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freedom

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Jul 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/21/00
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Since Ken is having so much difficulty proving his claims, I've added a
few more items to the list. If Ken provides proof for any of these
claims, I will take my web pages down and leave the group, as I have
specified at http://www.anet.com/~freedom/terms.html.

Claims of Ken's which have been added to the list:

That I "blackmailed women into having sex" with me during my enlistment
in the Marine Corps.
That I have made "threats" against Ken's wife and daughter.
That he has seen my consumer credit report, and that I hold anything
other than an exemplary credit rating.
That Stacy Alexander's husband was "fired" from his job.

These, of course, are in addition to Ken's numerous other fish stories.

PangK

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Jul 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/22/00
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>From: freedom anm...@mixmaster.shinn.net
>Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, fl.general, wi.general,
>alt.radio.oldtime

>Since Ken is having so much difficulty proving his claims, I've added a
>few more items to the list

Seems SOME have been removed now that I mention that data is on its way.
Since David HAS given his PERMISSION to post ANY and ALL info I get ON THE NET
I think we will find this interesting. It has been promised to me in the next 7
-10 days. LOTS of juicy tid-bits.

AGAIN Moore, as I did on soc.veterans when you demanded I post your "serial
number" to PROVE I had seen your discharge info, be VERY SURE when you
challenge me that you don't again act like a 2 year old and HOWL when I DO post
what YOU demand.

My only question is whether you will leave USENET FOREVER?? Is your WORD worth
anything?

freedom

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Jul 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/22/00
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Attempting to weasel his way out, Ken Pangborn tries to claim that I
have "removed" certain statements from the Challenge:


On 22 Jul 2000 11:36:35 GMT pa...@aol.com (PangK) wrote:

>>From: freedom anm...@mixmaster.shinn.net
>>Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, fl.general, wi.general,
>>alt.radio.oldtime
>
>>Since Ken is having so much difficulty proving his claims, I've added a
>>few more items to the list
>
>Seems SOME have been removed now that I mention that data is on its way.

Liar. Nothing has been removed. But, just for fun, let's tear apart
yet another Ken Pangborn lie:

First of all, here's the list as posted by me a week ago:


Subject: List of Ken Pangborn's lies
Date: 07/15/2000
Author: freedom
Group: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated

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Following is a summary of Ken Pangborn's lies about me and others over
the past two years. He has made these claims repeatedly, but has yet to
provide any evidence whatsoever for a single one of these claims.

That I was dishonorably discharged from the Marine Corps (or
variations of this lie, stating that I was discharged under anything
other than honorable
circumstances.).
That I "impersonated an AOL Postmaster" in an attempt to "extort sex
from a female AOL user".
That I "beat" my ex-wife.
That a restraining order exists, or existed at one time, which ordered
me to stay "1000 miles" away from my ex-wife and my child. That "over
1900
people" have requested copies of my divorce paperwork, as a result of
their anger with me on usenet.
That I have "forged posts".
That I have been "kicked off" of more internet service providers "than
anyone in history".
That I have "plagiarized" material which appears on my father's rights
web site.
That I had been "fired" from many jobs, was "unemployed", or had
"difficulty keeping a job".
That I had an extramarital affair on my ex-wife.
That my current wife committed adultery when she was with her previous
husband.
That I was the author of "Rape for Dummies" posts.
That I was the author of hundreds of anonymous posts attacking
Pangborn.
That I have made posts to "the sex newsgroups" inviting people to rape


Ken's wife and daughter.

That Stacy Alexander's father molested her.
That Michael Newton had claimed to be a "chidl abuse SUVRIVOR". That
Wilbur Streett had claimed ownership of numerous psychology and
computer technology degrees.
That Will Rainey was really me.
That Rob Wedlock was really me.
That Thomas (plu...@aol.com) was really Wilbur.
That Goodfather had beaten his child.

..the list is endless.

----------------------

And, of course, the current list can be viewed at
http://www.anet.com/~freedom/claims.html. I challenge Pangborn or
anyone to compare these lists and point out which items I have
"removed".

>Since David HAS given his PERMISSION to post ANY and ALL info I get ON THE NET
>I think we will find this interesting.

No, I haven't given you any such "permission". I said that you are
welcome to post anything which PROVES any of your claims. In this
case, this would be a government document which states that my military
discharge was anything other than honorable. Or an order signed by a
judge which states that I am to stay one thousand miles away from my
wife and child. Since no such paperwork exists, it will be interesting
to see you post something completely irrelevant and then try to explain
how it proves your lies.


> It has been promised to me in the next 7
>-10 days. LOTS of juicy tid-bits.

None of which will address or support any of your lies which are
archived at http://www.anet.com/~freedom/claims.html

>
>AGAIN Moore, as I did on soc.veterans when you demanded I post your "serial
>number" to PROVE I had seen your discharge info,

I never demanded that you post my "serial number".


be VERY SURE when you
>challenge me that you don't again act like a 2 year old and HOWL when I DO post
>what YOU demand.

If you post proof that I was discharged under other than honorable
circumstances, or that I'm required to stay 1,000 miles away from my
wife and child, you will have nothing to worry about. Since no such
information ever existed, my guess is that you're either bluffing or
that you'll post some completely irrelevant information and then scream
about how it proves your claim.


>
>My only question is whether you will leave USENET FOREVER??

No, I won't. There will be no need to, as there isn't a single
truthful claim at http://www.anet.com/~freedom/claims.html.


Paul

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Jul 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/22/00
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PangK
Re: The DAVE MOORE ANET Challenge update


From: freedom anm...@mixmaster.shinn.net
Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, fl.general,
wi.general, alt.radio.oldtime

Since Ken is having so much difficulty proving his claims,
I've added a few more items to the list

Seems SOME have been removed now that I mention that data is

on its way. Since David HAS given his PERMISSION to post ANY

and
ALL info I get ON THE NET I think we will find this

interesting. It has been promised to me in the next 7

-10 days. LOTS of juicy tid-bits.

AGAIN Moore, as I did on soc.veterans when you demanded I

post your "serial number" to PROVE I had seen your discharge

info, be


VERY SURE when you challenge me that you don't again act like
a 2 year old and HOWL when I DO post what YOU demand.

My only question is whether you will leave USENET FOREVER??

Is your WORD worth anything?

Anticipating that you would make this claim, copies of the
list were mailed out to various ASTC members, lawyers and
Wisconsin and Florida judges. Nothing has been removed from
the web site, Kennyboy. Not one of your lies has left there.
A few more of your lies have been added, though. Which one of
your lies specifically are you going to try to prove with
this "vey, vey , vey important "information" from THE
COMMANDER???!!!!!??? Which one, Kenny? Coming up with some
random bullshit that you will attempt to use as a smoke
screen? More anticipated desperation. You can post whatever
you want to. It doesn't bother me because the list of lies
that are posted on the web site cannot be proven since they
are lies. Which one of the lies that you told that are posted
on the web site are you trying to address? Since they are
all lies, you'll never prove anything.


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