RV Microwave Question
HHamp5246
I saw a microwave I really want to install in my trailer. I have one now, but
the new one has lots more features.
Someone on my Airstream list seems to think the microwaves used in RVs are
different from house ones... they are built to with stand life on the road. I
donlt think that's true, but I figger I'd better check.
Also, how much air space do they need?
The one I have now is built in with a small strip vent above it.
Hunter
One@home.com Wade
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considerable more power determined by the watt rating your ventilation
should be fine.
Wade
HHamp5246
>considerable more power determined by the watt rating your ventilation
>should be fine.
That's what I thought...... someone did recommend a place that makes trim...if
anyone is interested.
Hunter
STEVEBRAU
>I saw a microwave I really want to install in my trailer. I have one now,
>but the new one has lots more features.
>Someone on my Airstream list seems to think the microwaves used in RVs are
>different from house ones... they are built to with stand life on the road.
>I donlt think that's true, but I figger I'd better check.
I have seen the same models in RVs for sale in retail outlets, the one we have
being an example. Might I suggest that if you're going to change, why not look
at the combination convection/microwaves? You can do a lot more with them. MOF,
the range in our house is a combo unit as well as the MH - they work very well.
Steve
Janet Wilder
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They are the same. My King of the Road had a Sharp Carousel just like I had
in the house. The difference is that the RV ones have a sleeve (may be your
strip vent) that the microwaves fit into. The sleeve usually has some sort of
venting system involved. When I bought the Newmar, I upgraded the standard
Dometic for a factory offered Sharp Carousel.
Janet
The Road Princess
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AINut
microwave is vastly underpowered -- it won't even pop popcorn
correctly. My wife and I were talking about trying to replace it but
couldn't find out if anyone still makes them. Ours is quite wide. Any
ideas where to find them, with the microwave section at least 1100 or
1200 watts?
Thanks,
AI Nut
Neon John
RichA wrote:
> No difference I can see except that *some* of the ones in RV's
> aren't as big as ones used in homes. I bought one for a TT I had that
> didn't have one and I never had any problems with it and that was just
> sitting in a cabinet, not held down. In fact I sold the TT and still
> have the microwave. Our other TT had a Sharpe model it came with that
> I've seen for sale in places like Wal Mart. The one we have now in
> the MH is a combination microwave/convection oven, that we like a lot
> and it's big!
I use a bunch of microwaves in the restaurant and run through them fairly
quickly so I have my ear close to the ground.
Sam's seems to always have the best price for the models they carry.
If it will fit, I highly recommend taking a look at the Panasonic Inverter
line. I just bought a couple and, naturally, had to take one apart to see how
it works. Instead of a heavy line-operated transformer, there is a small
switchmode power supply similar to what is used in a PC except that it makes
the high voltage the magnetron needs. The major advantages for RVers are that
they are much lighter and because the supply is regulated, it maintains the
rated power even on low voltage. It runs just fine on inverters, even cheapo
2 step modified square wave ones. Finally, there is no hum.
John
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Cleveland, occupied TN
William Miller
year - it is without question the best micro I've ever used. Has a great
"sensor reheat" position. Lots of power. Only issue is the size - seems
pretty big for RV use, but if I could fit it in, I'd love to have one in the
trailer instead of the little cheapie that's there.
Bill Miller
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Neon John
William Miller wrote:
>
> John, I bought one of the Panasonic "Inverter" micros for my home last
> year - it is without question the best micro I've ever used. Has a great
> "sensor reheat" position. Lots of power. Only issue is the size - seems
> pretty big for RV use, but if I could fit it in, I'd love to have one in the
> trailer instead of the little cheapie that's there.
I've seen the inverter oven in smaller sizes than the huge one that Sam's
sells. I just can't remember where. I don't shop much so it's probably
Target.
I'm giving VERY serious thought to gutting a new inverter oven and putting the
guts in my current low power oven in the RV. The inverter board is much
smaller than the existing transformer and I can do without the digital
dashboard (a simple timer will do.) This should be a simple bolt-in job, as
the magnetron dimensions are somewhat standard.
John
Tom J
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> The combo microwave/convection over in our MH still works fine, but the
> microwave is vastly underpowered -- it won't even pop popcorn
> correctly. My wife and I were talking about trying to replace it but
> couldn't find out if anyone still makes them. Ours is quite wide. Any
> ideas where to find them, with the microwave section at least 1100 or
> 1200 watts?
Place a cup of water in the microwave and turn to high for 3 minutes. If
it doesn't boil water, as well as not pop corn, there may be a simple fix.
There is a rubber band (belt) on the "microwave stirrer" on most microwave
ovens. When it gets stretched or broken things don't work right. Pull
the outside case off, being sure to stay clear of all wiring (there is
high voltage even when not plugged in), and you will find the fan
(stirrer) at the top with a small motor aligned up with it. Most any
microwave independent dealer will have these "belts".
Tom J
Neon John
Tom J wrote:
> Place a cup of water in the microwave and turn to high for 3 minutes. If
> it doesn't boil water, as well as not pop corn, there may be a simple fix.
>
> There is a rubber band (belt) on the "microwave stirrer" on most microwave
> ovens. When it gets stretched or broken things don't work right. Pull
> the outside case off, being sure to stay clear of all wiring (there is
> high voltage even when not plugged in), and you will find the fan
> (stirrer) at the top with a small motor aligned up with it. Most any
> microwave independent dealer will have these "belts".
Don't be surprised if you don't find this config in modern ovens. None of my
ovens that contain turntables have stirrers. And for the ones that do have
stirrers, all are driven by the magnetron cooling air being directed against
their blades. The bearing will muck up from food residue and prevent rotation
so cleaning may help. A stuck stirrer will not, however, reduce the power
output. The most usual cause of low power I've found in my ovens is the high
voltage diode in the voltage doubler getting leaky. There's only one diode
(black, usually square tubular device) in each oven so it's easy to find and
only costs a few bux to replace.
I have had a few ovens lose power via worn out magnetrons but the more usual
magnetron failure is catastrophic via an open filament. Actually, the
microwave part rarely fails. The most common failures in order are the
pinball dash and the latch/interlock on the door. When the pinnball dash
dies, I simply remove it and replace it with a spring wound 15 minute timer
from Home Depot. Simple and employee proof.
Fred & Sandra Mueller
Microwave Popcorn. I make it all the time. You must use a glass or ceramic
piepan and then set the popcorn bag on top of that. Microwave for about 3
minutes 20 seconds...perfect popcorn every time.
Sandy
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Fred & Sandra Mueller
I have not seen that model anywhere. I had mine fixed once this year and I
had decided when it breaks again I would just like to replace it with a new
one, but the same kind. I love the Convection feature and we bake
everything in it. We never, ever use our oven.
Sandy
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Lone Haranguer
My wife hated the damned thing. True, it IS a versatile cooker when
plugged into juice but near useless when boondocking. She was happy to
have a gas oven back. If you also have a gas oven, then go for it.
LZ
Jim Walker
GenAir microwave that wouldn't pop popcorn, but it did heat other things
well. I looked at the turntable which was metal and decided that it created
a point where there was no microwave energy since the turntable reflected
the microwaves. The popcorn absorbs microwaves on the bottom of the package
right next to the turntable. Putting a dish upside-down under the popcorn
made the microwave oven perform normally. A dumb design which I trust will
be discontinued or already has been discontinued.
--
Jim Walker
Northern Virginia
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HHamp5246
Walker" <walk...@worldnet.att.net.net> writes:
> I looked at the turntable which was metal and decided that it created
>a point where there was no microwave energy since the turntable reflected
>the microwaves.
I thought you couldn't put metal anythings in the microwave.... yet the
manufacturer did???
Hunter
AINut
characteristic the whole time we've owned it. We are the 2nd owners
so...
Aside: We did some component level repair to one of it's circuit boards
when we bought the coach. The part (a capacitor, I think) cost us $6 to
replace versus the entire circuit board at $180 and was no longer in
production.
AI Nut
Jim Walker
in the microwave, but not a fork. Reason is that the fork has pointed tines
and sparks are created from the points. Rounded surfaces don't arc and
don't even get hot. Eventually we will use all of out physics on this NG.
--
Jim Walker
Northern Virginia
bill horne
The manual for my 15-year old microwave says I can put foil-tray TV
dinners in it as long as the tray is not more than 3/4" deep, and care
is taken to ensure it doesn't touch the sides of the oven.
For those who are tempted to exclaim, "Oh golly! What about the bottom
of the oven?", I answer that my nuker has a glass rotating platform.
And since I'm prone to test things, I tested, and then proceeded to
nuke, over the years, foil trayed pot pies with sides higher than 3/4".
Neither I, my pot pies, nor my microwave has yet been fried like a bug.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
bill horne
Another possible squatless theory - if my microwave is typical. I just
took a bowl of water, put a fork in it, handle down, tines sticking up
in the air, and nuked it. The water got hot, and the fork got warm.
There were no fireworks or other unusual events.
Jim Walker
--
Jim Walker
Northern Virginia
Bill Turner
>I thought you couldn't put metal anythings in the microwave.... yet the
>manufacturer did???
>
>Hunter
_________________________________________________________
As a long-time radio guy, maybe I can clear up some of the microwave
mystery.
Microwaves bounce around inside the oven kind of like ripples in a pond.
They reflect off the four walls and the top and bottom, back and forth
until they are finally absorbed by something. At some points inside,
the waves will add together and become stronger, at other points they
cancel and become weaker or nonexistent. If you could somehow "see"
microwaves, you'd see a confusing pattern of hot spots and cold spots
all over the inside of the oven. The pattern is NOT nice and uniform
like we wish it would be. This is why all microwave ovens have some
means of varying the pattern that the food "sees", either a turntable or
some means of stirring the microwaves themselves, such as a fan which
breaks up the pattern. Unfortunately, neither method is perfect; hot
and cold spots will always exist.
Because of this unevenness, two different experiments may yield
different results. One person puts a piece of metal inside and nothing
happens. Another does the same thing and sparks fly. Having a large
amount of food or water inside will cause most of the microwaves to be
absorbed, like they should be, and the effect of stray metal will be
minimized. Likewise, having a small amount of food and a large piece of
metal will increase the chances of arcing and damage. This is why you
can get conflicting opinions on whether metal inside is harmful or not.
Generally, I'd recommend avoiding metal inside. At worst, it can cause
damage to the magnetron (the thing that generates the microwaves) and at
least, it will reflect some of the microwaves, possibly shading the food
and causing cold spots.
Hope this helps.
Bill, W7TI
bill horne
>
> Try the experiment without the water.
>
> --
> Jim Walker
I don't ever run the MW dry. Even when I tested the alleged
indestructibility of the common roach, I put some water in there - soup
or a piece of bread didn't seem appropriate or necessary.
Under what conditions would I put a spoon or fork in a MW without a
liquid or food in it also? I don't have much reason to nuke a spoon or
fork by itself, but it's entirely possible that I might inadvertantly
leave a spoon or fork in somthing I was nuking, and I'm satisfied that
if I do, I'm not going to have a fireworks display. I'm hesitant to
stick ANY metal in there by itself, whether it be a fork or a steel
ball.
Janet Wilder
Birch) writes:
>>On 25 Jan 2002 01:47:04 GMT, hham...@aol.comnospam (HHamp5246) wrote:
>>I thought you couldn't put metal anythings in the microwave.... yet the
>>manufacturer did???
>
>Try placing in it, anything with gold trim (i.e. real gold), and you'll
>be entertained just a bit short of the 4th of July!
>
Once, when I lived in a house on a foundation, we tried to dry a newspaper in
the microwave. Something in the newsprint make that sucker spark like crazy.
bill horne
Ok, I overcame my hesitancy. I put a fork in there with nothing else. No
fireworks.
bill horne
>
> >On 25 Jan 2002 01:47:04 GMT, hham...@aol.comnospam (HHamp5246) wrote:
> >manufacturer did???
>
> be entertained just a bit short of the 4th of July!
I tried my wedding band. No sparks.
No black pyramids, either.
Jim Walker
There was nothing of the kind from a spoon. If your microwave doesn't show
arcing with a fork, then you should at least see some heating of the tines.
On the other hand, a spoon will remain cool.
--
Jim Walker
Northern Virginia
Tom J
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> Stan Birch wrote:
> >
> > >On 25 Jan 2002 01:47:04 GMT, hham...@aol.comnospam (HHamp5246)
wrote:
> > >I thought you couldn't put metal anythings in the microwave.... yet
the
> > >manufacturer did???
> >
> > Try placing in it, anything with gold trim (i.e. real gold), and
you'll
> > be entertained just a bit short of the 4th of July!
>
> I tried my wedding band. No sparks.
Is it still working? :-)
Tom J
One@home.com Wade
> No black pyramids, either.
>
Considering what this has degenerated to, it is rather obvious in the
absence of black pyramids that your oven does not function correctly.
Wade
bill horne
>
> All I can say is that I did get some arcing from a fork when I tried it.
> There was nothing of the kind from a spoon. If your microwave doesn't show
> arcing with a fork, then you should at least see some heating of the tines.
> On the other hand, a spoon will remain cool.
> --
> Jim Walker
This seems to be a neverending test. My fork got warm. My wedding band
got warm. Since the tine test and the gold test produced no arcing, I
saw no reason to try a spoon.
Now that "warm" is a new criterion, I'll try a spoon later tonight.
Should I put the spoon in by itself, or with a fork? Is the composition
and weight of the spoon a factor? How long must I nuke it for it to be a
valid test? For that matter, how long must a fork be nuked before it
begins to spark? How important is ambient humidity or air density?
I'd like to get all the test requirements nailed down once and for all,
for one or two final tests. I don't want to make a career out of nuking
tableware and jewelry in my so far unsuccessful quest for the Elusive
Spark. Nor do I want to risk trashing my MW with daily spoon nukings -
if nuking spoons Will trash a MW. I don't even know that for sure. There
are some things I'm willing to test to destruction, but my MW is not one
of them.
bill horne
I guess so - I'm still married.
Neon John
The tuning of the fork to get a resonant loop (necessary to get sufficient
voltage for an arc) is fairly critical. You can vary the tuning by either
trimming the tines or simply spreading them. A wavelength at 10.525 ghz (the
approximate operating frequency) is 2.85 cm so if the length around the loop
is kept to a multiple of that, the arcing will be at its best.
It WILL arc. I have a little show that I put on for visitors to my shop that
I call "fun with microwaves". Making a fork arc is one of the tricks. Here's
another:
http://personal.cha.bellsouth.net/cha/j/o/johngd/files/neon/micro_nuke.jpg
That's a 1.25 liter glass bulb filled with neon gas and excited by a microwave
oven magnetron operating in free air.
John
--
bill horne
>
> (Bill, I know you revel in ignorance of theory so ignore this post)
Where'd you get that idea?
> The tuning of the fork to get a resonant loop (necessary to get sufficient
> voltage for an arc) is fairly critical. You can vary the tuning by either
> trimming the tines or simply spreading them. A wavelength at 10.525 ghz (the
> approximate operating frequency) is 2.85 cm so if the length around the loop
> is kept to a multiple of that, the arcing will be at its best.
>
> It WILL arc. I have a little show that I put on for visitors to my shop that
> I call "fun with microwaves". Making a fork arc is one of the tricks. Here's
> another:
Well, I've lucked out again. Not only did I make it through my last trip
without getting squashed like a bug, I now find that I possess detuned,
microwavable forks. I think I'll start buying lottery tickets.
> http://personal.cha.bellsouth.net/cha/j/o/johngd/files/neon/micro_nuke.jpg
>
> That's a 1.25 liter glass bulb filled with neon gas and excited by a microwave
> oven magnetron operating in free air.
>
> John
--
Technobarbarian
> It WILL arc. I have a little show that I put on for visitors to my shop
that
> I call "fun with microwaves". Making a fork arc is one of the tricks.
Here's
> another:
>
> http://personal.cha.bellsouth.net/cha/j/o/johngd/files/neon/micro_nuke.jpg
>
> That's a 1.25 liter glass bulb filled with neon gas and excited by a
microwave
> oven magnetron operating in free air.
Well none of this is as classy as John's tricks and I borrowed it from
elsewhere on the net. I have not tested these ideas and have make no claims
for their safety or effectiveness. If you ruin your microwave don't blame
me.
Ah, the Microwave. The invention that single handedly changed
cooking from an art form to button pressing. Little do people know
that microwaving can also be a hobby...
1. The Light bulb. Edison never expected that the light bulb would
be as fun as it turns out to be today. Just pop one in the microwave
for about 10 seconds, and watch it light up and change colors. Of
the dozens of people that I've had try this, it's never caused
damage to either the microwave or the light bulb. It's fun, and
quick. Oh, and it works on all kinds of lights too! Incandescent,
Fluorescent, Halogen, Mercury, Neon, Argon(, Estrogen), whatever you
got...
2. The CD. Trying to figure out what to do to that ol' Spice Girls
CD that your sister forgot to dispose of a week after she got it?
Put it in the microwave! You'll see what looks just like fireworks
bouncing across the top of the CD. No damage done to the microwave,
but the CD is ruined forever. (Oh, and sometimes this smells a bit
too...)
3. Beanie Babies. Beanie Babies are awesome. They never dump you,
scream at you, steal your stuff, or try to breed with other Beanies.
Yet, there are a few beanies that are just ugly. If you put them in
the microwave... they expand. As those beads inside get hot, they
grow, causing your Beanie to be extremely puffy. (Just don't leave
them in for too long or the beanies will be permanently affixed to
your microwave).
4. Furbies. Unlike Beanie Babies, Furbies aren't as nice. Leave a
few of them together in a room, and they'll pretend to be talking.
However, what you don't know is that they're actually making hot
Furby love. Not good. If you put these little creatures in the
microwave, they have the most amazing vocal effects. Sure, they'll
talk your head off for a while, just like before, but they'll talk
in a deep Darth Vader like voice for a minute before they start
spewing smoke.
5. Marshmallows. Had a bad day? Well, there is a way to help you
take out some of that trouble on something that won't care. Get a
marshmallow, one of the big ones, and draw a face/body on it to
resemble somebody that you despise. Then, put him/her in the
microwave (on a plate!) for a minute and watch him grow huge, and
then slowly melt back down into the plate below.
6. Ball Lightning. Ball Lightning is a phenomena that's been
confusing scientists for nearly a hundred years now. It's literally
a ball of electricity that floats around, sometimes passing right
through walls, before disappearing. Here's how to make it in your
microwave: Get a glass filled with water, and attach a cigarette or
match to it on the outside using some of that sticky blue stuff that
you hang posters up with. (Sticky Tack.) Light the Cig./Match and
put it in your microwave for a few minutes. Eventually, balls of
lightning will rise from the match/cigarette and roll around on the
top of your microwave. DO NOT LEAVE THIS IS TOO LONG, OR THE BALL
LIGHTNING CAN MELT THE PLASTIC.
If you liked those, here are a few more:
http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/~pmichaud/grape/
http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/~pmichaud/toast/
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gmbrown/tart/
It should be noted that one experimenter had to repaint her kitchen
cabinets as a result of her interest in this subject.
Dennis
Bill Turner
<johngdDO...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>A wavelength at 10.525 ghz (the
>approximate operating frequency)
_________________________________________________________
The frequency used to be in the 2.4 gHz range - where did your number
come from?
Your post began with "I know you revel in ignorance of theory so ignore
this post", and it made me wonder who you were speaking to. :-)
Bill, W7TI
bill horne
He was mumbling at me, but he got it kinda backwards. I tend to ignore
those who revel in theory - unless the theory is squatful.
Results over theory. Function over form. And (with a <g>) luck over
skill.
HHamp5246
(STEVEBRAU) writes:
>I have seen the same models in RVs for sale in retail outlets, the one we have
being an example. Might I suggest that if you're going to change, why not look
at the combination convection/microwaves? You can do a lot more with them.
>MOF, the range in our house is a combo unit as well as the MH - they work very
well.>
Hi Steve,
Been thinking about this since you wrote it and I realize that I don't really
bake very much at all. Have used the oven once since I've had the trailer and
used the one in the house in TN once.....
It does seem like a good idea, but with the toaster oven and the gas range oven
I don't think I'll need it.
Good suggestion though... Hunter
Tex Houston
that.
Regards,
Tex
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HHamp5246
<texho...@pcisys.net> writes:
>Some people make cookies, Hunter makes reservations. Nothing wrong with
>that.
Not me, I really don't enjoy eating out much. I like hanging out at home with
the dogs.....
Sometimes as a treat it's fun.... but if I never ate out again I wouldn't
care...except I'd miss sushi.
Hunter
Brian Mitchell
> ... but if I never ate out again I wouldn't
> care...except I'd miss sushi.
>
> ***************************************
Ever try making sushi at home? Its not difficult to make, tastes really good
and is a whole lot cheaper than in a Japanese restaurant! I enjoy making
California roll especially!
Brian M.
HHamp5246
>good
>and is a whole lot cheaper than in a Japanese restaurant! I enjoy making
>California roll especially!
Hi Brian,
I did make it once..... it was okay but not as good as the sushi chefs make it.
I like California rolls, but also shrimp tempura, yellow tail and soft shell
crab.....plus seaweed salad, soy beans etc... too much work to make all that.
Hunter
STEVEBRAU
>I tried my wedding band. No sparks.
>No black pyramids, either.
But Bill, try putting a gold foil band on a hampster and re-trying your
experiment . If you try hard enough,and twist the data in the right way, you
can get the results you hope to-just ask DJO...
Steve
bill horne
I don't have a hampster or any gold foil. I guess my test facility
leaves something to be desired. But if I had a hamster, I'll bet I could
turn him into a small black pyramid. Hey - I wonder if I could get a
gummit grant for stuff like this?
STEVEBRAU
>I don't have a hampster or any gold foil. I guess my test facility
>leaves something to be desired. But if I had a hamster, I'll bet I could
>turn him into a small black pyramid. Hey - I wonder if I could get a
>gummit grant for stuff like this?
Another keyboard bites it - thanks <g>
Steve
Lone Haranguer
What you WILL get is a visit from a busload of PETA kooks wanting to
check the health and welfare of your hamster.
LZ
bill horne
Yeah, well, there's that, but what I want to know is who's looking out
for the health and welfare of black pyramids? Surely there are a few
people out there with enough time on their gloved hands that they could
champion BP's. There are probably innocent living things in BP's, you
know. But I don't know if they're sentient or not.
Lone Haranguer
I just had lunch and would rather not contemplate black pyramids. Check
with someone on a diet.
LZ
bill horne
> I just had lunch and would rather not contemplate black pyramids. Check
> with someone on a diet.
> LZ
Well, until we verify whether BP inhabitants are sentient or not, I hope
you didn't have a BP sandwich.
Mark
>> leaves something to be desired. But if I had a hamster, I'll bet I could
>> turn him into a small black pyramid. Hey - I wonder if I could get a
>> gummit grant for stuff like this?
>>
>What you WILL get is a visit from a busload of PETA kooks wanting to
>check the health and welfare of your hamster.
>LZ
That would be fine, if they crawl into the micro with the hamster.
Mark
Lone Haranguer
bill horne wrote:
>
> Lone Haranguer wrote:
>
> > I just had lunch and would rather not contemplate black pyramids. Check
> > with someone on a diet.
> > LZ
>
> Well, until we verify whether BP inhabitants are sentient or not, I hope
> you didn't have a BP sandwich.
>
Thankfully my lunch is now well settled so I can discuss this gross
subject material. I don't believe E Coli or pylorum are sentient so you
can pour bleach on them without feeling guilty. Anyway, I wouldn't.
My lunch was some most excellent BBQ pork ribs. Accompanied by a most
excellent "Big Butt" doppelbock by Leinenkugels. Now THAT is beer. Red
Dog is goat sweat in comparison.
LZ
D.
> I'd like to get all the test requirements nailed down once and for all,
> for one or two final tests. I don't want to make a career out of nuking
> tableware and jewelry in my so far unsuccessful quest for the Elusive
> Spark. Nor do I want to risk trashing my MW with daily spoon nukings -
> if nuking spoons Will trash a MW. I don't even know that for sure. There
> are some things I'm willing to test to destruction, but my MW is not one
> of them.
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Now, you won't have to do so many tests. <g>
http://www.dreaves.com/microtest.htm
Forgot to add that it was very humid and room temp was at 76 F.
Dot
bill horne
I don't know what I'm seeing there - unless it's a little smoke. I've
given up fork cooking anyway. But I'll tell you this - if you decide to
warmup a bowl of Brussels sprouts, put something over the top of the
bowl. Better yet, just throw the damned things in the trash, and eat
some Cheerios.
D.
>
> I don't know what I'm seeing there - unless it's a little smoke. I've
> given up fork cooking anyway. But I'll tell you this - if you decide to
> warmup a bowl of Brussels sprouts, put something over the top of the
> bowl. Better yet, just throw the damned things in the trash, and eat
> some Cheerios.
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
If you couldn't see a fork sticking out of a cat food can with a blue label
inside a microwave, and brand logo, LED, outside oven, etc., you need a
better computer/monitor setup -- or clean your eyeglasses! ...or are you
just piqued that others like to *occasionally* do stupid tests?
Had the Cheerios this AM, thank you. George has flown the koop and doesn't
have to eat brussels sprouts, but his and his son's Surgeons General say we
have to. Although what the hell does a surgeon have to do with it?
--
Dot
P.S. The BK hamburgers were gross. He liked them. I'd prefer a dose of
brussel sprouts.
North Central Florida
(pluck "pinfeathers" to send Reply)
http://dreaves.com
HHamp5246
>But I'll tell you this - if you decide to
>warmup a bowl of Brussels sprouts, put something over the top of the
>bowl.
Who warms up a bowl of brussels sprouts?
Hunter
Neon John
Bill Turner wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:23:21 -0500, Neon John
> <johngdDO...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >A wavelength at 10.525 ghz (the
> >approximate operating frequency)
>
> _________________________________________________________
>
> The frequency used to be in the 2.4 gHz range - where did your number
> come from?
mixing up two threads. You're correct. 10.525 is the typical frequency of an
X-band police radar.
John
Jynndi
>Who warms up a bowl of brussels sprouts?
>
>Hunter
Not I, they are not even allowed in or near my MH.
Digger, AKA Grumps (old and crusty)
hometown.aol.com/jynndi/myhomepage/profile.html
All errors; spilling, grimatical, ore tieping intenshunal.
Mark
>>
>>Hunter
>
>Not I, they are not even allowed in or near my MH.
>
>
>Digger
You ought to keep one baggie of 'em.. frozen. They're great slingshot
ammo...<evil grin>
Mark
bill horne
Guess - it's an easy one.
bill horne
>
> > > Now, you won't have to do so many tests. <g>
> > > http://www.dreaves.com/microtest.htm
> > > Dot
> >
> > I don't know what I'm seeing there - unless it's a little smoke. I've
> > given up fork cooking anyway. But I'll tell you this - if you decide to
> > warmup a bowl of Brussels sprouts, put something over the top of the
> > bowl. Better yet, just throw the damned things in the trash, and eat
> > some Cheerios.
> >
> > --
> > bill
> > Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> If you couldn't see a fork sticking out of a cat food can with a blue label
> inside a microwave, and brand logo, LED, outside oven, etc., you need a
> better computer/monitor setup -- or clean your eyeglasses! ...or are you
> just piqued that others like to *occasionally* do stupid tests?
Well, of course I saw all that. I was looking for evidence of fireworks,
and a fork in a catfood can doesn't qualify. Piqued? Why would I be
piqued?
And FTR, I have a 21" Viewsonic running at 1024x768, and I don't need
specs as long as I stay at least 3' from the monitor.
> --
> Dot
Lone Haranguer
Brussels sprouts should only be served in prisons, hospitals and
homeless shelters as an encouragement for those folks to leave and
obtain gainful employment.
LZ
D.
> > > > http://www.dreaves.com/microtest.htm
> > > > Dot
> > > I don't know what I'm seeing there - unless it's a little smoke.
> > > --
> > > bill
> > If you couldn't see a fork... <skip>
> > --
> > Dot
> Well, of course I saw all that. I was looking for evidence of fireworks,
> and a fork in a catfood can doesn't qualify. Piqued? Why would I be
> piqued?
>
> And FTR, I have a 21" Viewsonic running at 1024x768, and I don't need
> specs as long as I stay at least 3' from the monitor.
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
That's the point! There were no fireworks! Oddly, "END" came up on the
LED but the light was still on inside the oven when the shutter activated. I
figured you had to be "piqued" at something to say you didn't know what you
were seeing unless you had a poor monitor or dirty glasses, say I who is
viewing this on her third 19" monitor, which is also set at 1024x768
(does 1600x1200), a Viewsonic.
My first color 19" CRT was in June 1988 and cost $5,495. It was preceded by
and followed by *many* other computer setups, OS's, Sony Trinitrons, etc.
starting in 1981. (Just saw a 19" flat screen Viewsonic retail ad spouting
excellent ppi and res specs for $300. <sigh>) I'm not crazy about flat
panels-- yet. I think I've run ahead of Moore's Law too often -- but no
more! If it works, it stays. "But, but, but...." blubbers that tiny little
voice inside. ;-)
--
Dot in North Central Florida
(Pluck "pinfeathers" to Reply)
http://dreaves.com
bill horne
>
> > > > > Now, you won't have to do so many tests. <g>
> > > > > http://www.dreaves.com/microtest.htm
> > > > > Dot
>
> > > > I don't know what I'm seeing there - unless it's a little smoke.
> > > > --
> > > > bill
>
> > > If you couldn't see a fork... <skip>
> > > --
> > > Dot
>
> > Well, of course I saw all that. I was looking for evidence of fireworks,
> > and a fork in a catfood can doesn't qualify. Piqued? Why would I be
> > piqued?
> >
> > And FTR, I have a 21" Viewsonic running at 1024x768, and I don't need
> > specs as long as I stay at least 3' from the monitor.
> > --
> > bill
> > Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> That's the point! There were no fireworks!
Well then. I guess bofus got detuned forks. We don't have to worry about
fork fireworks in the nuker.
> Oddly, "END" came up on the
> LED but the light was still on inside the oven when the shutter activated.
Well then again. Maybe you've got a batacitor fork there, and it was
dumping stored energy back into the LED.
> I
> figured you had to be "piqued" at something to say you didn't know what you
> were seeing unless you had a poor monitor or dirty glasses, say I who is
> viewing this on her third 19" monitor, which is also set at 1024x768
> (does 1600x1200), a Viewsonic.
Mine does more, too, but then the little letters get hard to see at 3-4
feet away. I could probably still see a catfood can though -
particularly if it was Blue Label Catfood.
> My first color 19" CRT was in June 1988 and cost $5,495. It was preceded by
> and followed by *many* other computer setups, OS's, Sony Trinitrons, etc.
> starting in 1981. (Just saw a 19" flat screen Viewsonic retail ad spouting
> excellent ppi and res specs for $300. <sigh>) I'm not crazy about flat
> panels-- yet. I think I've run ahead of Moore's Law too often -- but no
> more! If it works, it stays. "But, but, but...." blubbers that tiny little
> voice inside. ;-)
>
> --
> Dot in North Central Florida
When my 21 incher sparks like my fork doesn't, I'll get something else.
D.
> > viewing this on her third 19" monitor, which is also set at 1024x768
> > (does 1600x1200), a Viewsonic.
> Mine does more, too, but then the little letters get hard to see at 3-4
> feet away.
The letter sizes can be adjusted -- if anyone wants to. At least you don't
get nuked by alien rays exhaled by monitors as badly as I do. I have to sit
way too close to a CRT to view anything.
> When my 21 incher sparks like my fork doesn't, I'll get something else.
Mine goes black at various times about every other month or so. No rhyme or
reason to it, otherwise I'd blame it on PMS. Never had a monitor do that
before. I learn to close everything down blindly and restart. It works well
till its next tantrum. (Not looking for solutions - one has to live with
some jerks -- oops quirks.)
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Night,
--
Dot
Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Sometimes age comes alone.
Marc Alan
"D." <drea...@pinfeathersmsn.com> wrote in message
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(Just saw a 19" flat screen Viewsonic retail ad spouting
> excellent ppi and res specs for $300. <sigh>) I'm not crazy about flat
> panels-- yet.
Just for your info (and since you said it both ways in your post), flat
PANELS (LCD) and flat SCREENS (CRT) are two different animals. I have a flat
PANEL (LCD) 15" (they are about 300 bucks), but a 19" flat PANEL (LCD) is
well over a thousand bucks. The Viewsonic 19" is a flat SCREEN (CRT) and not
a PANEL (LCD) (at the moment they don't make a 19" flat PANEL).
Lon VanOstran
>
> HHamp5246 wrote:
> >
> > In article <3C55EAE1...@rye.net>, bill horne <red...@rye.net> writes:
> >
> > >But I'll tell you this - if you decide to
> > >warmup a bowl of Brussels sprouts, put something over the top of the
> > >bowl.
> >
> > Who warms up a bowl of brussels sprouts?
> >
> > Hunter
>
> Guess - it's an easy one.
>
It was easy if you guessed me. I love brussels sprouts.
Lon
D.
>
> "D." <drea...@pinfeathersmsn.com> wrote ...
> (Just saw a 19" flat screen Viewsonic retail ad spouting
> > excellent ppi and res specs for $300. <sigh>) I'm not crazy about flat
> > panels-- yet.
>
> Just for your info (and since you said it both ways in your post), flat
> PANELS (LCD) and flat SCREENS (CRT) are two different animals. I have a
> flat PANEL (LCD) 15" (they are about 300 bucks), but a 19" flat PANEL
> (LCD) is well over a thousand bucks. The Viewsonic 19" is a flat SCREEN
> (CRT) and not a PANEL (LCD) (at the moment they don't make a 19" flat
> PANEL).
>
That's right, Marc. In context to the discussion of paying over $5K in 1988,
I said it both ways because I meant it both ways. I have little interest in
expensive flat panels -- yet! Monitor depth and weight is not a problem for
my home computer setup. If I got a new PC setup in the *near* future, I'd
opt for a cheaper flat screen CRT/monitor to use with it.
As to the future, I'd want a flat panel LCD or even better, a plasma screen
that rose up from the foot of my nursing home bed. (Damn, may not be THAT
faraway.) <g>
I've explained the CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) and LCD (Liquid Crystal Display)
monitor story before. Newer CRT tubes now have a flat face. The sort of
rounded, bulging front face of older CRT's caused distortions near the
edges. Viewing area, engineering and graphic design applications are
negatively affected by such distortions. However, it's always an excellent
idea to explain again as everyone is not aware of the differences. Thank
you.
Price example: Sony's LCD (18.1" viewable) run from about $1,159 to
$1,639, depending on model.
Viewsonic makes 19" LCD's... and more:
http://viewsonic.com/products/lcd.cfm go here to see all sizes of LCD
(including 19" and 23" - viewable sizes slightly smaller)
http://viewsonic.com/products/plasma.cfm or go here for the Viewsonic 50"
plasma displays.
Marc Alan
One neat thing (And RV related), the LCD screens (and plasma ones too) are
extremely thin (about 1"), and weigh very little (My 15" is only 11 LBS!. I
love the small size, weight, and power requirements in the RV). For those
that are curious, most LCD's (Plasma don't at the moment) convert 117AC to
12V DC and with alternate cables can run direct off of batteries when dry
camping!
I have an ATI tv/tuner card in my computer and can even watch TV on the LCD
monitor if I choose. (Why? low power usage and the LCD screens colors are
very much like my TV's CRT).
By the way, you can mount LCD's or Plasma screens on the ceiling, that would
make it even easier to watch it from a nursing home bed :)
GBinNC
wrote:
>I love brussels sprouts.
Uh-oh. Then you really ARE weird. <g>
GB in NC
Bob Giddings
wrote:
>bill horne wrote:
I like them philosophically. Brussels sprouts are proof that even a
cabbage can be cute.
Bob
D.
>
> By the way, you can mount LCD's or Plasma screens on the ceiling, that
would
> make it even easier to watch it from a nursing home bed :)
>
Do I lie or lay corrected?
--
Dot
GBinNC
wrote:
Well, since you asked -- you lie. (Unless there's an egg on the bed
after you get up. <g>)
GB in NC
D.
OMYGOSH! You called me a liar. Is this another flame war? <g>
Maybe I should be a layer instead. Top? Bottom? Middle? Goose? Rhode
Island Red? Brick?
--
Dot
Marc Alan
Actually, that was a reference to your statement "As to the future, I'd want
a flat panel LCD or even better, a plasma screen that rose up from the foot
of my nursing home bed. (Damn, may not be THAT faraway.) <g>"
I was always taught to be "helpful" to older people and thought I'd suggest
a way so they wouldn't need to expend all that energy sitting up in the
nursing home bed. :)
Lon VanOstran
I can live with that! <G>
I have yet to meet a vegetable that I don't like. In fact, the only food
I can think of that I don't care for is liver. Unless you want to count
raw fish, which I put right up there with raw poultry as inedible.
Lon
GBinNC
wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:51:46 -0500, Lon wrote:
>> I love brussels sprouts.
>GBinNC then wrote:
>> Uh-oh. Then you really ARE weird. <g>
>I can live with that! <G>
>I have yet to meet a vegetable that I don't like.
I like *most* veggies too -- but raw, not cooked. I can even eat
brussels sprouts raw, although I'd rather not. But cooked -- ugh.
>In fact, the only food I can think of that I don't care for is liver.
Right on -- let's see, that's the organ that filters the waste and
impurities from the blood. Some people really do eat that nastiness
and think it's good.
>Unless you want to count raw fish...
Commonly called "bait" where I come from.
GB in NC
Lone Haranguer
GBinNC wrote:
>
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:17:32 -0500, Lon VanOstran <rv...@voyager.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:51:46 -0500, Lon wrote:
> >> I love brussels sprouts.
>
> >GBinNC then wrote:
> >> Uh-oh. Then you really ARE weird. <g>
>
> >I can live with that! <G>
> >I have yet to meet a vegetable that I don't like.
>
> I like *most* veggies too -- but raw, not cooked. I can even eat
> brussels sprouts raw, although I'd rather not. But cooked -- ugh.
>
> >In fact, the only food I can think of that I don't care for is liver.
>
> Right on -- let's see, that's the organ that filters the waste and
> impurities from the blood. Some people really do eat that nastiness
> and think it's good.
>
I gather you have never eaten liver dumpling soup. One of my
favorites. Best liver is venison liver. Mooched some fresh stuff while
home for Christmas. Love it.
> >Unless you want to count raw fish...
>
> Commonly called "bait" where I come from.
Ugh! Yes. But pickled fish are technically raw too. Love pickled
northern pike and keep the smaller ones for that purpose. One of our
sons has a GREAT recipe and he makes sure I get several jars each year.
Years ago the wife and kids expressed an interest in Brussels Sprouts so
I planted a batch. A few meals and the novelty wore off and I ended up
mowing them short and plowing them under. They make good fertilizer.
LZ
>
> GB in NC
GBinNC
<esco...@tabletoptelephone.com> wrote:
>> GB had said, re eating liver:
>> Right on -- let's see, that's the organ that filters the waste and
>> impurities from the blood. Some people really do eat that nastiness
>> and think it's good.
>I gather you have never eaten liver dumpling soup.
You gather correctly.
>Best liver is venison liver.
The "best" of terrible is still terrible.
>Years ago the wife and kids expressed an interest in Brussels Sprouts so
>I planted a batch. A few meals and the novelty wore off and I ended up
>mowing them short and plowing them under. They make good fertilizer.
Well, it's good to know they're good for something...
GB in NC
Mark
>I planted a batch. A few meals and the novelty wore off and I ended up
>mowing them short and plowing them under. They make good fertilizer.
>LZ
Ok... I assume they're call Brussels Sprouts because that's when they're
picked.. when they're sprouts. What are they called when they're not sprouts
anymore? (other than fertilizer).
Mark - just curious
Lone Haranguer
Tall Brussels Sprouts. The stem just keeps on growing and producing
more sprouts on the sides.
LZ
D.
> > > By the way, you can mount LCD's or Plasma screens on the ceiling,
that
> > > would make it even easier to watch it from a nursing home bed :)
> "D." <drea...@pinfeathersmsn.com> replied:
> > Do I lie or lay corrected?
> "Marc Alan" <mscho...@NOSPAM.sc.rr.com> wrote again ...
> Actually, that was a reference to your statement "As to the future,
I'd want
> a flat panel LCD or even better, a plasma screen that rose up from the
foot
> of my nursing home bed. (Damn, may not be THAT faraway.) <g>"
>
> I was always taught to be "helpful" to older people and thought I'd
suggest
> a way so they wouldn't need to expend all that energy sitting up in
the
> nursing home bed. :)
Hmmnn... not too worried about expending energy. The bed would have air
jets to avoid bed sores and would automatically hold my body to a
viewing position, keeping the exhalation level in my mouth at an angle
to operate the computer and the HDTV computer by short puffs of breath.
When that's not possible, blinks will work (wonderfully -- there're
systems that do both now). BTW, a Bose Theater Surround Sound system
would be specially piped into my deaf ears.
Enuf....
Dot
DeLores Wilson
directly to your brain where it would have to be unscrambled electronically
so you would know what the heck that horrible noise was. :-) What you will
need to truly hear is implanted cilia (microscopic hairs) in your inner ears
as well as a functioning nerve there.
We actually have a long term care facility in Oregon that is all
computerized. When a person uses the toilet their blood pressure and body
temperature is taken, blood sugar tested and urine is tested for UTIs. If
the individual has signed a release to share information, this data can be
picked up by their family members via their computer anyplace in the world.
Each member of the staff and each resident of the facility wears a
computerized badge that shows their precise location within the facility at
any time by simply tapping on the person's photo on a computer screen. Lots
more fascinating and scary stuff!
--
DeLores Wilson
"D." <drea...@pinfeathersmsn.com> wrote in message
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D.
> If your ears were deaf the system would have to bypass the ears and go
> directly to your brain where it would have to be unscrambled
electronically
> so you would know what the heck that horrible noise was. :-) What
you will
> need to truly hear is implanted cilia (microscopic hairs) in your
inner ears
> as well as a functioning nerve there.
>
> We actually have a long term care facility in Oregon that is all
> computerized. When a person uses the toilet their blood pressure and
body
> temperature is taken, blood sugar tested and urine is tested for UTIs.
If
> the individual has signed a release to share information, this data
can be
> picked up by their family members via their computer anyplace in the
world.
> Each member of the staff and each resident of the facility wears a
> computerized badge that shows their precise location within the
facility at
> any time by simply tapping on the person's photo on a computer screen.
Lots
> more fascinating and scary stuff!
>
Wow, DeLores, what one can learn from a joke. I knew the breaths and
blinks to operate a computer or TV were available. The sound system
thing was a fantasy. I don't understand the physiology of the ear and,
more so, why it costs so much for hearing aids. Partial hearing is
frustration for the speaker and listener. My husband mishears so much
but gives no indication until a wrong out-of-the blue, unrelated reply.
(I'm not talking about the current "What she/he hears and what she/he
actually said" Non-Sequitor cartoon.) But then... you know about older
people and their hearing problems. People who are usually too old to
bother to learn ASL -- a communication method that amazes me, especially
for abstract ideas.
That toilet that measures vital signs was first used in Japan wasn't it?
GPS badges! Great for Alzheimer's patients. However, employees better
not pull a fast one and try to disappear for a break!
DeLores Wilson
has one so far. :-) Nerve deafness distorts sounds so hearing aids cannot
do what glasses do and "make the big E visible"; they make the sound louder
but it is still distorted and hard to comprehend except in context of what
else is being said. Digital aides are better than the old ones and very
expensive but still don't come close to what true hearing is.
Yes! That is what is so great about this system; the staff is as
accountable to the residents as the other way around. The residents get to
vote annually on the staff member's annual bonus also. The residents also
get to handle the food budget. If they want to splurge on wonderful menus
they will have to have some cheap meals also in order to make the money last
out the month. Since food is the number 1 thing to gripe about in long-term
care I think this is a wonderful idea!
--
DeLores Wilson
"D." <drea...@pinfeathersmsn.com> wrote in message
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George E. Cawthon
Dead!
Hugh
snipped
> We actually have a long term care facility in Oregon that is all
> computerized. When a person uses the toilet their blood pressure and body
> temperature is taken, blood sugar tested and urine is tested for UTIs. If
> the individual has signed a release to share information, this data can be
> picked up by their family members via their computer anyplace in the world.
Jeeeez, just what I've always wanted. Everybody knowing when I'm taking
a crap. <lmao>
Hugh
Rich McCormack
Lone Haranguer wrote:
> Tall Brussels Sprouts. The stem just keeps on growing and producing
> more sprouts on the sides.
> LZ
You sound like you've done this before. Over the years, I've pretty
much stuck to warm season "salsa" gardening...chiles, tomatoes and
such. At the end of last summer, I decided to try cool weather
gardening. I planted Brussels Sprouts back in early November but
haven't as yet seen a single sprout nor even any sign there'll be
any. Got any suggestions...?
--
"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations--entangling
alliances with none..."
--Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural Address, 1801
Rich McCormack (Poway, CA) mac...@pacbell.net
Who is Rich McCormack? Find out at...
http://home.pacbell.net/macknet/
D.
> Ok... I assume they're call Brussels Sprouts because that's when
they're
> picked.. when they're sprouts.
>
J'aime chou de Bruxelles ou petit chou.
Dot
Mark
Boiled with corned beef or....?
Mark - thank god for Babelfish...
Lone Haranguer
Rich McCormack wrote:
>
> Lone Haranguer wrote:
>
> > Tall Brussels Sprouts. The stem just keeps on growing and producing
> > more sprouts on the sides.
> > LZ
>
> You sound like you've done this before. Over the years, I've pretty
> much stuck to warm season "salsa" gardening...chiles, tomatoes and
> such. At the end of last summer, I decided to try cool weather
> gardening. I planted Brussels Sprouts back in early November but
> haven't as yet seen a single sprout nor even any sign there'll be
> any. Got any suggestions...?
>
Heh! My gardening experience was mostly in northern climates where the
ground is frozen solid in November. At our home place the first frost
is normally about 20 September and Labor Day is not uncommon. I planted
my gardens in late April or mid May. Maybe your climate is too cool in
winter for Brussels Sprouts. What does the seed package say? The only
winter "gardening" I've done is taking a few tomato and pepper plants
with me over the winter. Did you know they keep producing and can be
replanted the following summer? I had a Roma plant that was over 8 feet
tall and produced well over 100 tomatoes in its second year.
LZ
Marc Alan
"George E. Cawthon" <George...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3C57A419...@worldnet.att.net...
I sort of wonder why they are called "Brussel" sprouts myself. Did someone
in Brussels invent them?
Marc
Lone Haranguer
If all else fails, a web search might tell you. Without giving it any
deep thought I just ASSUMED that they mutated from cabbage or were a
result of some pervert in Brussels who was cross-pollinating plants.
LZ
Lon VanOstran
>
> Lon VanOstran <rv...@voyager.net> posted this message recently:
>
> >I have yet to meet a vegetable that I don't like. In fact, the only food
> >I can think of that I don't care for is liver. Unless you want to count
> >raw fish, which I put right up there with raw poultry as inedible.
> >
> >Lon
>
> in, might change your feeling about raw fish.
>
> Canoli
Not in this lifetime.
Lon
Lone Haranguer
Just get the right sauce and (almost) anything is edible.
LZ
Lon VanOstran
Yep! Anything but liver and raw fish.
Lon
Lone Haranguer
Chicken! We used to hunt at a ranch in Wyoming many years ago and the
rancher and his wife told us they would never eat liver. Well, the 3 of
us from MN who were hunting went out about 0500 and were back at 0800
with a nice buck. The liver was as fresh as it gets so we decided it
would make a good breakfast. (My hunting partners were a farmer (also
state congressman and pilot in the ARNG) and his school teacher wife.)
I was elected to do the cooking so I fried some bacon for the fat, cut
the liver in VERY thin slices and started cooking. The rancher and his
wife came in from doing chores and were eating the stuff as fast as I
could fry it. I had to threaten to spit in the pan just to get a
plateful.
LZ
Don
The guy's name was Bob Brussel. He owned a tomato farm.
D*
Few people can be happy unless they hate some other
person, nation, or creed.
BERTRAND RUSSELL
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Are you unmarried? Then do not look for a wife . . .
From now on, those who have wives should live as if they have none.
(1 Corinthians 7:27, 29)
D.
someone
> >in Brussels invent them?
Everything you ever wanted to know (except cooking and eating):
http://www.uga.edu/vegetable/brusselsprouts.html
Excerpt below:
"Brussel sprouts, Brassica oleracea var gemmifera, are known to be
native to cool regions in northern Europe. They were a popular
vegetable crop in Belgium during the sixteenth century from which they
were spread to the surrounding countries throughout temperate Europe.
French settlers in Louisiana extensively cultivated brussel sprouts for
its continuous production of miniature cabbages throughout the growing
season."
Dot
al...@omnicast.net
Brussels Sprouts are named that way because no one would buy them by
their original name: Worst Tasting Non-Edible Thing To Grow On Earth.
Few things in life really offend me, But those things really do. When
I was young, eons ago, my mother would cook them up, and I would go
outside and retch. If I go in a house today where they are being
cooked, same result.
Tom
George E. Cawthon
If you think Brussel sprouts are bad, try poi. That's a
real gagger.
Hugh
There are only two vegetables, that I have tasted, that gag me. They are
turnip and rutabaga. Brussel sprouts are delicious. Just my honest
opinion.
Hugh