Soon I'll be one of... THEM!
Sea Wasp
my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
(bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
http://www.wizvax.net/seawasp/index.htm
Gareth Wilson
> ... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
Cool. Can you give us any more information, like the title, setting, your
real name, etc?
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Rick
news:3D4C42...@wizvax.net...
> ... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
Congratulations man...couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Margaret Young
>... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!
details please
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Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y
>... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
All right! I guess I'm a-buying a copy.
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Andrew Plotkin
> ... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
I look forward to the cover art with unadulterated... something. :)
Title? Er, author's name? ("C. Waspawiz"?)
--Z
"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
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Aaron M. Renn
>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Congrats!
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Mike Schilling
> my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>
When the time comes, I'll want your snail-mail address, so I can send you a
copy to autograph.
John Pelan
Congrats! Any mention of release date?
Cheers,
John
Dorothy J Heydt
>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Kewl! What's the title?
Dorothy J. Heydt
Albany, California
djh...@kithrup.com
http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt
David Dyer-Bennet
> ... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Hey, that's *great* news! Congratulations!
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Sea Wasp
>
> On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 20:55:07 GMT, Sea Wasp <sea...@wizvax.net> wrote:
>
> >... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> >my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
> >
> > (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>
> hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> details please
(to respond to all at once...)
My real name, for those who didn't know it, is Ryk E. Spoor (the "E" is
important, as it separates me from my dad, whose middle initial is "P".)
This is the name under which I'll be published (I see no reason to
change it -- it's about as memorable a name as I'm likely to find, aside
from "Sea Wasp" which would be TOO wierd to put on the book itself).
The book's *working* title -- and it doesn't really work -- is "The
Morgantown Chronicles".
Publication date isn't set -- they still have to look it over,decide if
it needs any more rewrites, and so on. My *guess* from what I've been
told is that it'd be about a year or so from now -- say Fall 2003.
It's a horror/private investigator/sf/wierd crap combination (which
would have been relevant to about three discussions here in the past
several months). Once more details get settled, I'll post 'em.
David Dyer-Bennet
> Here, Sea Wasp <sea...@wizvax.net> wrote:
> > ... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> > my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> > (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>
> I look forward to the cover art with unadulterated... something. :)
>
> Title? Er, author's name? ("C. Waspawiz"?)
Um, that's a good point actually, which I hadn't considered (I'll
claim it's because actually finding it isn't yet an issue).
Del Cotter
Sea Wasp <sea...@wizvax.net> said:
>... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Congratululations!
--
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Guests of Honour: University of Gloucestershire
Ben Jeapes www.jeapes.ndirect.co.uk Cheltenham 9-11 Aug 2002
Keith Brooke www.infinityplus.co.uk/kbrooke/ www.unicon.org.uk
With Harmuni 2 - Filking in ConteXXt www.chocky.demon.co.uk/harmuni2/
Margaret Young
Thanks -- I will put the info in my "2 read" file - and keep us up to
date.
Ray Drouillard
Jeff Stehman
>
> My real name, for those who didn't know it, is Ryk E. Spoor (the "E" is
> important, as it separates me from my dad, whose middle initial is "P".)
Don't worry, you'll always be Sea Wasp to us. :)
> It's a horror/private investigator/sf/wierd crap combination
Not exactly my cup of tea, but congratulations none the less.
--Jeff Stehman
Keith Morrison
> ... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Congratulations! Can't wait to read it so I can argue about some
obscure point!
--
Keith
dave
> ... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Congrats!
The bad news - another author to look for.
dave
David Salmansohn
>... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Congratulations!!
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Martin Wisse
>... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Excellent.
Congratulations, you you vile pro, you.
Now, do you want the exploding spaceship cover or the anatomically
incorrect blonde with decollete cover?
Martin Wisse
--
No matter how bad life gets, at least smurfs aren't real.
-Glenn Moore
Sea Wasp
I'll have to see if being A Real Author will make me realize that I'm
superior to those who argue with me so I flame them into submission.
Oh, wait. I do that already.
Sea Wasp
>
> On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 20:55:07 GMT, Sea Wasp <sea...@wizvax.net> wrote:
>
> >... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> >my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
> >
> > (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>
> Excellent.
>
> Congratulations, you you vile pro, you.
>
> Now, do you want the exploding spaceship cover or the anatomically
> incorrect blonde with decollete cover?
Should be black hair, not blonde. No spaceships. Monsters, guns, car
chases, computers... how about a raven-haired decollete anatomically
unlikely babe driving a car while being pursued by a monster and
shooting it with a large caliber gun, with a laptop next to her?
(note: the main character is male)
Andrew Wheeler
>
> On Sat, 03 Aug 2002 20:55:07 GMT, Sea Wasp <sea...@wizvax.net> wrote:
>
> >... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts
> >for my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
> >
> > (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>
> Excellent.
>
> Congratulations, you you vile pro, you.
>
> Now, do you want the exploding spaceship cover or the anatomically
> incorrect blonde with decollete cover?
More importantly, are there any giant girl-eating blue cabbages in your book?
And congratulations, by the way!
--
Andrew Wheeler
--
"The world is quiet here."
-V.F.D.
Serg
Congrats!
Will it be in the Baen free library ?
Mark Reichert
> important, as it separates me from my dad, whose middle initial is "P".)
Must make pronouncing the 'Pa' of P important. :)
Anyways, congrats, congrats!
> This is the name under which I'll be published (I see no reason to
> change it -- it's about as memorable a name as I'm likely to find,
Well, Isaac Asimov liked to think keeping his real name worked to his
advantage.
> The book's *working* title -- and it doesn't really work -- is "The
> Morgantown Chronicles".
<shrug> Lois (can I use her first name just because I've posted to
her<g>) wasn't entirely happy with "Diplomatic Immunity" but if I
known how important a bioengineered plague would be to the story, I'd
have thought the double meaning of immunity to make it at least a
*good* title.
> Publication date isn't set -- they still have to look it over,decide if
> it needs any more rewrites, and so on. My *guess* from what I've been
> told is that it'd be about a year or so from now -- say Fall 2003.
So how long did it take you to write and did you getting any help from
a writing group? One author I know said the only sure way of writing
a book is to sit down and write at least a few pages a day, thus
accumulating a book's worth over a year. Once it is out of your head
and onto paper, you can get help from others to pound it into shape.
> It's a horror/private investigator/sf/wierd crap combination (which
> would have been relevant to about three discussions here in the past
Well, be careful about introducing any romance. We've seen where
romance mixed with horror/fantasy/private investigator/wierd crap can
lead and I'm not talking about Cook's Garrett series <g>. I do have
to say that author of said series is the one who gave me the 'few
pages a day' advice.
> several months). Once more details get settled, I'll post 'em.
I'll be eagerly awaiting them.
Ray Drouillard
In that case, have the male driving, with the above-mentioned
raven-haired decollete sitting in his lap and shooting at the monster
with a large caliber gun.
Ray
Sean O'Hara
>
> My real name, for those who didn't know it, is Ryk E. Spoor (the "E" is
> important, as it separates me from my dad, whose middle initial is "P".)
>
With a name like that, success would've been guaranteed.
> The book's *working* title -- and it doesn't really work -- is "The
> Morgantown Chronicles".
>
> Publication date isn't set -- they still have to look it over,decide if
> it needs any more rewrites, and so on. My *guess* from what I've been
> told is that it'd be about a year or so from now -- say Fall 2003.
>
Look forward to reading it.
--
Sean O辿ara
"If you're President, the only time when you're alone is when you're
taking a leak." -Colin Powell
Sea Wasp
>
> "Sea Wasp" <sea...@wizvax.net> wrote in message
> news:3D4D57...@wizvax.net..
I was going for maximum inaccuracy.
Sea Wasp
That will be Baen's call, I'd presume; they decide what gets put there
and when.
Sea Wasp
> So how long did it take you to write and did you getting any help from
> a writing group?
The first half was written, off and on, over a period of 10 years.
The second half was written in 2 months.
Part of the first half was read to a writer's group, but the real thing
that helped me was writing fanfic with my girlfriend-later fiancee-later
wife Kathleen; she taught me a great deal about writing characters and
so on.
> > It's a horror/private investigator/sf/wierd crap combination (which
> > would have been relevant to about three discussions here in the past
>
> Well, be careful about introducing any romance.
Too late.
Brenda W. Clough
>Keith Morrison wrote:
>
>>Sea Wasp wrote:
>>
>>>... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
>>>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>>>
>>Congratulations! Can't wait to read it so I can argue about some
>>obscure point!
>>
>
> I'll have to see if being A Real Author will make me realize that I'm
>superior to those who argue with me so I flame them into submission.
>
> Oh, wait. I do that already.
>
Trot over to www.sfwa.org and join up -- you'll fit right in!
Brenda
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Sean O'Hara
>
> I'll have to see if being A Real Author will make me realize that I'm
> superior to those who argue with me so I flame them into submission.
>
aRJay
writes
>Serg wrote:
>>
>> Sea Wasp <sea...@wizvax.net> wrote in message
>>news:<3D4C63...@wizvax.net>...
>>
>> Congrats!
>>
>> Will it be in the Baen free library ?
>
> That will be Baen's call, I'd presume; they decide what gets put there
>and when.
>
that might well be your call, the version is theirs.
But check with Eric (or Baen) as my memory is not always reliable.
Oh yes congratulations.
--
aRJay
"In this great and creatorless universe, where so much beautiful has
come to be out of the chance interactions of the basic properties of
matter, it seems so important that we love one another."
- Lucy Kemnitzer
Jaquandor
>>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>>
>> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Congratulations. And I hate you.
--
-Jaquandor
http://byzantiumshores.blogspot.com
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music."
--George Carlin
Sea Wasp
>
> >>... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> >>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>
> Congratulations. And I hate you.
Brunner
> my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
I congratulated you on rec.arts.sf.written, but you can never have enough
good wishes.
So -- congratulations again!
I get goosebumps just thinking about it, it's so cool. :)
Meghan
***
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Renaissance Faire.
Find it at http://www.faire-folk.com
Klyfix
Hmm, then said unlikely babe should probably have obvious cyborg
enhancements, and maybe elf ears.
V. S. Greene : kly...@aol.com : Boston, near Arkham...
Eckzylon: http://m1.aol.com/klyfix/eckzylon.html
A rodent with mad skillz, uh, no.
Keith Morrison
>>>>>>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>Excellent.
>>>>>
>>>>>Congratulations, you you vile pro, you.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now, do you want the exploding spaceship cover or the anatomically
>>>>>incorrect blonde with decollete cover?
>>>>
>>>>Should be black hair, not blonde. No spaceships. Monsters, guns, car
>>>>chases, computers... how about a raven-haired decollete anatomically
>>>>unlikely babe driving a car while being pursued by a monster and
>>>>shooting it with a large caliber gun, with a laptop next to her?
>>>>
>>>>(note: the main character is male)
>>>
>>>In that case, have the male driving, with the above-mentioned
>>>raven-haired decollete sitting in his lap and shooting at the monster
>>>with a large caliber gun.
>>
>> I was going for maximum inaccuracy.
>
> Hmm, then said unlikely babe should probably have obvious cyborg
> enhancements, and maybe elf ears.
And the monster's spaceship should be in the process of exploding.
--
Keith
Mark Reichert
> The first half was written, off and on, over a period of 10 years.
Well, I've had a story going around in my head for that long.
> Part of the first half was read to a writer's group, but the real thing
> that helped me was writing fanfic with my girlfriend-later fiancee-later
> wife Kathleen; she taught me a great deal about writing characters and
> so on.
See, that's my biggest stumbling block: no wife, no fiance, no
girlfriend, few friends. Not likely that I'd write realistic
characters, I'd think.
> > Well, be careful about introducing any romance.
>
> Too late.
Oh, well. <g>
Doom & Gloom Dave
> ... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
>
>
Do good writers know they're good and/or do bad writers know they're bad? ;)
Randy Money
>
> ... Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>
Belated congrats, Ryk. I look forward to seeing it on the stands.
Randy M.
Htn963
> Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
>my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>
> (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
Good bye, Sea Wasp. I'll miss you.
And congratulations.
--
Ht
|Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore
never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
--John Donne, "Devotions Upon Emergent Occasions"|
Sea Wasp
>
> "Sea Wasp" <sea...@wizvax.net> wrote in message
> news:3D4C42...@wizvax.net..
> > my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
> >
> > (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
> >
> Excellent, now...tell us...now that you can speak authoritatively
> Do good writers know they're good and/or do bad writers know they're bad? ;)
Circumstances being as they are, to be responsive at this time I will
only state that, as I have said before, and therefore restating what I
have said previously, that I can offer no response at this time based on
orders given me to make no such statement.
Sea Wasp
>
> Sea Wasp wrote:
>
> > Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> >my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
> >
> > (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>
> Good bye, Sea Wasp. I'll miss you.
I'm going somewhere?
Mike Schilling
> > Excellent, now...tell us...now that you can speak authoritatively
> > Do good writers know they're good and/or do bad writers know they're
bad? ;)
>
> Circumstances being as they are, to be responsive at this time I will
> only state that, as I have said before, and therefore restating what I
> have said previously, that I can offer no response at this time based on
> orders given me to make no such statement.
Hell, I thought you were an SF writer, not a GWB speechwriter.
Htn963
>Htn963 wrote:
>>
>> Sea Wasp wrote:
>>
>> > Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
>> >my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
>> >
>> > (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
>>
>> Good bye, Sea Wasp. I'll miss you.
>
> I'm going somewhere?
Like you said, you'll soon be one of THEM. Everything has its price.
I'll at least pray for you and hope that your book get a half-way decent
looking cover.
Sea Wasp
>
> Sea Wasp wrote:
>
> >Htn963 wrote:
> >>
> >> Sea Wasp wrote:
> >>
> >> > Science-Fiction writers, that is! I just received the contracts for
> >> >my first book to be published by Baen!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> > (bounces around room, off walls, etc.)
> >>
> >> Good bye, Sea Wasp. I'll miss you.
> >
> > I'm going somewhere?
>
> Like you said, you'll soon be one of THEM.
But We'll still be here. Watching you.
> Everything has its price.
19.95! And that's not all!
David Silberstein
No, no. He's Bernard Wooley. How's life in the Civil Service?
Steve Taylor
> Erm. What did he *do*? I could Google, but I am curious what
> specific behaviors led to your real-world killfile.
Just a personality like battery acid. I remember him well as the first
spectacularly unpleasant person I encountered online. Mean as a junkyard
dog and with a special dispensation from God to always be right. Nothing
too unusual for the net in other words...
Steve
Steve Taylor
> Same here. I find I spend more time on the credit side of the fence
> when I killfile the most egregious wombats[1].
> [1] Waste Of Money Brains And Time
Hey - knock it off with the insults to wombats! They're too cute to pick
on.
See:
http://lunky.com/otherpics.php?t=critter&page=1&PHPSESSID=089131d490483873322b16dfee6b44b5
Actually, I saw another wombat acronym the other day - can't forget what
the words were, but it was by a bunch of people who went to demos
wearing very heavy padding so the truncheons wouldn't hurt so much...
Steve
Fred Galvin
> Hey - knock it off with the insults to wombats! They're too cute to pick
> on.
THE WOMBAT
The wombat lives across the seas
Among the far Antipodes.
It may exist on nuts and berries,
Or then again on missionaries.
Its distant habitat precludes
Conclusive knowledge of its moods,
But I would not engage a wombat
In any form of mortal combat.
---Ogden Nash
Craig Richardson
<cos...@nospam-2.quixnet.net> wrote:
>You know... I have always wondered why someone bothers to tell the
>"plonkee" that he has been plonked. It would feel to me like I was
>putting my hands over my ears and saying "naa naa boo boo I can't hear
>you".
>
>Maybe there is something to be said for letting him know that his
>ravings are now impotent, but I can't really see it. The one person
>(along with his duelists) that I have plonked wouldn't have changed
>their behavior based on the fact that I can't hear them, so I didn't
>bother myself with it.
Basically, it's a "last chance" sort of thing. For real committed
assholes, it won't mean a thing, but in case the plonkee is a
basically reasonable person who has temporarily lost control, a public
plonking might cause them to re-evaluate their position. I mean, I
can be an asshole sometimes, and do my share of off-topic postings
besides. I wouldn't be surprised if someone out there has said the
Eight Deadly Words about me. But if someone I didn't disrespect
actively put forth the effort to plonk me, I know I'd think about it.
--Craig
Craig Richardson
>In article <3D51D909...@erols.com>, "Brenda W. Clough" <clo...@erols.com>
>writes:
>>I won't dress like Brittany Spears, because she is not only talentless
>>but startlingly taste-free as well.
>
>My impression is that she doesn't chose her clothes (or much of anything
>else); for practical purposes she's a performing mannequin. Hmm.....
>suddenly have a vision of a writer who hides behind a hired actor
>in order to increase interest in his/her/its work and to preserve their
>own privacy. Of course that has been written, right? Lots of times,
>although I can't think of an SF example off hand.
There's a Keith Laumer short about a TV star persona - life of the
party, everyone loves him, yadda yadda - who is actually a mechanical
shell run by a midget. While the midget provides the basis for the
persona, no one likes him much, and he has to get back into the shell
to get anyone to notice him.
>> But I shall do my modest best. I
>>think I can safely promise that this Hugo evening gown will be
>>unforgettable.
>>
>That sounds intriquing...umm, 'cept that I'm not going to be anywhere
>near Worldcon this year. I assume photos will be around someplace,
>right?
GIF! GIF! GIF!
--Craig
Craig Richardson
wrote:
>In article <db01bae.02080...@posting.google.com>, Doug
><tr...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I had a taste of local, small-community fame when I was a kid.
>> "Disconcerting" is an apt description. People would approach me, call
>> me by name like they knew me (even though we'd only lived in that town
>> for a few months), and I'd wonder who the hell they were and how they
>> knew me. Very weird.
>
>The male-female ratio at software conferences being what it is, that
>happens to me once a year. It used to just be people who'd met me in
>previous years, now it's people who've only seen my posts on Usenet.
The male-female ratio at software conferences being what it is, I'd
imagine that being recognized is the least of your troubles...
--Craig
Klyfix
writes:
>
>In article <20020809193140...@mb-cj.aol.com>,
>Klyfix <kly...@aol.comedy> wrote:
>>In article <aiu3c4$bo9$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
>>jdni...@panix.com (James Nicoll) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>In article <3D5288AA...@ozemail.com.au>,
>>>Steve Taylor <sm...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
(snippity snip)
>
>>> But two X-Files episodes. The 7 of Nerd episode and the
>>>first person shooter one, both written with Gibson.
>>
>>I remember the latter, where both writers displayed impressive ignorance
>>of real first person shooter games, but what was the former episode?
>>
>
>Kill Switch - Season 5, Episode 11, aired 02.15.98
>
>Opening scene:
>
> Several heavily-armed crack dealers receive an anonymous
> telephone call alerting them to the whereabouts of a
> hated enemy. The men all converge on a diner, but none
> find their target. Two deputy marshals receive a similar
> anonymous tip, alerting them about a Colombian fugitive in
> the same diner. The marshals enter the diner and order
> everyone onto the floor. Drug dealers draw their weapons
> and a fierce gun battle ensues.
>
>Extracted from: http://www.x-files.com/episodes/season5/5x11.html
>
Oh, _that_ one. For all that there were absurdities in it, that one
I actually liked. Hmm, and for all that the other one was flawed,
that was another Lone Gunmen ep and I liked those guys, for all
that when they got their own series the showrunners or whoever
elected to do it as dumbly as possible.
kd...@removeshaw.ca
>suddenly have a vision of a writer who hides behind a hired actor
>in order to increase interest in his/her/its work and to preserve their
>own privacy. Of course that has been written, right? Lots of times,
>although I can't think of an SF example off hand.
strictly SF. It's the movie _Without a Clue_ with Ben Kingsley
and Micheal Caine, with Kingsley as Dr.Watson, who having made
up the character of Sherlock Holmes is then forced to hire Caine
to portray the detective.
>V. S. Greene : kly...@aol.com : Boston, near Arkham...
Kerry
Kerry D. Lee
kd...@shaw.ca
Great, so now it's battle of the cliche men. - Lina Inverse, Slayers 1
The concept of linear time was severely harmed by this post
Jeff Stehman
cha...@antipope.org says...
>
> Well yeah. But Terry needs the feedback. Just letting him continue
> ranting into a newsgroup without getting the message that nobody's
> listening doesn't do anything towards fixing the problem.
The threads that Terry puts any serious effort into tend to go on
for a *very* long time. If everyone just bowed out, the ranting
would end quickly. Unless he starts arguing with himself.
However, I like to see the plonking. It lets me get a better
feel for the thread.
If memory serves me right, on the rare occasion I have been
involved in one of those lengthy threads with Terry, he's been on
my side. What was the name of the warrior that Grendel refused
to kill? :)
--Jeff Stehman
Jeff Stehman
>
> I thought that once. Unfortunately, I then ran into
> piracy: ...
> 2. Practicing literary theft.
> in the 1828 Webster's (
Wow. Thanks for that post. This thread had me wishing for a OED
subscription earlier today.
--Jeff Stehman
Steve Coltrin
> You know... I have always wondered why someone bothers to tell the
> "plonkee" that he has been plonked.
It's the closest textual equivalent we have to a dead mugger hanging from
a lamp post.
--
Steve Coltrin spco...@omcl.org
Ash .NET durbatulūk, ash .NET gimbatul,
Ash .NET thrakatulūk agh Redmond-ishi krimpatul
Bill Snyder
<crichar...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>There's a Keith Laumer short about a TV star persona - life of the
>party, everyone loves him, yadda yadda - who is actually a mechanical
>shell run by a midget. While the midget provides the basis for the
>persona, no one likes him much, and he has to get back into the shell
>to get anyone to notice him.
I think that's "The Handler," by Damon Knight (RIP) rather than
Laumer.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank.]
Lee Ann Rucker
Richardson <crichar...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >The male-female ratio at software conferences being what it is, that
> >happens to me once a year. It used to just be people who'd met me in
> >previous years, now it's people who've only seen my posts on Usenet.
>
> The male-female ratio at software conferences being what it is, I'd
> imagine that being recognized is the least of your troubles...
No idea why, but no, they've always been well-behaved.
Sydney Webb
>
> "Charlie Stross" <cha...@antipope.org> wrote in message
> news:slrnal88i7....@raq981.uk2net.com.antipope.org...
<snip>
> > *PLONK*
> >
> > (Back in your box, little autism)
>
> You know... I have always wondered why someone bothers to tell the
> "plonkee" that he has been plonked.
Perhaps because on Usenet we have more than one reader. Something we
would do well to remember each time we post.
Whom one plonks says a great deal about a lady or gentleman.
- Syd
David Cowie
> Actually, I saw another wombat acronym the other day - can't forget what
> the words were, but it was by a bunch of people who went to demos
> wearing very heavy padding so the truncheons wouldn't hurt so much...
>
>
WOMBLES - White Overall Movement Bringing Liberation through Effective
Struggle. Seen at various various anti-capitalism protests in UK and
Europe.
The Wombles were originally characters in some children's books by
Elizabeth Beresford. They were furry beings who collected rubbish. UK
people of a certain age will remember the theme song from the TV show:
"Underground, overground, wombling free
The Wombles of Wimbledon Common are we
Making a use of the things that we find
Things that the everyday folks leave behind"
--
David Cowie david_cowie at lineone dot net
So high, so low, so many things to know.
David Silberstein
The creature that injures the most people each year is the common
wombat. It is nearly as ridiculous as its name, and spends its
life digging holes in the ground, in which it hides. During the
night it comes out to eat worms and grubs.
The wombat injures people in two ways: first, the animal is
indestructible. Digging holes in the hard Australian clay builds
muscles that outclass Olympic weightlifters. At night, they often
wander the roads. Semi-trailers (road trains) have hit them at high
speed, with all nine wheels on one side, and this merely makes them
very annoyed. They express this by snorting, glaring, and walking
away. Alas, to smaller cars, the wombat becomes an asymmetrical
high-speed launching pad, with results that can be imagined, but not
adequately described.
The second way the wombat injures people relates to its burrowing
behaviour. If a person happens to put their hand down a wombat hole,
the wombat will feel the disturbance and think 'Ho! My hole is
collapsing!' at which it will brace its muscled legs and push up
against the roof of its burrow with incredible force, to prevent its
collapse. Any unfortunate hand will be crushed, and attempts to
withdraw will cause the wombat to simply bear down harder. The
unfortunate will then bleed to death through their crushed hand as the
wombat prevents him from seeking assistance. This is considered the
third most embarrassing known way to die, and Australians don't talk
about it much.
-- Orinono on Australia, http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A53650
Craig Richardson
wrote:
>On Fri, 09 Aug 2002 21:12:31 -0700, Craig Richardson
><crichar...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>There's a Keith Laumer short about a TV star persona - life of the
>>party, everyone loves him, yadda yadda - who is actually a mechanical
>>shell run by a midget. While the midget provides the basis for the
>>persona, no one likes him much, and he has to get back into the shell
>>to get anyone to notice him.
>
>I think that's "The Handler," by Damon Knight (RIP) rather than
>Laumer.
Grumble. It would take me less than 15 seconds to check my sources.
You're right, of course. _100 Great Fantasy Short Short Stories_,
page 161. In my defense, it's one of the three non-Laumer short story
collections I have out of long-term storage.
--Craig
Craig Richardson
wrote:
>"Ray Drouillard" <cos...@nospam-2.quixnet.net> writes:
>
>> You know... I have always wondered why someone bothers to tell the
>> "plonkee" that he has been plonked.
>
>It's the closest textual equivalent we have to a dead mugger hanging from
>a lamp post.
ObSF: "A Song of Ice and Fire". Never seen so many bodies, severed
heads, etc. on display.
--Craig
Ray Drouillard
"Steve Coltrin" <spco...@omcl.org> wrote in message
news:87it2j5...@hrothgar.omcl.org...
> "Ray Drouillard" <cos...@nospam-2.quixnet.net> writes:
>
> > You know... I have always wondered why someone bothers to tell the
> > "plonkee" that he has been plonked.
>
> It's the closest textual equivalent we have to a dead mugger hanging
from
> a lamp post.
I like that one.
Ray
Ray Drouillard
"Sydney Webb" <Syd_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3D55244E...@hotmail.com...
Hmmm... Plonk the right people,. and your status and reputation soar.
Plonk the wrong people, and you are an outcaste forever.
So, what happens when you don't plonk anyone?
Ray
Ray Drouillard
"Lee Ann Rucker" <lru...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:100820020035264906%lru...@mac.com...
That's because programmers have class.
(Either that, or we are too shy to try anything.)
Ray
Jeff Walther
(SkyeFire) wrote:
> (OTOH, honesty compels me to admit she'd be entirely out of my
league, even
> if she *was* on the market...)
Don't be so fast to count yourself out. Attraction is multi-dimensional
for many, if not most people. There are some for whom it's
one-dimensional (all physical, e.g.) but for most, you just never know
what aspect of your person they might be interested in.
--
A friend will help you move. A real friend will help you move a body.
Jeff Walther
kly...@aol.comedy (Klyfix) wrote:
> My impression is that she doesn't chose her clothes (or much of anything
> else); for practical purposes she's a performing mannequin. Hmm.....
> suddenly have a vision of a writer who hides behind a hired actor
> in order to increase interest in his/her/its work and to preserve their
> own privacy. Of course that has been written, right? Lots of times,
> although I can't think of an SF example off hand.
Not SF and not written, but the film "American Dreamer" had an example of
that, sort of. Fun little flick.
William December Starr
"Ray Drouillard" <cos...@nospam-2.quixnet.net> said:
> Hmmm... Plonk the right people,. and your status and reputation
> soar. Plonk the wrong people, and you are an outcaste forever.
>
> So, what happens when you don't plonk anyone?
You get to read a *lot* of crap.
-- William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
Sea Wasp
> Hmmm... Plonk the right people,. and your status and reputation soar.
> Plonk the wrong people, and you are an outcaste forever.
>
> So, what happens when you don't plonk anyone?
Then you're just like me.
Scream or cheer, whichever strikes you as more appropriate.
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
http://www.wizvax.net/seawasp/index.htm
Mike Schilling
news:aj5o7f$s6u$1...@panix1.panix.com...
> In article <bjn59.194591$nm.77...@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
> "Ray Drouillard" <cos...@nospam-2.quixnet.net> said:
>
> > Hmmm... Plonk the right people,. and your status and reputation
> > soar. Plonk the wrong people, and you are an outcaste forever.
> >
> > So, what happens when you don't plonk anyone?
>
> You get to read a *lot* of crap.
It's easy enough to ignore someone without plonking them, or plonk them
without announcing the fact.
Steve Taylor
>> Actually, I saw another wombat acronym the other day - can't forget what
>> the words were, but it was by a bunch of people who went to demos
>> wearing very heavy padding so the truncheons wouldn't hurt so much...
> WOMBLES - White Overall Movement Bringing Liberation through Effective
> Struggle. Seen at various various anti-capitalism protests in UK and
> Europe.
Cool! But no - the poster I saw was definitely for WOMABTS. It sounds
very likely though that it was done by someone who knew of WOMBLES and
wanted an indigenous version.
> David Cowie
Steve
Nancy Lebovitz
Or to plonk them but keep reading them.
--
Nancy Lebovitz na...@netaxs.com www.nancybuttons.com 100 new slogans
I want to move to theory. Everything works in theory.
Brenda W. Clough
>In article <20020808233851...@mb-bj.aol.com>, skye...@aol.com
>(SkyeFire) wrote:
>
>
>> (OTOH, honesty compels me to admit she'd be entirely out of my
>>
>league, even
>
>>if she *was* on the market...)
>>
>
>Don't be so fast to count yourself out. Attraction is multi-dimensional
>for many, if not most people. There are some for whom it's
>one-dimensional (all physical, e.g.) but for most, you just never know
>what aspect of your person they might be interested in.
>
Charity compels me to note that Catherine's husband is 6'4" and works
out daily. He's a physicist, too.
Brenda
--
---------
Brenda W. Clough
Read my novella "May Be Some Time"
Complete at http://www.analogsf.com/0202/maybesometime.html
My web page is at http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda/
Mike Schilling
"Nancy Lebovitz" <na...@unix1.netaxs.com> wrote in message
news:DHx59.1458$Hc6.1...@newshog.newsread.com...
> In article <oxx59.1068$Y5.44...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
> Mike Schilling <mscotts...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >"William December Starr" <wds...@panix.com> wrote in message
> >news:aj5o7f$s6u$1...@panix1.panix.com...
> >> In article <bjn59.194591$nm.77...@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
> >> "Ray Drouillard" <cos...@nospam-2.quixnet.net> said:
> >>
> >> > Hmmm... Plonk the right people,. and your status and reputation
> >> > soar. Plonk the wrong people, and you are an outcaste forever.
> >> >
> >> > So, what happens when you don't plonk anyone?
> >>
> >> You get to read a *lot* of crap.
> >
> >It's easy enough to ignore someone without plonking them, or plonk them
> >without announcing the fact.
>
> Or to plonk them but keep reading them.
Only if by "plonk" you mean "falsely announce that you've killfiled them."
Keith Morrison
>>My impression is that she doesn't chose her clothes (or much of anything
>>else); for practical purposes she's a performing mannequin. Hmm.....
>>suddenly have a vision of a writer who hides behind a hired actor
>>in order to increase interest in his/her/its work and to preserve their
>>own privacy. Of course that has been written, right? Lots of times,
>>although I can't think of an SF example off hand.
>
> Not SF and not written, but the film "American Dreamer" had an example of
> that, sort of. Fun little flick.
It's been done in real life. The crew who wrote _Naked Comes the
Stranger_ had a woman with the right attitude and look pose as
the author in order to con the publisher into printing it and make
the media rounds to promote the book.
--
Keith
Keith Morrison
re: Catherine Asano
>>> (OTOH, honesty compels me to admit she'd be entirely out of my
>>> league, even if she *was* on the market...)
>>>
>> Don't be so fast to count yourself out. Attraction is multi-dimensional
>> for many, if not most people. There are some for whom it's
>> one-dimensional (all physical, e.g.) but for most, you just never know
>> what aspect of your person they might be interested in.
>
> Charity compels me to note that Catherine's husband is 6'4" and works
> out daily. He's a physicist, too.
Is this suppoed to be discouragement based on the "he's not only good
looking, but smart too, you you're out of your league" principle, or
the "he'll either beat you to a pulp or shove a neutron bomb down your
throat" principle?
--
Keith
Klyfix
Walther) writes:
>
>In article <20020809193140...@mb-cj.aol.com>,
>kly...@aol.comedy (Klyfix) wrote:
>
>
>> My impression is that she doesn't chose her clothes (or much of anything
>> else); for practical purposes she's a performing mannequin. Hmm.....
>> suddenly have a vision of a writer who hides behind a hired actor
>> in order to increase interest in his/her/its work and to preserve their
>> own privacy. Of course that has been written, right? Lots of times,
>> although I can't think of an SF example off hand.
>
>Not SF and not written, but the film "American Dreamer" had an example of
>that, sort of. Fun little flick.
>
Hmm, an idea that would seem to have obvious SF/Fantasy potential
yet while there have been several story examples most are not
SF. Perhaps _too_ obvious and mundane an idea.
V. S. Greene : kly...@aol.com : Boston, near Arkham...
Eckzylon: http://m1.aol.com/klyfix/eckzylon.html
A rodent with mad skillz, uh, no.
Klyfix
writes:
>
>Jeff Walther wrote:
>
>>In article <20020808233851...@mb-bj.aol.com>, skye...@aol.com
>>(SkyeFire) wrote:
>>
>>
>>> (OTOH, honesty compels me to admit she'd be entirely out of my
>>>
>>league, even
>>
>>>if she *was* on the market...)
>>>
>>
>>Don't be so fast to count yourself out. Attraction is multi-dimensional
>>for many, if not most people. There are some for whom it's
>>one-dimensional (all physical, e.g.) but for most, you just never know
>>what aspect of your person they might be interested in.
>>
>
>
>Charity compels me to note that Catherine's husband is 6'4" and works
>out daily. He's a physicist, too.
>
And in some fiction the Physicist bit would be the truly scary part....
Klyfix
Starr) writes:
>
>In article <bjn59.194591$nm.77...@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
>"Ray Drouillard" <cos...@nospam-2.quixnet.net> said:
>
>> Hmmm... Plonk the right people,. and your status and reputation
>> soar. Plonk the wrong people, and you are an outcaste forever.
>>
>> So, what happens when you don't plonk anyone?
>
>You get to read a *lot* of crap.
>
Which really is the main reason to killfile somebody; knowledge that what
they're saying is to you worthless (wouldn't doubt that I'm on some killfiles
for that), or they're out for an argument for the sake of an argument, or are
otherwise just annoying. Now the Public Plonking Ritual is another
thing altogether; I've done that on occasion if I've foolishly attempted
to reason with someone who is unreasonable but generally that means
I've lost my temper with the twit.
Brenda W. Clough
It's the 'the wise man will choose one of the above' scenario.
Jeff Walther
<clo...@erols.com> wrote:
> Keith Morrison wrote:
>
> > Is this suppoed to be discouragement based on the "he's not only good
> > looking, but smart too, you you're out of your league" principle, or
> > the "he'll either beat you to a pulp or shove a neutron bomb down your
> > throat" principle?
> >
>
>
> It's the 'the wise man will choose one of the above' scenario.
Well, I wasn't encouraging him to pursue Ms. Asario specifically, I hope.
It certainly wasn't my intent. My point was just that he shouldn't assume
someone is out of his league, given the multi-faceted nature of
attraction. Of course, being unavailable is a fine reason not to try his
luck.
Nancy Lebovitz
Mike Schilling <mscotts...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Nancy Lebovitz" <na...@unix1.netaxs.com> wrote in message
>news:DHx59.1458$Hc6.1...@newshog.newsread.com...
>> In article <oxx59.1068$Y5.44...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
>> Mike Schilling <mscotts...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >"William December Starr" <wds...@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >news:aj5o7f$s6u$1...@panix1.panix.com...
>> >> In article <bjn59.194591$nm.77...@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,
>> >> "Ray Drouillard" <cos...@nospam-2.quixnet.net> said:
>> >>
>> >> > Hmmm... Plonk the right people,. and your status and reputation
>> >> > soar. Plonk the wrong people, and you are an outcaste forever.
>> >> >
>> >> > So, what happens when you don't plonk anyone?
>> >>
>> >> You get to read a *lot* of crap.
>> >
>> >It's easy enough to ignore someone without plonking them, or plonk them
>> >without announcing the fact.
>>
>> Or to plonk them but keep reading them.
>
>Only if by "plonk" you mean "falsely announce that you've killfiled them."
I use "plonk" to mean "announce that you've killfiled them". Like any
other statement, a plonking might be true or false.
Also, some people have inadequate killfiles which only eliminate
posts which are directly from the plonkee, but don't eliminate
quoted material.
Shaad M. Ahmad
>Ray Drouillard wrote:
>
>> Hmmm... Plonk the right people,. and your status and reputation soar.
>> Plonk the wrong people, and you are an outcaste forever.
>>
>> So, what happens when you don't plonk anyone?
>
> Then you're just like me.
But, but, aren't you one of... THEM?
- Shaad
Phil Fraering
>In <20020809193140...@mb-cj.aol.com>, kly...@aol.comedy (Klyfix) writes:
>>suddenly have a vision of a writer who hides behind a hired actor
>>in order to increase interest in his/her/its work and to preserve their
>>own privacy. Of course that has been written, right? Lots of times,
>>although I can't think of an SF example off hand.
>The only one I can think of off hand isn't written, and isn't
>strictly SF. It's the movie _Without a Clue_ with Ben Kingsley
>and Micheal Caine, with Kingsley as Dr.Watson, who having made
>up the character of Sherlock Holmes is then forced to hire Caine
>to portray the detective.
The only instance I can think of is one of the final episodes of
"Magnum PI," where it was suggested that Higgins was really the
author of Robin Masters' books, and that "Robin Masters" was just
an actor he'd hired for the above reasons.
I don't remember enough of the series to know whether this was
consistent with any of the times Robin Masters did show up.
The closest this gets to an ObSF is that Masters apparently wrote
the same sort of bad technothrillers Cricton writes.
--
Phil Fraering
p...@globalreach.net
"And don't think it hasn't been a little
slice of heaven, cause it hasn't!"
Jeff Stehman
>
> I don't remember enough of the series to know whether this was
> consistent with any of the times Robin Masters did show up.
I only saw about half the shows. Call me kooky, but it strikes me
as odd to let an actor portraying you gamble away your estate in a
card game.
> The closest this gets to an ObSF is that Masters apparently wrote
> the same sort of bad technothrillers Cricton writes.
More than that, Magnum obviously had some sort Charm going until the
last couple of season. As evidence, I present all the shootouts
that left him unscathed, but his friends in the hospital. :)
--Jeff Stehman
David Cowie
> David Cowie wrote:
>
>> WOMBLES - White Overall Movement Bringing Liberation through Effective
>> Struggle. Seen at various various anti-capitalism protests in UK and
>> Europe.
>
> Cool! But no - the poster I saw was definitely for WOMABTS. It sounds
> very likely though that it was done by someone who knew of WOMBLES and
> wanted an indigenous version.
>
WOMBATS: White Overall Movement Bringing Australia Tiresome Shit?
<g>
--
David Cowie david_cowie at lineone dot net
So high, so low, so many things to know.
Sea Wasp
MUAAAAHAHAHAHAhAhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHAAAHAAAaaaaaaa....
Chris Clayton
SkyeFire wrote:
> Lee Ann Rucker writes:
> >
> >One of my instructors was 50% Thai and 100% Texan, twang and all. It
> >was amusing watching the reaction of new students - they expected Kwai
> >Chang Caine and got "Howdy, y'all".
>
> Heh. I work with a supervisor whose facial features make him look (to me,
> at least) like he belongs in a Kurosawa film. But he has *no* accent -- or,
> more accurately, his accent is perfectly normal Upper Midwest, which means he
> blends into the background vocally. I've worked with him for years, but for
> some reason some tiny little sliver of my subconscious mind still expects an
> accent from him. Heck, a Texas drawl or upper-crust British King's English
> would probably be less weird.
> Which, I suppose, just goes to show how deeply ingrained some memes become.
It's interesting, since I find that there's a great many differences
in body language between visiting or immigrant East Asians, and
native-born
Americans of Asian descent. Things like how the eyes or mouth are held,
posture, gait, attributes like that. I'm surprised at times, sure, but
often
I can tell who to expect an accent from, and who will talk '6 o'clock
News'.
It helps that the demographics in this country are changing enough that
there's many examples from both groups, of course.
--
Chris Clayton
Chris Clayton
Ray Drouillard wrote:
> Lee Ann Rucker wrote ...
> > Craig Richardson wrote:
> >
> > > >The male-female ratio at software conferences being
> > > >what it is, that happens to me once a year. It used
> > >
> > > The male-female ratio at software conferences being what it is, I'd
> > > imagine that being recognized is the least of your troubles...
> >
> > No idea why, but no, they've always been well-behaved.
>
> That's because programmers have class.
Is that inherited?
--
Chris Clayton
Chris Clayton
Klyfix wrote:
> Brenda W. Clough> writes:
>
> >Charity compels me to note that Catherine's husband is 6'4" and works
> >out daily. He's a physicist, too.
>
> And in some fiction the Physicist bit would be the truly scary part....
He may be a Physicist. But is he a Spark?
--
Chris "And does he know the Heterodyne Boys?" Clayton
wamccabe
box) and the guy behind the counter (manager of the store) claimed that he
hadn't heard of him until the previous week when he'd met him at an event at
another shop in their chain. I thought this surprising as I was pretty sure
that Pratchett had been making the top ten bestseller lists by then.
Fans tend to believe that their heroes are much better known and less
approachable than they usually are. Conventions and promotional tours can
either re-inforce this or destroy it entirely. I have been to conventions
where a guest has only confronted the attending members at his own guest
speech and I've been at a bookstore signing where I've stopped to talk to
the writer behind the desk because no-one else is paying them any attention.
"Brenda W. Clough" <clo...@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3D507299...@erols.com...
> Keith Morrison wrote:
>
> > Sean O'Hara wrote:
> >
> >> Usenet (and the Internet in general) has a way of democratizing
> >> celebrity. People who post to newsgroups are judged by what they
> >> have to say, not by who they are in the Real World [1]. Stirling
> >> didn't get it, and acted like being an author imbued his words with
> >> great import.
> >
> >
> > I don't think people who aren't here get this very well. A while
> > back I was talking to a friend (who didn't use newsgroups) about
> > some authors and I mentioned that I'd been in an argument with
> > Stirling just that week. The idea that I, a relative non-entity
> > could not only have a conversation with a somewhat noted author
> > but get into a row involving mutual insults was shocking to him.
> >
> > In retrospect, it is kind of neat. I mean, going into a bookstore
> > to look for a book because you told the author that you'd look it
> > up is, objectively, pretty cool when you think about it.
> >
>
>
> And I think the fame of authors is vastly, to many orders of magnitude
> over-estimated in this newsgroup. In the Wide World, writers are
> zeroes, total nonentities: ignored by PEOPLE and US magazine, never
> guests of Jay Leno, always the secondary or even tertiary obit on the
> Deaths page. Ray Feist (a big fish in our little pond) was only
> recognized once by a member of the general public, by the clerk who was
> renting him a car. He tells the story because it was the -only- time.
>
> Brenda
>
> --
> ---------
> Brenda W. Clough
> Read my novella "May Be Some Time"
> Complete at http://www.analogsf.com/0202/maybesometime.html
>
> My web page is at http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda/
>
>
>
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Bill Snyder
wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:21:57 -0400, Chris Clayton <ccla...@ford.com>
>wrote:
>Multiple times.
But beware the ones whose family tree contains diamond-shapes.
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Ray Drouillard
"Chris Clayton" <ccla...@ford.com> wrote in message
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I think it's passed by reference.
Ray
Mark Atwood
> > >
> > > No idea why, but no, they've always been well-behaved.
> >
> > That's because programmers have class.
>
> Is that inherited?
No, but they do share their privates with friends.
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Luke Webber
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I object. In fact, I take exception. I think you're overloading the
metaphor.
Luke