Ivory liquid as bug killer (from the black widow thread)
bill horne
2 0z of Ivory dishwashing liquid in about a quart of water.
1. Sprayed a wasp on its nest. It flew off, barely missing my face, and
disappeared. The next day it was back - assuming it was the same one.
2. Sprayed two wasps on a nest. One did nothing, and the other landed on
my leg. The next day, there were two wasps working on the nest.
3. Sprayed another two wasps on a nest. Neither flew, but both began
wandering around the soffit away from the nest. Later, both were gone,
but the next day, two wasps were working on the nest.
3. Couldn't find a black widow, but sprayed a cobweb spider. It
immediately fell to floor with its legs pulled in, and apparently dead.
I touched it with a pencil, and it unfolded and instantly teleported
itself about 3 inches away. I touched it again, and it folded up again.
It stayed folded up as I rolled it around the floor like a pea. Decided
to wait and watch. About 3 minutes later, it unfolded and scooted out of
sight.
4. Sprayed a roach in my shop. It fell to the floor and staggered about
2 inches, and stopped. About 30 seconds from being shot, it was
apparently dead. The next day it was still apparently dead.
Except for the roach, I'm not impressed with Ivory as a bug killer, and
conclude that if you want black widows dead, you should use something
else - or just squash 'em.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Curt Martin
bill horne wrote:
I gotta say, I laughed out loud when I read this. Thanks Bill, good info.
Unknown
it with stomach acids, let it digest then drink it. Best most
effective way to kill is to squash them and keep the webs down, they
move if they can't eat.
Lone Haranguer
> I've done a limited test.
> 2 0z of Ivory dishwashing liquid in about a quart of water.
>
Your next lab experiment is eagerly awaited. This is solid science, not
theory.
LZ
Lou Schneider
wrote:
>I've done a limited test.
>2 0z of Ivory dishwashing liquid in about a quart of water.
>
>1. Sprayed a wasp on its nest. It flew off, barely missing my face, and
>disappeared. The next day it was back - assuming it was the same one.
The most effective wasp stopper I've found is Dow Scrubbing Bubbles.
Spray it in their vicintiy and as soon as they fly through the mist it
foams up on their wings and they drop like a rock.
You can follow this up with an application of regular pesticide -
Scrubbing Bubbles will continue to disable their wings until the
pesticide finishes them off. Or you can just squash them with your
shoe. I prefer the latter approach.
I discovered the Scrubbing Bubbles' effectiveness several years ago
when I disturbed a wasp nest while cleaning a remote transmitter site.
The buggers started emerging from the nest with a vengence and I
grabbed what I thought was a can of wasp spray. Turned out to be the
Scrubbing Bubbles I was using to clean the transmitter. I just
continued spraying as the wasps flew out of the nest and within
seconds all of them were stranded on the floor.
HHamp5246
>grabbed what I thought was a can of wasp spray. Turned out to be the
>Scrubbing Bubbles I was using to clean the transmitter. I just
>continued spraying as the wasps flew out of the nest and within
>seconds all of them were stranded on the floor.
>
>
That was a clean shot.
Hunter
bill horne
What? You got a particular bug you want tested that wasn't in my
protocol? Get me a grant and the bug, and I'll test with a vengeance and
diligence that will amaze even you.
bill horne
> The most effective wasp stopper I've found is Dow Scrubbing Bubbles.
Although I occasionally take them out with a propane torch, the most
effective wasp stopper I've found are products made for the job. They
have more range than your average spraycan, and it drops them like
rocks.
I question the credibility of any new item of folklore, old wives'
tales, etc., that I encounter until I test it for myself. Decades of
experience have convinced me that there's a lot of boolsheet in folklore
and 'new' discoveries.
But I may have some Bubbles, and if I do, I'll try it on some GA wasps.
I managed to escape being stung while testing the allegedly Wondrous
Ivory, so maybe my luck - combined with a little skill at evasive
maneuvering - will hold through another allegedly wondrous product.
RAM^3
news:urll70h6r9ogdr3bc...@4ax.com:
I've had excellent results from Aqua Net hairspray.
It doesn't actually kill them, they are simply totally immobilized and can
be swept up and discarded.
Works on any kind of bug or small rodent.
Lone Haranguer
>
> What? You got a particular bug you want tested that wasn't in my
> protocol? Get me a grant and the bug, and I'll test with a vengeance and
> diligence that will amaze even you.
>
I definitely think that fire ants need more testing. You haven't even
scratched the surface on chemicals and household items that may be
effective against the invaders. Apply to the state and the federal ag
departments for assistance in your quest. Tell them of you past
successes and remind them of their many failures.
LZ
bill horne
The word around here - and I shit you not, it IS the feeling - is that
we could eliminate fireants, but the fireant poison makers don't want
them eliminated. They prefer to continue to sell poisons to "control"
them. It's the Government/Poisonmaker Conspiracy that's preventing the
elimination of the little bastards.
bill horne
> > You can follow this up with an application of regular pesticide -
> > Scrubbing Bubbles will continue to disable their wings until the
> > pesticide finishes them off. Or you can just squash them with your
> > shoe. I prefer the latter approach.
> >
> > I discovered the Scrubbing Bubbles' effectiveness several years ago
> > when I disturbed a wasp nest while cleaning a remote transmitter site.
>
> I've had excellent results from Aqua Net hairspray.
>
> It doesn't actually kill them, they are simply totally immobilized and can
> be swept up and discarded.
>
> Works on any kind of bug or small rodent.
If it's OK with you folklorists and old wives, I'm gonna stick with my
assault spraycan. It's designed to immobilize them immediately, and kill
them momentarily - and it does. In one step. From a distance - so they
don't manage to hook my leg on the way down.
I'm a little surprised someone hasn't suggested used brake fluid in a
spray bottle. But nevermind - the only time I had any used brake fluid
was when I finished testing my nuts.
Curt Martin
bill horne wrote:
>
> I'm a little surprised someone hasn't suggested used brake fluid in a
> spray bottle. But nevermind - the only time I had any used brake fluid
> was when I finished testing my nuts.
>
>
I'm sorry...what was that? You sure that's legal?
Max
"bill horne" <red...@rye.net> wrote
>
> The word around here - and I shit you not, it IS the feeling - is that
> we could eliminate fireants, but the fireant poison makers don't want
> them eliminated. They prefer to continue to sell poisons to "control"
> them. It's the Government/Poisonmaker Conspiracy that's preventing the
> elimination of the little bastards.
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
I think they have the same policy for termites.
Max
GBinNC
wrote:
No. No, please no. Please don't start that again. Oh please...
--
GB in NC
Lone Haranguer
> The word around here - and I shit you not, it IS the feeling - is that
> we could eliminate fireants, but the fireant poison makers don't want
> them eliminated. They prefer to continue to sell poisons to "control"
> them. It's the Government/Poisonmaker Conspiracy that's preventing the
> elimination of the little bastards.
>
Hmmmnnn! Maybe a few Socialist bureaucrats on loan could be useful in
this instance. An order from the Politburo can do wonders.
LZ
Jan Eric Orme
>bill horne wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Naw....not legal...but works I bet! All that other stuff is probably ixnay
also. Another product that works against wasps (what I had in the garage at the
time) is 110 octane race gas.
Hey! What the heck! That stuff is legal for off road use only and those suckers
were off the road on my property!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jan Eric Orme
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you
have never been hurt and dance like nobody is watching!"
GBinNC
wrote:
>>bill horne wrote:
>>> I'm a little surprised someone hasn't suggested used brake fluid in a
>>> spray bottle. But nevermind - the only time I had any used brake fluid
>>> was when I finished testing my nuts.
>Curt wrote:
>>I'm sorry...what was that? You sure that's legal?
>Naw....not legal...but works I bet!
ROFL. I think he meant "Is testing your nuts with brake fluid legal?"
--
GB in NC
midwesterner
> I've done a limited test.
> 2 0z of Ivory dishwashing liquid in about a quart of water.
>
> 1. Sprayed a wasp on its nest. It flew off, barely missing my face, and
> disappeared. The next day it was back - assuming it was the same one.
>
> 2. Sprayed two wasps on a nest. One did nothing, and the other landed on
> my leg. The next day, there were two wasps working on the nest.
>
> 3. Sprayed another two wasps on a nest. Neither flew, but both began
> wandering around the soffit away from the nest. Later, both were gone,
>
A soap spray is good for aphids and mites and has the advantage that
it spares beneficial insects such as wasps and pollen bees. Wasps like
eating black widow spiders.
There are many good gardening forums.
Curt Martin
GBinNC wrote:
yeah, that's where I was going...
Neon John
just using the stuff made for the task.
Anyway, back when I worked TVA construction in the good old days BE (before
epa) we were equipped with the most marvelous wasp killer I've ever seen. It
was a big aerosol can filled with a mix of some sort of insecticide and R12.
The R12 froze the wasps in place until the insecticide killed them. With the
passing of R12 I thought those days were long gone.
Then one of my lineman friends told me about the CRC brand electrical contact
cleaner. His utility issues it to the line trucks for cleaning cables before
splicing. This is a halogenated hydrocarbon based cleaner, probably 1,1,1
Trichloroethylene ("trike"). He told me that it was an amazing wasp spray
too. I procured a can and gave it a test. The can is equipped with a deluge
nozzle just like the long range wasp sprays and that old TVA freeze spray.
I hosed a nest containing probably 15 wasps. Motion simply ceased. Wasps did
NOT fly away. They did NOT drop off the nest. They simply ceased living,
frozen in time and place. Every bit as effective as the old TVA freeze spray.
The stuff doesn't get cold enough to thermally freeze the critters so it must
be the solvent action of the trike.
Trike has fallen victim to the EPA ozone hysteria so it can't be purchased in
"stores". CRC does make a consumer grade contact cleaner but it is not trike
based. The good version has to be purchased at an industrial supply company
such as an electrical supply house.
John
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 03:19:42 -0400, in rec.outdoors.rv-travel Bill Da Man
wrote:
>I've done a limited test.
>2 0z of Ivory dishwashing liquid in about a quart of water.
>
>1. Sprayed a wasp on its nest. It flew off, barely missing my face, and
>disappeared. The next day it was back - assuming it was the same one.
>
>2. Sprayed two wasps on a nest. One did nothing, and the other landed on
>my leg. The next day, there were two wasps working on the nest.
>
>3. Sprayed another two wasps on a nest. Neither flew, but both began
>wandering around the soffit away from the nest. Later, both were gone,
>but the next day, two wasps were working on the nest.
---
John De Armond
johngdDO...@bellsouth.net
http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/
Cleveland, Occupied TN
bill horne
Who gives a damn? I'm a consenting adult in the privacy of my workshop,
ain't I?
GBinNC
wrote:
>Who gives a damn? I'm a consenting adult in the privacy of my workshop,
>ain't I?
Define "consenting adult."
(ducking and running,)
GB in NC
bill horne
Old enough to buy brake fluid?
Max
"bill horne" <red...@rye.net> wrote
>
> Who gives a damn? I'm a consenting adult in the privacy of my workshop,
> ain't I?
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Technically we might be considered as accessories if you were to take any of
our suggestions seriously.
Max
Curt Martin
bill horne wrote:
> Curt Martin wrote:
>
>>bill horne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm a little surprised someone hasn't suggested used brake fluid in a
>>>spray bottle. But nevermind - the only time I had any used brake fluid
>>>was when I finished testing my nuts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I'm sorry...what was that? You sure that's legal?
>>
>
> Who gives a damn? I'm a consenting adult in the privacy of my workshop,
> ain't I?
>
>
LOL, I 'spose you are...I guess I just *test* my nuts differently. ;-)
bill horne
> Technically we might be considered as accessories if you were to take any of
> our suggestions seriously.
>
> Max
Don't lose any sleep. I'll put tinfoil over my shop windows, keep no
notes, and won't mention any names until the third day of torture.
bill horne
> LOL, I 'spose you are...I guess I just *test* my nuts differently. ;-)
Wrong nuts - those were tested and proven long ago.
George LeRoi Tyrebyter
>
> Except for the roach, I'm not impressed with Ivory as a bug killer, and
> conclude that if you want black widows dead, you should use something
> else - or just squash 'em.
>
Ivory works well for cleaning the remains off the wall.
--
George LeRoi Tyrebyter
bill horne
Ivory used to work well for cleanup after medium-duty mechaniking. Then
they improved it.
George LeRoi Tyrebyter
> George LeRoi Tyrebyter wrote:
>
>>bill horne wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Except for the roach, I'm not impressed with Ivory as a bug killer, and
>>>conclude that if you want black widows dead, you should use something
>>>else - or just squash 'em.
>>>
>>
>>Ivory works well for cleaning the remains off the wall.
>>
>>--
>>George LeRoi Tyrebyter
>
>
> Ivory used to work well for cleanup after medium-duty mechaniking. Then
> they improved it.
>
Lava.
--
George LeRoi Tyrebyter
Lone Haranguer
> Ivory used to work well for cleanup after medium-duty mechaniking. Then
> they improved it.
>
LZ