Random Thoughts on "The Gift" (Buffy 5x22)
Andrew Poulter
OK - where do I start?
Despite all my efforts to stay spoiler free, I did kinda know what was going
to happen; well, I pretty much knew that Buffy was going to die, anyway. I
must say that I had no idea how; and I certainly wasn't expecting quite that
ending. More of which later.
Before I go any further - may I urge you to follow the link
(http://www.tvguide.com/newsgossip/insider/010524a.asp) posted by Greg, and
read Joss's interview with TV Guide (US), on the state of things post 5x22.
As we've seen all the episodes that have been made (well we had when I
originally posted this), it (by definition) can't contain any spoilers; and
it doesn't - just lots of cryptic JW "non-answers". I read it last night,
and I'm glad I did. It's reassuring, in that it confirms that Joss does
indeed know what he's doing - as if there was a doubt! :-)
On to the actual episode now...
First the "previously" sequence. Wow! Was that great, or was that great! I
really wasn't expecting that. Very classy - reminding us (albeit very
briefly) of how much Buffy has done, and all that's happened up to now. Fox
better not cut *that* out of the DVD release! :-)
The return of "Slay of the week" was clever. It was simultaneously funny,
homage to simpler times, and also, yet another reminder of how far our
eponymous hero has come.
The explanation scene with everyone in the magic shop - was a neat way to
provide the recap that was missing - due to the lack of a "regular"
"previously" section. Quick and to the point, it provided us with
everything we needed to know. Plus it allowed for a great speech for
Spike. "Blood, as the essence of life". Great. James really does seem to
get all the best lines!
Giles's outburst was slightly unexpected. We've become so used to him as
the quiet, cerebral one - that it's easy to forget his ruthless streak. As
we see later, he's not one to step away from that which has to be done - its
his obligation to protect the world. Buffy's use of the phrase "...bloody
well talking about it..." has a very strange sound to it. Yes, she's using
it to mock Giles, but its something that just doesn't sound right, when
spoken by an American.
Anya's over enthusiasm was fun too; as were the comments from Spike & Giles,
in response to it.
Xander & Willow's exchange - very nearly takes the prize for best line of
the week. I liked it so much, I'm going to pointlessly quote it! :-)
X: "Smart chicks are so hot".
W: "You couldn't have figured that out in tenth-grade?".
Great stuff!
The series of short "resolution" scenes, was clever. Some nice closure on
the season. In fact, throughout the episode, just about every theme raised
in the season is addressed. Even the (IMHO) rather poor "Triangle" (5x11)
is given further reason to be, with Buffy's use of Olaf's hammer. Although
which came first, only Joss (and maybe Marti) knows.
The Giles-Buffy resolution was (IMHO) the best one. Giles speech about his
duty was great, and nice set-up for later on. The apocalypse count was a
nice touch too. "...feels like a hundred" - clever.
Of the six - four are pretty easy to remember- the four season finales
(beating The Master, Acathla, The Mayor & Adam), but the other two are
harder. I'm guessing that they're beating The Judge ("Innocence" - 2x14)
and preventing the reopening of the hellmouth in "Doomed" (4x11); but I'd
like to know what other people think.
The score for this episode was BRILLIANT. It was great to have the superbly
talented Christopher Beck back - even if it was just for one show. The way
the main theme of "Close Your Eyes" was subtlety introduced, as Buffy
remembers killing Angel, was great. It's such a pity that the CD of his
work on BtVS never got published. It would have been an essential purchase
for me (and I guess many other fans too). You can really tell the
difference, his work is an order of magnitude better than that which we've
seen in the rest of the season.
It was nice to see what the minions were building last week - a huge tower.
Now this was a slightly contrived plot device, but it worked well
nonetheless.
Anya & Xander were fun - and also (slightly) reminiscent of Willow & Oz in
GD1. Plus it was a nice take on the "proposal before the big battle" theme,
of countless other shows / movies.
The Buffy & Willow scene was also nice; or at least necessary, but not quite
as good as the others.
The Buffy & Spike scene, was great. James got a whole cart-load of great
lines, again. My particular favourite - being:
"I'm a monster: but you treat me like a man".
Once again - great stuff.
The best line of the day though, has to be Spike's take on Henry V. In case
your Shakespeare is rusty - it's (as Spike says) the St. Crispian's day
speech, which the King gives, just before the battle of Agincourt.
Giles sets it up with:
G: "We few. We happy few..."
With Spike (almost) completing the quote:
S: "...we band of buggered..."
<LOL>
Branagh & Olivier will never be the same again! :-)
Brilliant! Quite brilliant!
Anyway - on now to the battle; which at around 20 minutes actual running
time - has to be the longest ever. Neither "GD2" (3x22) or "Primeval"
(4x21) were this long - I'm sure (though I haven't actually timed them).
It was nice to see Tara getting restored.
I loved what must surely be the best superlative that the minions have used
to describe Glory:
"...most sweaty, naughty feelings causing one".
The balance of humour & drama in this episode was great. It could have been
really depressing without the jokes - acting as counterpoint to the drama.
The "day of Glory" pun was great too.
I could be reading too much into it - but I thought the symbolism of Glory
being dressed in Black & Buffy (the real Buffy) in white - was interesting -
if slightly clichéd.
Doc's appearance on the gantry was a nice twist - even if it had been
slightly telegraphed - by seeing Joel's name in the credits.
Willow clearing the stairs was a nice touch - as was her telepathy with
Spike.
Giles's speech to Ben - was a clever examination of the characteristics of
the hero - of the Champion. Giles has real darkness within him. As we saw
in his scene with Buffy - it's his duty to do what others can't & also to
protect the slayer. Something he does here - by taking from her, the task
of killing an innocent. It's a powerful & very deep scene.
And finally - the ending.
What can I say? Really powerful stuff. Some great "micro" acting by
everyone - at the end there - especially James & Tony.
And the epitaph? - What more fitting one could there be?
"She saved the world a lot"
Finally - may I once again urge you to read Joss's comments - they really
are uplifting, after such a sad ending.
***************
At this point, let me move you to mid-October 2001 (and long before I saw
any of S6 BTW - so there's nothing spoilery. It's all speculation); when,
in a discussion about how Buffy's death could close the portal, I wrote
this:
***************
The point that is being made here, I think, in retrospect, is that Buffy and
Dawn share the same soul. Hence: "...they made her out of me...".
Having just yesterday completed my retrospective of the second half of S5
(courtesy of VHS Box 2), and having been thinking about "The Gift" (5x22); I
think there is a fairly large clue here - a clue which possibly will explain
how Buffy will be resurrected at the start of S6.
That Buffy and Dawn share the same soul would not only make sense as an
explanation of how Dawn exists; but also a real tangible explanation of the
way the "dimensional rift" was sealed. Because Buffy and Dawn were "the
same" - Buffy ending her life - had logical equivalence with Dawn ending
hers. I admit this isn't made totally clear in "The Gift"; but reading
between the lines, I'm pretty sure that this is the point that Joss is
trying to make.
Follow my logic, if you will. The whole "...its always blood..." aspect -
merely sets up how the "rift" is opened; that they share a soul would
explains how the rift is closed. If "...blood is life..." and the energy of
the key will force the barriers down until "...the blood ceases to flow...";
then (following the logic) the key's energy is active, until life is
terminated. If both Buffy and Dawn have a common soul, then their deaths
are, from the viewpoint of prepositional logic, and in the context of the
energy, mutually equivalent.
AJP
thumis
>
> "The Gift"
>
> And the epitaph? - What more fitting one could there be?
>
> "She saved the world a lot"
>
in two. I think it sounds better if you inset the implied full stop:
She saved the world. A lot.
Mike
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Ahhhh I'd never thought of it like that. It sounds a lot better split in
two
Mike
Andrew Poulter
Oh yes. Very much so.
AJP
Dave Emberton
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> "The Gift"
>
> OK - where do I start?
>
> Despite all my efforts to stay spoiler free, I did kinda know what was
going
> to happen; well, I pretty much knew that Buffy was going to die, anyway.
I
> must say that I had no idea how; and I certainly wasn't expecting quite
that
> ending. More of which later.
It didn't help that when Sky One showed this last year, then spent the
entire previous week showing a trailer that spoiled the ending.
> First the "previously" sequence. Wow! Was that great, or was that great!
I
> really wasn't expecting that. Very classy - reminding us (albeit very
> briefly) of how much Buffy has done, and all that's happened up to now.
Fox
> better not cut *that* out of the DVD release! :-)
I hate those with a passion - but that one was fantastic!
> The return of "Slay of the week" was clever. It was simultaneously funny,
> homage to simpler times, and also, yet another reminder of how far our
> eponymous hero has come.
Yes - just a common old garden vampire.
> The series of short "resolution" scenes, was clever. Some nice closure on
> the season. In fact, throughout the episode, just about every theme
raised
> in the season is addressed. Even the (IMHO) rather poor "Triangle" (5x11)
> is given further reason to be, with Buffy's use of Olaf's hammer.
Although
> which came first, only Joss (and maybe Marti) knows.
He wasn't really a troll god was he though - rather just a troll.
> The Giles-Buffy resolution was (IMHO) the best one. Giles speech about
his
> duty was great, and nice set-up for later on. The apocalypse count was a
> nice touch too. "...feels like a hundred" - clever.
>
> Of the six - four are pretty easy to remember- the four season finales
> (beating The Master, Acathla, The Mayor & Adam), but the other two are
> harder. I'm guessing that they're beating The Judge ("Innocence" - 2x14)
> and preventing the reopening of the hellmouth in "Doomed" (4x11); but I'd
> like to know what other people think.
I suppose it depends on exactly what you call an apocalypse, but the one
you're forgetting is the one we don't really see in "The Zeppo".
> The score for this episode was BRILLIANT. It was great to have the
superbly
> talented Christopher Beck back - even if it was just for one show. The
way
> the main theme of "Close Your Eyes" was subtlety introduced, as Buffy
> remembers killing Angel, was great. It's such a pity that the CD of his
> work on BtVS never got published. It would have been an essential
purchase
> for me (and I guess many other fans too). You can really tell the
> difference, his work is an order of magnitude better than that which we've
> seen in the rest of the season.
Couldn't agree more. Something that probably gets overlooked far too much is
how great the score can be in BTVS - not least in Hush.
> The Buffy & Spike scene, was great.
Especially where Buffy makes a point of inviting him in, showing that he's
redeemed himself in her eyes. Is there a tear in his eye as he comes in?
> I loved what must surely be the best superlative that the minions have
used
> to describe Glory:
>
> "...most sweaty, naughty feelings causing one".
LOL. I had a feeling they were saving that one until the end.
> The "day of Glory" pun was great too.
But what does the minion say after this, as I've never been able to catch
it.
> I could be reading too much into it - but I thought the symbolism of Glory
> being dressed in Black & Buffy (the real Buffy) in white - was
interesting -
> if slightly clichéd.
I think you're reading too much into that ;-)
> Willow clearing the stairs was a nice touch - as was her telepathy with
> Spike.
Next to Spike was some kind of speaker - looking thing, and it appeared that
Willow's voice was somehow coming out of there. I'm sure that was
unintentional, but it did seem slightly strange.
> And finally - the ending.
>
> What can I say? Really powerful stuff. Some great "micro" acting by
> everyone - at the end there - especially James & Tony.
I love the way you hear what Buffy had said to Dawn whilst Buffy is
dying/dead. That's a really nice touch that turned something which might
have been slightly too sentimental, into something very powerful.
> And the epitaph? - What more fitting one could there be?
>
> "She saved the world a lot"
Or "She saved the world. A lot"
Only in Buffy could they kill off the title character and still manage to
put a joke on her tombstone. ;-)
I've already said it once today in another thread, but I'll say it again
anyway. This should have been the end. However they bring Buffy to an end
now is going to seem lame by comparison, and judging by the way S6 seems to
be going, BTVS is never going to be better than it was at the end of S5.
Dave
Andrew Poulter
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> > "The Gift"
> >
> > OK - where do I start?
> >
> > Despite all my efforts to stay spoiler free, I did kinda know what was
> going
> > to happen; well, I pretty much knew that Buffy was going to die, anyway.
> I
> > must say that I had no idea how; and I certainly wasn't expecting quite
> that
> > ending. More of which later.
>
> It didn't help that when Sky One showed this last year, then spent the
> entire previous week showing a trailer that spoiled the ending.
No. It really didn't. I got away with it, by not watching any Sky One for
a week before hand; and not reading here (UMTB) either.
> > The series of short "resolution" scenes, was clever. Some nice closure
on
> > the season. In fact, throughout the episode, just about every theme
> raised
> > in the season is addressed. Even the (IMHO) rather poor "Triangle"
(5x11)
> > is given further reason to be, with Buffy's use of Olaf's hammer.
> Although
> > which came first, only Joss (and maybe Marti) knows.
>
> He wasn't really a troll god was he though - rather just a troll.
Oh please, don't start that again...
> > The Giles-Buffy resolution was (IMHO) the best one. Giles speech about
> his
> > duty was great, and nice set-up for later on. The apocalypse count was
a
> > nice touch too. "...feels like a hundred" - clever.
> >
> > Of the six - four are pretty easy to remember- the four season finales
> > (beating The Master, Acathla, The Mayor & Adam), but the other two are
> > harder. I'm guessing that they're beating The Judge ("Innocence" -
2x14)
> > and preventing the reopening of the hellmouth in "Doomed" (4x11); but
I'd
> > like to know what other people think.
>
> I suppose it depends on exactly what you call an apocalypse, but the one
> you're forgetting is the one we don't really see in "The Zeppo".
Yes I did forget that one. Twice, because I forgot to add it to the
thoughts when I reposted them.
> > The score for this episode was BRILLIANT. It was great to have the
> superbly
> > talented Christopher Beck back - even if it was just for one show. The
> way
> > the main theme of "Close Your Eyes" was subtlety introduced, as Buffy
> > remembers killing Angel, was great. It's such a pity that the CD of his
> > work on BtVS never got published. It would have been an essential
> purchase
> > for me (and I guess many other fans too). You can really tell the
> > difference, his work is an order of magnitude better than that which
we've
> > seen in the rest of the season.
>
> Couldn't agree more. Something that probably gets overlooked far too much
is
> how great the score can be in BTVS - not least in Hush.
Yup.
> > I loved what must surely be the best superlative that the minions have
> used
> > to describe Glory:
> >
> > "...most sweaty, naughty feelings causing one".
> LOL. I had a feeling they were saving that one until the end.
:-)
> > The "day of Glory" pun was great too.
> But what does the minion say after this, as I've never been able to catch
> it.
"Well punned" - I think.
> > I could be reading too much into it - but I thought the symbolism of
Glory
> > being dressed in Black & Buffy (the real Buffy) in white - was
> interesting -
> > if slightly clichid.
> I think you're reading too much into that ;-)
No, I'm pretty certain that was deliberate. Why else would Buffy be in near
total white, rather than a more normal dark colour?
> > Willow clearing the stairs was a nice touch - as was her telepathy with
> > Spike.
>
> Next to Spike was some kind of speaker - looking thing, and it appeared
that
> Willow's voice was somehow coming out of there. I'm sure that was
> unintentional, but it did seem slightly strange.
Didn't notice that.
> > And finally - the ending.
> >
> > What can I say? Really powerful stuff. Some great "micro" acting by
> > everyone - at the end there - especially James & Tony.
>
> I love the way you hear what Buffy had said to Dawn whilst Buffy is
> dying/dead. That's a really nice touch that turned something which might
> have been slightly too sentimental, into something very powerful.
Yes.
> > And the epitaph? - What more fitting one could there be?
> >
> > "She saved the world a lot"
> Or "She saved the world. A lot"
Yes. The implied full stop makes it better.
> Only in Buffy could they kill off the title character and still manage to
> put a joke on her tombstone. ;-)
Yes. Only Joss could do that.
> I've already said it once today in another thread, but I'll say it again
> anyway. This should have been the end. However they bring Buffy to an end
> now is going to seem lame by comparison, and judging by the way S6 seems
to
> be going, BTVS is never going to be better than it was at the end of S5.
Oooh. Hmm. I agree that this would have made a good ending for the show.
I don't think it's fair say BtVS "is never going to be better", as I'm
pretty sure we all thought the same after S2 - and S5 was at least as good,
and IMHO much better.
AJP
Dave Emberton
>
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> > anyway. This should have been the end. However they bring Buffy to an
end
> > now is going to seem lame by comparison, and judging by the way S6 seems
> to
> > be going, BTVS is never going to be better than it was at the end of S5.
>
> Oooh. Hmm. I agree that this would have made a good ending for the show.
> I don't think it's fair say BtVS "is never going to be better", as I'm
> pretty sure we all thought the same after S2 - and S5 was at least as
good,
> and IMHO much better.
It's hard to compare series in a meaningul way, but I think it's fair to say
that S5 had the best ongoing story (or arc as some would say), and the whole
idea of suddenly giving the Slayer a younger sister that everyone remembers
is just amazingly clever. However, the one off episodes just haven't been as
good, so it's swings and roundabouts really.
As for ending the series there - well it's tough. I love this programme and
I want it to be great, and it's no secret that S6 has been less than great.
So what would you rather have, mediocre programmes that are called BTVS and
have all the cast and characters of BTVS and yet just don't have the quality
we've come to associate with BTVS, or only 5 series of BTVS, all of which
are superb (apart from the odd glitch), and ended on 4 of the best ever
episodes.
Maybe I'm wrong and it will get better, but history would suggest that TV
shows that seem fresh and original at first, usually go on too long and end
up getting cancelled once the inevitable drop in quality and viewing figures
kicks in.
Of course stopping at the end of S5 would have deprived the world of OMWF,
but then this is such an atypical episode that it can't really be compared
with the rest of BTVS.
Dave
Niall Harrison
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>> He wasn't really a troll god was he though - rather just a troll.
>
> Oh please, don't start that again...
Too late... :-)
>> > The score for this episode was BRILLIANT. It was great to have the
>> > superbly
>> > talented Christopher Beck back - even if it was just for one show. The
>> > way
>> > the main theme of "Close Your Eyes" was subtlety introduced, as Buffy
>> > remembers killing Angel, was great. It's such a pity that the CD of his
>> > work on BtVS never got published. It would have been an essential
>> > purchase
>> > for me (and I guess many other fans too). You can really tell the
>> > difference, his work is an order of magnitude better than that which
>> > we've
>> > seen in the rest of the season.
>>
>> Couldn't agree more. Something that probably gets overlooked far too much
>> is how great the score can be in BTVS - not least in Hush.
>
> Yup.
It is so noticeable when Chris Beck does an episode, though. TW seems to
operate from a selection of stock pieces of music, rather than scoring to
what's actually happening. :-/
Rob Kral, though...now, he's up there with Beck, IMO.
>> > The "day of Glory" pun was great too.
>> But what does the minion say after this, as I've never been able to catch
>> it.
>
> "Well punned" - I think.
That's what I heard.
>> > I could be reading too much into it - but I thought the symbolism of
>> > Glory
>> > being dressed in Black & Buffy (the real Buffy) in white - was
>> > interesting - if slightly clichid.
>>
>> I think you're reading too much into that ;-)
>
> No, I'm pretty certain that was deliberate. Why else would Buffy be in near
> total white, rather than a more normal dark colour?
I agree. Plus, this is JW. It's hard to read too much into his episodes,
as a general rule.
>> I've already said it once today in another thread, but I'll say it again
>> anyway. This should have been the end. However they bring Buffy to an end
>> now is going to seem lame by comparison, and judging by the way S6 seems
>> to be going, BTVS is never going to be better than it was at the end of S5.
>
> Oooh. Hmm. I agree that this would have made a good ending for the show.
> I don't think it's fair say BtVS "is never going to be better", as I'm
> pretty sure we all thought the same after S2 - and S5 was at least as good,
> and IMHO much better.
I have a feeling S6 is a necessary evil to line all the pieces up for S7,
which is supposed to be the final season. At least, that's what I'm
hoping.
Niall
--
How did you think this would end?
Iain Clark
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>> > I've already said it once today in another thread, but I'll say it again
>> > anyway. This should have been the end. However they bring Buffy to an end
>> > now is going to seem lame by comparison, and judging by the way S6 seems to
>> > be going, BTVS is never going to be better than it was at the end of S5.
<snip>
>So what would you rather have, mediocre programmes that are called BTVS and
>have all the cast and characters of BTVS and yet just don't have the quality
>we've come to associate with BTVS, or only 5 series of BTVS, all of which
>are superb (apart from the odd glitch), and ended on 4 of the best ever
>episodes.
>
Year after year people keep saying that Buffy has passed its
peak, but since one season is seldom a good predictor for the
quality of the next, what's the point in jumping to these
doom-laden conclusions?
>Maybe I'm wrong and it will get better, but history would suggest that TV
>shows that seem fresh and original at first, usually go on too long and end
>up getting cancelled once the inevitable drop in quality and viewing figures
>kicks in.
>
>Of course stopping at the end of S5 would have deprived the world of OMWF,
>but then this is such an atypical episode that it can't really be compared
>with the rest of BTVS.
>
I disagree that it can't be compared to the rest of Buffy. It
was different, but not *that* different. And it was intrinsic to
the arc of the season, just as Hush or The Body were. Restless
is much more atypical.
Iain
--
"Could you learn to read minds?
In the case of mine do you read in the dark?"
Stephen Walker
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> >
>
> anyway. This should have been the end. However they bring Buffy to an end
> now is going to seem lame by comparison, and judging by the way S6 seems
to
> be going, BTVS is never going to be better than it was at the end of S5.
>
In some old Joss interviews I have, he says he wants to end after five
years, he doesn't want it to be a show that doesn't know when to stop. Later
he admits that commercial considerations have prevented that, plus he keeps
coming up with new story ideas.
I'll see if I can dig them out.
I wonder if The Gift might have been slightly different if the show was not
returning for two more years?
Stephen
Stephen Walker
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> > > "The Gift"
> > >
>
> > But what does the minion say after this, as I've never been able to
catch
> > it.
>
> "Well punned" - I think.
"It just called out to me" is the reply to that.
>
> > > I could be reading too much into it - but I thought the symbolism of
> Glory
> > > being dressed in Black & Buffy (the real Buffy) in white - was
> > interesting -
> > > if slightly clichid.
> > I think you're reading too much into that ;-)
>
> No, I'm pretty certain that was deliberate. Why else would Buffy be in
near
> total white, rather than a more normal dark colour?
The crucial thing is the change in Buffy's attire. Buffy has been pondering
since Intervention whether being the slayer hardens her, makes her incapable
of love. As Glory makes her situation more desperate, she attires herself
more like a warrior, lots of dark leather, her hair tied back tight. For the
final showdown it is loose hair, light colours, soft fabrics. She rejects
the warrior side but fights out of love instead, as a woman and sister.
Stephen
drsmith
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> > > > "The Gift
> Glory
> > > > being dressed in Black & Buffy (the real Buffy) in white - was
> interesting -
> > > > if slightly clichid.
> > > I think you're reading too much into that ;-)
> >
> > No, I'm pretty certain that was deliberate. Why else would Buffy be in
> near
> > total white, rather than a more normal dark colour?
>
Slayer) on the ATPoBtVS Fictionary website buffys gray and white
clothes are symbols of death and rebirth.