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CindyLover

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Apr 10, 2003, 2:08:35 PM4/10/03
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According to C21, "The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial
rights to the second season of Alias." This was at the end of an
article about C4's latest deals with Warner Bros. Here's the full
piece for any interested parties:

UK broadcaster Channel 4 has inked a deal with Warner Bros.
International Television Distribution to secure continued rights to a
package of US shows including Friends, ER and The West Wing.

Under the new agreement, Channel 4 and its digital entertainment
offshoot, E4, now holds terrestrial and non-terrestrial rights to the
new series of The Sopranos, Smallville, The West Wing, ER and Friends,
along with all re-runs of the long-running comedy show.

The package also contains FBI drama Without A Trace (22x60') produced
by Jerry Bruckheimer Television in association with Warner Bros
Television and CBS Productions. From the same stable as CSI: Crime
Scene Investigation, the show stars Anthony LaPaglia and Marianne
Jean-Baptiste and will air on Channel 4 later this year.

"Our series have always thrived on Channel 4 and we are proud of the
contribution we have made to E4’s launch and continued growth,"
said president of WBITV Jeffrey Schlesinger. [Does he know how C4 is
mucking about with most of their shows?] "We are pleased that our
great relationship with Channel 4 and E4 will continue with this new
deal."

In addition, Channel 4 has struck a deal with Sky Television for the
terrestrial rights to the second series of Disney's medical comedy
Scrubs.

The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial rights to the second
season of Alias.


If I were in charge of acquisitions for Five, I know what I'd be doing
now...

CindyLover

Dom Robinson

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Apr 10, 2003, 2:29:38 PM4/10/03
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In article <ac4ef2df.03041...@posting.google.com>,
Cindylo...@aol.com says...

> The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial rights to the second
> season of Alias.
>
>
> If I were in charge of acquisitions for Five, I know what I'd be doing
> now...
>
Any chance of anyone showing Alias again but in an adult timeslot uncut and in
16:9?
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Apr 10, 2003, 2:58:02 PM4/10/03
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On 10 Apr 2003 11:08:35 -0700, Cindylo...@aol.com (CindyLover)
wrote:

Their own fault. I was going to watch it until I realised that they
were marketing it as a children's programme and had cut loads out.
Stupid fuckers -- they deserve it.

Peter Weir

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Apr 10, 2003, 5:01:51 PM4/10/03
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"Krustov" <webm...@krustov.co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
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> <uk.media.tv.misc , CindyLover , Cindylo...@aol.com>

>
> > According to C21, "The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial
> > rights to the second season of Alias."
> >
>
> The second series has lost much of what the first series had and so far
> it looks like it wont be much of a loss .
>
> SD6 must be pretty dumb if they dont 'click' every operation sydney is
> sent on goes wrong or they only get part information .
>
> The dead wife thingy is getting to be more effective than mogadon .
>
> The tippin thingy is "why is he still in the series ?????" .
>
> Alias has a few more weeks before I kiss it goodbye :-(

I assume you're watching it on Sky One? I strongly suggest that you give it
some more time: it's just keeping on improving this season...

Peter


Jan Buxton

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Apr 10, 2003, 3:03:17 PM4/10/03
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In news:ac4ef2df.03041...@posting.google.com,
CindyLover <Cindylo...@aol.com> was driven to type:

> Under the new agreement, Channel 4 and its digital entertainment
> offshoot, E4, now holds terrestrial and non-terrestrial rights to the
> new series of The Sopranos, Smallville, The West Wing, ER and Friends,
> along with all re-runs of the long-running comedy show.

The Sopranos? Surely not as part of this deal, it being a HBO show.

<snip>


> In addition, Channel 4 has struck a deal with Sky Television for the
> terrestrial rights to the second series of Disney's medical comedy
> Scrubs.

Yeah!

--
Jan

NJJH

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Apr 10, 2003, 8:10:36 PM4/10/03
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:03:17 +0100, "Jan Buxton" <ja...@eidosnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>In news:ac4ef2df.03041...@posting.google.com,
>CindyLover <Cindylo...@aol.com> was driven to type:
>> Under the new agreement, Channel 4 and its digital entertainment
>> offshoot, E4, now holds terrestrial and non-terrestrial rights to the
>> new series of The Sopranos, Smallville, The West Wing, ER and Friends,
>> along with all re-runs of the long-running comedy show.
>
>The Sopranos? Surely not as part of this deal, it being a HBO show.

HBO being a AOL Time Warner / Warner Bros Company, although methinks
they try to keep it quiet, like with 'indy' record labels.

NJJH

Bit Cloud

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Apr 10, 2003, 9:15:54 PM4/10/03
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On 10 Apr 2003 11:08:35 -0700, Cindylo...@aol.com (CindyLover)
wrote:

<Snip other stuff>

>The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial rights to the second
>season of Alias.

Can't say that I'm sorry Ch4 didn't pick up the second season, after
all they have no respect for the show or it's fans.

>If I were in charge of acquisitions for Five, I know what I'd be doing
>now...

Nooooo, they would stick it in an 8pm slot ala Dark Angel.

CindyLover

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Apr 10, 2003, 10:46:07 PM4/10/03
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CindyLover:

> > Under the new agreement, Channel 4 and its digital entertainment
> > offshoot, E4, now holds terrestrial and non-terrestrial rights to the
> > new series of The Sopranos, Smallville, The West Wing, ER and Friends,
> > along with all re-runs of the long-running comedy show.
Jan Buxton:

> The Sopranos? Surely not as part of this deal, it being a HBO show.

HBO is owned by AOL Time Warner, who also own... you guessed it.

CindyLover

CindyLover

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Apr 11, 2003, 2:06:29 AM4/11/03
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> >The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial rights to the second
> >season of Alias.
>
> Can't say that I'm sorry Ch4 didn't pick up the second season, after
> all they have no respect for the show or it's fans.
>
> >If I were in charge of acquisitions for Five, I know what I'd be doing
> >now...
>
> Nooooo, they would stick it in an 8pm slot ala Dark Angel.

Or they might not. At least they wouldn't have it on at teatime.

CindyLover

Dom Robinson

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Apr 11, 2003, 3:46:54 AM4/11/03
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AIUI they sliced-and-diced Dark Angel for its 7pm slot.

Steven Blue

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Apr 11, 2003, 3:49:40 AM4/11/03
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"Krustov" <webm...@krustov.co.uk.INVALID> wrote in message
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> <uk.media.tv.misc , CindyLover , Cindylo...@aol.com>
>
> > According to C21, "The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial
> > rights to the second season of Alias."
> >
>
> The second series has lost much of what the first series had and so far
> it looks like it wont be much of a loss .
>
> SD6 must be pretty dumb if they dont 'click' every operation sydney is
> sent on goes wrong or they only get part information .

Without giving any spoilers, there is more to it than you think.


NO LOGO

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Apr 11, 2003, 5:15:07 AM4/11/03
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"Dom Robinson" <murphyi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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you mean

Sliced, Diced, and RED DOTed....


G Bell

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Apr 11, 2003, 5:26:09 AM4/11/03
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"Jan Buxton" <ja...@eidosnet.co.uk> writes:

>In news:ac4ef2df.03041...@posting.google.com,
>CindyLover <Cindylo...@aol.com> was driven to type:
>> Under the new agreement, Channel 4 and its digital entertainment
>> offshoot, E4, now holds terrestrial and non-terrestrial rights to the
>> new series of The Sopranos, Smallville, The West Wing, ER and Friends,
>> along with all re-runs of the long-running comedy show.

>The Sopranos? Surely not as part of this deal, it being a HBO show.

HBO's owned by AOL/Time Warner.

Graham

Kieran Seymour

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Apr 11, 2003, 6:12:43 AM4/11/03
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"Dom Robinson" <murphyi...@hotmail.com> wrote

> Cindylo...@aol.com says...
> > The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial rights to the
> > second season of Alias.
> >
> > If I were in charge of acquisitions for Five, I know what I'd be
> > doing now...
> >
> Any chance of anyone showing Alias again but in an adult timeslot
> uncut and in 16:9?

It still won't be of any use to me. I couldn't watch S1 on Sky and
deliberately avoided the Channel 4 showing. Anyone picking it up will
presumably only be able to buy S2 onwards because Channel 4 will hang onto the
repeat rights for a nice 3.30am slot in 18 months time.

What a bloody mess...

Kieran
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ZC TGS

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Apr 11, 2003, 6:47:23 AM4/11/03
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:31:17 +0100, Krustov
<webm...@krustov.co.uk.INVALID> wrote:

><uk.media.tv.misc , CindyLover , Cindylo...@aol.com>
>

>> According to C21, "The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial
>> rights to the second season of Alias."
>>
>

>The second series has lost much of what the first series had and so far
>it looks like it wont be much of a loss .
>
>SD6 must be pretty dumb if they dont 'click' every operation sydney is
>sent on goes wrong or they only get part information .
>

>The dead wife thingy is getting to be more effective than mogadon .
>
>The tippin thingy is "why is he still in the series ?????" .


Many of these questions are answered in the second half of Season 2.

George Delamere

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Apr 11, 2003, 10:06:44 AM4/11/03
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Never ceases to amaze me how little UK networks seem to understand genre TV.
Although Alias isn't strictly genre TV but seems to have been treated in
exactly the same way.

You'd think by now after what must be hundreds and thousands of letters
about various TV shows, they'd now realise that most genre TV fans are not
children and we'd like to see our shows uncut, thanks very much.

Alias is a classic case of what happens what a network totally
misunderstands what it has purchased. Or maybe it doesn't care? But then
that makes even less sense. You buy a show and then air it in such a way
that most of the audience that would be interested in seeing it, won't watch
because of the ridiculous scheduling.

Again, as with Angel S1, it was shown at the wrong time, to the wrong
audience, and those who were actually the target audience didn't watch
because the early showing meant some savage cutting.

And as with Angel, once they'd mangled S1, a lot of the potential audience
was gone. And the more devoted fans will usually find other ways of seeing
the show..

And this is what I really don't understand. C4 have clearly scuppered the
viewers chances of watching and enjoying Alias, but obviously they have
ruined their own chances of airing a show which in the right timeslot might
have gained a reasonable audience. It seems to make so little sense in a
business & ratings way as much as every other way.


Steeler

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Apr 11, 2003, 11:12:22 AM4/11/03
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"CindyLover" <Cindylo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> According to C21, "The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial
> rights to the second season of Alias." This was at the end of an
> article about C4's latest deals with Warner Bros. Here's the full
> piece for any interested parties:
>

Sky seems to be very happy with the ratings in its 9 pm slot and are
marketing the fuck out of it. C4 learn that kids don't like it and adults
hate the cuts (a lesson they should have learn't from Angel - another series
that goes down well on sky).


Cheddar

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Apr 11, 2003, 11:38:06 AM4/11/03
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> The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial rights to the second
> season of Alias.
>


Do you know what Channel 4 can do, they can go and fuck off royally.

I am a big fan of Alias, it's got everything going for it. The cast
are fantastic, the plot lines are great and the show is put together
superbly. If i'm not mistaken America has finally woken upto exactly
how good this show is.

As for channel 4 it beggers belief that they could show it at 6:00pm
and try to make it into some kind of kids action show. The version
they showed was cut to shreds, and just ruined the show.

Screw em, at least Sky are showing it and now at a later time of
9:00pm.

Cheddar


Dom Robinson

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Apr 11, 2003, 12:40:20 PM4/11/03
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In article <b7612r$m56$1...@hercules.btinternet.com>, e304233...@hotmail.com
says...

>
> "Dom Robinson" <murphyi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1900832cd...@news.cis.dfn.de...
> > In article <ac4ef2df.03041...@posting.google.com>,
> > Cindylo...@aol.com says...
> > > > >The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial rights to the second
> > > > >season of Alias.
> > > >
> > > > Can't say that I'm sorry Ch4 didn't pick up the second season, after
> > > > all they have no respect for the show or it's fans.
> > > >
> > > > >If I were in charge of acquisitions for Five, I know what I'd be
> doing
> > > > >now...
> > > >
> > > > Nooooo, they would stick it in an 8pm slot ala Dark Angel.
> > >
> > > Or they might not. At least they wouldn't have it on at teatime.
> > >
> > AIUI they sliced-and-diced Dark Angel for its 7pm slot.
> > --
> you mean
>
> Sliced, Diced, and RED DOTed....

I was referring to Five's treatment of Dark Angel.

Dom Robinson

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Apr 11, 2003, 12:55:46 PM4/11/03
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In article <xywla.732$Aq1...@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net>,
kieran....@ntlworld.com says...

> "Dom Robinson" <murphyi...@hotmail.com> wrote
> > Cindylo...@aol.com says...
> > > The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial rights to the
> > > second season of Alias.
> > >
> > > If I were in charge of acquisitions for Five, I know what I'd be
> > > doing now...
> > >
> > Any chance of anyone showing Alias again but in an adult timeslot
> > uncut and in 16:9?
>
> It still won't be of any use to me. I couldn't watch S1 on Sky and
> deliberately avoided the Channel 4 showing. Anyone picking it up will
> presumably only be able to buy S2 onwards because Channel 4 will hang onto the
> repeat rights for a nice 3.30am slot in 18 months time.
>
> What a bloody mess...

I don't mind what time they show it uncut as long as they do it, but if it'd
red-dotted then they can shove it.

Carl Waring

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"Bit Cloud" <bitc...@blitzteam.spam> wrote in message
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So? IIRC, that was the time SO showed it.


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Dom Robinson

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Apr 11, 2003, 2:58:05 PM4/11/03
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In article <kNDla.19010$dj7.14...@news-text.cableinet.net>,
cwa...@blueyonder.co.uk says...
Five used to start it usually between 7-8pm. Sky showed it at 9pm as
Star Trek Something always occupied the 8pm slot (or Andromeda)

Bit Cloud

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AFAIK it was 9pm for S1, then moved to 8pm for S2 with a latenight
repeat which I can't remember if it was uncut or not.

Was hoping to get it on DVD, but I'm a little overstretched because of
DS9/Buffy/Angel this year.

Bit Cloud

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Apr 11, 2003, 4:03:40 PM4/11/03
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On 10 Apr 2003 23:06:29 -0700, Cindylo...@aol.com (CindyLover)
wrote:

The possibility that they might treat it with the same views as Dark
Angel is a little too unsettling for me, however if they did pick it
up I don't think it would be possible for Five to best Ch4's bad
treatment.

Only watch Five for CSI: Vegas/Miami, Boomtown and some Dark Angel now
and again.

Carl Waring

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"Dom Robinson" <murphyi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <kNDla.19010$dj7.14...@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> cwa...@blueyonder.co.uk says...
> > "Bit Cloud" <bitc...@blitzteam.spam> wrote in message
> > news:2d5c9vcj3a3devshi...@4ax.com...
> > > On 10 Apr 2003 11:08:35 -0700, Cindylo...@aol.com (CindyLover)
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > <Snip other stuff>
> > >
> > > >The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial rights to the second
> > > >season of Alias.
> > >
> > > Can't say that I'm sorry Ch4 didn't pick up the second season, after
> > > all they have no respect for the show or it's fans.
> > >
> > > >If I were in charge of acquisitions for Five, I know what I'd be
doing
> > > >now...
> > >
> > > Nooooo, they would stick it in an 8pm slot ala Dark Angel.
> >
> > So? IIRC, that was the time SO showed it.
> >
> Five used to start it usually between 7-8pm. Sky showed it at 9pm as
> Star Trek Something always occupied the 8pm slot (or Andromeda)

Actually, I was talking about Alias, not DA. Alias was shown at 8pm for S1.

Cal

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Apr 12, 2003, 6:24:25 AM4/12/03
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"CindyLover" <Cindylo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> According to C21, "The net decided not to pick up the terrestrial
> rights to the second season of Alias." This was at the end of an
> article about C4's latest deals with Warner Bros. Here's the full
> piece for any interested parties:
>
> UK broadcaster Channel 4 has inked a deal with Warner Bros.
> International Television Distribution to secure continued rights to a
> package of US shows including Friends, ER and The West Wing.
>

The West Wing!!!! After the treatment it has received from C4 - I thought
they had given up on it. Did they get it as part of a job lot or something?

>
SNIP


Bit Cloud

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Apr 12, 2003, 7:22:46 AM4/12/03
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On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:44:43 GMT, "Carl Waring"
<cwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

<Snip>

>> > So? IIRC, that was the time SO showed it.
>> >
>> Five used to start it usually between 7-8pm. Sky showed it at 9pm as
>> Star Trek Something always occupied the 8pm slot (or Andromeda)
>
>Actually, I was talking about Alias, not DA. Alias was shown at 8pm for S1.

9pm wednesdays IIRC.

CindyLover

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Apr 12, 2003, 1:39:32 PM4/12/03
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> > UK broadcaster Channel 4 has inked a deal with Warner Bros.
> > International Television Distribution to secure continued rights to a
> > package of US shows including Friends, ER and The West Wing.
"Cal":

> The West Wing!!!! After the treatment it has received from C4 - I thought
> they had given up on it. Did they get it as part of a job lot or something?

Perhaps; that would certainly explain "The Opposite Sex" and "Mortal
Kombat: Conquest." Among others...

CindyLover

CindyLover

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Apr 12, 2003, 1:42:12 PM4/12/03
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> > > > >If I were in charge of acquisitions for Five, I know what I'd be
> doing
> > > > >now...
> > > > Nooooo, they would stick it in an 8pm slot ala Dark Angel.
> > > So? IIRC, that was the time SO showed it.
> > Five used to start it usually between 7-8pm. Sky showed it at 9pm as
> > Star Trek Something always occupied the 8pm slot (or Andromeda)
>
> Actually, I was talking about Alias, not DA. Alias was shown at 8pm for S1.

No, the other guy was right - it was 9pm Wednesdays for S1. Sky showed
the first couple of episodes of S2 on Tuesdays at 8, then realised it
was a mistake and moved it to Mondays at 9.

CindyLover

Baggers

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Apr 12, 2003, 4:07:02 PM4/12/03
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"CindyLover" <Cindylo...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Perhaps; that would certainly explain "The Opposite Sex" and "Mortal
> Kombat: Conquest." Among others...

Is "The Opposite Sex" any good? Pilot is on tonight (aka 4am Sunday morning)
and the tv guide makes it sound like a "Saved By The Bell" for a slightly
older audience.

Baggers


Dom Robinson

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Apr 12, 2003, 4:36:00 PM4/12/03
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In article <b79rm3$ccbnh$1...@ID-154605.news.dfncis.de>, bag...@dobbers.f9.co.uk
says...
C4 showed them almost nightly over Xmas, but are now repeating them weekly.
After a couple of weeks, Sky One are showing them all nightly so they'll
overtake C4.

I didn't watch it though.

ZC TGS

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On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:03:40 GMT, Bit Cloud <bitc...@blitzteam.spam>
wrote:


>Was hoping to get it on DVD, but I'm a little overstretched because of
>DS9/Buffy/Angel this year.


Tell me about it, along with the above I am also getting the X Files
sets as well but other regular film DVDs as well.

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