]
>
> > I'm looking pretty stupid...
>
> catastrophe.
>
> Franz Heymann
GH: "before!"... you better buy a helmut.
George Hammond
>
> George Hammond wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > I'm looking pretty stupid...
> [snip]
>
> You aways look ugly stooopid.
>
> You suffer TREMENDOUS civil liability if Varney can show damage to his
> good name (your voluminous libelous postings) or personal loss
> (compensatory and multiple punitive damages awarded by a jury; civil
> award only needs 9 of 12 yea) - University inquiry; loss of research
> time, personal pain and suffering... Varney has you by your withered
> testiclettes.
[Hammond]
Hey.. I've been living on Welfare for 20 years. The only thing
I own is a moped.
>
> $50-100K claimed plus legals costs and jury fees would not be
> unreasonable as soon as opposition counsel downloads the Google
> archive - which, being by your own hand in the public domain, can be
> splattered hither, thither, and yon without libel or slander
> countersuit possible. You are royally screwed in trump spades
> redoubled. Varney gets university legal counsel free - you defamed an
> employee wth intent to injure and cause loss; the corporate persona
> will hunt you like an animal.
[Hammond]
I'll claim the insanity defense.
>
> Varney will own everything of yours of value through court award. All
> you can hope for is a declaration of personal insanity and State
> institutionalization. EVERYBODY WINS! Even you, after the drugs are
> force-fed.
[Hammond]
What about crucifixion, is that definitely out this time?
>
> http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/rejoice.htm
>
> --
> Uncle Al
> http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
> "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" The Net!
--
ahussie
snip
> > That means 10,000 hits in one day. And Hammond attributed it to Varney, for
> > better or for worse.
> > (What timing, eh?)
>
> [Hammond]
> Sure is uncanny timing.... I was sure it was Varney... what
> else could it be.... a miracle?
maybe it was curvature in your psycometry space doohickey?
George Hammond
GH: No, are you? |:|
George Hammond
>
> "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:3CFA87B2...@attbi.com...
> > Mike Simons wrote:
> > >
> > > Just yesterday, the community of Fark.com took notice of hammond's site.
> > > http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > JUMPED UP JESUS!!--- I just checked that FARK URL and it says 8,822
> people
> > have hit my website in the past 24 hours.
> > I don't know who the christ they are but I've never heard of them....
> > UNTIL NOW.
> > You mean it WASN'T MIVE VARNEY'S "Perl script" that was hitting my
> > website... it was "FARK"...??????
>
> Python script, imbecile.
> And how do you know they did not use the Python script? *chuckle*
[Hammond]
Actually it did 10,000 hits in about 12 hours... that's 4 times
a second, a computer can't refresh that fast. Beside's it's not
FARK's style... they don't like dirty jokes or dirty tricks.
And, there are hundreds of postings on Fark about the website.
>
> >
> > > That means 10,000 hits in one day. And Hammond attributed it to Varney,
> for
> > > better or for worse.
> > > (What timing, eh?)
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > Sure is uncanny timing.... I was sure it was Varney... what
> > else could it be.... a miracle?
> >
> >
> > > Thousands of readers who can hardly agree on any issue unanimously
> laughed
> > > Hammond out of town.
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > Sounds like nervous laughter to me... I haven't checked into their
> > statements yet.... I'm still reeling from the timing coincidence
> > which lead me to believe Varney's hoax was actually real (I can't
> > read Perl).
>
> Python, dolt. You cannot read english as well. (or math, or physics...)
GH: I'm afraid of snakes too, big time.
GH: Here's a parable for you: You are smart.
TMG
wrote:
>franz heymann wrote:
>>
>> George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
>> news:3CFA2D16...@attbi.com...
>> > [Hammond]
>> > PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
>> > update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
>>
>> Thanks for letting us know. I will of course remind the readers of your
>> duplicity every time you mention anything to do with counters in any of
>> your posts, and at random times when I feel like it.
>>
>> Franz Heymann
>
>[Hammond]
>Get today's paper pal, you're behind the times. Somebody discovered
>it was 10,000 members of FARK.com who hit my website in 24 hours,
>it's still taking 250 hits/hour from it. It wasn't Varney. It was
>real people, so I've put the counter back up.
Actually I suspect the the page refresh is *much* faster from within
attbi's servers. Just a theory -
Mensanator
>From: "Dirk Bruere" art...@kbnet.co.uk
>Date: 6/2/02 6:31 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <ade9hd$v4p42$1...@ID-120108.news.dfncis.de>
Well, I got this python program...
TMG
and refresh requests from with attbi (his home server farm) *might* be
quicker than others. Just a theory.
Mike Varney
"George Hammond"
> Mike Varney wrote:
> > "George Hammond"
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Simons"
Hello all. Due to popular demand and comments from Hammond, I have written
another Python script.
Python is a cool little interpreted language and can be found at:
www.python.org
The new version will not print out Hammond's html code, but can be augmented
by removing the bash comment to do so.
This program will also print an update counter so you will know how many
hits have been added to his counter.
Any helpful suggestions for improving this program are welcome.
P.S. Ready to apologize to the group and to CU now Hammond?
----start script ----
# Hammondhitter.py
# Version 1.2, 6/2/2002
# This program adds "hits" to Hammonds page counter.
# This program is freeware and can be modified at will.
# Use program at your own risk.
# Use of program may cause Hammond to bitch, whine, moan
# and attempt to report you to abuse@* for abuse of your email account!
(Don't laugh!)
# Hammond is stupid.
# Imports Useful Libraries
import urllib
import sys
from time import sleep
#Function Definition. This opens and reads Hammonds Page
def openhammond():
hampage = urllib.urlopen('http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/')
hitclick = hampage.read()
# Set Index Counter
a = 0
t = 0
# User Input
x = input("How many hits do you want to add to Hammonds counter? ")
t = input("How long do you want to pause (in seconds) between each hit? ")
# while loop
while a < x:
# open and reads page
openhammond()
# print hitclick
print "you have increased Hammonds page count by "
print a+1
print "hits"
sleep(t)
a = a+1
print "Bye"
--- end script---
Mike Varney
> Mike Varney wrote:
> >
> > "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:3CFA87B2...@attbi.com...
> > > Mike Simons wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just yesterday, the community of Fark.com took notice of hammond's
site.
> > > > http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845
> > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > JUMPED UP JESUS!!--- I just checked that FARK URL and it says 8,822
> > people
> > > have hit my website in the past 24 hours.
> > > I don't know who the christ they are but I've never heard of
them....
> > > UNTIL NOW.
> > > You mean it WASN'T MIVE VARNEY'S "Perl script" that was hitting my
> > > website... it was "FARK"...??????
> >
> > Python script, imbecile.
> > And how do you know they did not use the Python script? *chuckle*
>
> [Hammond]
> Actually it did 10,000 hits in about 12 hours... that's 4 times
> a second, a computer can't refresh that fast.
You know nothing about what computers can do, dolt.
>Beside's it's not
> FARK's style... they don't like dirty jokes or dirty tricks.
> And, there are hundreds of postings on Fark about the website.
> > > I'm still reeling from the timing coincidence
> > > which lead me to believe Varney's hoax was actually real (I can't
> > > read Perl).
> >
> > Python, dolt. You cannot read english as well. (or math, or physics...)
>
> GH: I'm afraid of snakes too, big time.
This is a topic you should discuss with your shrink, not me as I could care
less.
Marco Nelissen
> Hey.. I've been living on Welfare for 20 years. The only thing
> I own is a moped.
And yet you still manage to run your own publishing company,
apparently (Hammond Psychology Publications). It's kind of sad
that the American taxpayers are indirectly paying for your drivel.
Marco Nelissen
> a second, a computer can't refresh that fast.
Once again, Hammond's ignorance speaks for itself...
Tom Potter
"Uncle Al" <Uncl...@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:3CFAA3EE...@hate.spam.net...
> George Hammond wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > I'm looking pretty stupid...
> [snip]
>
> You aways look ugly stooopid.
>
> You suffer TREMENDOUS civil liability if Varney can show damage to his
> good name (your voluminous libelous postings) or personal loss
> (compensatory and multiple punitive damages awarded by a jury; civil
> award only needs 9 of 12 yea) - University inquiry; loss of research
> time, personal pain and suffering... Varney has you by your withered
> testiclettes.
>
> $50-100K claimed plus legals costs and jury fees would not be
> unreasonable as soon as opposition counsel downloads the Google
> archive - which, being by your own hand in the public domain, can be
> splattered hither, thither, and yon without libel or slander
> countersuit possible. You are royally screwed in trump spades
> redoubled. Varney gets university legal counsel free - you defamed an
> employee wth intent to injure and cause loss; the corporate persona
> will hunt you like an animal.
>
> Varney will own everything of yours of value through court award. All
> you can hope for is a declaration of personal insanity and State
> institutionalization. EVERYBODY WINS! Even you, after the drugs are
> force-fed.
I dare say,
that after a jury were exposed to a few thousand of Varney's posts,
they would be 12 to zero against him, and
the Judge would summon a Grand Jury to cite him for something.
If I were in the states, I would welcome an opportunity to sue
or counter sue Varney, that is if he has any assets worth going after.
If he didn't have assets, I would visit him personally,
and discuss his problem.
As can be seen from the posts in this newsgroup,
Varney is a disgrace to society, and has shifted the central
topic of this newsgroup from physics, to name calling.
He has done this,
by exploiting the prejudices and hatred latent in some people,
He comes right out, and says nasty, uncivilized comments about someone,
and the dog pack uses this as a trigger to rush in.
As the old saying goes,
"Those who lie down with dogs, get up with fleas."
Varney has spread his fleas to a lot of people.
One could call him the
"Typhoid Mary of hatred and uncivilized behavior."
--
Tom Potter http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
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Y.Porat
> George Hammond wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > I'm looking pretty stupid...
> [snip]
>
> You aways look ugly stooopid.
>
> You suffer TREMENDOUS civil liability if Varney can show damage to his
> good name (your voluminous libelous postings) or personal loss
> (compensatory and multiple punitive damages awarded by a jury; civil
uncle
just have a look about the list of people who are defending Varny....
i tryed to understand the 'rational' of your behaviuor
i am ready even to understand that there must be 'something'
in a public ng to 'deffend' it from 'lowering to a certain minimum level'
but just have a look back how (i will put somewhat a declining line-
not necessarily the right order)
you youself, Heymann De Mortel and last but very least Varny
look at your style your 'techniques'
i think Varny has lowerd the standard of thread to a lower
than whore hose or a drunk pub level
a level of a wild animal.(excuse me if there are spelling mistakes
i feel there are (:-))
so i think you should reconsider your style its magnitude etc etc-
just in order that people will accept you more seriously
and respectfully.(and may be more understandfuly)
TIA
Y.Porat
----------
Mike Varney
"Tom Potter" <t...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3cfa...@post.newsfeed.com...
Dare you?
> that after a jury were exposed to a few thousand of Varney's posts,
> they would be 12 to zero against him, and
> the Judge would summon a Grand Jury to cite him for something.
I doubt it.
> If I were in the states, I would welcome an opportunity to sue
> or counter sue Varney, that is if he has any assets worth going after.
> If he didn't have assets, I would visit him personally,
> and discuss his problem.
Ah, a threat.. cool. Now it is on public record. Testosterone compels me
to say "bring it on, fruit." but the result would make me feel like I was
beating on a cripple.
> As can be seen from the posts in this newsgroup,
> Varney is a disgrace to society, and has shifted the central
> topic of this newsgroup from physics, to name calling.
Imbicile.
> He has done this,
> by exploiting the prejudices and hatred latent in some people,
Latent? Some?
> He comes right out, and says nasty, uncivilized comments about someone,
> and the dog pack uses this as a trigger to rush in.
You mean like when I call you an nitwit peice of rancid afterbirth? Is that
what you mean?
> As the old saying goes,
> "Those who lie down with dogs, get up with fleas."
> Varney has spread his fleas to a lot of people.
> One could call him the
> "Typhoid Mary of hatred and uncivilized behavior."
Hey, you are the one crapping in the drinking supply.
Dirk Van de moortel
"Y.Porat" <por...@netvision.net.il> wrote in message news:c91f39eb.02060...@posting.google.com...
Just having fun over someone begging for it, you know...
After all, Hammond *is* enjoying this too :-)
Another guy Potter just jumped in, asking for his share.
Look: he just declared (or did he merely suggest it?):
| "If I were in the states, I would welcome an opportunity to sue
| or counter sue Varney, that is if he has any assets worth going after.
| If he didn't have assets, I would visit him personally,
| and discuss his problem."
Dirty isn't it? But no problem with dirty, as long as it's funny.
The problem is that he is actually serious about it and it wasn't
intended to be funny at all.
Keep an eye on what might be coming next: you'll notice that he
will enjoy it too, but in some other, rather twisted way...
All the best,
Dirk Vdm
Dirk Van de moortel
"Mike Varney" <var...@collorado.edu> wrote in message news:ade8k2$2uo$1...@peabody.colorado.edu...> news:3CFA79F6...@attbi.com...> news:3CFA5966...@attbi.com...
> > > > Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
> > > > >
> <SNIP>
> > > You are somewhat less intelligent than I suspected.
> > > I estimate your IQ (FWIW) at a mere 125.
> > >
> > > Drawing attention to your counter is counter-productive ;-)
> > >
> > > Dirk Vdm
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > Apparently you think I read your posts or pay attention
> > to you or something.... even a dink head would know
> > better... you don't have anything of value to say.
>
> *blinks*
> And folks, Hammond has now won the award for the most stupid response yet.
mmmm yeah, estimate down to 124.
Dirk Vdm
Mike Varney
news:<3CFAA3EE...@hate.spam.net>...
> > George Hammond wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > > I'm looking pretty stupid...
> > [snip]
> >
> > You aways look ugly stooopid.
> >
> > You suffer TREMENDOUS civil liability if Varney can show damage to his
> > good name (your voluminous libelous postings) or personal loss
> > (compensatory and multiple punitive damages awarded by a jury; civil
> > ------------------
> uncle
> just have a look about the list of people who are defending Varny....
Learn to spell, dolt.
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Only the most sober, conservative, and oldest established
communities in the world, such as this one:
http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/ReverendHB.html
>
> > be careful about doing anything rash.
> > In controversial, dangerous and explosive matters... NOBODY,
> > I mean NOBODY, is about to say what they're really thinking...
> > except me.
>
> I think that you are a pontificating baboon.... really.
[Hammond]
Let me tell you something just between you, me
and the side of the wharf... you're so f---in
ignorant you're dangerous.
>
> > I'm the designated confessor bro. (or rather the theory
> > is a confession of faith by Science) and the name of
> > the game is this... the first one to take a serious shot at me
> > gets it, everybody will turn on him.
>
> Popular opinion states otherwise.
[Hammond]
What people say and what they think are two different
things.. especially in two rather broad classes of
people... 1. The oppressed, and 2. The oppressors.
the truth, you'll get from the people cited in the URL
I just listed above, whom are neither.
>
> > That's the
> > way it went down last time (2000 yrs ago)
>
> Suffering from a deity complex Hammond? You have done this before, correct?
[Hammond]
You engage in cheap shots... a sure lowbrow marker.
>
> >, and that's the way it's
> > going down this time... they're all looking for Judas Iscariot pal,
> > and don't ever forget it. Varney almost got the nomination, thank
> > christ he missed.
>
> Damn.
GH: Whew.... and BTW, I put a Site Meter counter on my page
that traces URL's. Right now my website is taking 300
hits/hour. If I discover that there all coming from one
domain, I'm going to be talking to Tech-Services at
U. Colorado again.
--
George Hammond
>
> "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:3CFAC513...@attbi.com...
> > franz heymann wrote:
> > >
> > > George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3CFA2D16...@attbi.com...
> > > > [Hammond]
> > > > PS: I have removed the counter from my website and will manually
> > > > update it based on the current statistics of 650 hits/day.
> > >
> > > Thanks for letting us know. I will of course remind the readers of your
> > > duplicity every time you mention anything to do with counters in any of
> > > your posts, and at random times when I feel like it.
> > >
> > > Franz Heymann
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > Get today's paper pal, you're behind the times. Somebody discovered
> > it was 10,000 members of FARK.com who hit my website in 24 hours,
> > it's still taking 250 hits/hour from it. It wasn't Varney. It was
> > real people, so I've put the counter back up.
>
> Do you perchance have a upload limit on your server dictating how much
> information can be delivered from your site?
GH: Are you shittin me, I've got AT&T cable broadband, whatever the
limit is, it's big enough for me to conquer the world. It's
already sustained 10,000 hits a day. Jesse James only had
6 shots.
George Hammond
Mike Varney, who claims that he is a graduate student
at U. Colorado is perpetrating a crime using the U. Colorado
email system. His email address is:
"Mike Varney" <var...@colorado.edu>
I suspect from his speech and education that he is a Philosophy
Major, Computer Science or something like that. Anyway, he is
clearly mentally unbalanced and may be in need of help. To publicly
post a "hacker" type program designed to personally attack someone's
website, and to publicly urge others to use it, and which can
materially flood an AT&T server, and prevent access to someone's
website, is clearly a communications crime to say nothing of
criminal harassment.
I instist that the U. Colorado Webmaster, email authorities, or
the Security Department have a chat with Mr. Varney and ask him
to explain why what he is doing is not a crime, and how it is
possibly witin the usage guidelines of the U. Colorado email system.
Mr. Varney is not rational, and appears to be out of touch with
reality, perhaps a thought disorder. naturally he considers himself
a genius, and believes he has a well thought out strategem of why
he is not guilty of criminal harassment and communications crimes.
Sincerely, George Hammond
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Mike Varney
Your ignorance is showing again Hammond. I am not talking about your
personal U/D limits, but the server limits that might be imposed on your web
page. You are already most likely limited to 60 meg of storage. Some
services limit the total amount of data transferred from your page to a
certain number of megs a day.
Ponder that for a while, dolt.
Mike Varney
> Mike Varney wrote:
> >
> > "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> > news:3CFAC44C...@attbi.com...
> > > Marco Nelissen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In sci.physics George Hammond <gham...@attbi.com> wrote:
> > > > > Faggetaboutit.... we got real trouble, 10,000 FARK.COM members
> > > > > have hit my website in the last 24 hours:
> > > >
> > > unlike you guys who are trying to murder me. You wanna watch
> > > you're goddamned step.. just because they're telling jokes about
> > > me over there, like "I hope Stephen Hawking gets up out of his
> > > wheel chair and strangles the guy"... the point is, they are
> > > the ONLY organized group of people who have taken notice of me...
> >
> > Not religion?
>
> [Hammond]
> Only the most sober, conservative, and oldest established
> communities in the world, such as this one:
Sorry, you have stated that FARK was the ONLY group to take notice... ONLY
is exclusive of any other group. Time to add logic to the skill you have
yet to acquire.
>
>
> >
> > > be careful about doing anything rash.
> > > In controversial, dangerous and explosive matters... NOBODY,
> > > I mean NOBODY, is about to say what they're really thinking...
> > > except me.
> >
> > I think that you are a pontificating baboon.... really.
>
> [Hammond]
> Let me tell you something just between you, me
> and the side of the wharf... you're so f---in
> ignorant you're dangerous.
The word you are groping for is "fucking", and since a little knowledge is
dangerous you must be the "fucking" walking plague.
> >
> > > I'm the designated confessor bro. (or rather the theory
> > > is a confession of faith by Science) and the name of
> > > the game is this... the first one to take a serious shot at me
> > > gets it, everybody will turn on him.
> >
> > Popular opinion states otherwise.
>
> [Hammond]
> What people say and what they think are two different
> things.. especially in two rather broad classes of
> people... 1. The oppressed, and 2. The oppressors.
> the truth, you'll get from the people cited in the URL
> I just listed above, whom are neither.
First you delineate people into ONLY two classes, then you say that these
people are in neither. Work on your logic skills idiot.
> >
> > > That's the
> > > way it went down last time (2000 yrs ago)
> >
> > Suffering from a deity complex Hammond? You have done this before,
correct?
>
> [Hammond]
> You engage in cheap shots... a sure lowbrow marker.
So, you acknowledge the fact that you suffer from a deity complex. Good
information to know for future reference.
> >
> > >, and that's the way it's
> > > going down this time... they're all looking for Judas Iscariot pal,
> > > and don't ever forget it. Varney almost got the nomination, thank
> > > christ he missed.
> >
> > Damn.
>
> GH: Whew.... and BTW, I put a Site Meter counter on my page
> that traces URL's. Right now my website is taking 300
> hits/hour. If I discover that there all coming from one
> domain, I'm going to be talking to Tech-Services at
> U. Colorado again.
You had better take a look then, imbecile. Also, if many people ran the
script from different domains, there is nothing for you to do but whine,
bitch and moan. Look at your counter and see how many sites were visited
for only 1 second, or zero seconds. What does that tell you, moron?
You are just too easy Hammond, you need to make it more challenging for me
or I might get bored with you.
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Christ, yuh Tom. I just realized Varney is a real mental case
and probably needs help. What he's doing at U. Colorado is beyond
me, I don't think he's sane enough to take an examination.
He manifests a strong idee fixe about his virus program and has just
posted a new updated version, exhorting people to join in with
him in commiting a communications crime against me and AT&T.
I have noticed he is completly devoid of humor, a serious psychotic
symptom. He may be on the verge of hurting himself or sommeone else.
I can only wonder what ab...@colorado.edu is making of all these complaints.
I have a funny feeling they already know about him. they may consider him
marginally dangerous.
>
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George Hammond
[Hammond]
Potter has your number Varney, and now I've got it. you're a serious
hate case, psychotic, that simple. What i know that Potter doesn't
know, is that there's no use talking to you, you're ready for
a psychiatrist, and are not listening to anything anyone is saying.
Sooner or later U. Colorado is going to call you on the virus
program you're publicly urging people to use, it's a CRIME pure
and simple. Look, DON'T FUCKIN HURT YOURSELF, get some help,
there is plenty of help for bad guys you know, it's only the good
guys who are f---ed when it comes to getting help. Look Varney,
if it's success that's bothering you, forget it, you're already a
success, you were born a success, that's your f---in problem.
So relax. it doesn't matter what the fuck you do as long as you
don't decide to attack people. Start trying to realize that you're
already a success by anyone's standards.
Mike Varney
> Dear ab...@colorado.edu:
LOL!
Here is the next script for you. I hope you like it Hammond, it was a group
effort.
If anyone else can offer any improvements to the program, please do not
hesitate to make changes and post the new code. Have fun all.
--- begin script---
# This program is designed to press buttons on Hammonds "physchometric" web
site.
# Use program at your own risk
import foobar
import dillhole
import time
a = 1
b = 0
while a > b:
print "Now flooding Hammonds site with 1000 posts a minute"
open.hammondsbrain()
dump.hammondsbrain(null)
getarise.from.hammond.html('http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/index.html')
2+2 =
flood.hammonds.email(sucker)
# This part will blow hammonds increment counter
while a > b:
add.hit() = hammonds.balls.SpOg => dev Null
connect.hammonds.balls-> electroshock.device
print "This should kill Hammonds Device"
# Implementation of Spam email flood to Hammonds FooBar account
# note, this will be untraceable.
print "Hammond is a moron crank with a deity complex"
print "boom"
End
--- End Script---
Mike Varney
<SNIP>
> [Hammond]
> Potter has your number Varney,
I doubt it as I have not published it.
> and now I've got it. you're a serious
> hate case, psychotic, that simple.
Please do not project your inadequacies on me as that would be
counterintuitive of your treatment régime.
> What i know that Potter doesn't
Since you are both imbeciles, mutually what you can claim is everything...
and vice-versa.
> know, is that there's no use talking to you
Then shut up.
>, you're ready for
> a psychiatrist, and are not listening to anything anyone is saying.
When you say something useful or intelligent, I might listen to you. Your
track record indicates I have a long wait.
> Sooner or later U. Colorado is going to call you on the virus
> program you're publicly urging people to use, it's a CRIME pure
> and simple.
Prove it, crackpot.
> Look, DON'T FUCKIN HURT YOURSELF
The only way I could hurt myself is by laughing at you too hard. I have to
admit Hammond, you have given my stomach muscles a good workout this last
few days, both from disgust and from laughter.
> , get some help,
I have, in the form of 2000 or more people using my pearl script.
> there is plenty of help for bad guys you know, it's only the good
> guys who are f---ed when it comes to getting help. Look Varney,
> if it's success that's bothering you, forget it, you're already a
> success, you were born a success, that's your f---in problem.
Hey Hammond, did they use this line on you in the sanitarium? Did it work
for you?
> So relax. it doesn't matter what the fuck you do as long as you
> don't decide to attack people. Start trying to realize that you're
> already a success by anyone's standards.
Elementary reverse psychology, huh Hammond? Add psychology to the skills
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Naw... like I say, nobodies mentioned it in the hundreds of posts
on FARK.com about my website, and they were hitting it at the rate
of 1,000 hits/hour. Besides, it's all text and B/W line drawings,
low bits/page... there isn't a color graphic on the entire site.
You can't run into any high numbers doing that.
David Evens
wrote:
>> > Lets see that's two criminal acts in a row. Obviously you are
>> > no a "PhD candidate at U. Colorado" or you'd be in jail by now.
>> > So... you're just a nobody computer hacker... possibly already in
>> > jail? I wonder how many of these other clowns that are harassing
>> > me are actually known criminals? Naturally this new threat will
>> > be forwarded to ab...@colorado.edu.
>>
>> If you think Varney is not at UC, why bother them with it?
>> Don't you have something better to do? Shouldn't you be working
>> on your book? It's due in december after all, and so far you've
>> got nothing...
>
>[Hammond]
>Whoa... somebody discovered that 10,000 FARK.COM members have
>hit my website in the past 24 hours, for confirmation see:
>
>http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845&ok=yes
>
>screw Varney.... this is real trouble... you know who they are
>don't you... Gengis Kahn's army, Fark has 270,000 members.
He hasn't actually LOOKED at what's on that site, has he?
Mike Varney
"David Evens" <dev...@technologist.com> wrote in message
news:3cfb2daf...@news.falls.igs.net...
No, but in his world he already has them pegged.
Mike Varney
Yo dolt, how about that color picture of that fruity looking old fart in
front of boarders?
David Evens
Most likely, he has a limit of 300 megs/month, and a 10 meg limit on
files. Why do I say that? I work for another of the former @Home
companies, and we KEPT those limits just as they had been for
@Home-provided web space. That should cut him off at a few thousand,
with the bulky pictures. He also doesn't seem to have noticed that
ALL posts about his web site are derisive. And that fark.com seems to
be entirely devoted to ridiculing the stupid.
David Evens
wrote:>> news:3CFA87B2...@attbi.com...
>>
>> [Snip]
>>
>> > I'm looking pretty stupid...
>>
>> catastrophe.
>>
>> Franz Heymann
>
>GH: "before!"... you better buy a helmut.
Now, where PRECISELY do you expect him to by a German man with
aparticular name?
David Evens
wrote:
Becomingobseesed with being a psychologist is, as it happens, a
classic complication for the long-term mental patient, like George.
> He manifests a strong idee fixe about his virus program and has just
>posted a new updated version, exhorting people to join in with
>him in commiting a communications crime against me and AT&T.
You have halucinated the entire incident you just described. Only
someone who is halucinating or VERY stupid could believe that what you
describe above has happened.
> I have noticed he is completly devoid of humor, a serious psychotic
>symptom. He may be on the verge of hurting himself or sommeone else.
>I can only wonder what ab...@colorado.edu is making of all these complaints.
Probably laughing themselves sick, if they bother to read on after the
first irrational delusion they find.
>I have a funny feeling they already know about him. they may consider him
>marginally dangerous.
You mean, like your ISP's abuse department does?
(I sent my first LART at someone today. I'm going to monitor for the
effects. LARTing George would probably be more fun, but...)
George Hammond
>
> > Look, DON'T FUCKIN HURT YOURSELF
>
> The only way I could hurt myself is by laughing at you too hard. I have to
> admit Hammond, you have given my stomach muscles a good workout this last
> few days, both from disgust and from laughter.
>
> > , get some help,
>
> I have, in the form of 2000 or more people using my pearl script.
[Hammond]
You're a f---in psycho. I've checked the Site meter Statistics
readout, and NO ONE is hitting the site more than 2 or 3 times a day,
thousands of different individual people, and their IP ADDRESSES
listed right along with the number of times they've hit the site.
You're so psychotic you have delusions of granduer where "2000"
people are in league with you in commiting a crime... you're fu----
basket case.. how a guy your age (27) could be as crazy as
you is a joke... snap out of it.
>
> > there is plenty of help for bad guys you know, it's only the good
> > guys who are f---ed when it comes to getting help. Look Varney,
> > if it's success that's bothering you, forget it, you're already a
> > success, you were born a success, that's your f---in problem.
>
> Hey Hammond, did they use this line on you in the sanitarium? Did it work
> for you?
[Hammond]
You know what i'm talking about... you're a borderline nut
just like I am... but you don't have the resiliancy of
a poverty stricken and abusive background that I have which
is practilly the only form of insurance against insanity
there is; I'm here to tell you.
>
> > So relax. it doesn't matter what the fuck you do as long as you
> > don't decide to attack people. Start trying to realize that you're
> > already a success by anyone's standards.
>
> Elementary reverse psychology, huh Hammond? Add psychology to the skills
> you have yet to acquire.
[Hammond]
Yeah... it's reverse all right... I'm the reverse of you.
... you know... interestingly, I'm not the exact (180-degree)
reverse of you personality wise, we're 90-degrees apart,
but that's enough of an "opposite" to cause a big
aggrevation problem.
George Hammond
[Hammond]
Don't get smart psycho, you've posted dummy scripts like the
one above, but my guess is the original one was a working
script and now you're trying to cover your tracks.. just a
guess.
BTW, I have a Site Meter on my webpage and can read the
IP address of anyone that hits it, and if I see someone
hitting it 1000 times a day or even 100, it'll stand out like a sore
thumb and the guy's computer will be identified immediately,
and he'll be talking to the authorities at AT&T about why
he's flooding their server. And his ISP will be informed of
it too and it's obviously a TOS violation.
--
George Hammond
>
> >
> > GH: Whew.... and BTW, I put a Site Meter counter on my page
> > that traces URL's. Right now my website is taking 300
> > hits/hour. If I discover that there all coming from one
> > domain, I'm going to be talking to Tech-Services at
> > U. Colorado again.
>
> You had better take a look then, imbecile. Also, if many people ran the
> script from different domains, there is nothing for you to do but whine,
> bitch and moan.
[Hammond]
Makes no difference how many people run it, their IP ADDRESS
SHOWS UP IMMEDIATLY along with how many hits from their address.
Their ISP will shut of their service for a TOS violation.
You're a psycho Varney, and U.Colorado is breathing down your
neck (ab...@colorado.edu). Only another psycho like you would run that
script and he'd have to hit the thing 1000 times a day since the
site is taking 8,000 legitimate hits/day anyway. Anybody hitting my
website 1000 times a day is going to be quickly identified and
his ISP will shut him off for a TOS violation (harassment).
Look at your counter and see how many sites were visited
> for only 1 second, or zero seconds. What does that tell you, moron?
[Hammond]
Who gives a f---... do you know what you would have to know
to be able to comprehend the theory... (unless you're a
normal person like:
http://home.attbi.com/~ghammond/ReverendHB.html )
but they only represent .001% of the population... the rest of
you are screwballs, especially academics, most of all the
Internet crowd.
it's so far over your head it's a joke. Talking to a line professional
PhD is like talking to a friggin accountant. 10 million people
will have to hear about this (and not know what it is) before I
can get the attention of somebody like the Pontifical Academy of Sciences
who have "half a chance" of knowing what it is.
for christs sake, Jesus had to talk to 100,000 people in person before
he could talk to Herod, who is probably the only person who knew
who he was, asswipe.
that's why i have to go thru a million of you dumb fu--s in
order to reach them. You're just a pawn on a chessboard as----e.
And don't get nasty... I don't trust psycho's, they have a
one track mind and there's no talking to them, the only thing that
works is law enforcement... and that's headed your way sucker.
> You are just too easy Hammond, you need to make it more challenging for me
> or I might get bored with you.
[Hmmond]
You're so boring it's pathetic... a lowbrow who thinks writing
computer scripts is "intellectual"... moron.
Martin Gradwell
..
> [Hammond]
>.... I'm still reeling from the timing coincidence
> which lead me to believe Varney's hoax was actually real (I can't
> read Perl).
Most of your recent hits will have been from fark.com,
but Varney's "hoax" was an absolutely genuine program
that does what he said it does.
Nobody can read perl without centuries of training - it's
a practically incomprehensible "write-only" language, for
hackers only - but Varney's program was in Python, a
language so clear and straightforward that even I can use it.
Just look at it, guess what it does, and your guess will be
right - there are no surprises in Python, apart from the
Spanish Inquisition.
Just to be certain that it didn't contain any syntax errors,
I've tried running it, but against one of my own sites so
that it wouldn't upset your hit counter. It works.
The first version prints out the text of the web page it
is directed at, so Varney could have tried pretending
that it was a crude web browser, doing just what IE or
Netscape does (but doing it repeatedly, to one site only
- I don't think that defence would have held much water).
But the second verion reads a web page repeatedly and
doesn't even bother to display the contents of the page.
The hash at the start of the "# print hitclick" line means
that this line has been commented out, and does nothing.
..
> Anyway... if Varney's Perl script was a hoax... or if no one is
> actually using it... I'm looking pretty stupid... anyway, I put
> my counter back and updated it 10,000 hits based on the FARK numbers
> and the fact it was taking 200 hits an hour when I shut it off.
If you can get hold of logs for your website from attbi, it will be easy to
recognise which hits are from python scripts. They will probably
look something like
nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn - - [03/Jun/2002:10:28:02 +0100]
"GET /subdirname/pagename.htm HTTP/1.1" 200
7110 "-" "Python-urllib/1.15"
- the mention of Python is a dead giveaway. Genuine hits will
mention a browser, usually mozilla and/or MSIE. That's why
Varney is talking about writing a program which automatically
invokes a proper browser at regular intervals.
Martin Gradwell, mtgra...@btinternet.com
Martin Gradwell
>
> "George Hammond" <gham...@attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:3CFB0505...@attbi.com...
> > Mike Varney wrote:
> > > Do you perchance have a upload limit on your server dictating how much
> > > information can be delivered from your site?
> >
> > GH: Are you shittin me, I've got AT&T cable broadband, whatever the
> > limit is, it's big enough for me to conquer the world. It's
> > already sustained 10,000 hits a day. Jesse James only had
> > 6 shots.
>
> Your ignorance is showing again Hammond. I am not talking about your
> personal U/D limits, but the server limits that might be imposed on your
web
> page. You are already most likely limited to 60 meg of storage. Some
> services limit the total amount of data transferred from your page to a
> certain number of megs a day.
> Ponder that for a while, dolt.
Your admission that you realise that service providers impose
limits on traffic shows that you knew what you were doing when
you published your program and publicly urged others to use
it against Hammond's website.
You appear to be under the mistaken impression that the
University of Colorado cares nothing about its reputation.
A University that has no reputation has nothing. They will
be making this fact clear to you real soon now. Either that,
or they will be closing down.
Ponder that.
Martin Gradwell, mtgra...@btinternet.com
Martin Gradwell
Dirk Van de moortel <dirkvand...@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:jdCK8.11148$ud....@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
..
> Another guy Potter just jumped in, asking for his share.
> Look: he just declared (or did he merely suggest it?):
>
> | "If I were in the states, I would welcome an opportunity to sue
> | or counter sue Varney, that is if he has any assets worth going
after.
> | If he didn't have assets, I would visit him personally,
> | and discuss his problem."
>
> Dirty isn't it? But no problem with dirty, as long as it's funny.
> The problem is that he is actually serious about it and it wasn't
> intended to be funny at all.
You think that usenet isn't the same as the real world, so
that you can do anything you like in usenet, and the real
world isn't affected? Wrong! Note, though, that Potter was
just speaking hypothetically. He doesn't live in the states,
and he doesn't intend to sue Varney, or to visit him personally.
Varney is a different matter. He asked where Hammond
lived, and the person he asked was stupid enough to provide
an answer. I find that worrying.
Martin Gradwell, mtgra...@btinternet.com
franz heymann
[Snip]
> Varny
Varney
> has lowerd the standard of thread to a lower
> than whore hose or a drunk pub level
On the contrary, he has injected a very welcome bit of life into it.
Franz Heymann
franz heymann
> > > Mike Simons wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just yesterday, the community of Fark.com took notice of
hammond's site.
> > > > http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=196845
> > >
> > > JUMPED UP JESUS!!--- I just checked that FARK URL and it says
8,822
> > people
> > > have hit my website in the past 24 hours.
> > > I don't know who the christ they are but I've never heard of
them....
> > > UNTIL NOW.
> > > You mean it WASN'T MIVE VARNEY'S "Perl script" that was hitting
my
> > > website... it was "FARK"...??????
> >
> > Python script, imbecile.
> > And how do you know they did not use the Python script? *chuckle*
>
> [Hammond]
> Actually it did 10,000 hits in about 12 hours... that's 4 times
> a second,
Oh?
> a computer can't refresh that fast. Beside's it's not
> FARK's style... they don't like dirty jokes or dirty tricks.
> And, there are hundreds of postings on Fark about the website.
>
> >
> > >
> > > > That means 10,000 hits in one day. And Hammond attributed it to
Varney,
> > for
> > > > better or for worse.
> > > > (What timing, eh?)
> > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > Sure is uncanny timing.... I was sure it was Varney... what
> > > else could it be.... a miracle?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thousands of readers who can hardly agree on any issue
unanimously
> > laughed
> > > > Hammond out of town.
> > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > Sounds like nervous laughter to me... I haven't checked into their
> > > statements yet.... I'm still reeling from the timing coincidence
> > > which lead me to believe Varney's hoax was actually real (I can't
> > > read Perl).
> >
> > Python, dolt. You cannot read english as well. (or math, or
physics...)
>
> GH: I'm afraid of snakes too, big time.
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > How does that make you feel Hammond? Get a better wecounter,
idiot.
> > I'll
> > > > give you a hint: www.sitemeter.com; they'll tell you the most
recent
> > > > reffering URLs. You might have known where these hits came
from, and it
> > > > would have been great to see you join in on the discussion.
> > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > What good would it do to try to talk to 10,000 people?
> >
> > Jeebus did a good job. Millions of Moslems claim hearing the divine
word
> > each day.
> >
> > > Anyway.... here I am out here dealing with race hatred, class
> > > warfare, the Jews vs. the Nazis, Atheistic Communism vs.
Democracy,
> > > Nuclear War, .... they'll have to shoot thru me to hit you
> > > ya know..... and you computer/internet experts can't even
> > > spare 2 seconds to tell me about something like Fark or Sitemeter,
> > > .... whaddau think this is you're watching a one man baseball
game
> > > or something?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > And to Mike Varney, I hope you can use this information if
someone makes
> > an
> > > > inquiry about your non-existent "perl" program. (BTW Hammond,
it's
> > usually
> > > > called a perl script.)
> > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > I wouldn't know Perl or an IP address from the Bianchi
Identities
> > > or the Trinity.....
> >
> > We know.
> >
> > > Anyway... if Varney's Perl script was a hoax... or if no one is
> > > actually using it... I'm looking pretty stupid...
> >
> > So what's new?
> >
> > > anyway, I put
> > > my counter back and updated it 10,000 hits based on the FARK
numbers
> > > and the fact it was taking 200 hits an hour when I shut it off.
> > > Thanks for giving me some straight dope... everybody talks to me
> > > in Parables
> >
> > Here is a parable for you: You are stupid.
>
> GH: Here's a parable for you: You are smart.
Franz Heymann
Tom Potter
"David Evens" <dev...@technologist.com> wrote in message
news:3cfb33e3...@news.falls.igs.net...
As I posted above:
"Varney is a disgrace to society, and has shifted the central
topic of this newsgroup from physics, to name calling.
He has done this,
by exploiting the prejudices and hatred latent in some people,
He comes right out, and says nasty, uncivilized comments about someone,
and the dog pack uses this as a trigger to rush in."
Note that although David Evens has been exploited by Varney,
and joined in the dog pack attacks,
I bet normally, he is a real nice, sane, civilized guy.
It is amazing what happens to dogs and sharks,
and some uncivilized humans,
when they smell blood.
--
Tom Potter http://home.earthlink.net/~tdp
Tom Potter
"Martin Gradwell" <mtgra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:adfl6s$kha$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
I wasn't speaking hypothetically.
I have sued several companies, and government employees,
including policemen and judges, when it was clear that
they were in the wrong, and arrogant about it.
In one case, I, my manager, and a few of my employees,
all sued a head hunting firm that was trying to recruit some
of my best people, in different courts, at different times.
We cost them a lot of time and money, not to mention
sleep and tension, and drove them out of business.
But when I have a disagreement with a person,
first, I confront them personally and try to settle
the problem in a civil way, but if they want a fight,
that's okay with me, as I put morality, justice and civility
far ahead of time and money.
I get back to America occasionally, and will
be looking forward to meeting Varney at Colorado U,
and see if we can work out his problem in a civil way.
(Unless Frazir beats me to him.)
I believe in "turning the other cheek" a few times,
but at some point, the good folks have to take a stand,
or the bullies (physical and psychological) will corrupt a society,
as Varney has corrupted sci.physics.
George Hammond
[Hammond]
I'm going to frame that statement and put it on the wall.
I think Varney has been working too hard on his PhD and
is getting streched... the guy (I'm twice his age BTW)
obviously has an pseudo-psychotic overlay that needs
dumping. He needs a good analyst to explain to him
who he really is and that he is a valuable person, has
extrodinary talent, is slated to be successful, and can
relax about his true identity and even have some fun in
life. If he trys to sustain this (recent I think) attitude
overlay of his he's going to get in trouble. He's young
enough to make a serious course correction, and I think he
should.
BTW, I hope he realizes that a guy like me has been
all through it... and my internet persona (at age 60) is
obviously an act designed to disarm serious and dangerous nuts
whom I have to deal with (not him, he's not dangerous, he's
just aggrevating).
franz heymann
One hell of a lot more intellectual than the mouthings of one who
believes that some stupid psychological correlation coefficients
transform like a tensor.
Franz Heymann