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<nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Like I said before, Keely: LEARN TO READ or for
> God's sake get some glasses.<br><br>My profile has
> NEVER said SD. It said MD, the abbreviation for
> Maryland. It has said Turtle Island for months now, so you
> can be excused for your faulty memory. At least for
> the moment.<br><br>However, if we're going to employ
> slaps of reality, how 'bout this one?<br><br>In an
> earlier post, you alluded to the fact that you had worked
> as a law enforcement officer.<br><br>LIAR.<br><br>A
> simple telephone call by one of our group to the
> department you CLAIMED you worked for reveals the
> truth:<br><br>You were never a patrol officer. You worked in a
> youth program, and you were terminated.<br><br>Oh, yes.
> The department was quite familiar with Keely Squirrel
> Denning. But not in a good way...no, not at all.<br><br>As
> a matter of fact, they asked our member if we knew
> your middle name. When our member replied "squirrel",
> they then asked what one eats.<br><br>Our member said
> "nuts". "So is she," was the reply.<br><br>So now we see
> who the "wannabe" really is here. We see who the
> "liar" is here. <br><br>Your word is not to be trusted.
> You have no honor, even in this.<br><br>Tell me, does
> Will know what his wife is up to? Do you think he'd
> like to know? I could always write to
> him...<br><br>Foolish girl...did you think we were so
> powerless?<br><br>Do you not understand that from the moment one of us
> stood up to you, we had already won? Can't you see the
> wind has shifted and now blows from our direction?<br>
> <br>Look around you. See the number of "in defiance"
> taglines on these posts. We DEFY you, keely, and your
> bunch of bullies. And the word of our defiance
> circulates through many of the Native American clubs on
> Yahoo.<br><br><br>No matter what you do, no matter what you say, it
> will never be forgotten that we defied you. And you
> can't change that.<br><br>Is that laughter I hear on
> the wind?<br><br>In Defiance<br>
>THAT ALT.NATIVE IS INFESTED W/ A
>BUNCHA...
buncha???
but your ludicrous claim is that there is only one critic?
>"WE"? HA HA HA - EVIDENTLY U AINT NEVER SAW A
>BUNCHA PISSED OFF NDNS
sounds like it IS a bunch of pissed of ndns to me..
"Net Spanker" <groups...@google.com> wrote in message
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Well said Bravesheart!!!!!, except,first Keely drugged over to ALT
NATIVE her perpencity for being the offical????? Whadddayah call it
when someone from the get go!!! EVERY TIME A
new
person COMES to ALT NATIVE!!!!!!!! Keely and her's goes DOWN on EVERY
NEW PERSON WHO
EVER DOES
COME TO
EVEN
CHECK
OUT ALT
NATIVE "the NEWS GROUP" rememBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!.
WWW it MEANS JUST THAT>WW>world>WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEE
web>yes?
OR
JUST PLANE
OLD
HMMMMMMmm.
NOW wheres those lemmons ohhhhh it's pie day<<<....Lisa D....
I think you should re-phrase your comment about myself and every new person
who comes to alt.native... I see lots of names that are new here, some I
have never conversed with... I DO get after the wannabes who come in here
seeking "wisdom" or "shamans" and you know what? I aint the only person here
who jumps on these kind of people, more so, anymore I dont have to say
anything because everyone else now beats me to the punch... Lisa, I dont
have a "hers" there aint no "gang" here.. I have not jumped on "sides"
because a person I like is in a disagreement with someone else.... I have
disagreed with many people here, and yet we still remain friends... It is a
normal process in life to disagree with people, and I dont have to hate
people whom I disagree with....
"lisa dillon" <lisa_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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This post, that has been copied and dragged here from "yahoo" groups, was
posted many years ago, the poster himself did not get this information first
hand... oh no, he got it from a gal who is a "real bonified member of the
Cherokee Tribe of Texas" so that says a lot for her credibility.. And long
ago I had contact with that poster, whom I believe regrets making that post
because he now knows the situation of which I will not repeat the whole
thing here.
I never have been a patrol officer, and never plan to try out for such a
position... I worked in Juvenile.
There had been a officer who worked in investigations who he and I did not
like each other... he was fired.. why was he fired? Well, I dont think it is
up for me to tell too much about the sexual relationship that officer was
having with a "ahem* very young lady, who *ahem* was most likely under the
age of concent when the *ahem* sexual relationship began. That "former"
officer went to work for a small police department where he was again fired,
for *ahem* violating the rights of prisoners, meaning *ahem* he beat the
crap out of a kid who was speeding... he then went to work for a small
sheriff department, where *ahem* the sheriff refused to fire him for
harassing teenagers, so *ahem* the sheriff and this former officer both lost
their jobs... This former officer now works cleaning elephant poop at the
local zoo... So there is the credibility of the officer these people say
the spoke with..
Futher, if these people knew anything, muchless spoke with co-workers, they
would know my middle name never has been Squirrel. Heck, I think everyone
here knows my middle name is not Squirrel, and so why would co-workers not
know that? Gee, simple aye?
The last person who called the department and got to speak to an offical,
regreted their actions as well...
Department policy is not to release information on anyone who works there,
even gosip about employees is forbidden.... I do research for the
department, I am proud of the research I have done, and if you come to my
town, I would be happy to give you a tour of the department historial
areas... I also work on identifiying a unknown Jane Doe who was found in our
county in 1986, a victim of a homicide. I dont want to solve her murder,
only who she is, so that her family may know where she is, and that people
here, though we never knew her in life, cared about her in death...
Again, anyone here can call the department, they have in the past... it aint
hard, but becareful of what one may ask, you might not like the answer...
"Net Spanker" <groups...@google.com> wrote in message
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> There had been a officer who worked in investigations who he and I did
>not like each other... he was fired.. why was he fired? Well, I dont think
>it is up for me to tell too much about the sexual relationship that officer
>was having
Yet here you are doing it.
>with a "ahem* very young lady, who *ahem* was most likely under the
> age of concent when the *ahem* sexual relationship began.
"most likely" huh?
>"That "former" officer went to work for a small police department where >he
was again fired, for *ahem* violating the rights of prisoners, meaning
>*ahem* he beat the crap out of a kid who was speeding... he then went to
>work for a small sheriff department, where *ahem* the sheriff refused to
>fire him for> harassing teenagers, so *ahem* the sheriff and this former
>officer both lost their jobs... This former officer now works cleaning
>elephant poop at the local zoo...
> Department policy is not to release information on anyone who works
>there,
Yet here you are doing it.
> even gosip about employees is forbidden....
Yet here you are doing it.
2) The young lady in question had turned 16 years of age when the sexual
relationship was discovered, there is evidence that the young lady was 15
years old when the relationship began, HOWEVER she refused to admitt it
began then. State law for sexual concent is 16.
3) Its not gossip considering the whole case went to then County Attorney
Julie McKenna, the officer involved was fired, and admitted to his sexual
relationship, the girl admitted to the relationship, what would be gossip is
how the officers wife reacted to the news... and thats something I dont have
knowledge of, nor do I care.... thats between a man and his wife, dont you
think so?
"copper kettle" <b...@hoo.com> wrote in message
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WHAT U OUGHTTA DO IS TELL THE SICK FUCKS TO TAKE THERE POISON PEN & THERE
BULLSHIT ELSEWHERE. ....IT AINT PLAYED IN PEORIA ON THIS
NG SO FAR & IT AINT GONNA NO TIME
SOON... ENUF NDN FOLKS NO U TO
HAVE THE SAME RECEPTION 4 THERE
WORDS AS 4 DOG SHIT... THEY KEEP
THROWIN THERE SHIT AT OUR DOORSTEP & THINK SOMEBODYS GONNA SHOVEL IT... BIG
MISTAKE... NDNS DONT BEND THERE BACK TO WHITE MENS BURDENS NO MORE...
WITH EVERY SHOVELFULL THEY JUST MAKE THERESELFS LOOK STUPIDER.. ITS ALL ABOUT
BEIN ATTN. STARVED
I SPOSE
> Futher, if these people knew anything, muchless spoke with co-workers,
>they would know my middle name never has been Squirrel. Heck, I think
>everyone here knows my middle name is not Squirrel, and so why would
>co-workers not know that? Gee, simple aye?
Keely Squirrel Denning:
You claim I have not posted my name... ahhh but here you are wrong! My name
is
Keely Squirrel Denning... I know many here know my name and know I have
never
hidden behind my computer as you wish to believe.
>THEY KEEP
>THROWIN THERE SHIT AT OUR DOORSTEP
you own no doorsteps here..
its an unmoderated public usenet group..
when will you get your head around that..?
you want a moderated private group you start it..
yu cant just co-opt public ones..
ALT.NATIVE CHARTER
The name and the
charter are *Usenet* issues, not *American*, or *Native*, or
*Indian*, or *European*, or anything else.
Usenet groups are a forum for particular issues, not particular
people. The news group name does not describe the participants,
it describes the subject contents. Articles which contend
otherwise are naive at best and hurt the cause beyond description.
>
>ITS ALL ABOUT BEIN ATTN. STARVED
>I SPOSE
a glimmering of self-awareness from the CAPLOCKS troll?
"copper kettle" <b...@hoo.com> wrote in message
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"copper kettle" <b...@hoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>And you think my middle name is Squirrel? ROFLOL... I am sure plenty of
>people have gotten a huge kick out of that one, more than once... silly
>you... tis my maiden name that is Squirrel...
>
>
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Chris,
I believe they are the same Dennings... we can compare notes if you wish to
e-mail me at ke...@tri.net My e-mail address will be changing in a few weeks... going to
the new roadrunner system set up in Salina.
I married Wilbur Denning Jr. his dad is Wilbur Denning Sr. son of Boniface
(Foxy) Denning, who is the son of Jospeh Denning.. Connie is my husbands Aunt. My son's name is Joel
my daughers name is Rachel.
You post childish bullshit! Just out of curiosity, did your mama have any
children that survived? PLONK!
NAAHHHH THE BEST PART OF THAT ASSHOLE RAN DOWN HIS MAMAS LEG
OH YEAH - AINT THAT THE TRUTH:
http://www.rienzihills.com/Hannah/shawnievedder.htm
(SHAWNIE VEDDARS FAMILY HISTORY STUF)
http://www.geocities.com/chief_satiacum/viewgb1.html
CHECK THIS OUT. DOES THAT LAST LINE SUPRIZE NE1?:
shawnie vedder - 12/29/98 00:45:16
My URL:http://adventureangling.com
My Email:sha...@adventureangling.com
Favorite Outdoor Activity: shopping
Favorite Indoor Activity: shopping
Favorite Song: obsession
Favorite... Person: me
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/6383/update.htm ( title: Millie's
congenital heart defect journal and unbearably cute pictures)
SOME FOLKS WILL PUT ANY GODAMN THING ON THE INTERNET TO GET ATTN.
...IT SUX WHEN IT VIOLATES A MINORS
PRIVACY
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.usa.states
.oregon.counties.tillamook/82
(SHAWNIE SEEM TO GOT PROBS W/ NAMES & SPELLING & IS SNIFFING THRU FAMILY GRAVES
TO TRY TO FORCE A FAMILY NAME CHANGE....
GOTTA TRY PROVIN THAT NATIVE
CONNECTION)
>
>http://www.geocities.com/chief_satiacum/viewgb1.html
>CHECK THIS OUT. DOES THAT LAST LINE SUPRIZE NE1?:
nobody with self-respect themselves..
but of course that excludes you..
>shawnie vedder - 12/29/98 00:45:16
>My URL:http://adventureangling.com
>My Email:sha...@adventureangling.com
>Favorite Outdoor Activity: shopping
>Favorite Indoor Activity: shopping
>Favorite Song: obsession
>Favorite... Person: me
Did you buy anything from adventure angling
BH..
or are you just some sort of cyber shoplifter?
>
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/6383/update.htm ( title: Millie's
>congenital heart defect journal and unbearably cute pictures)
>SOME FOLKS WILL PUT ANY GODAMN THING ON THE INTERNET TO GET ATTN.
>...IT SUX WHEN IT VIOLATES A MINORS
>PRIVACY
Yep..sure does..
so when are you going to quit doing it?
>
>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.usa.states
>.oregon.counties.tillamook/82
>(SHAWNIE SEEM TO GOT PROBS W/ NAMES & SPELLING
LOL!
suprised YOU have the audacity to even MENTION spelling!!
> & IS SNIFFING THRU FAMILY GRAVES
talking of sniffing through family graves?
>TO TRY TO FORCE A FAMILY NAME CHANGE....
>GOTTA TRY PROVIN THAT NATIVE
>CONNECTION)
nah..you are mixing her up with Keely
what was keely sneering at about shaking family trees?
hmm..
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/miami/queries/query1998a.html
Query Surnames: Squirrel, Hon-Ne-Quah
Date: 4 January 1998
Query:I am seekin information about a Shawnee family. My family could
be
buried under Hon-Ne-Quah, this is Shawnee for Squirrel. It is spelled
phonitically because there is no correct way to spell in Shawnee. My
Uncle
spells it Huniqua
Keely ova...@midusa.net
Response: There are no records for Squirrel or Hon-Ne-Quah in the
three
volumes of cemetery records. It appears that most of the records for
Miami
County related to the Miami, Wea, Peoria and Plyankicha tribes. Even
these
records are fairly sparce because the tribes apparently began to
relocate to
Pottawatomie Co, KS, in the late 1840's or early 1850's, although
there are
records for baptisms up till about 1861. Kinsella's book History of
the
Cradleland pp 237-244 lists baptisms, marriages, deaths but mostly
1846-1848.
Sean Furniss
FYI since your interested in my family <g> There are members of my family in
the records, Civil War US 14th Cavalry .. I HAVE been seeking where these
members are buried at... since that post, I have been able to locate many
Shawnee Indian cemeteries that have NOT been listed due to the fact they
have been on the Sunflower area of government restricted access...
Would you like more history on my family? At leat I can PROVE my family is
indeed Indian, with all kinds of records, cant say that about the person who
have boinked...
"jake" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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Learn English.
LEARN HONESTY
Tell me, does> Will know what his wife is up to? Do you think he'd> like to
know? I could always write to> him...
TELL ME DOES BOB WHELAN (JAKE)
WIFE JOYCE NO WHAT HE IS UP TO
W/ SHAWNIE VEDDAR? U COUD ALWAYS WRITE TO HIM & ASK HIM:
bobw...@ntlworld.com of 8 Outram Street Darlington DL3 7DB UK.... DONT LET
JOYCE NO HE GOT THE PSYCO
PREGNANT SO SHE COUD KEEP ON
GETTIN SSDI PAYMENTS
So who molested who then? The husband or the wife? Is that why keely gave her kid up? Or did CPS
take her kid away?
anon coward bravesheart strikes again.. LOL...
what's the matter pussy boy? scare of women and children? You should be.
Notice how I never dropped the Chief's name here? Took braves heart stalking to find the
connection..
>>Subject: Re: The department was quite familiar with Keely Squirrel Denning
>>From: "Net Spanker"
>
>Tell me, does> Will know what his wife is up to? Do you think he'd> like to
>know? I could always write to> him...
>
>TELL ME DOES BOB WHELAN (JAKE)
>WIFE JOYCE NO WHAT HE IS UP TO
>W/ SHAWNIE VEDDAR? U COUD ALWAYS WRITE TO HIM
MORON..
dont you mean her??
why dont you do it yourself you clueless cowardly retard?
oh thats right ..you have to skulk in
your spider hole dont you?
LOL!
better yet you could phone..
>& ASK HIM:
you mean ask her lamebrain..
go for it shit for brains..LOL..
>bobw...@ntlworld.com of 8 Outram Street Darlington DL3 7DB UK....
<usual filth clipped>
God help us another plastic Andrew imitator...
yawn..
I bet he's too scared to call you.. He's blown his DID theories out the window with this post
though.. LOL!
Yep..he sure should..
the ex-wife in question used to be a Samaritan and is well used to
dealing with crank calls from anonymous stalking perverts such as
him..
Harley
--
Boycott Starbucks
http://www.haidabuckscafe.com/
Reply to vyl at pacbell dot net
>
>
>Notice how I never dropped the Chief's name here? Took braves heart stalking to find the
>connection..
maybe one day his three brain cells will connect and he will
realize why he is the lamest cyberstalker in history..
well Im waiting..
>He's blown his DID theories out the window with this post
>though.. LOL!
looks like his cybermistress has taken pity on him and given him a new
program..
truth and true colours always come out in the end
"I TOTALY AGREE W/ U. NOBODY GOT NO ENTITLEMENT TO PERSNAL STUF
ONLINE. TO HELL W/ EM - THERE ALL
FACELESS NAMES & NAMELESS FACES WHO USE WORDS AS WEAPONS. THE ONLY
ENTITLEMENT ANYBODY GOT = TO PRIVACY"
BRAVESHEART
"A man never discloses his character quite so
clearly as whan he describes anothers."
Jean Paul Richter.
I DONT "THRETEN" NOBODY W/ MY CAP LTRS. I DO THIS
CUZ I SPELL LIKE SHIT & MY GRAMMER SUX.
USENET & GOOGLE GROUPS R QUITE FAMILAR W/ "JAKE" AKA BOB WHELAN & NOSPAM AKA
"SHAWNIE VEDDER"...
IF U WANT CHAPTER & VERSE ON ETHER 1 GO TO GOOGLE CLICK ON GROUPS & PUT
ETHER NAME IN THE SEARCH BLOCK. THATLL BRING U POSTS FROM ENUF FOLKS & GROUPS
THEY HAVE OFFENDED TO GAG A MULE
Yes.
Everyone including you had to start some where in confirming their roots and
identity
You have no right to make anyone else's journey to discover their roots and
identity as hard as you have been trying to make my good friend's Shawnee
Vetter's journey back to her roots.
Cease and desist your irrational BS.
Bob Dylan --
"Keely" <kden...@cox.net> wrote in message
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All of which suggest the climate was a very loose climate encouraging the
behavior you were alleged to engage in---but as seems to be your
habit--gone over the top with.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.
There isn't anyway a mature adult is going to come out smelling like a rose
if a magnifying glass is used to examine the choices they made in the
circumstances they found themselves in over the course of a lifetime.
Dig deep enough and there is dirt in everyone's closet---not because we
bad --but because each and everyone of us is a member of that faultfilled
species known as homosapiens.
cease and desist your judgemental crappola as all you accomplished with it
is incite people to take a hard look at the person who is so determined to
pass judgement on others.
Does Carla know about the crap you post here? I sure hope she can spell better than you do. No one
is going to buy her lyrics if she writes like you do.
Yes people in glass houses should not throw stones, and the worst kind of
house is those that people try to hide in... I aint hiding.. I am who I am
and I make no apologies... if you dont like me, dont read my posts.. simple
and mature way of dealing with it vs. the childish changing of IDs
pretending to be something your obviously not...
"Social Justice Seeker" <S...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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FUCK U USENET WHORE. OH WAIT I FORGOT - THATS ALREDY BEEN DONE.
BTW - "NET SPANKER" WAS INVENTED ON DEC. 30... IT ORIG. IN UK. YOUR PAL
"COPPER KETTLE" ALSO IN THIS & OTHER THREADS OF YOURS APPEARS REGLAR IN YOUR
MENTAL ILLNESS GROUPS.... BECUZ BOTH NAMES R YOUR "WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARIES".
U LIKE MY SPELLING
FAKER?
A similar journey as Alex Haley? I really respect his amazing geneology.
. I
> ALSO LISTENED TO THERE 2 LANGUEGES SPOKE IN OUR HOUSE... & SEE BIRTH CERTS
W/
> THAT "OTHER" RACE ON EM...
What "other" does that mean? Are you related to Leo?
E
You're getting paranoid again.. There's a Shawnee behind every bush...
You're begging to be outed boy..
O Negative is the only pure blood you twit..
Never said I was an ndn but we know you are 1/4 whore house honkey.
Is that the same mouth you kiss your wife Carla with?
Bob, take a lesson in US Civil War history, it is not at all like people see
on television or what was written into history books. The men of my tribe
fought for the Union.. protected their homes and families in a very hostile
area of Kansas... The best history on the Civil War will not be found in
books or movies, only in research and a lot of reading of the newspapers
from the time period, along with the records of the units/troops... Stories
of whole families of many races can be found. most stories much greater than
what they have made movies of...
Sunflower area is contaminated and needs cleaning up... a nucelar war head
was kept there many years during the cold war, and this is one of the
reasons why people are not allowed on the property... though I am sure most
of the land is safe, there are areas which are in question.
But the fact remains, I do not have to dig into records seeking some kind of
Indian in my family, they are all around me, we know where we came from, we
know who are ancestors are and we dont have to pretend that some unknown
woman in the 17th century had to be Mohawk....
"jake" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:27:40 -0600, "Keely" <kden...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >LOL.. do you think you really found something? I dont have to try and
force
> >my family to be Indian, they are Indian!
>
> just mirroring your cyberthug Keely..
> you started all this..
>
>
> >
> >FYI since your interested in my family <g> There are members of my family
in
> >the records, Civil War US 14th Cavalry ..
>
> do you mean they were on both sides?
>
>
> >I HAVE been seeking where these
> >members are buried at... since that post, I have been able to locate many
> >Shawnee Indian cemeteries that have NOT been listed due to the fact they
> >have been on the Sunflower area of government restricted access...
>
> they should not be allowed to restrict them to relatives IMO
>
>
> >
> >Would you like more history on my family?
>
> did you ever find records for Squirrel or Hon-Ne-Quah?
>
>
> <flamebait clipped>
>
> >
> >"jake" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
> >news:j7r9vv81s89u12li3...@4ax.com...
> >> On 02 Jan 2004 03:55:34 GMT, brave...@aol.com (BravesHeart) wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >http://www.geocities.com/chief_satiacum/viewgb1.html
> >> >CHECK THIS OUT. DOES THAT LAST LINE SUPRIZE NE1?:
> >>
> >> nobody with self-respect themselves..
> >> but of course that excludes you..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >shawnie vedder - 12/29/98 00:45:16
> >> >My URL:http://adventureangling.com
> >> >My Email:sha...@adventureangling.com
> >> >Favorite Outdoor Activity: shopping
> >> >Favorite Indoor Activity: shopping
> >> >Favorite Song: obsession
> >> >Favorite... Person: me
> >>
> >> Did you buy anything from adventure angling
> >> BH..
> >> or are you just some sort of cyber shoplifter?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/6383/update.htm ( title:
Millie's
> >> >congenital heart defect journal and unbearably cute pictures)
> >>
> >>
> >> >SOME FOLKS WILL PUT ANY GODAMN THING ON THE INTERNET TO GET ATTN.
> >> >...IT SUX WHEN IT VIOLATES A MINORS
> >> >PRIVACY
> >>
> >> Yep..sure does..
> >> so when are you going to quit doing it?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >>
>
>>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/localities.northam.usa.states
> >> >.oregon.counties.tillamook/82
> >> >(SHAWNIE SEEM TO GOT PROBS W/ NAMES & SPELLING
> >>
> >>
> >> LOL!
> >>
> >> suprised YOU have the audacity to even MENTION spelling!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > & IS SNIFFING THRU FAMILY GRAVES
> >>
> >> talking of sniffing through family graves?
> >>
> >>
> >> >TO TRY TO FORCE A FAMILY NAME CHANGE....
> >> >GOTTA TRY PROVIN THAT NATIVE
> >> >CONNECTION)
> >>
> >> nah..you are mixing her up with Keely
> >>
> >> what was keely sneering at about shaking family trees?
> >> hmm..
> >>
> >> http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/miami/queries/query1998a.html
> >>
> >> Query Surnames: Squirrel, Hon-Ne-Quah
> >>
> >> Date: 4 January 1998
> >>
> >> Query:I am seekin information about a Shawnee family. My family could
> >> be
> >> buried under Hon-Ne-Quah, this is Shawnee for Squirrel. It is spelled
> >> phonitically because there is no correct way to spell in Shawnee. My
> >> Uncle
> >> spells it Huniqua
> >>
> >> Keely ova...@midusa.net
> >>
> >> Response: There are no records for Squirrel or Hon-Ne-Quah in the
> >> three
> >> volumes of cemetery records. It appears that most of the records for
> >> Miami
> >> County related to the Miami, Wea, Peoria and Plyankicha tribes. Even
> >> these
> >> records are fairly sparce because the tribes apparently began to
> >> relocate to
> >> Pottawatomie Co, KS, in the late 1840's or early 1850's, although
> >> there are
> >> records for baptisms up till about 1861. Kinsella's book History of
> >> the
> >> Cradleland pp 237-244 lists baptisms, marriages, deaths but mostly
> >> 1846-1848.
> >>
> >> Sean Furniss
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
<nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bf5bb700e27476a8...@news.teranews.com...
>Can you make up anymore ID's to try and make yourself look credible? I dont
>know that you have noticed, but no one here is buying into all your ID's..
isnt it time you packed in this looney tune all my critics are the
same person rubbish.?
.its getting really ridiculous..
Tell us about ALL your children Keely..
I knew I liked you Lisa!
E
> I DIDNT... I LIVED W/ MY ROOTS.
You got a paternity test proves you were the natural son of the people who
raised you?
If not, for all we know you were abandoned on their doorstep by an unwed
german or russian woman and are as aryan as they come ---what with the
personality traits and behavior you display.
Unless you are paying someone's frieght---they don't have to defend
themselves to you and vice versa.
So get over yourself already...and quit destroying this ng with your
egomania.
>>Subject: Re: The department was quite familiar with Keely Squirrel Denning
>>From: "Net Spanker"
>
>USENET & GOOGLE GROUPS R QUITE FAMILAR W/
"JAKE" AKA BOB WHELAN
you quite sure about that are you lamebrain?
any evidence..
or are you just recyling others shit dredged from the sewers
as per usual?
& NOSPAM AKA
>"SHAWNIE VEDDER"...
:>)
>IF U WANT CHAPTER & VERSE ON ETHER 1 GO TO GOOGLE CLICK ON GROUPS & PUT
>ETHER NAME IN THE SEARCH BLOCK. THATLL BRING U POSTS FROM ENUF FOLKS & GROUPS
>THEY HAVE OFFENDED TO GAG A MULE
yep...racists.. KKK..child abusers...bullies
drug pushers ..criminals..neonazis..deranged
psychotics..blackmailers..liars..cheats..and
all the way down to anonymous childstalking freaks like yourself..
are most offended..
it was a twisted anonymous headcase
just like you posted Michael Two Horses details wasnt it?
think hed be proud of you?
loke father like son they say ..
Yeah sure.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree---and your being a big mouth
malicious gossip suggests you are descended from a long line of bigmouth
malicious gossips.
If you *are* a genetic mutation in a long line of great people, then you
have disgraced your forbears by the behavior you engage in here so badly
they are all turning over in their graves out of shame of having fought so
hard to survive such harsh living only to have you as their progeny.
Pull yourself together and act like the descendent of a great people instead
of such a dirtbag.
>SAVE IT CARLA WHORE.
you have just got to stop confusing every woman with your
grandmother..
>NOBODY BUYS NUTHIN U SAY OR NONE OF YOUR UMTEEN
>PERSNALITYS & GAZILON SCREEN NAMES. BETTER RENAME YOUR "BABY" U CLAIM TO EXPECT
>"SYBIL". & THIS SHOWS
this shows..as usual you are clueless as to who you address
>Everyone including you had to start some where in confirming their roots and
>identity
>
>I DIDNT...
thats your chief problem..you didnt..
there are two types of identity ..belonging identity and awareness
identity..
you know what you are but not who you are..
identity has to be achieved ..its not just a function of your race or
what you own..
otherwise you are no better than a social insect..
which in your case seems about right..
>I LIVED W/ MY ROOTS. ALL I HAD TO DO WAS LOOK EM IN THE FACE. . I
>ALSO LISTENED TO THERE 2 LANGUEGES SPOKE IN OUR HOUSE... & SEE BIRTH CERTS W/
>THAT "OTHER" RACE ON EM...
you have to transcend that hatred and bitterness youre not that
little boy now..you are what passes for a man..
>NO REAL NDN GOTTA LOOK 4 NUTHIN. ITS STARIN EM IN
>THE FACE
so all your cybermistresses research is in vain is it?
> U GODAMN PHONY TWIT...
the person you so foolishly address here has not the remotest interest
in ndn ancestors ndns..any race or culture would be ashamed of you..
as deep down you are ashamed of yourself..
>QUIT YOUR GODAMN FAKIN U LOUSY ASS PHONY WHITE
>TRASH
you are the trash and you know it..
the person you so foolishly address does not come from a family of
mentally unbalanced alcoholics and prostitutes..
>& GO BACK TO YOUR MANIA GROUP WHERE U FIT IN.
thats where YOU fit in and you know it..
after all its their fantasies you are recycling..
perhaps they could even help you..
stranger things have happened..
bet Carla loves your potty talk.
Poor woman coming all this way to end up with a
sexual fuck up like you.
she would have done better to stay in Florida.
OH WAIT I FORGOT - THATS ALREDY BEEN DONE.
Yes most people have a sex life, they dont need the mailman to get them
pregnant
unless they are stuck with you.
weren't you concieved that way, or were you found under a stone?
> BTW - "NET SPANKER" WAS INVENTED ON DEC. 30... IT ORIG. IN UK. YOUR PAL
> "COPPER KETTLE"
clean your foul mouth out before daring to take my name in vain.
ALSO IN THIS & OTHER THREADS OF YOURS APPEARS REGLAR IN YOUR
> MENTAL ILLNESS GROUPS.... BECUZ BOTH NAMES R YOUR "WHOLLY OWNED
SUBSIDIARIES".
> U LIKE MY SPELLING
> FAKER?
I guess that makes some sort of sense to you.
to think your mom came all the way from ocmulgee river to spawn
a psychotic foulmothed child stalker thats attacks pregnant women
get help
fair comment..
readingthe group history I was appalled but he took in in good spirit.
the world is a poorer place with his loss.
>There are plenty of records on the Squirrel family :o) thank you so much for
>asking <vbg>
>
>Bob, take a lesson in US Civil War history, it is not at all like people see
>on television or what was written into history books.
Im sure not..
History is rewritten by the victors as a rule..
> The men of my tribe
>fought for the Union.. protected their homes and families in a very hostile
>area of Kansas... The best history on the Civil War will not be found in
>books or movies, only in research and a lot of reading of the newspapers
>from the time period, along with the records of the units/troops... Stories
>of whole families of many races can be found. most stories much greater than
>what they have made movies of...
ah..so there is a place for qualitative reaearch after all?
>
>Sunflower area is contaminated and needs cleaning up... a nucelar war head
>was kept there many years during the cold war, and this is one of the
>reasons why people are not allowed on the property... though I am sure most
>of the land is safe, there are areas which are in question.
sheesh..
>But the fact remains, I do not have to dig into records seeking some kind of
>Indian in my family,
nobody HAS to Keeley..but many people research the geneology of their
family origins..they need no permission from you or anybody else..
>they are all around me, we know where we came from, we
>know who are ancestors are
you are an American Keely..you were raised as white and hated going
to the ndn school..
>and we dont have to pretend that some unknown
>woman in the 17th century had to be Mohawk....
thou doth protest too much.
Would be a damned good idea to follow your own advice! PLONK!
Now, why did I think if I was civil to you that you would not respond with
an emotional rant? Guess what, I didn't! I am always amazed by how
threatened you must feel to respond that way. You really need to stop that
wacky tabacky habit of yours, BH, don't you know it will make you paranoid?
Is that what you grow in that bomb shelter of yours? I wonder what your
power bill must be like. My brother in law works for the utility down your
way. Would you like me to send him out to your farm and check your meter?
Send me your address, OK?
E
>SUCK UP TO THE FAKER TROLLS ASS ALL U WANNA BIGMOUTH BULLSHITTER. U AINT NO
>BETTER THEN SHE IS. POSTIN TRASH ABOUT
>THE MURDER OF A BABY ON HERE
it was your manic chums that you invited startted posting about the
murder of a baby egged on by you or have you conveniently
forgotten..
you and virtually you alone set the climate of pure filth here..
and you cybermistress cleans the act up..
> & PUTTIN A POSTER HERES NAME IN YOUR LIBEL IS
>ABOUT AS LOW AS IT GOES.
have you totally lost your tenous grip on reality?
you have just posted what you imagine is my ex-wifes name amd
address..
where the fuck do you think a stinking piece of low life
trash like you gets off preaching about anything?
> U DIDNT JUST "POP IN" U FUCKIN LIAR. YOUR PAL FROM
>WA
>EMAILED U TO COME OVER & HELP HER "VICTIMHOOD" ALONG.
A) you are paranoid
B) read my lips..the victimhood is all yours..
It already is ..you just dont know it yet..
you sad sad apology for a human being..
. U DIDNT JUST "POP IN" U FUCKIN LIAR. YOUR PAL FROM
>WA
>EMAILED U TO COME OVER & HELP HER "VICTIMHOOD" ALONG. TO BAD IT DONT FLY W/
>NOBODY ON THIS BOARD INCL. YOUR AUNT
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>SAVE IT BRIT TWIT. U DONT CUT NO ICE AROUND HERE
and just where in your deluded brain do you imagine
*here* might be?
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Dan
>>Subject: Re: The department was quite familiar with Keely Squirrel Denning's
>>termination
>>From: brave...@aol.com (BravesHeart)
>>Date: 1/2/04 1:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <20040102040836...@mb-m11.aol.com>
>>
>>SUCK UP TO THE FAKER TROLLS ASS ALL U WANNA BIGMOUTH BULLSHITTER. U AINT NO
>>BETTER THEN SHE IS.
>
>. U DIDNT JUST "POP IN" U FUCKIN LIAR. YOUR PAL FROM
>>WA
>>EMAILED U TO COME OVER & HELP HER "VICTIMHOOD" ALONG. TO BAD IT DONT FLY W/
>>NOBODY ON THIS BOARD INCL. YOUR AUNT
>
>You can report Braveheart's net abuse to AOL at AB...@AOL.com
>
>Per the AOL guidelines BH is in violation of his terms of service with AOL
thank you..
Indeed this foulmouthed obscene troll that befouls this usenet group
from anomymnity.. whilst publicing other posters family details..
names and adresses of wives and children..is in gross breach..
and I am aware that that both he and Keely could be TOSed in a
heartbeat.. but its against my principles..and in any event seems a
little unfair seeing as my TOS give a greater freedom of expression..
I will leave it to others to note the hypocrisy of squealing
about reports and lawyers if they even get a the slightest taste of
their own medicine..
I would not be at all suprised if others whose families and
loved ones have been made to suffer feel differently though..
particularly those he insanely berates as all being one person..
which he seems to feel entitles him to heap hatred and obscenities
upon them..
I suspect wiser heads in this forum who care for the welfare of the
group may well contact him back channel in an attempt to get him to
moderate his behaviour..
all things come to an end and I am sure many privately are heartily
sick of the stench and degradation his activities create..
>snt it time you packed in this looney tune all my critics are the
>same person rubbish.?
>
>.its getting really ridiculous..
>
>
well, it duz look a lil suspicious when all da headers are anonymous
>"A man never discloses his character quite so
>clearly as whan he describes anothers."
>
>Jean Paul Richter.
>
so what duz dat signature line say fer u, invalid jake?
it seems u've been quite "descriptive" of others on dis newsgroup
>Only AOL newsgroups are monitored by Community Leaders to keep discussions on
>topic
>
& dat's precisely why there's very few posts any more
on aohell's native speaks message board
*
it's a mickey mouse operation,
what wit posts bein' continually relocated &
changes in message board format
are continually made by white folks like jane o'brien,
who know nuthin' 'bout Ndns
*
summation:
da manner in which da aolhell honchos run their message boards
will make ur ass crave buttermilk
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dis aint 'zackly an "oh, my goodness" type of newsgroup izzit?
*
one can read any & all types of posts here &
sum of 'em would even put a sailor's cussin' to shame
*
summation:
when in rome,
aolhell seems to say u can cuss like da romans do
>
>summation:
>
>when in rome,
>
>aolhell seems to say u can cuss like da romans do
aol will seldom do anything when it is an ongoing flame war...
which this is...
when aol sees the other side of the argument, and they will, if they bother to
investigate, they will just round file the complaint...
had b.h. just come out of the blue, and made the posts, aohell MIGHT take
action...
as it is both sides, i doubt any action would be taken...
besides, one is allowed so many toses per certain time period before being
tossed...
never get between an old lady and her spittoon...
http://hometown.aol.com/wolvbtch/index.html
Free Leonard Peltier
unlike AOL ..supernews and a host of major newservers Google is not
remotely anonymous..
You have been here long enough Lridge to know Ms Denning has a long
long history of these accusations and has driven off many a poster
using theses tactics..
The last time this carry on was instigated a certain poster whose
personal details and that of their child address and phone number
had been posted had slander about them reposted by Ms Denning in the
service of her flame war..
On arrival to state ther objections they were greet with the same
stale ludicrous accusations..and even know BH insists on including
them in his ridiculous rollcall..
Og course none of this arises if issues are discussed rather than
personal attacks and threats being the order of the day..
I am always ready to take my 50% Lridge
how about you?
Why does AN get all the crazy x-posters, anyway, BH?
because BH crossposts flame bait to mental heath groups and makes a
career of abusing the mentally distressed perhaps?
CUZ THEY ALREDY DONE THERE THANG ON DOZENS OF OTHER NGs GOIN BACK SEVRAL YRS. &
THIS
WAS VIRGIN TERRITORY 4 EM I SPOSE. THERE WELL NOWN ON OTHER GROUPS 4 DOIN
EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO HERE. IF U GOOGLE
EM U WILL RUN INTO THE SAME
COMMENTS ABOUT THERE MULTIPLE SNs & DISRUPTION OF
GROUPS & STALKING/ATTACKING OF FOLKS IN USENET GROUPS GOIN BACK TO THE MID 90s.
I NEVER HEARD OF NONE OF EM TIL THE WACKNUT COME ON HERE AS "BRAVESFART"
ATTACKIN EVERYTHING I POSTED. & IT INCREASED IN FURY FROM THERE
W/ THE "MANIA" TO CLAIM NDN ANCESTRY & COOPT YET ANOTHER NG 4 YOUR GAME PLAYIN
when in rome,
aolhell seems to say u can cuss like da romans do
LIKE I GOT THE LEAST WORRY ON IT.
AOLS OWN BOARDS NOW ALLOW EVERY WORD THAT I USED IN THAT
REPLY TO E-LIE/ERIK. THATS AFTER THEY WAS SUBJECTED TO HALF DOZ.
LAWSUITS OVER THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH ISSUE. THERE TOS NOW
INCL. THE PERMITED USE OF VULGARITY ON ADULT AOL MONITERED BOARDS. THAT
"DOCUMENT" CHARLIE CRACKERS WAS QUOTIN THERE IS AT LEAST 8 YRS OLD. AOL DONT
EVEN PATROL THERE OWN BOARDS LIKE THEY DONE WHEN STEVE CASE 1ST START THE
SHOW. TO MANY COMPLAINTS. & THEY DONT PATROL USENET. THEY GOT 20 MIL
SUBSCRIBERS. IF THEY WAS TO PATROL THOSE FOLKS USE OF THE INTERNET THEY WOUDNT
BE ABLE TO STAY IN BIZNESS BECUZ ALL THOSE TOS OFFICES IN THE PHILIPINES INDIA
& ELSEWHERE OVERSEAS WOUD BE SWAMPED... TOS DONT EXIST IN THE USA NO MORE.
ITS IN MANILA & BOMBAY... E-LIE AINT NO AOL MEMBER & NUTHIN I SAID NOWHERE ON
HERE WAS DIRECTED AT NO AOL MEMBER... THERE INTREST IS IN MEMBERS COMPLAINTS
OF STUF DIRECTED VS. THEM. THE NOTION THAT AOL IS JUST WAITIN TO PLAY BIG
BROTHER ANYMORE IS NONSENSE.
BUT THE DUDE WHO BUTTED IN NEW THAT. & E-LIE PUT HIM UP TO IT. BET ON IT
Never happened
E
>
>LIKE I GOT THE LEAST WORRY ON IT.
>AOLS OWN BOARDS NOW ALLOW EVERY WORD THAT I USED IN THAT
>REPLY TO E-LIE/ERIK. THATS AFTER THEY WAS SUBJECTED TO HALF DOZ.
>LAWSUITS OVER THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH ISSUE. THERE TOS NOW
>INCL. THE PERMITED USE OF VULGARITY ON ADULT AOL MONITERED BOARDS.
however, PERSONAL and REPEATED attacks upon a person who has not engaged in a
ongoing flame war will get one tosed...
and tossed...
this situation would hardly apply as innocent victims...
baiting an aol member to respond in an unseemly manner does not qualify as
tosable, i would think...
>
>> BUT THE DUDE WHO BUTTED IN NEW THAT. & E-LIE PUT HIM UP TO IT. BET ON IT
>
>Never happened
>E
i don't think so either...
eli is well aware, i believe, of aol actions, and inactions...
eli has been too busy to be online lately...
>
>Why does AN get all the crazy x-posters, anyway, BH?
they are bored, and like to cause hate, dissension and ugliness...
they are evidently worn out their attention mat on the other boards, so they
come over here...lol...
new worlds to conquer, so to speak...
good old euro traditions...lol...
<flamebait clipped>
>new worlds to conquer, so to speak...
>good old euro traditions...lol...
euros did not have a monopoly on this tradition however..
ask the Huron..
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0824611.html
The long-standing enmity between the Huron and the Iroquois reached a
climax in 1648, when the Iroquois, armed with Dutch firearms, invaded
Huronia and subsequently disrupted (1649) the Huron confederacy.
It was at this time that Father Jean de Brébeuf, who established
(1626) a Roman Catholic mission among the Huron, and other Jesuit
missionaries were killed by the Iroquois. The survivors of the Huron
fled in all directions—southwest to the Tobacco Nation, south to the
Neutral Nation, southeast to the Erie, and northeast to a French fort
near Quebec.
The implacable Iroquois hunted the Huron everywhere; in 1649 the
Iroquois attacked the Tobacco Nation, causing the migration of these
people in company with the Huron. In 1650 the Neutral Nation was
invaded by the Iroquois and practically wiped out, and in 1656 the
Erie were almost exterminated.
i try to refrain
from name callin',
but occasionally,
there comes a time
when a spade's gotta be called a spade
*
a spade, yanno like a feller shovels shit wit
>when the Iroquois, armed with*** Dutch firearms,****
dutch are not euro?
Ex. 1) http://tinyurl.com/232oh
"BravesHeart" <brave...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040102025129...@mb-m11.aol.com...
> SAVE IT SHAWNIE WHORE.
Ex. 2) http://tinyurl.com/2hm6y
Bravesheart wrote:
>
> I DONT WANNA "KILLFILE" NUTHIN. I JUST WANNA KILL ALL OF U. PERIOD.
> TAKE YOURSELFS INCL. QUEEN BRENDA & GO PLAIN STRAIT TO HELL. UNLESS YOUR
> OTHER
> MSG BD GOT ANOTHER NAME 4 IT
>
>
Ex. 3) http://tinyurl.com/26o3d
Bravesheart wrote:
"I DONT WANT NO DAMN TEA. I WANNA BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN"
>>From: jake
>
>>when the Iroquois, armed with*** Dutch firearms,****
>dutch are not euro?
sure they are..
do you think the Ioquois would have
stayed peaceful and mellow but for the Dutch?
>baiting an aol member to respond in an unseemly manner does not qualify as
>tosable, i would think...
>
We will all have to wait and see if AOL "thinks" that is an acceptable excuse
for calling a woman a W.
THIS WHOLE THREAD WAS A ATTACK ON KEELY BY THESE SAME FLAMERS.
& AOL GOT ITS OWN RULES ABOUT FOLKS ENGAGED IN FLAME WARS WHO THEN WHINE 4
ABOUT WHAT THEY GET BACK... . ALL NE1 GOTTA DO IS READ THIS THREAD. & THEY
WILL.... ITS ABOUT AS PERVERTED AS IT GETS. ONLY SICKER THREAD ON
HERE IS THE SAME WACKO GROUPS
THREAD FABRICATIN KEELYS NAME AS THE PERP OF A CRIMNAL ACT IN
A NEWS STORY.
B.H.
You can report Brave...@aol.com lack of remorse for misusing the net to
> AOL GOT ITS OWN RULES ABOUT FOLKS ENGAGED IN FLAME WARS
You can report Brave...@aol.com for net abuse of women, pregnant or
otherwise, to ab...@aol.com
>
>do you think the Ioquois would have
>stayed peaceful and mellow but for the Dutch?
no, perhaps not..
but with euro intervention, incitment, and for what was then wmd, many nations
and tribes would not have mounted such murderous attacks...
euros used deceit, old rivalries, and animosties, with the acquisistion of
guns, (wmd's for then), to help decimate the native population, therefore
clearing more land for themselves...
the old divide and conquer thing..
it was not only used over here, but well used in other parts of the world,
also...
the most recent maybe is the israel/palestinian conflict...
british born and nurtured...
>>From: jake
>
>>
>>do you think the Ioquois would have
>>stayed peaceful and mellow but for the Dutch?
>
>no, perhaps not..
>but with euro intervention, incitment, and for what was then wmd, many nations
>and tribes would not have mounted such murderous attacks...
>euros used deceit, old rivalries, and animosties, with the acquisistion of
>guns, (wmd's for then), to help decimate the native population, therefore
>clearing more land for themselves...
>the old divide and conquer thing..
>it was not only used over here, but well used in other parts of the world,
>also...
yes..you are right of course..
>the most recent maybe is the israel/palestinian conflict...
>british born and nurtured...
very true..
theres no argument about that
>Bravesheart posting that poor womans address and
>urging fellow pychos to get in touch
>with her seems a matter for the police to me.
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/%7Edabrent/380/webproj/jessica.html
In 1990, in response to the stalking and murder of Rebecca Schaeffer,
California became the first state to pass anti-stalking laws.
According to the criminal laws, "a stalker is someone who willfully,
maliciously and repeatedly follows or harasses another victim and who
makes a credible threat with the intent to place the victim or
victim's immediate family in fear for their safety" (Privacy Rights
Clearinghouse).
One LAPD source said that Bardo had stalked her for a long time. But
this stalking was unusual. Bardo had tracked Schaeffer using computer
data banks that told him where she lived, her telephone number, whom
she called, what kind of car she drove, and where she shopped. Bardo
may have been physically distanced from his obsession but the computer
electronically made him feel near to her.
At about this time, mass popularity of the Internet arose and a new
form of stalking, through the World Wide Web emerged. Bardo missed by
months the much easier access to personal information afforded today's
harassers by the Internet. Stalking and harassment are crimes that
many people are familiar with in real life, but these problems can
also occur on the Internet.
Cyberstalking or online harassment is an electronic extension of the
real life form of stalking that Robert John Bardo made famous. As a
reaction to this new crime many Internet victims have been stricken
with fear. Today, it is through awareness and education that users are
protecting themselves from cyberstalkers to avoid the escalation to
real life stalking which Rebecca Schaeffer experienced with Robert
John Bardo.
Stalking has often been described as an issue of control: their
control of you. Awareness begins with realizing the solution is to
reverse this situation and take back control. Often victims of
Cyberstalking do not take the problem seriously until it becomes a
case of real life stalking. People listen in the real world when you
tell them you're being stalked by a crazed maniac. Their response to
such a crime in the cyber world is "turn off the computer?" or "If you
can't handle that kind of thing, then don't surf the net!!".
People assume "it's just a bunch of words. How can this affect me?"
Online harassment can get to the point where your harasser bombards
you with messages of hate and obscenity and eventually traces your
home phone number and address, bringing Cyberstalking into the real
world. Today,there is an increasing number of cases where the stalking
of a person begins through the Internet and eventually escalates into
real world stalking.
Cyberstalking can take many forms. Unsolicited e-mail, including hate,
obscene, or threatening mail, is probably one of the most common forms
of harassment. Live chat harassment abuses the victim directly through
electronic sabotage (e.g.- flooding your Internet chat channel to
disrupt your conversation).
With Usenet or news groups, the cyberstalker can create postings
about you or start evil rumors which spread through this bulletin
board. More complex forms of harassment include mailbombs, sending the
victim virii or electronic junk mail (spamming). But remember these
highlighted forms of cyberstalking, can easily escalate into real life
stalking incidents such as threatening phone calls, vandalism of your
property, threatening mail and even physical attacks
In relation to Usenet news groups consider using an anonymous remailer
(or E-mail alias service) to post messages to the Usenet. You can draw
unwelcome attention to yourself if you post messages to news groups on
the Usenet - by posting such material you are also posting your E-mail
address. Consider using an anonymous remailer so that you can post
anonymously to the Usenet. Although posts are deleted from the News
server after a short period of time, posts are often stored in the
Usenet's archives, which means anyone at a later date can read all the
posts you ever made, by using a Usenet search engine. With an
anonymous remailer this danger is eliminated.
In compiling research for this paper one of the most important
recommendations made was to use common sense. It was advised for users
to realize that they should assume all their online communications are
public unless otherwise stated. Users should be aware that the
'delete' command does not mean the information disappears, it easily
accessible by others. In addition, the more the user knows about the
equipment they are using on the Internet, the less likely they are to
fall prey to online harassment.
Cyberstalking is a relatively new form of electronic crime. Its
victims are mostly invisible and its violence is primarily verbal. Yet
to often online harassment escalates into real life stalking, where
its victims are largely female and its crimes can include murder.
It is through awareness and education that many Internet users are
now trying to prevent cyberstalking from escalating into real life
stalking. Barbara Jenson states in her article, Cyberstalking,Crime,
Enforcement and Personal Responsibility In The On-Line World, that
victims of online harassment should remember "stick and stones" when
dealing with the verbal assaults that their cyberstalkers launch.
Unfortunately, for many victims such as Rebecca Schaeffer she never
had the opportunity to realize that Robert John Bardo had moved beyond
"sticks and stones".
Death threats on the internet are no joke, they're a serious matter.
This is just the tip of the iceberg with BravesHeart. He's threatened
me in the past, *and* encouraged others to stalk and attempt to attack
me. I see he hasn't changed much--- if so, he's changed for the worse,
apparently.
Will
Mirror Twins Mp3, free perview:
http://www.lulu.com/content/29085
what's da deal on aol.comnotrash addy,
is dis another bravesfart deal?