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2003-09-27 - Summary of mozilla.org staff meeting

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Gervase Markham

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Nov 5, 2003, 7:05:00 PM11/5/03
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2003-09-27 - Summary of mozilla.org staff meeting
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Present: mitchell, dbaron, blizzard, scc, bart, brendan, dawn, ben, myk,
leaf.

*1.5.1 Release*

- Should respin mac builds for Bug 217121, which has been fixed.
- localeVersion needs to remain the same as for 1.5, so localizations
will work (leaf)
- Should be able to release this week.

*1.6a Release*

- Issues with windows release build creation, could delay release a day
or two.
- Final (?) fixes going in today, should allow for candidate creation
tomorrow and release to follow.

*Website Update*

- dbaron, dawn making excellent progress on buglist.
- Meeting tomorrow with primary parties to finalize bugs to finish
before release. (dbaron, bart, dawn, ben, chofmann)

*CD*

- Re-master 1.5 CD, including localizations when we get them and 1.5.1
mac.
- Timetable depends on localizations; guess is 2 weeks.

*Localizations*

- Localizations ought to be automatically produced when possible (leaf
to investigate)
- Leaf to talk with Andreas about getting localized bits when automated
builds not possible.
- localeVersion shouldn't be tied to milestone version, for cases like
beta->final (leaf filed bug 223884)

*Download logs*

- Myk has made some progress gathering data, still blocked on getting
access logs from mirrors.

Leaf

Boris Zbarsky

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Nov 5, 2003, 7:35:46 PM11/5/03
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Gervase Markham wrote:
> - Should respin mac builds for Bug 217121, which has been fixed.

I'm sorry, but this seems to be incredibly backwards. A crash that
happened when you clicked on any link that the browser could not handle
was not respin-worthy, but this is? Both bugs are 10.1-only (according
to the 2003-11-03 minutes), so it's not like one affected more users
than the other...

Also, OSX 10.1 was released in late 2001. This makes it newer than all
but the newest Windows version... I suspect the number of users of OSX
10.1 is fairly high as a fraction of total OSX users; the problem is
that Mozilla developers don't use it (the fact that our build
instructions say we don't build on OSX 10.1 may have something to do
with that).

-Boris

Alex Bishop

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Nov 5, 2003, 10:00:49 PM11/5/03
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These minutes are actually for Monday 27th October, right?

Alex

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Gervase Markham

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Nov 6, 2003, 5:20:53 AM11/6/03
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Boris Zbarsky wrote:

> Gervase Markham wrote:
>> - Should respin mac builds for Bug 217121, which has been fixed.
>
> I'm sorry, but this seems to be incredibly backwards.

Note that I wasn't present at this meeting; chofmann or asa are the best
people to contact about this.

Gerv

Gervase Markham

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Nov 6, 2003, 5:20:18 AM11/6/03
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Alex Bishop wrote:

> These minutes are actually for Monday 27th October, right?

Yep.

Gerv

Chris Hofmann

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Nov 6, 2003, 8:51:13 PM11/6/03
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Boris Zbarsky wrote:

> Gervase Markham wrote:
>
>> - Should respin mac builds for Bug 217121, which has been fixed.
>
>
> I'm sorry, but this seems to be incredibly backwards. A crash that
> happened when you clicked on any link that the browser could not
> handle was not respin-worthy, but this is?

The main main forcing function for the Mac 1.5.1 respin was indeed the
crash related to
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213639

That should have been listed in the meeting notes.. 213639 has landed
on the branch and will be picked up in the release

http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=MOZILLA_1_5_BRANCH&branchtype=match&dir=&file=&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=month&mindate=&maxdate=&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot

> Both bugs are 10.1-only (according to the 2003-11-03 minutes), so it's
> not like one affected more users than the other...
>
> Also, OSX 10.1 was released in late 2001. This makes it newer than
> all but the newest Windows version... I suspect the number of users
> of OSX 10.1 is fairly high as a fraction of total OSX users; the
> problem is that Mozilla developers don't use it (the fact that our
> build instructions say we don't build on OSX 10.1 may have something
> to do with that).
>
> -Boris

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Chris Hofmann

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Nov 6, 2003, 8:51:13 PM11/6/03
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Boris Zbarsky wrote:

> Gervase Markham wrote:
>
>> - Should respin mac builds for Bug 217121, which has been fixed.
>
>
> I'm sorry, but this seems to be incredibly backwards. A crash that
> happened when you clicked on any link that the browser could not
> handle was not respin-worthy, but this is?

The main main forcing function for the Mac 1.5.1 respin was indeed the

crash related to
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213639

That should have been listed in the meeting notes.. 213639 has landed
on the branch and will be picked up in the release

http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=MOZILLA_1_5_BRANCH&branchtype=match&dir=&file=&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=month&mindate=&maxdate=&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot

> Both bugs are 10.1-only (according to the 2003-11-03 minutes), so it's

> not like one affected more users than the other...
>
> Also, OSX 10.1 was released in late 2001. This makes it newer than
> all but the newest Windows version... I suspect the number of users
> of OSX 10.1 is fairly high as a fraction of total OSX users; the
> problem is that Mozilla developers don't use it (the fact that our
> build instructions say we don't build on OSX 10.1 may have something
> to do with that).
>
> -Boris

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